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Dartanion posted:GAhhhhhhhh!
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| # ? Jul 27, 2010 23:19 |
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angry armadillo posted:I'm going to have to be careful what I post from now on because apparently you are my boss/I am your minion! Considering that you registered yesterday, I think you would've been okay if you hadn't posted this. edit: When did rap sheets come in? I have the rap sheet of a coward. 
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| # ? Jul 27, 2010 23:38 |
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Word came from the top that we are moving out of our old office Friday, when I was off, and to have all our equipment and documents packed and out of our desks for the move on Monday. I had been requesting a timeline or rough idea of when this would happen for over a month 
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| # ? Jul 27, 2010 23:55 |
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Midelne posted:Considering that you registered yesterday, I think you would've been okay if you hadn't posted this.
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| # ? Jul 27, 2010 23:59 |
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LakesGuzzler posted:Double Nmap still works, as does the eye test at http://www.confickerworkinggroup.org/ . Good luck, even after applying to infect over internet patch users can bring it in via USB/other media that patches can't stop.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 00:43 |
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(One for it being so old, one for failing to find it this morning). Didn't have much time to search as there was too much panicking going on. Not even sure if it's the 'A' variant which some things detect it as - the necessary security patches are in place so it's odd - or some new one.
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Yeah it's proving to be fun. Thanks to nmap I think we have it nailed Edit: Meanwhile... "NO NO NO! What did you give the machine that number for?!" "Erm, it was the next number?" "We're going DOWN and recycling the old numbers! *gnashing of teeth*" Christ. Who cares as long as it's unique. Heck by recycling machine numbers (for the hostname / netbios name) there's every risk of firing up an old HDD one day and hitting a conflict, or various pieces of network based software mistaking it for the machine that it used to be. I don't see the need to get wound up about having "holes" in the numbering. Can't be OCD, he's far too untidy. More along the lines of being an "I'm right, I'm the boss" dick. GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at Jul 28, 2010 around 13:31 |
| # ? Jul 28, 2010 12:28 |
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LakesGuzzler posted:"NO NO NO! What did you give the machine that number for?!" MUST .. CONSERVE .. ALPHANUMERIC CHARACTERS ..
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 13:42 |
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Sacrificing quality for speed.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 13:55 |
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Reduce, reuse, recycle  Less than 100 machines, the first 3 characters are a legacy that I'm sure made sense to someone years ago but which are static nowadays and serve no purpose. They did start half way through the alphabet, so the sequence might only last 500 years before it reaches the Win9x limit, or about 20-50 years before it gains an extra digit and becomes more difficult to type 
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 14:00 |
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loving windows x64 drivers somehow breaking the collate function on my printer, wtf?
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 14:15 |
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rscott posted:loving windows x64 drivers somehow breaking the collate function on my printer, wtf? Jesus, gently caress printers. We've got a machine running CUPS and Samba for our printing needs. Linux and Mac clients work great. The printers all show up, all the options are available, it's great. Windows is another loving story. Half of the time when I try and install a driver to the server I get "permission denied." If it does install, it'll probably fail to print anyway. 64 bit drivers are a loving nightmare, because none of the HP printers have 64 bit drivers. Our attempt at adding the printers to a Win 2k8R2 box and sharing from there to Windows clients blows, the printers there have the same problem they do coming directly from the CUPS server.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 14:22 |
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Ha, Windows printing. Which driver is the least buggy/basic/awkward to use for this printer... let's see, there's PS, PCL5, PCL6, RPCS...
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 14:24 |
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LakesGuzzler posted:Ha, Windows printing. I was called out to hook up an all-in-one machine for one of our locations yesterday. It's been on-site for a while, but not configured for scanning because Rod is the one who installed it eight or nine months ago and word on the site is that he "disappeared as soon as the printer was hooked up" and hasn't been responding to emails about it since. It prints just fine, both locally and via our billing server, so that and the second perfectly good scanner that they already have on-site probably defused most of the urgency of the situation. I check the Billing server before I leave, and it's the printer I'm going to be working with is listed as TR-LJ2840-F34. TR is a location code for the mini-site I'm headed to, F34 is the form queue number required by the Billing server, LJ2840 is the model number. Download drivers, start the transfer of the drivers to the site while driving to the site. Arrive on-site, start the installation on a slow computer, yawn a lot. User and I chit-chat about electronics and email scams; primary piece of information I convey is that no, it doesn't make their computer any faster to turn it off at night, and that they would probably have a much smoother user experience in the morning if they just logged off instead. Last message on the EZInstall window after nine minutes of doing nothing: INSTALL FAILED. The printer's a CM2320dn, not a LJ2840. Rod mislabeled the model number. Instead of a 35MB driver, I need to have one of the0 420MB driver packages that I don't have available and I need to pull it from HP's website over a congested T1, send it over another less-congested T1 to the main site, then over a 1-mile connection-drop-prone wireless bridge to get it to the workstation that needs the driver. Start the process, no getting around it, hour and change to pull down the driver and around that to send it to the target workstation. Just for the hell of it, I fire up Microsoft Office Document Imaging. I have to cancel six auto-install windows for HP Solution Center, but somehow it successfully scans. Wrong drivers, printer is installed incorrectly, everything says it isn't working, but there it is, and it works repeatedly under all user accounts. An hour later the user powered down their workstation while I was 350MB into a 400MB file transfer of the correct printer drivers to their system. It was .. picturesque.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 15:03 |
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Speak of the Devil Device, remember the discussion last week about users phoning up for 'trivial' things like needing consumables changed? Now I remember why it's not such a bad thing - just had a user try to replace the toner themselves so naturally they did it without taking the protective plastic tape off. The printer didn't take kindly to this and spewed up the toner reservoir all over its insides. My fingers weren't this colour before... Don't know why I'm surprised - should see the mess some of them make of putting paper into a tray! GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at Jul 28, 2010 around 15:46 |
| # ? Jul 28, 2010 15:41 |
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I love this move, surely the maintenance department will use the box truck to move all of the UPS equipment (it was all delivered to our building for some drat reason) out of the basement (our work / server area, of course). Nope Looks like we get to move it along with all of our equipment, they are just there for the work benches and tables, turns out there are other buildings scheduled to move too Oh well only about another ton or so of equipment to move.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 16:44 |
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LakesGuzzler posted:Don't know why I'm surprised - should see the mess some of them make of putting paper into a tray!  Gah! I can hear that poo poo from across the room, and I don't even have a clear view of the printer. You can hear banging around on the machine, doors opening and closing, paper being torn open for 45 seconds, laid down while they unnecessarily stuff the casing further down in the recycling bin, then the paper picked back up again (and you know it's now shifted and misaligned and then put in upside down), then you can tell they've loaded the wrong side because they push in that part of the tray... finally, you hear them finish up only to open everything up again because it won't print.Thirty seconds into this whole loving mess, who've had to stop working because it's so emotionally distracting that you can't concentrate. Your ears are perched up like scared prey, getting ready to direct you to dive under the desk and hide. After four minutes you have to walk over because they've opened and closed the thing ten times and nothing is happening, they're starting to grumble and you know that's just going to make things worse. You walk over and find that they've loaded too much paper, right up to the line. "Oh, it'll take two and a half reams per side according to the line".  You see that they've incorrectly loaded the right side and the paper detect arm isn't retracting fully, but, just to get back at their idiocy, you proceed to unload all the paper from the device, open a new single ream in five seconds and place it in the correct side and then the thing works as you walk away with five reams of scratch paper. This is why I try to be the one to load the paper when I'm doing major printing for the week. The chances that someone else will touch it go down. tldr: How long does it take, people, to learn the peculiarities of a particular printer?
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 17:16 |
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My second day on the job here I had to replace a toner in a canon photocopier - The ones with a giant open slot that is full of toner. Ofcourse I didn't know this at the time. Yeah I was covered in toner from head to toe and it was/is still all over the floor.  Whoever designed them was laughing their arse off the entire time.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 17:24 |
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Midelne posted:HP My laptop decided to stop recognizing my Photosmart PSC this morning. I had recently downloaded the latest installer since I had to run the initial setup again to change the wireless settings on the printer after I changed our router from WEP to WPA2. Oddly enough, it had worked fine after that, just decided to stop this morning. So I re-run the setup, choose the option to uninstall all HP software. It asked if I was sure, I said yes, then the installer closed. I ran it again, this time opting to manually select what to uninstall. No software found. Head to add/remove programs, select HP Imaging Device Functions 10.0. This is a beautiful uninstaller here. About 6 minutes into the uninstall routine, it's still sitting on step 2/4. What's step 2/4? Verbatim: "Current Progress - Starting services - Service: Starting services" And the progress bar would occasionally just reset during this process. 10 minutes after I started the uninstall it finished. There was one other HP listing in add/remove, so I did that one next. It basically told me there was nothing installed but some files could be deleted, so I had it proceed. "hpqtra08.exe has stopped working" "HP Installer Uninstaller has stopped working" That being said, at least the reinstall worked well.
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Honey Im Homme posted:My second day on the job here I had to replace a toner in a canon photocopier - The ones with a giant open slot that is full of toner. Ofcourse I didn't know this at the time. One of my summer college jobs was working in repro for an engineering firm, where we had big Océ plotters. The toner for these came in giant bottles. To reload the machine with toner when it got low, you unscrewed the cap of the bottle, screwed the bottle into a swivel on the machine, then turned the bottle upright and hit it for 30 seconds to get all the toner out of the bottle and into the machine. Waste toner was also collected in a little plastic bag right underneath this, which you couldn't securely fasten to the machine very well, so it was easy to knock the bag off during the reload process and send a giant cloud of toner into the air. I still find toner stains on my pants occasionally from 7 years ago. We also had another machine that was used to reproduce blueprints for clients that wouldn't accept black and white for whatever reason (some local governments stipulated that plans going out for bid had to be blue and white instead of black and white for whatever reason, or the firm thought they did, or something like that). This machine made heavy use of ammonia and smelled god drat terrible. It was like 1950s-era technology, because it was basically two heavy rollers, a light source, and the bath of ink/ammonia/whatever it was. You had to take the special paper, take the giant transparency which was about 24x36 or 30x48 for huge plans, line them up exactly, and then feed both through the rollers at the same time. Making 20 sets of plans on this thing was not fun and had a tendency to leave me feeling light-headed.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 18:20 |
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Thing number 2 about printer drivers that is pissing me off today: For some reason this printer won't print more than 1 copy of a print job over the network.
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chutwig posted:This machine made heavy use of ammonia and smelled god drat terrible. It was like 1950s-era technology, because it was basically two heavy rollers, a light source, and the bath of ink/ammonia/whatever it was. I believe it was Diazo and I used to use one of those. The Ammonium Hydroxide developer cleared out your sinuses _really_ well. Happy days.
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rscott posted:Thing number 2 about printer drivers that is pissing me off today: For some reason this printer won't print more than 1 copy of a print job over the network. Check both Printing Preferences under General and Printing Defaults under Advanced in the printer properties. I've noticed that computers seem to use Preferences when printing to a local printer and Defaults when printing to a network one, or the other way around.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 19:36 |
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Then the user sends 12 more out to print, the spooler messes up and no one can print. At least the fix was easy: Clear out the print jobs, restart the offending computer and all was well. Here's a problem that pissed me off that normally would be a 30 minute task, tops: User has NeoOffice on his computer and was publishing a book. The request was simple: Put page numbers at the top of the pages and double space the document. But, somehow he created multiple page profiles for different pages and each page had its own profile, in some cases, there was more than one profile corresponding to each page. Also, there were about 40 different profiles created for the 270 page document. If I tried to put the page number at the bottom, about 3 pages would have the correct 1, 2, 3. The 4th page had nothing, not even a header. If I tried to place a page number down again, it would place some random number like 7, 8, 9, then back to 1, 2, 3. I spent way too much time trying to figure out that part, until he just said he'd just put the number at the top of each page himself. There was just so much of a clusterfuck that it probably would have been easier/quicker to just copy/paste each individual page into a new document or even re-write the drat thing from the beginning. Then we get into single/double space: Normally, you just hit command-2 to double space (It's a Mac). No dice. Command-2, ctrl-2, etc. did not change the spacing. It changed the entire formatting of the page. I looked up the keybinding and set it manually to double space when you hit command-2 and command-1 to single space. Then, once everything was set to double space, print the thing out. The document was now about 470 pages. I sat there, let it print, and periodically had to add more paper to it. Finally, I burned the files to a DVD using his DVD-RWs that were only rated for 2x burning. I saved another copy of it to .doc just in case someone couldn't open the NeoOffice file. Even burning these 2 documents took over 5 minutes to burn and I needed to do that twice (one for the publisher and one for his personal use). He was totally happy for everything I did and I left on a good note. But drat, if that wasn't the most ridiculous/bizarre money I made. Ted Stevens fucked around with this message at Jul 28, 2010 around 19:41 |
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I'm about to deploy managed Symantec Endpoint Protection on my newly imaged machines, wish me luck
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 21:25 |
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I think it's safe to say that my boss is a hoarder... 
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 21:29 |
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Bad rear end Boutique posted:I think it's safe to say that my boss is a hoarder... Aaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaa aaaagh Our cabinet full of Zip Disks, let me show you it. wait, I can't because I threw that poo poo away years ago because we didn't have any more drives around.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 21:34 |
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Bad rear end Boutique posted:But .. but .. what if ..
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 21:35 |
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boo_radley posted:Aaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaa aaaagh Oh, dude, I'll lend you some of our drives! They're the external, parallel port variety. My boss also has some Jaz disks (and maybe a drive?) on his Big Shelf of Crap. 
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 21:40 |
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Midelne posted:But .. but .. what if .. I still have sealed copies of Windows 3.1 at home. I don't know why.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 21:40 |
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I really should take pictures of the poo poo we have at work. We still have the "system disk" from our first unix server from back in the 70's 80's. . . why? quote my boss "well one day we might need it"
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 21:46 |
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I needed Win3.11 media and a license last year to set up a virtual machine. I also occasionally have people who need a ZIP disk read. Too bad our 5.25" floppy broke, it was also popular. Especially when connected to that Win3.11 VM I mentioned!
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Noel posted:Too bad our 5.25" floppy broke, it was also popular. Especially when connected to that Win3.11 VM I mentioned! I can't decide if an internal 5.25" drive would be stupidly easy or ridiculously difficult to locate. Some nutbar on eBay is charging $90 for one.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 21:53 |
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When ours broke we decided not to care anymore. As time passed it turned out we were mostly letting other people use it and not using it ourselves. Good for building goodwill, bad for being a pain in the rear end.
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Accipiter posted:I can't decide if an internal 5.25" drive would be stupidly easy or ridiculously difficult to locate. Just a 5.25" disk drive with no guarantee it works? Easy. One that IS guaranteed to work? That's a problem. That's why I'm glad I have 3 that I know work!
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Shame. Back in my day, I insisted that A: was for the 5.25" drive, B: was for the 3.5" drive, and C: was for the hard drive. I used to have a pile of 5.25" drives that I knew worked just fine. Once I realized I'd never use them again (and that I'm not an rear end in a top hat), I got rid of all of them. Which sucks, because since I actually AM an rear end in a top hat, I'd have loving jumped at the chance to sell them on eBay for $50 a pop - to both undercut the cockface that's charging $90 for his, as well as to gouge the everloving poo poo out of the people looking for one.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 22:06 |
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fishmech posted:Just a 5.25" disk drive with no guarantee it works? Easy. until you realize that each drive will only read its own disks and not each others.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 22:08 |
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At this point I doubt if even Microsoft would care if you pirate Windows 3.11 because you threw away the installation disks 10 years ago and just realised the machine that works the doorcards needs it. I'm all for properly licensed software but there's a cutoff point after which it's ridiculous.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 22:11 |
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boo_radley posted:
I fixed one of them somehow to keep it reading stuff right - not sure what exactly I had to do but it worked. There's guides on textfiles.com if you're interested, start from a set of known good disks to read from and you're golden. rolleyes posted:At this point I doubt if even Microsoft would care if you pirate Windows 3.11 because you threw away the installation disks 10 years ago and just realised the machine that works the doorcards needs it. I'm all for properly licensed software but there's a cutoff point after which it's ridiculous. Windows 3.11 never required you to put in a key or anything, take that as you will.
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| # ? Jul 28, 2010 22:14 |
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We keep a USB floppy around, just in case(It gets used every few months, too) and an old parallel passthrough zip drive. We have clients that never upgrade. However, we have this baby:  It's actually in a picture frame and on the wall. And right where you see it as you want into the tech hole, a reminder of the bad old days and how the past sucks(All the disks are actually in the box):  As far as poo poo that pisses me off: Blank passwords. We recently had to beat server 2008 over the head with a large stick, for quite some time, to leave shares totally open. Never mind that stuff like: SSNs, Date of Birth, Payroll data(Including account numbers!) are all stored on that server. Passwords are just. too. hard. We got it in writing that it was against our advice, at least. Sadly, this isn't the only client that pulls that poo poo.
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Citizen Z posted:As far as poo poo that pisses me off: Blank passwords. We recently had to beat server 2008 over the head with a large stick, for quite some time, to leave shares totally open. Never mind that stuff like: SSNs, Date of Birth, Payroll data(Including account numbers!) are all stored on that server. Passwords are just. too. hard. Honestly, if you're storing that sort of information then there's some kind of regulatory agency that oversees its security. And if it's not being secured, you need to report it. If you don't do so, and are just complacent at being "ho hum oh well, that's how they want it", you're almost as bad as the people who insist that it stay that way. That's people's personal information. This is how identity theft happens.
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