Smackbilly posted:

haha oh god... at least that gets creativity points. Who needs RTTI when you have exceptions?

more falafel please posted:

Exceptions are like goto, only they're just "gosomewhere".

Sivart13 posted:

I get the feeling even posting the best-written COBOL you could find would still be valid for this thread.

ashgromnies posted:

Wouldn't that kill the English readability of something like:

code:

if ($user->is_valid() && $user->has_enough_money()){

though? You'd need to make it

code:

if ($user->is_valid() == 1 && $user->has_enough_money() == 1){

which I don't like! It kills the readability of boolean expressions, and I'm also not sure of how it would work in dynamic languages where if($var) and if($var == 1) are completely different.

Volte posted:

Well some languages like Python have an 'in' operator. Like

code:

if mode in [1, 2, 3, 5, 8]

No Safe Word posted:

Monkeypatching FTL.

No Safe Word posted:

Hacking into a class that you didn't create is, in my mind, monkeypatching. Whether it's tacking on a method or redefining an existing one.

quote:

edit:

SNL's Digital Short "Dear Sister", I made the animation myself from screencaps

I forgot I had it because I browse with avatars off at work

Janin posted:

If it's going to throw an exception anyway, why even use has_next()?

code:

import random
import sys

def gen_func ():
	while True:
		var = random.randint (0, 2)
		if var == 0:
			sys.exit ()
		yield var
		
gen = gen_func ()
gen.has_next () # How could this **ever** be implemented?

Janin posted:

The generator is not "making a mess". Many generators have side effects, and it's important that the side effects happen at the prescribed time. I inserted the sys.exit() to prevent arguments about pre-caching results; often, the results themselves are unimportant and it's the side-effects of the generator that matter.

quote:

The issue with using a has_next()/get_next() style is that it's not as general as the current system. Any loop implemented with has/get_next() can be wrapped in a generator, but the converse is not true because the behavior of a generator allows unpredictable results.

quote:

I don't think anybody is arguing that it's perfect, but it's certainly better than the alternatives. People just need to get over the "all exceptions are errors" mentality.

Janin posted:

Or you could just use exceptions. Obviously you've learned, or been taught, that exceptional circumstances are inherently errors. In Python, this is not the case; an exception just means that the code was unable to finish executing, for any reason.

If exception handling was to be replaced with another paradigm, I'd prefer something like LISP's conditions.

Janin posted:

What languages have you used? If you've only used the C family (C++/C#/Java) then the idea of a non-error exception will seem strange, but to understand Python you need to realize that they are different concepts.

geetee posted:

php:

<?
$LIVE_PRODUCTION_FLAG='TEST';
//Change above only to 'ON' or 'TEST'.
?>

If that "flag" wasn't bad enough, no less than 5 lines down:

php:

<?
if (isset($LIVE_PRODUCTION_FLAG) && ...) {
?>

I'm pretty sure it's still set to some obnoxious value.

TSDK posted:

... and why is a function for reading called 'write' at one point?

ymgve posted:

To elaborate more on my question, which of these are good/bad?

ymgve posted:

I've always felt the third one is a bit iffy because you have the same call twice, so if you ever change the code around, you have two locations that you need to change. Not so hard in this simple example, though.

I feel better about the first one, but it does seem a bit "unclean" to do an assignment inside the while() evaluation.

(Then again, this comes from someone who prefers break...)

ymgve posted:

Nope, same username since registration. Why?

Ryouga Inverse posted:

I think I want to kill myself.

Jethro posted:

I think he's programing C♭ instead.

Sartak posted:

Even still, why would you subtract 5 from the userid if it contains a period?

Mill Town posted:

Apparently XOR is defined on strings in PHP.
http://ca.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.bitwise.php

FeloniousDrunk posted:

Seems to me all of that above could be written as:

php:

<?
$toret=$userid.'.'.(date('Ymd_His')^'pippopippopippo');
?>

which seems to be making some sort of maybe session key?

Ugg boots posted:

I know some people like that, but Ugg I hate it. I'd rather jump the hell out of a triply-nested loop with a Return statement than try to get out some other way. (Though I guess PHP has a break(x) function that breaks you out of multiple loops, doesn't it?)

tripwire posted:

There is no god but PERL and regular expressions are his prophets.

Triple Tech posted:

Perl. Perl. Do you go around saying poo poo like JAVA or RUBY? <>

6174 posted:

If you're going to go for the false etymology, you might as well go for Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister.

Plorkyeran posted:

Indeed, Wall claims that the name was intended to inspire many different expansions.[14]

quote:

What's your language today, Larry?

Oh, I thought I'd mash together MUMPS and Ruby and then make people end lines with the visual bell character. This will be a module for Perl 6 but I want to get it out of the way now.

Ugg boots posted:

You really like the word frobnicate, don't you?

McGlockenshire posted:

Much to our collective horror, the values are modifiable within the sort. I have no idea who thought this was a good idea, but I'm going to give him or her a piece of my mind should we ever meet. So, during the sort, the left value is always being modified. I'm not sure what method Perl uses internally to perform the sort, the results are the same every time on Perl 5.10.0.

Why would anyone do this?

Dijkstracula posted:

Indeed, you need to pass by reference, but in your example (unless I'm misunderstanding your question) there's no need to allow the dereferenced array to be modifiable.

Personally I think the better solution would just be to enforce some sort of const correctness on the sorted list, or at the very least issue a warning when it's being modified.

BigRedDot posted:

I work on sonar systems for submarines, I can say confidently that regular expressions are not at all an integral part of the programming we do.

Otto Skorzeny posted:

I was assuming that any taint feature in PHP would be a shittier and dumber cargo-cult-copy of its Perl analog (like every PHP feature)

Painless posted:

Flobbster posted:

I don't know how good VB (compile) --> MSIL (decompile) --> C# would look

Nigglypuff posted:

this is an irl job that people have

Lonely Wolf posted:

Well I hope this thread has taught you that it's far cheaper and far more effective to simply hire worse programmers.

Sprawl posted:

Can't you typer your variable before you put stuff into it?

And 1 quick google found this.

Mill Town posted:

DB DB DB... Th-th-th-that's all folks!

zootm posted:

I knew a guy who did something near-identical to this (in Java) when I was at uni. I suggested the single-line version and he just kinda looked stunned, then said he'd "maybe think about doing it that way later". Oh, well.

Lonely Wolf posted:

I want to quote my favorite line, but I just can't decide: they're all so bad.

Have you considered joining the rank of heroes who have come to work with a shotgun and a heart tempered in justice?

RussianManiac posted:

I am pretty sure this is just somebody doing a horror on purpose.