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Cyrano4747 posted:...four if that number they're mentioning with the manual is an identifier of what rifle or what soldier it belonged to. It's not. That or a similar number is on the front of most period G/K manuals. I'm guessing it's something like a publication number.
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Gewehr 43 posted:It's not. That or a similar number is on the front of most period G/K manuals. I'm guessing it's something like a publication number. Ah, gotcha. I'm pretty uninformed when it comes to the documentation for something like that. Regardless, $8-12k still seems a bit steep for a (admittedly nice) G43 with a mismatched scope and scope mount and an original manual included.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Regardless, $8-12k still seems a bit steep for a (admittedly nice) G43 with a mismatched scope and scope mount and an original manual included. Yes, that's ridiculous. Rifle - $3500 Scope - $900 Mount - $2500 -------------- $6900 by my count, but I didn't actually look at the rifle in question. Just going by what you and the
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Kthulhu5000 posted:An auction full of classic, classy, Class III creamage. How about lot 1562, Tom Selleck's Sharps rifle from "Quigley Down Under". The only item listed without a price estimate.
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I have to admit, that custom made .45 Luger is pretty awesome.
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MutantBlue posted:How about lot 1562, Tom Selleck's Sharps rifle from "Quigley Down Under". The only item listed without a price estimate. That's pretty crazy when you consider the Texas Ranger/Mexican War/Civil War revolver that's estimated at $500,000-$1,000,000.
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McSpanky posted:That's pretty crazy when you consider the Texas Ranger/Mexican War/Civil War revolver that's estimated at $500,000-$1,000,000. That's probably way higher than it's actual value. Isn't what's considered the most valuable gun ever that original .45 Luger? And isn't it only worth about one million?
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From the auction: http://www.juliaauctions.com/auctio...=36120&sale=252 DAS TACTICAL The 08/15, the Shansei, the North American 1911 (gotta have something to throw in the tackle box), the *FOUR-BORE*. "Dear Santa..."
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The way that luger flashlight works is really cool. Your hand forms the electrical connection between the two metal pieces so the light turns on.
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LimburgLimbo posted:That's probably way higher than it's actual value. Isn't what's considered the most valuable gun ever that original .45 Luger? And isn't it only worth about one million? Surprisingly I haven't seen much about the world's most valuable guns after a quick search, but the .45 Luger seems to be on the short list, and probably the most expensive one which has been assessed. Some good alternate suggestions I saw were the FN Model 1910 used to assassinate Franz Ferdinand and Lee Harvey Oswald's Carcano, should either of them find their way to market.
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Pristine Shits posted:The way that luger flashlight works is really cool. Your hand forms the electrical connection between the two metal pieces so the light turns on. Sounds painful.
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Quick, someone I need 1000 dollars http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/...9mm_Lugers.html
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How bad of a $100 ride did I get with this 1917 Erfurt Kar 98 sporter? (It's a project gun and I've already figured out some of the problems) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I know the stock is done as done can be, and that the shoulder at the receiver and barrel has been profiled down with a bench grinder.
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Miso Beno posted:I don't know how the stock originally was, but that's not that bad of a sporter as far as the stock itself goes.
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QuarkMartial posted:I don't know how the stock originally was, but that's not that bad of a sporter as far as the stock itself goes. Think Kar 98k with different barrel bands.
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Ah, okay. I'm not too fond of sporterizing a rifle, but that's pretty tame, I think. Is the dutchman original or part of the sporterizing?
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QuarkMartial posted:Ah, okay. I'm not too fond of sporterizing a rifle, but that's pretty tame, I think. Is the dutchman original or part of the sporterizing? Sporterized, and of course the forearm on the 98a is different from the 98k so I'll have to do some double special modifications and end up fabricating my own forearm out of the original stock.
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I never thought to try using a 98k stock to restore dad's 98a
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McNally posted:I never thought to try using a 98k stock to restore dad's 98a You see them quite a bit actually. They're wrong (naturally) for the Kar98 and the Kar98 will be a LITTLE loose in the front, due to the way that the K98k stock is cut out for a large ring receiver while the Kar98 has a small ring receiver. That said, they fit and they work. You actually see a few WW2 era guns that are done like that. My Kar98a came to me in a K98k stock and with a WW2 era unnumbered bolt - given the penciled in serial number in the barrel channel I think (although I can't prove) that it was a late war salvage job - a busted rear end old Kar98a that was slapped in a K98k stock with a new bolt body for use by whatever local end-of-days troops were needing to get armed. No import stamp, so you never know.
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Which German military Mausers (Gew 98, Karbiner 98k, etc.) had cupped buttplates? Which foreign Mausers had them? They're pretty cool, huh?
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Groda posted:Which German military Mausers (Gew 98, Karbiner 98k, etc.) had cupped buttplates? I don't know pre-K98 mausers that well, but I believe that only post-1940 or 1941 K98k's had cupped buttplates. Of foreign mausers, I can think of the yugo M48 right off the top of my head, as well as some Brazilian models.
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What's the story with Mitchell's Mausers? Are they as bullshit as their back cover ad in the latest issue of WWII History magazine suggests?
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Tmavomodry posted:What's the story with Mitchell's Mausers? Are they as bullshit as their back cover ad in the latest issue of WWII History magazine suggests? Yes, avoid them like the plague. If you want a good Mauser, get one from Classicarms.us. http://www.classicarms.us/
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Tmavomodry posted:What's the story with Mitchell's Mausers? Are they as bullshit as their back cover ad in the latest issue of WWII History magazine suggests? Theya re crooks and scammers who scrub the gently caress out of Yugo and sometime RC k98s and sell them as German. They all need to die painful, slow, eurethra-torture filled deaths.
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Gewehr 43 posted:I don't know pre-K98 mausers that well, but I believe that only post-1940 or 1941 K98k's had cupped buttplates. All pre-k98k German mausers had flat buttplates, almost identical to the ones you see on early K98ks. Most other countries that adopted the mauser used it too. I can't think of any beyond the Yugo and Brasilian examples that G43 gave that had cupped buttplates. Even the Israelis in new stocks had flat buttplates. Tmavomodry posted:What's the story with Mitchell's Mausers? Are they as bullshit as their back cover ad in the latest issue of WWII History magazine suggests? They suck so bad I'm devoting an entire paragraph to telling people to stay the gently caress away in the upcoming Mauser write-up I'm doing. They're a prime evil in the world of milsurp. Come judgment day there will be a crowd of angry milsurpers laying siege to their corporate offices with K98ks, G/K43s, and a whole lot of burning torches and nooses.
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Yay! MP40 seller has the approved form 4 in-hand and will be shipping the gun tomorrow. I should have it by mid-week. YAY! Edit: Needs more ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Tube gun or C&R? Edit: Either way, there's no better owner out there for either of them!
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Groda posted:Tube gun or C&R? C&R. Erma (ayf) 43 production. This gun is an upgrade from my old tube gun. Also: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I have had a pretty productive weekend. I have been putting the world's worst bubba'd Mosin back to rights over the last few weekends. I'll have more pictures of the whole process and the finished result after I get that huge hole in the stock plugged and sanded down right. I still can't believe that someone thought that putting a pistol grip and painting a gun like this would be a good idea.![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Most bubba jobs are usually to lighten up a milsurp gun for hunting. I am not quite sure what mushroom and bad radiator moonshine addled brain came up with this idea. This is by far the worst bubba I have ever seen. I traded 4 tires for this and I probably got ripped off. ![]() Under all that paint was a wood stock that is in bad shape, but functional. I would have just replaced the stock with a cheap plastic one, but all my money is going towards a 4x4 short bus to use as a RV and hunting rig. The metal was rusty and dirty under the paint. A lot of time with paint stripper, a wire wheel, steel wool and a good set of dental picks has pretty much returned the gun to "rights" such as they are. The bore is "frosty" and I use that term loosely. It will be interesting to see how it shoots. I am hoping for minute of barn at 10 yards...
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This I guess falls under Milsurp... I had an awesome range experience today. Go out to the local (non-fudd) shooting hole with my dad. He'd bought a Henry lever 22lr he wanted to try out along with my Mossberg M44. We get to the range and I find within 5 shots that my M44's ejector is busted. So I get up, my dad starts to shoot and he's fumbling enough that the RSO takes interest. The RSO being a 4 foot tall, 80 year old italian woman, no vision / hearing protection. Comes up, gives my dad a few pointers before stepping back and letting him finish. She notices my M1 Garand and says "I fired one of those earlier today, kept jamming, wasn't any fun.". I smile sit down, check my zero... Behind me, I hear my dad explaining that he got the henry 22 because he couldn't hold my Garand. Finish a clip, no jams (like always). I hear from behind me her say. "Mind if I try? Please load it for me, my fingers can't do it...". I say sure, load a fresh clip and place the rifle on the table. She walks up. Flips the safety off, off hands it and mag dumps all 8 rounds into a small pine tree in the far berm about 200 yards away. She places the gun on the table turns around and says "Man that's fun, I could shoot that all day." Turns to my dad and says "If I can shoot it, you can too.". And that's how my dad got owned by an 80 year old.
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Gwamp posted:I have had a pretty productive weekend. I have been putting the world's worst bubba'd Mosin back to rights over the last few weekends. Aurune posted:And that's how my dad got owned by an 80 year old. I thought Gwamp's post was going to make me cry, and then I read about your dad. Thanks for saving me from complete despair. Gwamp, where did you even get that thing? Garage sale?
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Not Nipsy Russell posted:Gwamp, where did you even get that thing? Garage sale? I had 4 old tires/rims and a "buddy" of mine wanted them for a project. He did not have any money so he offered me that in trade for the tires. I made the mistake of giving him the tires before getting the gun. He told me that it was in bad shape, but I had not idea what I was in for. I figure if I can return the gun to functional condition, I can trade it for something else down the line a ways. If not, then my grandkids can shake their heads at it when they dispose of all my junk some day.
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Gwamp posted:
What's involved in restoring the stock on something like that? Just lots of paint stripper? Also, seriously? A 4x4 Short Bus? For hunting? I know it's not exactly relevant to the thread, but do you have any pictures?
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QuarkMartial posted:What's involved in restoring the stock on something like that? Just lots of paint stripper? Lots and lots of paint stripper plus elbow grease. The spot where the "grip" was attached is going to require some sanding as it is pretty messed up. The gun was basically ruined by the bubba job done by this yokel. Everything was painted including the inside of the mag, the chamber and even the bolt face. The short bus? Once I finish working out the deal for it, I'll get some pictures of it. It was originally a school bus from up in Alaska that has worked it's way down to Oregon. It's a 1994 GMC Vandura 1 ton 4x4 with a 6.5 liter diesel in it with 84,000 miles on it. It is in amazing shape and worth 3-4 times what I am going to pay for it.
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Okay, so at work today i talked to a neat oldster. He was telling me about some of his time in a sniper outfit in the 223rd infantry regiment the korean war. He said that since they didn't have many m1d's to go around, and they were basically DRM, what they did was convert their garands into single action. he said what they did was take off the gas assembly, plug it, and replace the front sight? he said with m2 ball it jumped from 2100 fps, to 2300 fps he said they used irons most of the time, being DRM and all another gently caress gently caress trick they used was taking a 1/32 bit and boring a hole in the tip of their rounds. they were called 'screaming banshees'. someone make a video of this. he said " the chinks, if they heard a sound not native, they assumed it was a demon" i talked to him about all kinds of poo poo for an hour, when i should have been doing real work. it was pretty cool.
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Went to the range today to shoot something after this weekend's debacle. My retarded mauser which shoots very well: ![]() My Swede m/96 which shoots very high at 100m:
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mikerock posted:My Swede m/96 which shoots very high at 100m:
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Yeah I was grouping well, but I was shooting about 12" high. I am still working out how to get a proper sight picture for 100m. I found that even when I wasn't high I was shooting right. When I had it out at Brown's Camp late last year I was nailing poo poo at 200m or so.
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mikerock posted:Went to the range today to shoot something after this weekend's debacle. I propose an experiment, where you see how far bullets from those go into those logs.
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Ammo question for a co-worker. Can you shoot 9mm Luger out of a modern 9mm parabellum, or is the chambering sizes too different?
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