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A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005


Am I the only one with a passionate, illogical hatred of -ibibyte measurements?

ITS KILOBYTE THATS HOW ITS ALWAYS BEEN STOP loving WITH MY MEASUREMENTS

A Pinball Wizard fucked around with this message at Aug 24, 2009 around 17:32

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EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

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Sister Miyagi posted:

Am I the only one with a passionate, illogical hatred of -ibibyte measurements?

ITS KILOBYTE THATS HOW ITS ALWAYS BEEN STOP loving WITH MY MEASUREMENTS

This is 100% correct.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007



Sister Miyagi posted:

Am I the only one with a passionate, illogical hatred of -ibibyte measurements?

ITS KILOBYTE THATS HOW ITS ALWAYS BEEN STOP loving WITH MY MEASUREMENTS

has anyone ever seen that KiB/MiB/GiB poo poo anywhere except wikipedia articles?

rt4
Feb 19, 2008


Sweevo posted:

has anyone ever seen that KiB/MiB/GiB poo poo anywhere except wikipedia articles?

slashdot comments

jandrese
Apr 3, 2007

by Tiny Fistpump


I wouldn't have minded so much if they just didn't choose the most retarded sounding names for the new measurements. I can't even say "mebibytes" without cringing.

brc64
Mar 21, 2008

I wear my sunglasses at night.

Sweevo posted:

has anyone ever seen that KiB/MiB/GiB poo poo anywhere except wikipedia articles?
I swear I've seen it in uTorrent before, but I just opened up my current version and it's not there. It probably pops up in open source projects every once in a while. I doubt the average person even notices.

I like using the term specifically because of reactions like Sister Miyagi.

jandrese
Apr 3, 2007

by Tiny Fistpump


Sweevo posted:

has anyone ever seen that KiB/MiB/GiB poo poo anywhere except wikipedia articles?

With the standards bodies settling on it, you can be assured that you will start seeing the terms in technical docs and research papers. Granted, these are the areas where confusion can cause the most damage so I can't complain too much, but what was wrong with the old convention?

For those who don't know:
kb = 1000 bits
kB = 1000 bytes
Kb = 1024 bits
KB = 1024 bytes

MB, GB, and beyond all worked in the same way. The only caveat is that it did not work in speech.

Also, people like Sister Miyagi are the reason we (the US) has not switched over to Metric yet.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007



ShoulderDaemon posted:

There's no reason users should have to deal with the 210 nonsense when they don't have to
Users don't even know what a megabyte is in the first place. The only thing it'll do for them is create a little confusion, since there'll be two nearly identical measurements in use.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



Spatial posted:

Users don't even know what a megabyte is in the first place. The only thing it'll do for them is create a little confusion, since there'll be two nearly identical measurements in use.

And soon we'll have the less informed Mac fanboys sperging about how Macs can use external drives more efficiently and thus give you more space.

dwazegek
Feb 11, 2005

WE CAN USE THIS


Lum posted:

And soon we'll have the less informed Mac fanboys sperging about how Macs can use external drives more efficiently and thus give you more space.

But Windows can store more data in a MB

Tommy Calamari
Feb 25, 2006

You see, there are three things that spur the mollusk from the sand

fishmech posted:

Since RAM is still sold in binary megabytes/gigabytes, I'd rather storage measurements remained in binary.

Isn't the doubling an intrinsic part in the manufacture of RAM/HDs anyway? So yeah, we'll have weird poo poo like 4.3GB/2.1GB of RAM. No wait, 4GB RAM with 0.3GB free.

People will be confused why two 1.1GB sticks of RAM are the same as one 2.1GB stick.

(I'm assuming they start from bytes).

afflictionwisp
Aug 26, 2003

Following arrays have missing required members and cannot be configured.
ARRAY #0 RAID-5

No Logical Drives found.


Tommy Calamari posted:

Isn't the doubling an intrinsic part in the manufacture of RAM/HDs anyway? So yeah, we'll have weird poo poo like 4.3GB/2.1GB of RAM. No wait, 4GB RAM with 0.3GB free.

People will be confused why two 1.1GB sticks of RAM are the same as one 2.1GB stick.

(I'm assuming they start from bytes).

See, this post hurt my head, and I know what I'm doing. Proof we should just leave well enough alone. 1024 Supremacy!

Edit:

Lum posted:

And soon we'll have the less informed Mac fanboys sperging about how Macs can use external drives more efficiently and thus give you more space.

A better reason. Making this change provides no real benefit to either the system, since the disk is the same size, or the user, since the ones this would effect have no concept of file size anyway. So it sounds nice to the marketing people but will only serve to further confuse the issue.

afflictionwisp fucked around with this message at Aug 24, 2009 around 20:33

ShoulderDaemon
Oct 9, 2003


Tommy Calamari posted:

Isn't the doubling an intrinsic part in the manufacture of RAM/HDs anyway?

It's intrinsic in RAM, but not conventional HDs, and not in flash HDs any larger than a few GB.

And to be honest, I don't see a huge problem with measuring RAM in units of 1024, and HDs in units of 1000, and calling everything "KB" and "MB" and "GB". It's not like you ever need to directly compare your free RAM with your free HD space; they're used for different purposes, so the units don't need to be comparable, and we might as well just use whatever the manufacturers have settled on for each market.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



ShoulderDaemon posted:

It's not like you ever need to directly compare your free RAM with your free HD space

hiberfil.sys

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Родина слышит


The people that are confused by this sort of thing don't know what hyberfil.sys is and how to see it in Explorer anyway.

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

My sixteen gig log file; let me show you it. What? No, of course you can't delete it. Ever.

xarph
Jun 18, 2001

The rules of the game are impenetrable and the result is always contested.

boo_radley posted:

My sixteen gig log file; let me show you it. What? No, of course you can't delete it. Ever.

My favorite followup to this is when they DO manage to delete it, then wonder where their database went.

mono
Jul 18, 2003

It's toe-tapping-ly tragic!


Bringing this back up from the last page, user reviews:

"I know they don't list Linux as supported in the specs and their website doesn't have drivers, but this is unacceptable that this card won't work in Linux." 1 out of 5 eggs

"product works great, couldn't ask for more. slow shipping, product arrived in 8 days" 2 out of 5 stars

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


mono posted:

Bringing this back up from the last page, user reviews:

"I know they don't list Linux as supported in the specs and their website doesn't have drivers, but this is unacceptable that this card won't work in Linux." 1 out of 5 eggs

"product works great, couldn't ask for more. slow shipping, product arrived in 8 days" 2 out of 5 stars

I wonder if we can convince Newegg to add user filters to reviews, so we could filter out anything with Linux or Shipping in it.

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

Casao posted:

I wonder if we can convince Newegg to add user filters to reviews, so we could filter out anything with Linux or Shipping in it.

PRODUCT ARRIVED DOA
0 Starts even though newegg's return policy is absurdly generous.


vvv

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Arsten
Feb 18, 2003


This has to be the most hilarious review ever (on newegg about some blender):

quote:

Pros: None that I can think of.
Cons: This blender has to be the worst product I have ever used. Making a simple smoothie turns into a half hour job because the blender doesn't mix the liquid it just chops up whatever is in the bottom. Making anything thicker than pudding is almost impossible.
Other Thoughts: The blender also gives everything a metallic taste.

Problems noted:
It functions like a blender wherestuff on the bottom gets mixed. WOW, WHAT A CONCEPT. It's almost like there are spinning blades on the bottom or something, and the rest of the liquid slowly turns into a vortex.

Things have a metallic taste. WOW! I didn't read the instructions that come with drat near every appliance ever about cleaning prior to use, and that means the blender is HORRIBLE.

Also, note the contradiction: "...doesn't mix the liquid it just chops up whatever is in the bottom" and then "Making anything thicker than pudding is almost impossible." So it either can't ix liquids, or it can, just not pudding-thick liquids?

I honestly wonder what maintenance-free super-blender he's used in the past worth $30 that has worked miraculously and crushed entire mangoes in it's blendy clutches.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Arsten posted:

I honestly wonder what maintenance-free super-blender he's used in the past worth $30 that has worked miraculously and crushed entire mangoes in it's blendy clutches.

He probably called it "Mom"

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003


Factor Mystic posted:

He probably called it "Mom"

Or he just saw too many "Will it Blend?" videos.

(and as we all know, "Watch it Shred" is far superior.)

Ted Stevens
Jun 2, 2007

by T. Finn


Then there are some people who just can't give something a low rating. For instance.

Pros: It's a good "item" but it's too expensive for what it is or something along those lines
Cons: It's expensive, shipping was slow, it took a long time to set up, it killed my dog.

All in all, 5-stars.

Or:

Pros: This is a flawless device made by the holy trinity. Even Jebus would be proud of this device.

Cons: None.

4-stars

LieutenantFrost
Aug 9, 2009


Another favorite of mine is when people post their system specs in a review, even if the system has nothing to do with the pros/cons of the product in question. Keep waving the e-penis, kids. Maybe someone will care someday.

rt4
Feb 19, 2008


LieutenantFrost posted:

Another favorite of mine is when people post their system specs in a review, even if the system has nothing to do with the pros/cons of the product in question. Keep waving the e-penis, kids. Maybe someone will care someday.

GIGABYTE E4000 PL-2 WF/t

drat! What a motherboard!

The Sponge
Sep 15, 2006



LieutenantFrost posted:

Another favorite of mine is when people post their system specs in a review, even if the system has nothing to do with the pros/cons of the product in question. Keep waving the e-penis, kids. Maybe someone will care someday.

The best is when people post their HIGH END EXTREEEME LAPTOP specs. Enjoy your burnt testicles, peeling paint, and lack of any semblance of mobility.

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

The Sponge posted:

Enjoy your burnt testicles

High-temperature laptops are just another handy form of male fertility control, right up there with tight blue jeans.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

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Midelne posted:

High-temperature laptops are just another handy form of male fertility control, right up there with tight blue jeans.

Who is putting their laptops directly on their testicles? Cause mine sits on the edge of my knees and never comes near anything delicate.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

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Casao posted:

Who is putting their laptops directly on their testicles? Cause mine sits on the edge of my knees and never comes near anything delicate.
Those huge, heavy-rear end "gamer" laptops are impossible to hold in any reasonable position.

Cavepimp
Nov 9, 2006


Or those of us whose testicles migrate south for the summer.

HatfulOfHollow
Sep 28, 2000

Dancing is forbidden in the land of [SA]HatfulOfHollow

Casao posted:

Who is putting their laptops directly on their testicles? Cause mine sits on the edge of my knees and never comes near anything delicate.

Speak for yourself tiny-balls. My mammoth testes are forever getting burnt by my badass gaming rig.

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

HatfulOfHollow posted:

Speak for yourself tiny-balls. My mammoth testes are forever getting burnt by my badass gaming rig.

Same here, and I don't even use a laptop.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


HatfulOfHollow posted:

Speak for yourself tiny-balls. My mammoth testes are forever getting burnt by my badass gaming rig.

Do you have short legs or balls that are 2 feet in diameter?

Cavepimp posted:

Or those of us whose testicles migrate south for the summer.

Do you have old grandpa balls that hang down to your knees? Migrate as far south as humanly possible, and I don't see how putting your laptop on your knees will ever burn your testicles.

Cavepimp
Nov 9, 2006


You have an unnatural curiosity when it comes to my balls.

It's OK, don't fight it.

Wait, no....FIGHT IT, FIGHT IT

Lovie Unsmith
Mar 19, 2005



Do your balls hang low? Can you swing them to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot ? Can you tie 'em in a bow?

Trixter
Apr 15, 2003


sm8000 posted:

Do your balls hang low? Can you swing them to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot ? Can you tie 'em in a bow?

Excuse me good Sir, but isn't it "Do your balls hang low? Do they wobble to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?"

Lovie Unsmith
Mar 19, 2005



Trixter posted:

Excuse me good Sir, but isn't it "Do your balls hang low? Do they wobble to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?"



Yours sounds more correct than what I Googled because I couldn't remember

c0burn
Sep 2, 2003

The KKKing


Trixter posted:

Excuse me good Sir, but isn't it "Do your balls hang low? Do they wobble to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?"



His is the one I know

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Caged
May 21, 2004


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