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Stuntman Mike
Apr 14, 2007
The saucer people are coming!

Steppo posted:

Here's my daily argument with anyone at our company:

I want a new PC this is too slow.
It's a Core 2 Duo with 3 GB of RAM on Windows XP. How in the hell is it slow?
IT JUST IS I WANT A NEW ONE
Notify your supervisor and if they're willing to be billed, I'll be happy to get you a new PC.
YOU SET $name UP WITH A NEW PC AND HERS IS SO FAST
She doesn't have a new PC. It's a Pentium 3 with about 512MB of RAM.
BUT SHES SO HAPPY WITH IT WHY CANT YOU DO THAT FOR ME WAAAAAH

"Hi, you've reached IT. How can we help you not resent your technology today?"

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EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


Steppo posted:

BUT SHES SO HAPPY WITH IT WHY CANT YOU DO THAT FOR ME WAAAAAH

I think you've discovered the secret, people expect IT to bring them happiness.

Richard Noggin
Jun 6, 2005
Redneck By Default


Steppo posted:

Here's my daily argument with anyone at our company:

I want a new PC this is too slow.
It's a Core 2 Duo with 3 GB of RAM on Windows XP. How in the hell is it slow?
IT JUST IS I WANT A NEW ONE
Notify your supervisor and if they're willing to be billed, I'll be happy to get you a new PC.
YOU SET $name UP WITH A NEW PC AND HERS IS SO FAST
She doesn't have a new PC. It's a Pentium 3 with about 512MB of RAM.
BUT SHES SO HAPPY WITH IT WHY CANT YOU DO THAT FOR ME WAAAAAH

Simple. Offer to swap $name's and 's systems. Butter up with things like "she's not going to like this, but I used my (*flexes*) authoritah and made her switch.

Richard Noggin
Jun 6, 2005
Redneck By Default


Casao posted:

I think you've discovered the secret, people expect IT to bring them happiness.

gently caress that. My happiness comes in a bottle, and I ain't sharing.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Родина слышит


Steppo posted:

Here's my daily argument with anyone at our company:

I want a new PC this is too slow.
It's a Core 2 Duo with 3 GB of RAM on Windows XP. How in the hell is it slow?
IT JUST IS I WANT A NEW ONE
Notify your supervisor and if they're willing to be billed, I'll be happy to get you a new PC.
YOU SET $name UP WITH A NEW PC AND HERS IS SO FAST
She doesn't have a new PC. It's a Pentium 3 with about 512MB of RAM.
BUT SHES SO HAPPY WITH IT WHY CANT YOU DO THAT FOR ME WAAAAAH

Do exactly what was asked of you! I'm sure you can find a P3 on Craigslist for about $20. Bill it to her department.

xarph
Jun 18, 2001

The rules of the game are impenetrable and the result is always contested.

LieutenantFrost posted:

People whose response to every semi-complicated question is "Let's have a meeting!"

Employee from a recent acquisition asks my boss when I'll be done with my current zillion projects and start working on his.

Boss's response is an hour long powerpoint webex (which I was dragged into for no reason that I can discern) to explain the whole department's orgchart and purpose for existing.

The question remains unanswered to this day. Probably because I directly report to a manager, a director, a VP, and some random executive on the opposite coast whose job title I have never seen.

EVIR Gibson
Mar 23, 2001




Does anyone deal with FIPS around here?

The new standard I read a bit of sounds like someone was reading a $2 security magazine with pupils the size of piepans going "OH MAN OH MAN OH MAN OH MAN COOOL" without realizing there is no actual real commercial implementation in the world today using those technologies.


edit: actually, I read the history of previous FIPS codes and it looks like they are really slow in implementing it. Just really weird to see some of the stuff government tries to do.

kampy
Oct 11, 2008


Steppo posted:

Here's my daily argument with anyone at our company:

I want a new PC this is too slow.
It's a Core 2 Duo with 3 GB of RAM on Windows XP. How in the hell is it slow?
IT JUST IS I WANT A NEW ONE
Notify your supervisor and if they're willing to be billed, I'll be happy to get you a new PC.
YOU SET $name UP WITH A NEW PC AND HERS IS SO FAST
She doesn't have a new PC. It's a Pentium 3 with about 512MB of RAM.
BUT SHES SO HAPPY WITH IT WHY CANT YOU DO THAT FOR ME WAAAAAH

All signs point to having administrator rights on the machine, suspecting iTunes and about 90 other crappy programs in startup/run, maybe some viruses thrown in for good measure.

T.K.
Dec 25, 2009

shenanigans upon 1000 equally unprecedented shenanigans

When testing a new antivirus for enterprise-wide deployment, make sure to exclude the I.T. group's computers from your super-restrictive scan policy.

I got to spend most of the day today reloading backups of 4 different machines because the AV destroyed most of our tool directories.

Commercial remote-control software has no business being detected as a virus!! Jesus christ

AutoArgus
Jun 24, 2009


Holy jesus christ, remedy is a steaming bucket of pipin' fresh hot poo poo. We're moving from 6 to 7 within the next month supposedly, someone please tell me it gets better

brc64
Mar 21, 2008

I wear my sunglasses at night.

I rebooted my notebook this morning for some Vista updates. Upon logging back in, hpzsetup.exe requesting permission to run, with the oh-so-familiar HP spinning hourglass in the background. I grant permission.

"Congratulations! Software installation complete." WTF, HP? Do you just randomly reinstall whenever you feel like it? I have automatic updates disabled because of your lovely software. Argh!

Edit: Now it's asking me to register, even though I've told it no, never ask again, leave me the gently caress alone.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have an oral fixation and it's not the sexy kind

brc64 posted:

I rebooted my notebook this morning for some Vista updates. Upon logging back in, hpzsetup.exe requesting permission to run, with the oh-so-familiar HP spinning hourglass in the background. I grant permission.

"Congratulations! Software installation complete." WTF, HP? Do you just randomly reinstall whenever you feel like it? I have automatic updates disabled because of your lovely software. Argh!

Edit: Now it's asking me to register, even though I've told it no, never ask again, leave me the gently caress alone.

I've had this happen because the HP software piggybacked a dll on to the spooler service. That dll was removed, the software saw that and ran a repair install to put it back there.

monkeybounce
Feb 9, 2007


brc64 posted:

I rebooted my notebook this morning for some Vista updates. Upon logging back in, hpzsetup.exe requesting permission to run, with the oh-so-familiar HP spinning hourglass in the background. I grant permission.

"Congratulations! Software installation complete." WTF, HP? Do you just randomly reinstall whenever you feel like it? I have automatic updates disabled because of your lovely software. Argh!

Edit: Now it's asking me to register, even though I've told it no, never ask again, leave me the gently caress alone.

Are you using the HP OEM image or a VLK/MAK?

On a tablet (2710p), I would have this come up every.single.time I would reboot the machine. After about 6 weeks of back and forth with HP, their suggestion was to use the OEM image as "it contains files and registry keys pertinent to HP Software".

I finally tracked it down to exactly what Bangers just said. They packaged a modified DLL into their product. Windows didn't let it replace the DLL, so every time the machine started, it would see that it's not the right one and try a repair install.

brc64
Mar 21, 2008

I wear my sunglasses at night.

monkeybounce posted:

Are you using the HP OEM image or a VLK/MAK?

On a tablet (2710p), I would have this come up every.single.time I would reboot the machine. After about 6 weeks of back and forth with HP, their suggestion was to use the OEM image as "it contains files and registry keys pertinent to HP Software".

I finally tracked it down to exactly what Bangers just said. They packaged a modified DLL into their product. Windows didn't let it replace the DLL, so every time the machine started, it would see that it's not the right one and try a repair install.
No, it's a Dell notebook. This was the HP Photosmart driver package prompting me. Still could have been a DLL replacement thing, though. At least it didn't stick me in a "please insert the CD" install loop this time.

Does Brother make good photo printing printers? That's the primary reason we bought this one, and the print quality is really nice... but the software, oh the software...

monkeybounce
Feb 9, 2007


brc64 posted:

No, it's a Dell notebook. This was the HP Photosmart driver package prompting me. Still could have been a DLL replacement thing, though. At least it didn't stick me in a "please insert the CD" install loop this time.

Does Brother make good photo printing printers? That's the primary reason we bought this one, and the print quality is really nice... but the software, oh the software...

Uninstall the software, then reinstall it and watch it with Procmon/Regmon/whatever its called now. That's how I found out about the DLL.

It's probably a DLL with the spooler as Bangers said. The updates probably...updated...it and HP software seems to always freak out if every piece isn't as it was when installed.

As for Brother making good photo printers, I've got the MFC885xx and it's awesome. You can even set the ink saturation levels. I've never had a bad print come out, even when I loaded the paper upside down.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007



The shower of bastards that work for TalkTalk.

About 3 weeks ago someone from TalkTalk rang my dad and convinced him to sign up for their incredibly lovely broadband. He's only 2 months into a 12 months contract with someone else, but apparently this didn't register with him at the time.

The activation date wasn't until the 23rd, so I told him to cancel his order with TalTalk, which he did. A week later his current ISP started ringing him every day saying he was due to be cut off. He called TT again, who told him "yeah, we've cancelled it, even though all the systems say it's not, and even though the work order for the 23rd is still showing up on our computer, it's totally cancelled honest!".

Yesterday morning his broadband went off.

Ringing Talk Talk's customer service line is an exercise in frustration. Not only do non of the menu options even vaguely resemble the problem, or indeed the sort of problem any normal person would have. You also spent 20 minutes on hold before someone seemingly working in a white noise factory answers and says "yes help you please?" in a thick, barely intelligible accent, who then hangs up instantly when you say anything more complicated than hello.

Somewhere in the foulest pits of hell Hilter, Poll Pot, and Idi Amin are forced to spend eternity ringing Talk Talk customer services. Satan himself thinks this might be a bit much.

The Macaroni
Dec 20, 2002
...it does nothing.

Steppo posted:

I want a new PC this is too slow.
It's a Core 2 Duo with 3 GB of RAM on Windows XP. How in the hell is it slow?
Stories like these always piss me off because the 10 idiots like this user drown out the one poor person who really is saddled with crappy equipment.

When I started at my current job, I had an 512MHz eMac with a broken monitor. (This was in 2008, mind you.) You can bet I bitched up a storm, but when I did get upgraded to a decent Mac Mini, I was hugely grateful to IT. Not only that, but every time since then when they've offered hardware upgrades, I tell them that I'm doing fine and they should help out someone else who's worse off than me.

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard

Steppo posted:

Here's my daily argument with anyone at our company:

I want a new PC this is too slow.
It's a Core 2 Duo with 3 GB of RAM on Windows XP. How in the hell is it slow?
IT JUST IS I WANT A NEW ONE
Notify your supervisor and if they're willing to be billed, I'll be happy to get you a new PC.
YOU SET $name UP WITH A NEW PC AND HERS IS SO FAST
She doesn't have a new PC. It's a Pentium 3 with about 512MB of RAM.
BUT SHES SO HAPPY WITH IT WHY CANT YOU DO THAT FOR ME WAAAAAH

Say you'll replace it on her day off. On that day, bring it in, change the case (buy/find a good clean shiny one) and CD drive and put it back. It's the sugar pill of computing and it works wonders, especially with the female staff who often get very excited about New&Shiny

(I have never done this, directly at least, but it's very tempting)

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

One martini is all right. Two are too many, and three are not enough.


GoDaddy.

For fucks sake can you please maker your poo poo work for once in your god awful existence? I almost refuse to work with customers who host at GoDaddy.

Anyway GoDaddy is useless for anything not a cheap SSL. And even then its annoying.

golgo13sf
Aug 18, 2003

iSheep krew represent


KenMornignstar posted:

GoDaddy.

For fucks sake can you please maker your poo poo work for once in your god awful existence? I almost refuse to work with customers who host at GoDaddy.

Anyway GoDaddy is useless for anything not a cheap SSL. And even then its annoying.

I can't understand how a major registrar can have the most god-awfully slow website in existence. It's like the CEO of Ferrari driving a Geo Metro.

monkeybounce
Feb 9, 2007


golgo13sf posted:

I can't understand how a major registrar can have the most god-awfully slow website in existence. It's like the CEO of Ferrari driving a Geo Metro.

Not to mention one of the most god-awful layout and designs for a website. I doubt they've ever heard the word "streamline".

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

Speaking of how lovely GoDaddy is, they insist on saving my loving Pay Pal account all the time. I have to go in and delete it after. Also, they just recently auto re-newed my SSL certificate and I was unaware I had that on due to their lovely loving horrible web interface and slow god drat site. gently caress GoDaddy.

May switch to Enom soon.

golgo13sf
Aug 18, 2003

iSheep krew represent


monkeybounce posted:

Not to mention one of the most god-awful layout and designs for a website. I doubt they've ever heard the word "streamline".

This is my other favorite GoDaddy quirk. If you have an account there when you go to the home page it says "Welcome XYZ" with no login fields visible, so you think "Cool, don't have to login, it's set to remember me". Now go try and view your domains or change DNS. HAHA, you have to login again! Why don't you just have me log in in the first place, it's so loving convoluted.

g3k
Oct 1, 2009

oh god, how did this get here i am not good with computer


last few posters posted:

go daddy stuff

Not to mention, they are also possibly logging into your stuff:
http://blog.sucuri.net/2010/02/goda...s-in-clear.html

sucuri.net posted:

"GoDaddy store your passwords in clear-text and may try to SSH to your VPS without permission"

Elected by Dogs
Apr 20, 2006


monkeybounce posted:

Not to mention one of the most god-awful layout and designs for a website. I doubt they've ever heard the word "streamline".

It's a feature, not a bug.

They probably patented the 350-step checkout process.

Balzac Jones
Dec 26, 2008


golgo13sf posted:

If you have an account there when you go to the home page it says "Welcome XYZ" with no login fields visible, so you think "Cool, don't have to login, it's set to remember me". Now go try and view your domains or change DNS. HAHA, you have to login again! Why don't you just have me log in in the first place, it's so loving convoluted.

Well, large e-commerce companies like Amazon and Newegg do very similar things -- greet you by name when you load the main page, but ask to log in again before allowing you to actually make a purchase. It's a reasonable (not sure how actually useful) security measure to make sure the user is legitimate before anything major is committed to.

T.K.
Dec 25, 2009

shenanigans upon 1000 equally unprecedented shenanigans

Elected by Dogs posted:

It's a feature, not a bug.

They probably patented the 350-step checkout process.

And every single goddamned step is another upsell you have to either avoid clicking on or (in order to, yknow, keep you from just mashing continue and getting on with your life) uncheck the upsell they helpfully selected for you by default!

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

g3k posted:

Not to mention, they are also possibly logging into your stuff:
http://blog.sucuri.net/2010/02/goda...s-in-clear.html

How loving long do we have to be on the Internet before major tech businesses stop storing crap in plaintext?

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Hey Great Plains I'll just start integrating eConnect now. Oh what's that? The column name for Credits is CRDTAMNT and for Debits its DEBITAMT? And other columns don't have an 8 character limit some randomly do? AWESOME.

g3k
Oct 1, 2009

oh god, how did this get here i am not good with computer


Midelne posted:

How loving long do we have to be on the Internet before major tech businesses stop storing crap in plaintext?

He did an update, GoDaddy contacted him: http://blog.sucuri.net/2010/02/goda...ity-update.html

tl;dr, it's not plaintext, it's encrypted, but the security team can decrypt it on a case by case basis when needed. (which lets be honest, you might as well store it in plaintext)

To get back to my story from last week: The keylogger did what it was supposed to and I emailed my boss the log explaining everything.

He didn't even look at it and the response I got was "Not much I can do" and shrugged. I can't take it to IA because of the clusterfuck of bureaucracy here, I'd probably get more hassle than it's worth. (She's made her way around the station if you know what I mean)

ah well

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

g3k posted:

To get back to my story from last week: The keylogger did what it was supposed to and I emailed my boss the log explaining everything.

He didn't even look at it and the response I got was "Not much I can do" and shrugged. I can't take it to IA because of the clusterfuck of bureaucracy here, I'd probably get more hassle than it's worth. (She's made her way around the station if you know what I mean)

ah well



That's life.

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

g3k posted:

He did an update, GoDaddy contacted him: http://blog.sucuri.net/2010/02/goda...ity-update.html

I stand moderately mollified by what looks to have been a pretty good customer service response from GoDaddy. Reversible encryption could potentially be significantly better than cleartext if it's well thought out -- it's still no hash+salt, but it's not as bad as it looked.

mono
Jul 18, 2003

It's toe-tapping-ly tragic!


I hate when people are talking to an auto-attendant, screaming at the phone:

"TECH. SUPPORT."

"INTERNET!"

"....INTERNET"

"..........INTERNET YOU SON OF A BITCH"

Me:

"Uh, you know, you can just press 1 or 2..."

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

brb, shortcut

I've probably railed against this before, but it's worth mentioning again because it's still ridiculous and obnoxious as hell: Music while you're on hold.

Yes, that's a fabulous idea. Let's pipe music through a device that has a maximum frequency of 3000Hz. I don't know about you, but I love muddled garbage when I'm listening to some sweet hold tunes.

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

mono posted:

I hate when people are talking to an auto-attendant, screaming at the phone:

"TECH. SUPPORT."

"INTERNET!"

"....INTERNET"

"..........INTERNET YOU SON OF A BITCH"

Me:

"Uh, you know, you can just press 1 or 2..."

A little tip to get past a lot of bots is to lie about the language right at the start. English takes you to a bot and French/Spanish will take you to a rep (usually).

g3k
Oct 1, 2009

oh god, how did this get here i am not good with computer


Phone posted:

I've probably railed against this before, but it's worth mentioning again because it's still ridiculous and obnoxious as hell: Music while you're on hold.

Yes, that's a fabulous idea. Let's pipe music through a device that has a maximum frequency of 3000Hz. I don't know about you, but I love muddled garbage when I'm listening to some sweet hold tunes.

One vendor we have plays this obnoxious classical music that nearly busts the speakers on our handsets. In fact, I'm on hold with them right now.

Elected by Dogs
Apr 20, 2006


mono posted:

I hate when people are talking to an auto-attendant, screaming at the phone:

"TECH. SUPPORT."

"INTERNET!"

"....INTERNET"

"..........INTERNET YOU SON OF A BITCH"

Me:

"Uh, you know, you can just press 1 or 2..."

I have had people press random numbers and yell option choices when I pick up and say "Hi, this is IT"

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Excellent. The Arkham Asylum
shower cam is operational.

Phone posted:

I've probably railed against this before, but it's worth mentioning again because it's still ridiculous and obnoxious as hell: Music while you're on hold.

Yes, that's a fabulous idea. Let's pipe music through a device that has a maximum frequency of 3000Hz. I don't know about you, but I love muddled garbage when I'm listening to some sweet hold tunes.

Even better, the person calling puts it on speaker phone and cranks up the volume so they don't have to hold the phone to their ear while they're waiting.

Tatsujin
Apr 26, 2004


EVERYONE EXCEPT THE HOT WOMEN



g3k posted:

One vendor we have plays this obnoxious classical music that nearly busts the speakers on our handsets. In fact, I'm on hold with them right now.

Parallels?

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g3k
Oct 1, 2009

oh god, how did this get here i am not good with computer


Tatsujin posted:

Parallels?

Aegis. Speaking of them: I rather wish they never migrated to .NET. Ever since then, one of our modules has been a bitch to update/install on a fresh client.

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