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Jerk McJerkface
Jan 16, 2004

I think the government should socialize cell phones.They'd have a matrix of your income, social position, and job type, and then assign you a cell phone that is appropriate.


The Gunslinger posted:

My contribution for today is Quickbooks.

If I have to go on to a clients server and restart and rescan the Quickbooks Database Manager because someone is getting an multiuser mode H202 error, I'm going to jump out a window.

Why do you hate me, Quickbooks?

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scottch
Oct 18, 2003
"It appears my wee-wee's been stricken with rigor mortis."

hyperborean posted:

I think I bitched about this already, but it's still pissing me off: When searching the web for a song, book, game, whatever, I get a lot of results like "This track isn’t available yet", "Be the first to write a review for", "0 items found for", and so forth. Thanks internet, if I wanted somebody to say "I've heard of them but I've never heard them" I'd go ask a real person. Search is worthless when you get poo poo like this. Just because eBay or last.fm or whatever else is a big site they get thrown into web results without any actual information.

If Google ever added an ability to block addresses from showing up in your results, complete with wildcards, I think I'd run to their office and marry whoever was responsible. I know it'll never happen, but could you imagine being able to filter out all those completely useless "review" sites?

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

hyperborean posted:

I think I bitched about this already, but it's still pissing me off: When searching the web for a song, book, game, whatever, I get a lot of results like "This track isn’t available yet", "Be the first to write a review for", "0 items found for", and so forth. Thanks internet, if I wanted somebody to say "I've heard of them but I've never heard them" I'd go ask a real person. Search is worthless when you get poo poo like this. Just because eBay or last.fm or whatever else is a big site they get thrown into web results without any actual information.

I hadn't really thought about that before, but you're right. I get the same crap when I'm searching for hardware reviews or whatever as well.

vlack
Feb 7, 2004

Stay frosty, Sparky

scottch posted:

If Google ever added an ability to block addresses from showing up in your results, complete with wildcards, I think I'd run to their office and marry whoever was responsible. I know it'll never happen, but could you imagine being able to filter out all those completely useless "review" sites?

I have wanted this for such a long loving time. I would never, ever again have to see domains with more than three hyphens, qarchive.org, swik.net, and the infamous ExpertS-exChange.com.

The other thing I've wished for is being able to search by page creation (well, OK, page indexing) time. A very large subset of my searches require information from the last 12-36 months, and anything from before that is useless crap. For some people, I imagine that's nearly all of their searches.

PainBreak
Jun 9, 2001


scottch posted:

If Google ever added an ability to block addresses from showing up in your results, complete with wildcards, I think I'd run to their office and marry whoever was responsible. I know it'll never happen, but could you imagine being able to filter out all those completely useless "review" sites?

Search google for ebay auctions -site:ebay.com

Anything you don't want to show up, put a - in front of it.

Raconteurs new album -review -available -site:ebay.com -site:stupidreviewsite

etc...

scottch
Oct 18, 2003
"It appears my wee-wee's been stricken with rigor mortis."

PainBreak posted:

Search google for ebay auctions -site:ebay.com

Anything you don't want to show up, put a - in front of it.

Raconteurs new album -review -available -site:ebay.com -site:stupidreviewsite

etc...

That can help, but it can get rather tedious if you're looking for reviews of a product and you have to subtract all the bullshit URLs from your search string. And by tedious I mean practically impossible. How the hell are there so many of these sites that don't actually do anything?

PainBreak
Jun 9, 2001


scottch posted:

That can help, but it can get rather tedious if you're looking for reviews of a product and you have to subtract all the bullshit URLs from your search string. And by tedious I mean practically impossible. How the hell are there so many of these sites that don't actually do anything?

It's because people poo poo out a bunch of these sites, stuff them full of ads, and SEO the hell out of them by duplicating content and putting backlinks to their other worthless, contentless sites from each site and then sit back and watch the money come in.

Imagine how many times you've ended up at one of those worthless loving sites. As soon as you get there you think, "Well gently caress...this site is completely loving worthless" and hit the back button. You're not the majority of people. The majority of people don't know poo poo for poo poo, so they think "Cool, this site has what I'm looking for!" and clicks the mostly unrelated Adsense ads.

If you own 100 of these contentless websites that still draw traffic, and say you get 20 clicks a day at 10 cents a click on each site, that's $73000 a year. These sites don't really serve content, so you can host 10 on a pretty minimalist hosting package, so say $1000/year for hosting and registration nets you $72k.

This is why.

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

Internet Explorer 7.0. Specifically, the splash-screen it uses to get your initial setup options when you run it for the first time. Doesn't bother me in and of itself because I can read, but I can't count the number of calls I've had from people in a panic with no idea what their Internet was doing.

HIERARCHY OF WEEDZ
Aug 1, 2005



Midelne posted:

Internet Explorer 7.0.

Speaking of which --



Really! That's - that's fascinating. Thanks, IE. And oh! The error message came from Address Bar! So helpful.

Seriously, why would your web browser ever not be able to resolve 'about :blank'?

Elected by Dogs
Apr 20, 2006


scottch posted:

That can help, but it can get rather tedious if you're looking for reviews of a product and you have to subtract all the bullshit URLs from your search string. And by tedious I mean practically impossible. How the hell are there so many of these sites that don't actually do anything?

You can still do -word instead of -site: or -inurl: to remove stuff like *0 reviews*

vlack posted:

I have wanted this for such a long loving time. I would never, ever again have to see domains with more than three hyphens, qarchive.org, swik.net, and the infamous ExpertS-exChange.com.



experts-exchange is actually sorta okay - use the google cache page (or the real page, forgot which) - and you can scroll ALL THE DAY down. Past the first footer. there are answers.

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT

Elected by Dogs posted:

experts-exchange is actually sorta okay - use the google cache page (or the real page, forgot which) - and you can scroll ALL THE DAY down. Past the first footer. there are answers.

What I want to know is how a page with no free content manages to Googlebomb its way to the top of most troubleshooting searches

Elected by Dogs
Apr 20, 2006


Zorilla posted:

What I want to know is how a page with no free content manages to Googlebomb its way to the top of most troubleshooting searches

Scroll all the way down past the first footer , there are comments/etc



ALL the way down. There's free answers.

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT

Elected by Dogs posted:

Scroll all the way down past the first footer , there are comments/etc



ALL the way down. There's free answers.

Yeah, but I figure that's horrible for SEO

Elected by Dogs
Apr 20, 2006


Zorilla posted:

Yeah, but I figure that's horrible for SEO

I'm pretty sure spiders don't check how far down content is.

All they see is the 10-20 pages of keyword spam and "categories"

PainBreak
Jun 9, 2001


Zorilla posted:

What I want to know is how a page with no free content manages to Googlebomb its way to the top of most troubleshooting searches

site:experts-exchange.com
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,160,000 from experts-exchange.com

They have a *LOT* of content, according to the search engine. It's well-crafted.

But more importantly...

link:experts-exchange.com
Results 1 - 10 of about 7,200 linking to experts-exchange.com

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

shopvac4christ posted:



Hello, new wallpaper.

I've had my homepage set to about :blank for ages.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Excellent. The Arkham Asylum
shower cam is operational.

Elected by Dogs posted:

I'm pretty sure spiders don't check how far down content is.

All they see is the 10-20 pages of keyword spam and "categories"

Googlebot prioritizes the first 1K of the HTML and considered the rest of the page less important.

Erwin
Feb 17, 2006



hyperborean posted:

I think I bitched about this already, but it's still pissing me off: When searching the web for a song, book, game, whatever, I get a lot of results like "This track isn’t available yet", "Be the first to write a review for", "0 items found for", and so forth. Thanks internet, if I wanted somebody to say "I've heard of them but I've never heard them" I'd go ask a real person. Search is worthless when you get poo poo like this. Just because eBay or last.fm or whatever else is a big site they get thrown into web results without any actual information.

Along with this is software or anything else that is named without considering google searches. Searching google for anything related to JACK audio gives you a bunch of results about physical audio jacks. Not to mention that with a term like jack, you are just a few unfortunate key words away from being mentally scarred for life.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.


Midelne posted:

Internet Explorer 7.0. Specifically, the splash-screen it uses to get your initial setup options when you run it for the first time. Doesn't bother me in and of itself because I can read, but I can't count the number of calls I've had from people in a panic with no idea what their Internet was doing.

What annoys me more is that even after going through and choosing my settings, I get the same drat page the next time I launch IE7, as if it just plain forgot what I told it.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



Zorilla posted:

What I want to know is how a page with no free content manages to Googlebomb its way to the top of most troubleshooting searches

Experts Exchange serves different content if the useragent is GoogleBot.

When I used Konqueror, I had it configured to automatically report itself as Googlebot for that specific site. This trick also works for many sites that require registration in order to view. Edit: Does anyone make a Firefox plugin with this same functionality?

As for the annoying review sites. Not sure how useful this will be to Americans, but givemebackmygoogle.com automatically adds a string to remove the majority of offending review sites that spoil my UK based searches for products and reviews.

Lum fucked around with this message at May 29, 2008 around 18:40

Elected by Dogs
Apr 20, 2006


Lum posted:

Experts Exchange serves different content if the useragent is GoogleBot.

When I used Konqueror, I had it configured to automatically report itself as Googlebot for that specific site. This trick also works for many sites that require registration in order to view.

As for the annoying review sites. Not sure how useful this will be to Americans, but givemebackmygoogle.com automatically adds a string to remove the majority of offending review sites that spoil my UK bases searches for products and reviews.

Isn't that against Google's ToS or something?

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'



Installing another operating system isn't really a solution to incompatible DRM.



I was looking forward to Sky TV's guide to HD partitioning and OS installs, but that link just goes to a general FAQ page which doesn't even mention Macs.

Meanwhile the BBC iPlayer continues to work flawlessly

nail
Jul 15, 2005



Lum posted:

givemebackmygoogle.com
Hey, this is great, thanks! Here's the sites excluded by that:
kelkoo|bizrate|pixmania|dealtime|pricerunner|dooyoo|pricegrabber| pricewatch|resellerratings|ebay|shopbot|comparestoreprices|ciao| unbeatable|shopping|epinions|nextag|buy|bestwebbuys

That's a lot, but not close to all the stuff I'd like to exclude, obviously it's a pain in the rear end to do this every time. But it's easy to add additional exclusions. Now what I want to do is implement this into my browser-integrated search bar. (in Firefox) I want to add a special engine, so I can do a normal Google when I want to, but have this option available as easily as selecting to search on eBay or Yahoo.

It seems to be simple enough to edit the XML file that denotes the engine. Open any engine in Notepad, change the description, change the URL to http://www.google.com/search?q={searchTerms}+-inurl:(kelkoo|bizrate|etc.) , delete the part about the icon. Once I do this, how do I get Firefox to recognize it? I edited another engine (in the 'searchplugins' folder in my profile) and saved it with a different name, then restarted Firefox, but the new thing didn't show up in the list. I tried opening the file in Firefox, and I got an error "XML Parsing Error: not well-formed" Does anybody know how to correct this?

Athas
Aug 6, 2007
Clever newbie!

Elected by Dogs posted:

Isn't that against Google's ToS or something?

Yes, but I think it uses Javascript to obfuscate the content for non-Google users (since Googlebot doesn't run scripts) and thus technically serves the same page to everyone.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


hyperborean posted:

Hey, this is great, thanks! Here's the sites excluded by that:
kelkoo|bizrate|pixmania|dealtime|pricerunner|dooyoo|pricegrabber| pricewatch|resellerratings|ebay|shopbot|comparestoreprices|ciao| unbeatable|shopping|epinions|nextag|buy|bestwebbuys

That's a lot, but not close to all the stuff I'd like to exclude, obviously it's a pain in the rear end to do this every time. But it's easy to add additional exclusions. Now what I want to do is implement this into my browser-integrated search bar. (in Firefox) I want to add a special engine, so I can do a normal Google when I want to, but have this option available as easily as selecting to search on eBay or Yahoo.

It seems to be simple enough to edit the XML file that denotes the engine. Open any engine in Notepad, change the description, change the URL to http://www.google.com/search?q={searchTerms}+-inurl:(kelkoo|bizrate|etc.) , delete the part about the icon. Once I do this, how do I get Firefox to recognize it? I edited another engine (in the 'searchplugins' folder in my profile) and saved it with a different name, then restarted Firefox, but the new thing didn't show up in the list. I tried opening the file in Firefox, and I got an error "XML Parsing Error: not well-formed" Does anybody know how to correct this?

You completely undo everything you just did, goto the site and right click on the search bar. Click add Keyword search and add one. Bam, it's in your list, you can access it from your address bar with the keyword or from the search bar on the right.

Opera has the same functionality, if you want to do that in Opera.

Lum posted:

Experts Exchange serves different content if the useragent is GoogleBot.

When I used Konqueror, I had it configured to automatically report itself as Googlebot for that specific site. This trick also works for many sites that require registration in order to view. Edit: Does anyone make a Firefox plugin with this same functionality?

As for the annoying review sites. Not sure how useful this will be to Americans, but givemebackmygoogle.com automatically adds a string to remove the majority of offending review sites that spoil my UK based searches for products and reviews.

It's easy enough to do manually in about :config but you can grab an addon here to make a list and change back and forth as necessary. Again, Opera can do this too if this is your browser of choice.

EVGA Longoria fucked around with this message at May 29, 2008 around 20:25

nail
Jul 15, 2005



Casao posted:

You completely undo everything you just did, goto the site and right click on the search bar. Click add Keyword search and add one. Bam, it's in your list, you can access it from your address bar with the keyword or from the search bar on the right.
Did you try this? Because it so does not work for me. I only get the same context menu entries as anywhere (editing, Select All, Clear Search History, and Show Suggestions). I'm using Firefox 2, maybe you can do it in 3?

Anyway, even if it did work, I don't want to use that site. I want to add more exclusions than it has.

Dessert Rose
May 17, 2004

so delicious...



hyperborean posted:

Did you try this? Because it so does not work for me. I only get the same context menu entries as anywhere (editing, Select All, Clear Search History, and Show Suggestions). I'm using Firefox 2, maybe you can do it in 3?

Anyway, even if it did work, I don't want to use that site. I want to add more exclusions than it has.

Check this site. Scroll down a ways.

http://lifehacker.com/software/book...king-196779.php

It shows how to make a bookmark that you can use as a keyword search. You can type any URL in there and have it work.

Ryokurin
Jul 14, 2001

Wanna Die?

scottch posted:

If Google ever added an ability to block addresses from showing up in your results, complete with wildcards, I think I'd run to their office and marry whoever was responsible. I know it'll never happen, but could you imagine being able to filter out all those completely useless "review" sites?

http://www.customizegoogle.com/ Its a firefox plugin that does allow filters along with a few other options. I like the ability to scroll and it automatically stitch the search pages together.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



Casao posted:

It's easy enough to do manually in about :config but you can grab an addon here to make a list and change back and forth as necessary. Again, Opera can do this too if this is your browser of choice.

Yeah, my point was that in Konqueror you can define a default user agent to report and then make a list of site-specific exceptions, therefore I never have to worry about changing for ExpertSexchange or the various newspaper sites or my old electricity provider's online billing service that absolutely requires IE*

*does not require IE. Works fine in Firefox and Konqueror

vlack
Feb 7, 2004

Stay frosty, Sparky

Elected by Dogs posted:

experts-exchange is actually sorta okay - use the google cache page (or the real page, forgot which) - and you can scroll ALL THE DAY down. Past the first footer. there are answers.

Well, I guess it is sorta okay. If you like reading technical discussions written by 12 year olds on AOL, that is.

Seriously, I have used it before, but I don't go there unless my search results turn up nothing otherwise, and usually I try googling harder a few times before actually clicking. It just kinda makes my brain bleed.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

I think the best part of ExpertsExchange is that the URL could be mistaken for a transgender medical site.

vlack
Feb 7, 2004

Stay frosty, Sparky

Me too. Unfortunately, they abandoned that URL a few years ago.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



HPL posted:

I think the best part of ExpertsExchange is that the URL could be mistaken for a transgender medical site.

Yeah, that's why they registered the version with the hyphen, and the old version used to forward you to the new version. It seems to be owned by cybersquatters with a generic lovely search page now though.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


Lum posted:

Yeah, my point was that in Konqueror you can define a default user agent to report and then make a list of site-specific exceptions, therefore I never have to worry about changing for ExpertSexchange or the various newspaper sites or my old electricity provider's online billing service that absolutely requires IE*

*does not require IE. Works fine in Firefox and Konqueror

Opera can do this too, if you set the default then goto site preferences. Or you can use UA.ini to set it up before hand.

nail
Jul 15, 2005



hyperborean posted:

Casao posted:

You completely undo everything you just did, goto the site and right click on the search bar. Click add Keyword search and add one. Bam, it's in your list, you can access it from your address bar with the keyword or from the search bar on the right.
Did you try this? Because it so does not work for me. I only get the same context menu entries as anywhere (editing, Select All, Clear Search History, and Show Suggestions). I'm using Firefox 2, maybe you can do it in 3?

Anyway, even if it did work, I don't want to use that site. I want to add more exclusions than it has.
When you said 'search bar' I thought you mean the built-in search engine bar. I looked up smart keywords, trying to better understand how to apply the process on the page Ryouga Inverse linked, and figured out it's on the search field in the web page where you have to do this. When I did this, it made a regular search bookmark; then I could go into the properties of the bookmark and add the switches I want (the -inurl part) after the wildcard. Now it does what I want, and I can customize it as much as I want. Thank you both!

Now. I will never run out of things to bitch about, I guess. Like programs that open with stupid options.



No Word, I don't need your poo poo 'getting started' thing taking up space every single time I open you. (Not to mention "reading layout". gently caress you, reading layout go away I have never used you) Windows Media Player, even if I wanted to use a library function, I wouldn't because you like to add songs twice even when you obviously know they are the same thing.

I know how to fix these things, I just wish they weren't there in the first place.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

Come on, Kickstarter my heart!


loving Outlook 2003. Every once in a while, for no reason, the Inbox gets a blank space that squishes all the other columns over. Only solution is to un-maximize and re-maximize it, but usually the column widths are all hosed up.

That, and how it changes the "From" column to a "To" column in all my sub-folders. Uh, duh, it's To: me, you loving program.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

My sole partiality is to that delectable spiced meat. Any additional confederation of vegetables shall not compromise the pie as I see it.

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gently caress you, Hotmail. Just give me the loving email and be quiet.

The worst part is that, last time I tried, there's no way to turn this nannyware bullshit off.

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Apr 20, 2006


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gently caress you, Hotmail. Just give me the loving email and be quiet.

The worst part is that, last time I tried, there's no way to turn this nannyware bullshit off.

Why the hell would you use hotmail if you are any form of nerd?

TokenBrit
May 7, 2007
Irony isn't something that's like metal.

Chris Knight posted:

That, and how it changes the "From" column to a "To" column in all my sub-folders. Uh, duh, it's To: me, you loving program.

Not always. Only one of my subfolders contains e-mail that were sent to me. The other 20 are all sent to groups and distribution lists.

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Xenomorph
Jun 13, 2001


Elected by Dogs posted:

Why the hell would you use hotmail if you are any form of nerd?

I've been using it since the 1990's. My current account is one I made while at a job I started at in 1998.
The account I made before that was from 1996 or 1997. It was called HoTMaiL then, and had nothing to do with Microsoft.

Some people can't just leave their email behind 100% because of who/what it has become. It still works, and I still get a messages there (rarely), so I need to be able to check it.

Gmail is easily my preferred email service. It's also the only one where I prefer to use the web interface to an actual client.

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