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8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

buns of molybdenum posted:

I still don't understand what happened to your 240, though. :confused:

After a long struggle Mother Nature took it back.

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Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
In an attempt to keep this from the archives, here's a simple text update;

1. My exhaust sucked. Had it replaced it with stainless.
2. Installed some Escort GT side skirts
3. Got my cluster w/ tachometer in the mail
4. I am picking up a 1991 Escort GT with a 5speed this weekend for more parts

Expect pictures. Plenty.

Raganti
Sep 25, 2007
I AM TO CHEAP TO BUY AN ACCOUNT!
I was starting to think the project was done. Good to know your still working hard on the car.

Can't wait for the pictures. :f5:

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
So, turns out Escort sideskirts are about 1" longer than the standard road going Mazda 323.





Some light trimming.


Rear brakes apart again.


My fancy stainless exhaust.





That's all for now.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
Talked to my friend with the 1991 Escort GT donor car - it's a go for this Sunday. So, I'll bring the tow dolly and be stripping down another Escort for a spare drivetrain.


Oh, and it looks like a homestead may be in the future for the Mrs. and myself, so a two car garage and the ability to work at home and not drive 40-loving-minutes each way to perform ANY work on my car should speed things up significantly with both cars.

Sweet.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
The donor has arrived.






















Can't wait to dig in again.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Sockington posted:




why is there a huge gap between the intake manifold (?) and the block?

Veeb0rg
Jul 24, 2001

THIS CONVERSATION IS NONPRODUCTIVE!
the runners wrap around and under the upper visable bit of the manifold. In that "gap" is for access to the fuel rail and injectors. *if memory serves*

Someone has beaten that escort to heck and back. impressive it survived.

Oh and congrats on the house..

Veeb0rg fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Jul 14, 2008

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Yeah, that's correct. The manifold on the BP in the Miata does the same thing.

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

I like seeing progress and getting a house is pretty good progress. I love this project probably more than I should

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Randi Challenger posted:

I love this project probably more than I should

Just wait until the MR2's supercharger makes it's way onto this new motor...

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

Sockington posted:

Oh, and it looks like a homestead may be in the future for the Mrs. and myself, so a two car garage and the ability to work at home and not drive 40-loving-minutes each way to perform ANY work on my car should speed things up significantly with both cars.

Given the speed at which you work right now I can't imagine how many projects you'll blast through once you have a Garage.

I'm going to have to avoid driving near Sarnia for fear of my engine being surprise swapped if I get too close to your house.

bandman
Mar 17, 2008
Hooray for the G-series trans! Now you can turbo the BP and not worry about grenading the gearbox. A sane-sized turbo with moderate boost would make that an even more satisfying daily driver.

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

Sockington posted:

Just wait until the MR2's supercharger makes it's way onto this new motor...

The way I feel right now is somewhere between :clint: and :q:

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Randi Challenger posted:

The way I feel right now is somewhere between :clint: and :q:

The standard crank pulley on the BP has some A/C & P/S grooves that are big enough to produce approx 8psi of boost.

Proper fueling and 9:1 supercharged 323 could be a reality. I have to first figure out the Megasquirt tom foolery on the MR2. Then I can apply it over the 323.

dreesemonkey
May 14, 2008
Pillbug
I'm in love with your project, I had a 323 myself in the past and always wanted to do a BP swap. But lack of skills and resources (financial and otherwise) made it only a foolish dream. I did have a pretty slick '3deuce3' vanity plate, though.

The car was sold to a friend and his dad still drives it, though the cancer is getting to it pretty bad. Long live the 323!

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
Started into the second donor car today.






Then gave up since the heat was bugging the crap out of me. Threw some rear mudflaps on the 323 and took it for a drive. Took gay pictures.









I'm averaging about ~30mpg mixed city/highway. Not bad for the amount of fun I'm having. :)

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

what camera did you use for the shots on the road? it looks quasi-HDR style and I bet it would have looked awesome.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Randi Challenger posted:

what camera did you use for the shots on the road? it looks quasi-HDR style and I bet it would have looked awesome.

Hahahaha.

Kodak EasyShare Z730.

The only post processing is where I set photobucket to automatically compress down to 800x600.

Replaced the wires this evening. TAYLOR!!!! wirez.


Lez
Jan 1, 2007
That'd be righteous...
So what's the cost of the project up to date?

groverat
Aug 5, 2004

$ watch the money pile up $
Stayed up too late reading this thread beginning-to-end. Nice work!

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

The side skirts turned out nice. Although the stance looks a bit odd because the wheel gap is bigger in the front.

Are you gonna paint it?

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!
How does the new exhaust sound? I imagine it's quite a bit less buzzy.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Lez posted:

So what's the cost of the project up to date?

Sockington posted:

323: $400
Escort GT donor car: $500
Radiator: $150
Brakes: $100
S/R Struts: $280
Oils, filters, fluids, bolts, and paints: $100
Exhaust: $100
Total: $1630

Posted: May 01, 2008 11:03

Since that, we'll add on;
Misc. paint poo poo: $20
Axle: $65
Misc. fluids: $20
Sideskirts: $100
Fancy-man stainless exhaust: (gulp) $400
Rear brakes: $30

Total: $2265

Thanks for making me do that.

Oh, and then add on another $200 with the newest donor car.

leica posted:


Are you gonna paint it?

Hopefully fairly soon.


deviant. posted:

How does the new exhaust sound? I imagine it's quite a bit less buzzy.

Yes. It's awesomely quiet. Outside, it sounds the tits.

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?



Looking good! I do like how your exhaust cost as much as the whole 323 though :v:

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
Pulling the 323 in for more work.


What the deuce? This can't be good.


Oh gently caress.


I think it's supposed to look like this.


And not like this.




P.S. Check out my fancy exhaust.


Linkage removed.


There's supposed to be a little rubber tab that holds this shifter into that metal "pocket". Supposed to be.


Another missing one on the other side. Alas, the source of the droppy donkey dick shifter.


A few extra steps...








...and Bammo! A free short shifter.


A quick tack to check for alignment.


A reinforcing weld after fitting.


Reinstalled.


Did I mention the fancy stainless exhaust?


Back on the ground.


Feels fine.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
Oh, and a video to hear the new exhaust.

Raganti
Sep 25, 2007
I AM TO CHEAP TO BUY AN ACCOUNT!
Did you get a new exhuast? :iamafag:

Looking awesome, thus far!

poisoned pie
Jan 15, 2005

Can you feel the colors?
Stainless exhausts?
Short shifters?
Online videos of 'highway pulls'?

smells like..

kinda sorta of...

a little bit reminding me of...

RICE

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

poisoned pie posted:

Stainless exhausts?
Short shifters?
Online videos of 'highway pulls'?



It's only rice when you're doing donuts/drifting around a center median of a street in a Miata during the video... at least mine was an empty and closed highway.

Anyways, it was just to get an idea of how much better a professionally built exhaust was.


PS> the shifter feels great. 1st gear is where neutral would be, second is in the normal position (as sort of a reference for throw distance now).

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Sounds great. If you go with a blower/turbo it will be the best sleeper ever, not to mention the hotest of hot hatches. :)

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

poisoned pie posted:

Stainless exhausts?
Short shifters?
Online videos of 'highway pulls'?

smells like..

kinda sorta of...

a little bit reminding me of...

RICE


An engine swap and extensive other work completely negates anything you have to say about rice justifies stainless exhaust and a shortened shifter.

TurboLuvah
Jul 24, 2004

Scientifically proven to be more fuel efficient than hybrids!
I love the massive fuel gauge.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Jesus christ, everything you touch is made of rust. That poor donor car; between that and the 240go4eva project you can have enough thermite to make the ATF take notice.

poisoned pie
Jan 15, 2005

Can you feel the colors?

Hypnolobster posted:

An engine swap and extensive other work completely negates anything you have to say about rice justifies stainless exhaust and a shortened shifter.

It was a joke, guy.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

poisoned pie posted:

It was a joke, guy.

I <3 you anyways poisoned.

I'm just going to post some pulley math here. Just for reference.

(75% eff volumetric efficiency of system as a whole to fudge it)

1.2 liter per rotation (supercharger)
130% of engine speed due to stock pulley ratios (100mm on supercharger, 130mm on crank). 130%= 1.3 multiplier
atmospheric pressure = 14.7 psi
engine takes in .9 liters per revolution ( 4 cycle motor only takes air into cylinder every other revolution)
pv = PV
(14.7)*(1.2*1.3) = P(.9)

P=25.48
- atmospheric = 10.78 psi
*75% = 8.085 psi

Total boost: 8psi on a 9:1 compression motor.



Which means, I think the plan works like this;

1. Build system on engine stand on spare BP
2. Rebuild BP in process
3. Megasquirt the current motor in my car
4. Rebuild G-series from donor car
5. Pull current motor and F-series from car
6. Install new clutch, flywheel, supercharged motor, and G-series trans
7. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..OHHHH SHIIII....

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
2 months until I own my first (two car) garage. There's a house on the property to, but good god man, a loving garage.

The MR2 will be moved into a work-able position. It'll be body work time for it. There'll be enough room for a good sized work bench (motor rebuilding area) as well as some extra room for a couple engines on stands.

The Focus will park in the other bay. :(
The 323 gets the outside position. :(

But gently caress, a garage. I'm excited to poo poo.

New projects that will come up;
A) Wiring the garage
B) Lighting the garage
C) Mother loving MR2 progress!

You guys can post stuff now if you'd like.

The 323 is also getting;
323 GTX grill (in mail)
MX6 Turbo injectors
MX6 Intercooler
MX6 by-pass valve
MR2 Supercharger
Megasquirt to control fuel only while leaving the factory ECU to do ignition. It seems like the easiest way to "revert to stock" if I have ANY trouble at all.

Then sweet, sweet boost.

Imagine nightly progress. Ha.

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...
Why not go with parts from the BPT engines, there's plenty up there from imports people toss into EGTS and stuff. A BPT with a supercharger instead would be pretty interesting, a BP N/A engine isn't particularly worth the work if you want to make safe power. THe MX6 compressor bypass sucks poo poo, go find a Saab or VW Bosch unit, as does the mx6 intercooler which has pretty terrible endtanks.

What I'm doing with the GTX and would probably work best for you is to wire a Megasquirt wiring harness with a Miata Cam Angle Sensor and the Miata coilpack, and another harness for the stock distributor and ECU/FCON. Ignition is more important than fuel, as it needs to be adaptive and fuel pretty much always has its optimal ratios, igntion advance is where you make power and responsiveness after for figure out fuel. Letting some lovely economy ECU with no knock sensing control a supercharged engine is wasting your time.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Baby Hitler posted:

What I'm doing with the GTX and would probably work best for you is to wire a Megasquirt wiring harness with a Miata Cam Angle Sensor and the Miata coilpack, and another harness for the stock distributor and ECU/FCON. Ignition is more important than fuel, as it needs to be adaptive and fuel pretty much always has its optimal ratios, igntion advance is where you make power and responsiveness after for figure out fuel. Letting some lovely economy ECU with no knock sensing control a supercharged engine is wasting your time.

I was going to start with Megasquirt on fuel only and then add more Megasquirt control as I get to learn it better.

My power goals aren't huge, so the $50 worth of used MX6 parts will work as an excellent start.

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poisoned pie
Jan 15, 2005

Can you feel the colors?
oi dick, mail me your GZE megasquirt setup you started to collect.

I need it for...a project..:ninja:

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