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Gaza
Jul 16, 2008
This is a really faggy question and I assume I'm going to get poo poo for this but..

What pedals and effects would I need to use to sound real heavy on guitar (breakdowns) I already tune to drop A and G occasionally.

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Gaza
Jul 16, 2008

3toes posted:

Could try a POG or Micro POG as well and crank the sub-octave.

And how the hell do you even have enough tension on the strings to get any kind of sound other than a wet fart with Drop A and G?

7 string guitars with the thickest strings I can find. It works and it worked before even using 6 stringers, only to Drop A though.

Gaza
Jul 16, 2008

Zakalwe posted:

I play drop C on one of my guitars and I needed to make up a custom set from 12-60 to get something approaching normal tension. Below B the strings get too floppy for my tastes.

I can confirm that its a bitch with 6 strings, but I have never had a need to play a tuning above drop c, so I'm used to it I guess.

Gaza
Jul 16, 2008
Does the micro POG track quick distortion well? Tremolo picking and the like.

Gaza
Jul 16, 2008

hamaien posted:

I got a Micro POG for this reason and it doesn't work very well.

Other applications sound awesome, but not the super downtuned metal sound.


Thanks for this, I checked it out and I thought "that would be cool for melodic higher stuff, but maybe not for the down tuned stuff" and for 200ish dollars that's a no. All the pedals I am seeing demoed are in the higher end so I'm really unsure about them. I think I can find a massive lower end outside of effects pedals with a 15 inch amp and some tweaking.

Gaza
Jul 16, 2008
I spoke to soon:

Micro Metal Muff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOPR_O57VaU&feature=user

I will keep that in the back of my mind.

Can someone explain to me the advantage of using noise suppressors like this one?

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-NS2-Noise-Suppressor-Pedal?sku=151331

Gaza fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Oct 15, 2008

Gaza
Jul 16, 2008

the wizards beard posted:

A noise gate will mute your guitar when you are not playing - so when your signal goes below a certain threshold level it shuts it off. If you play with high-gain this is really useful because any small sound would otherwise end up as an amplified distorted sound, and noise can turn into hiss or feedback.

It's pretty hard to play tight, clean start-stop metal rhythms without a gate.

Well lets say I record everything to an 8 track Which I have done and if I want to add the noise gate in cubase will it compare to the quality of using one while recording?

Gaza
Jul 16, 2008

the wizards beard posted:

Probably not if you recorded the guitars with distortion. The noise is already there, a gate wouldn't help much. You could manually edit the spaces between notes, but that would be difficult and time-consuming.

If you have recordings try it, I don't think it would work very well but I could be wrong.

I already remove the over 2 second pauses if nothing is going on. I'm going to see what I can do.

Gaza
Jul 16, 2008

the wizards beard posted:

Yeah, the gate should remove the noise between every note. Check out some youtube videos of the Boss NS-2 or the ISP Decimator, noise gates are one of the few effects where youtube demos are pretty reliable.

Doing that now, thanks for the input, and thanks for everyone's 2 cents.

Oh and I'm a big idiot for not posting this before, but the song "Thirteen" by recon is generally the sound I'm looking for

http://www.myspace.com/recon

(hope that's not a big derail)

Gaza fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Oct 15, 2008

Gaza
Jul 16, 2008

archie posted:

while we're talking about distortion stuff..

i now have my mind + heart set on a frostwave sonic alienator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwt7LfNNTRM

yewwww!

sounds pretty epic with the machinedrum in that clip. i sure love my MD

God drat that is amazing. At first I was like this is disgusting, And then I was like...this is disgusting! Someone on youtube said they don't make this anymore and that this is a good alternative:

http://wmdevices.com/geiger.php

Edit: no gently caress that I want all of these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayrpX6go9g8&feature=related

Gaza fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Jun 12, 2009

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Gaza
Jul 16, 2008

archie posted:

yotube is blocked at work - i'm guessing it's the one with the jonox m-resonator and the other one as well as the frostwave thingy?

i've been doing some research and the frostwave guy is having a timeout for a few months to believe it or not open a second-hand book shop. no time-frame but apparently sometime in the not-too-distant future.

in the meantime i'll have to make do with a jomox t-resonator (check it - like the m-resonator but with crazy delay stuff...)

http://www.jomox.com/product_details.php?lang=2&category=&product_id=3

drat that geiger counter is nuts!


your nick lends itself to these kind of effects pretty nicely too

I'm trying to recreate this stuff with vst's. Not entirely too difficult but I much prefer actual knobs and something portable. I more like to use over the top filters and delays for synth and drums though. My username is a song title.

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