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PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

HELP ME MOVE TO A COUNTRY WHERE SLUTTY FAGGOTSWHOOPS I MEAN OTHER GAY PEOPLE DON'T DRINK APPLETINIS, SO I CAN FIND SOMEONE WORTHY OF DATING ME WHO WON'T TAKE TIME AWAY FROM ADMIRING MY OWN FESTERING NECROTIC ANUS

Nice ad hominem.

wiru posted:

...at least it's better doing and failing than not doing it at all and regretting, eh?

This seems to be the motto of some major software companies (well, at least one).

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Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Rolling out password change GP to a site with a couple hundred people that's going to force:
- Strong passwords
- Change every 90 days
- Can't repeat last 4 passwords

I can hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth already...

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have an oral fixation and it's not the sexy kind

Scaramouche posted:

Rolling out password change GP to a site with a couple hundred people that's going to force:
- Strong passwords
- Change every 90 days
- Can't repeat last 4 passwords

I can hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth already...

Ha, I still haven't been able to force password expiry in our domain yet. There was enough crying just because their computers lock after 30 minutes of inactivity and go in to standby.

Soon. Hopefully soon...

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

We're giving you a hint.


Scaramouche posted:

Rolling out password change GP to a site with a couple hundred people that's going to force:
- Strong passwords
- Change every 90 days
- Can't repeat last 4 passwords

I can hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth already...

"WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T USE MYUSERID/PASSWORD/MYNAME/LOLPASSWORD/123456 AS MY PASSWORD?!"

Edit: I do a lot of account management for 3rd party tools for our new hires. A few years ago I started my own GP with good password use and good loving lord did the trainers abloobloo. I finally told one that if he flat out admitted his students were too stupid for semi complex passwords I would back off the complexity a bit. He admitted it.

Maker Of Shoes fucked around with this message at Sep 24, 2010 around 19:18

Syano
Jul 13, 2005


BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Ha, I still haven't been able to force password expiry in our domain yet. There was enough crying just because their computers lock after 30 minutes of inactivity and go in to standby.

Soon. Hopefully soon...

HIPAA really is a dual edged sword. When my people start moaning about password changes I just start saying words like 'protected health information' and 'state survey teams'. Shuts em right up.

chutwig
May 28, 2001

BURLAP SATCHEL OF CRACKERJACKS

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Ha, I still haven't been able to force password expiry in our domain yet. There was enough crying just because their computers lock after 30 minutes of inactivity and go in to standby.

Soon. Hopefully soon...

At my first job, I enabled locking after 15 minutes because it was a university and what with the constant churn of student workers, there had been problems with student workers doing things on unattended computers they shouldn't have been doing.

I got so many complaints from one floor of one building over that policy. That floor was about 10 women, most of them menopausal, and they were responsible for like 80% of the bullshit that went on and 95% of the stupid complaints. One of them spent weeks going around to other employees trying to stir up an agrarian revolt against my ruthlessly draconian security policy, and another one told me and my boss that a 15-minute password lock had "completely shut down productivity". I could actually believe it coming from her, because she and the others on that floor were thick as pig poo poo and were completely useless, so I could easily see them becoming flummoxed by having to enter "abc123!" or whatever their horseshit password was. I just said I wasn't going to change it and cited best security practices and student workers and eventually I didn't hear anything else about it, except for the occasional snipe.

Even the other women in the department hated them and would make snarky comments about how estrogen-infused the atmosphere was up there and how they acted like cougars at a crappy sports bar. I think some guy was hired to work in an office on that floor after I left, and didn't end up lasting very long.

bobua
Mar 23, 2003
I'd trade it all for just a little more.

Pissing me off today: People who can't wipe their rear end without cc'ing the boss.


To: bobua
from: shitstain middle manager
CC: CEO
Bobua, what is the status of the magical box in shipping room 3, the one I spoke to you about fixing 3 weeks ago. I haven't been able to get any work done and THIS IS COSTING THE COMPANY MILLIONS!

To: shitstain middle manager
from: bobua
CC: CEO
It was unplugged. I plugged it back in and tested it. I logged a ticket for you that day and sent you the attached email to let you know, it must have slipped by you. Let me know if there is anything else I can do for you.

Paraphrased of course... the CEO loves these emails, I get the most unprofessional responses from her about them. Yesterday was 'I love you, lol.' You'd think these retards would learn not to gently caress their selfs at every turn.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

If only faces could talk...


bobua posted:

Pissing me off today: People who can't wipe their rear end without cc'ing the boss.


To: bobua
from: shitstain middle manager
CC: CEO
Bobua, what is the status of the magical box in shipping room 3, the one I spoke to you about fixing 3 weeks ago. I haven't been able to get any work done and THIS IS COSTING THE COMPANY MILLIONS!

To: shitstain middle manager
from: bobua
CC: CEO
It was unplugged. I plugged it back in and tested it. I logged a ticket for you that day and sent you the attached email to let you know, it must have slipped by you. Let me know if there is anything else I can do for you.

Paraphrased of course... the CEO loves these emails, I get the most unprofessional responses from her about them. Yesterday was 'I love you, lol.' You'd think these retards would learn not to gently caress their selfs at every turn.


I hate when people do this. One of our contract managers messages me with some bullshit saying "why was xxxxx purchase order expedited when the next order isn't due until April 2011", CC's their boss, who emails me asking about the same poo poo and talking about how much money these expedites cost the company, etc etc etc. This purchase order was written up like 7 weeks ago, so I dig through all the paper records looking for it, and it ends up I didn't even expedite it! The drat order was highlighted because it was hosed up the first time it was sent out, and it needed to be reworked.

Christ, if I gently caress something up (and it does happen) I'm the first person to admit it but if you bitch at me for something I either had nothing to do with or didn't mess up in the first place I'm going to ream your rear end out for it.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

less faggotry, more rs4.

bobua posted:

Pissing me off today: People who can't wipe their rear end without cc'ing the boss.

Crowd control came into my head before carbon copy... oh dear

Then again, rooting, freezing, sapping, or otherwise incapacitating your boss is probably a better scenario

bobua
Mar 23, 2003
I'd trade it all for just a little more.

Well, I said it pisses me off, I really like it I guess...

I wonder if I can setup a transport rule in exchange to tip me off when someone sends me something but bcc's someone else instead of cc'ing...

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003


quote:

CC stuff

The last time I got CC'd and my old boss called out for something and CC'd up to the division VP, I replied-all and in the nicest business way possible, called him a loving idiot.

He then replied to me without everyone and said "I think that this wasn't a reasonable response". I then pulled all of the names off of his initial Email and said back to him "I feel that it was an entirely appropriate email. If you have a problem, please let me know with what part and I'll apologize and reword it to your liking."

He never tried to CC the world on me, again. He also started calling me a whole lot instead of emailing. So I'd go "Okay, let me email that to you...." everytime he'd ask for something.


I love email.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

bobua posted:

Well, I said it pisses me off, I really like it I guess...

I wonder if I can setup a transport rule in exchange to tip me off when someone sends me something but bcc's someone else instead of cc'ing...

bofhbestpractices.txt

Lovie Unsmith
Mar 19, 2005



I've been working this job a little over three years, and this is where I got introduced to Sonicwall. I've always said I never got the hate for them around here, but today they finally pissed me off. As far as we're concerned, they've changed the definition of failover.

All the old Tele3s and TZ170s we've deployed (about 80) have a primary WAN connected via Ethernet (usually DSL), and a built-in dialup modem for backup. When the WAN goes down, dialup automatically kicks in. The location continues business on dialup until the high speed gets fixed.

Well now we have a TZ210 and this one doesn't have a built in modem port. Instead it's got two USB ports in the front. What we'd like to do is use U0 as the primary WAN connection, via a USB 3G modem, and have it failover to U1 on a USB dialup modem. Unfortunately you can't expect U0 or U1 to connect automatically - they can't. They only work as failovers from Ethernet WAN connections.

Furthermore, the way failover works now is that both the primary and backup connections need to be 100% active at all times. Given that and the fact that you have to start anything on U0/U1 manually, this new Sonicwall is no good for us to deploy someplace without human intervention.

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

Steve Moore posted:

All the old Tele3s and TZ170s we've deployed (about 80) have a primary WAN connected via Ethernet (usually DSL), and a built-in dialup modem for backup. When the WAN goes down, dialup automatically kicks in. The location continues business on dialup until the high speed gets fixed.

It's probably not unique to Sonicwall, but their TZ180 series will not allow you to configure a default route that is not the conveniently pre-determined WAN port. This is problematic when it's (for inscrutable wasn't-me network design reasons) the edge firewall responsible for connecting a wireless access point to the LAN, rather than the edge firewall responsible for connecting the LAN to the outside world. It doesn't even have anything plugged into the WAN interface, but it still forces an undeleteable, unchangeable default route shoving traffic to that interface and promptly discarding it because it's down/down.

For the longest time before I taught myself networking nobody could figure out why wireless clients at that location were unable to access Internet resources. Welp.

Fortunately it's not too hard to work around something like that since more-specific routes take precedence and a route for half of the Internet is technically more specific than a route for all of it, but man, that decision is annoying and substantially unfriendly to non-networking people.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The Screw Whisperer (TM)


This poo poo

http://torrentfreak.com/us-isp-disc...-months-100924/

yaoi prophet
Apr 9, 2007

"keep twisting junior all you get is clicks." - Barack HUSSEIN Obama, 2012



I like how they're pretending that they have to disconnect people when that's clearly bullshit.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The Screw Whisperer (TM)


yaoi prophet posted:

I like how they're pretending that they have to disconnect people when that's clearly bullshit.

I just smell a class action lawsuit waiting to happen

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

It was not scary. It was just...abnormal.


Bob Morales posted:

I got a work order that said "Can you find me a nice pumpkin screen saver" before. This woman had 3 college degrees.

Windows Standard (Large) for life

This is the best thing I've ever heard. I think the fact that she qualified it as a "nice" screensaver is what seals it, what a lovely person.

Milotic
Mar 4, 2009

9CL apologist

HalloKitty posted:

Crowd control came into my head before carbon copy... oh dear

Then again, rooting, freezing, sapping, or otherwise incapacitating your boss is probably a better scenario

I'd rather fear them myself. Although sometimes it's not worth the aggro.

poo poo that pisses me off: Being handed a statement of requirements doc that clearly calls for an extensible, one-size fits all, resilient system, routeing multiple files types stored in an externally hosted system to multiple internal systems, bi-directionally, dynamically, with secure auditing and in realtime. The sort of thing ESBs like BizTalk are for.

Busting my nuts off for a week investigating something that would meet those requirements and getting ready to do feasibility studies. And then on Friday afternoon being handed a one-pager by CTO that lists their estimated build time at around 10 man-days, and them asking for something which does a nightly archive to just one system, no dynamic routing required. And when can they have the design by? Jesus.

Short version:I hate CTO.

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard

abigserve posted:

This is the best thing I've ever heard. I think the fact that she qualified it as a "nice" screensaver is what seals it, what a lovely person.

I bet by "screensaver" she meant "desktop background" though. Rather than that thing people used to use before DPMS for Johnny Castaway and Flying Toaster entertainment.

GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at Sep 26, 2010 around 01:21

Corvettefisher
Sep 8, 2007



Client: yeah Windows 7 isn't finding C why is this
-Me: ask general questions-
Me: okay what i need you to do is put in the windows 7 disk and click "REPAIR MY COMPUTER"
Client: well why didn't you just say that first
-fast forward 2 hours-
client: yeah all my items are gone where'd they go?
Me: hmm it should be there you didn't hit re install did you?
Client: of course not I am not stupid
Me: open event view only 3 hours of logs, one of which windows install initialized
client: so can you get my files back?
me:

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

"I never killed a man in my whole life!"

Corvettefisher posted:

Client: yeah Windows 7 isn't finding C why is this
-Me: ask general questions-
Me: okay what i need you to do is put in the windows 7 disk and click "REPAIR MY COMPUTER"
Client: well why didn't you just say that first
-fast forward 2 hours-
client: yeah all my items are gone where'd they go?
Me: hmm it should be there you didn't hit re install did you?
Client: of course not I am not stupid
Me: open event view only 3 hours of logs, one of which windows install initialized
client: so can you get my files back?
me:

If they didn't reformat, shouldn't a windows.old folder with everything that was on their c drive in it be there.

Sonic Dude
May 6, 2009


bobua posted:

Pissing me off today: People who can't wipe their rear end without cc'ing the boss.
Closely related: Bosses who absolutely cannot handle being treated as a human being in front of their employees.

If you decide, for some reason, to cc your own employee on the "my password doesn't work" email, don't get mad when I reply all and say "try the username without '@yourhomeemaildomain.com' at the end." If you didn't want them to know the innocuous solution to your equally-simple problem, then either don't cc him, or just loving tell me that you don't want him to know. I assume if you want him to know the problem, you want him to know the answer.

I'd understand not wanting your employee to see an email that says "here's your password in cleartext" or calling you out on a major mistake, but when it's the answer to the question that you already told him about?

Sonic Dude fucked around with this message at Sep 27, 2010 around 04:53

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

We're giving you a hint.


SHSC - You suck at email and I wish you'd drop dead

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The Screw Whisperer (TM)


Apple

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/...r-Pod-Trademark

Apple has gone from being a company that had a lot of good things going for it, supported its End Users and provided an excellent product.

They still provide excellent products, but they are turning more and more into their competition.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

We're giving you a hint.


CommieGIR posted:

Apple

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/...r-Pod-Trademark

Apple has gone from being a company that had a lot of good things going for it, supported its End Users and provided an excellent product.

They still provide excellent products, but they are turning more and more into their competition.

: Whelp. We've got "i". We're going for "Pod". Next we're going for every letter any of our products ever had. The alphabet? Yeah. We own that.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The Screw Whisperer (TM)


Maker Of Shoes posted:

: Whelp. We've got "i". We're going for "Pod". Next we're going for every letter any of our products ever had. The alphabet? Yeah. We own that.

Hey hey, we copyrighted Pod, get out of the Escape.....pod.....thingy

frogbert
Jun 2, 2007


Bob Morales posted:

Documents and Settings\user name\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\whatever.nk2

It's not perfect, they can get corrupted or something. We changed domains and one woman's computer didn't like the change, and is getting all kinds of errors when sending, recipient not found, to someone down the hall that she emails a million times a day. Tried to delete that auto-complete or whatever it's called and re-add it, but she claims she's still getting the error intermittently.

I told her we can delete the file and start over from scratch...

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/outlook_nk2_edit.html

I'm pretty sure there is another app out there that searches through your sent email directory and adds each email address to a new nk2 file.

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

Sonic Dude posted:


We have one location whose managers seem to expect "yes sir right away sir" which just isn't how it works here, so consequently they get pissy at the slightest perceived lack of respect and C.C. in everyone trying to make you look like the worst human since that one guy who started the 2nd world war.

Initially I let it get to me but after the first few times I realised management here has our backs and thinks they're just as idiotic as we do, which means I can now call them out on it using polite corporate-speak as much as I like. It's great to turn thier own bullshit back on them, it's like some sort of Jedi mindtrick. There's one in particular who even now just doesn't get it and will just get more and more wound up. We have office competitions with this guy, it's great.

How do these people not realise how insecure it makes them look? Is the small amount of respect from being an upper-middle manager all they have?

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003


SpeechMagic aka. Speech-to-Text

By law we have a deadline for Oct. 1st for getting live texting into any and all broadcasts. I'm the schmuck who got the short end of the stick and get to oversee it's implementation nationwide, and only in the last week have I been able to kick up enough dirt to get people actually testing the system. I now have four days to fix all errors and get people up and running with the aid of my fellow (desperate) syadmins around the country. We're getting to the point where the regional CEOs are starting to shake trees and bang on their chests to get things done faster. Great!

The best part is, that I'm far too used to this kind of poo poo from my old job to even care about the deadline. Sure we might break a law or two, but I have my back covered and the support of my own boss.

I suspect this will be my daily poo poo for quite a while yet.

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard

CommieGIR posted:

Apple

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/...r-Pod-Trademark

Apple has gone from being a company that had a lot of good things going for it, supported its End Users and provided an excellent product.

They still provide excellent products, but they are turning more and more into their competition.



I know. They're getting pretty evil these days (enough to make Microsoft look like saints at times). Their customer service has also plummeted from "awesome, no other company is as good" to "one of those that practically says 'gently caress you, we have your money, gently caress off' to your face" over the past 5 or so years. They have such a poo poo attitude towards their customers at the moment, especially when Jobs starts firing off his trademark emails.

It's a shame. I switched to Macs a few years ago when they were a good company that provided absolute top standards of service, made you feel valued as a customer, thought out their hardware to the nth degree (none of this "oh we didn't think you'd actually hold the phone") and the "Apple Tax" could (to me) be justified by all that. Nowadays they're just riding on the success of their brand name and not bothering to make this kind of effort, somehow thinking it makes them invulnerable. Sadly if they keep it up much longer it'll eventually affect me directly and it'll probably be at that moment that I switch back to PCs, and no doubt several other previous "switchers" won't be far behind.

At the moment the OS is nice enough and hassle free enough and I have enough useful apps on the OS X platform to just about tolerate their attitude (same sort of story with the iPhone), but with the advent of Windows 7 or even the strides Linux has been taking recently I have to admit it's running very thin. It'll probably take one incident now (admittedly only something that affects me, unless they start killing puppies or something) to make me say "enough is enough" next upgrade.

Edit: Wow you got me ranting well there. It's been bugging me as of late.
It's been at its worst since Jobs came back from his illness - I think it's given him a god complex (even more so than before) or something.

GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at Sep 27, 2010 around 12:38

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003


LakesGuzzler posted:

Apple-bad

Apple realized the costs of "Awesome" support, just like every other company that starts out with "Awesome" support does.

I've always treated Apple like every other brand: They have a few good products, and you get to support it yourself unless it's a warranty item.

For what it's worth, I've seen several of the other newer phones have attenuation issues with certain hand positions. In fact, Anandtech is starting to incorporate it into their phone reviews (And the iPhone 4 is the worst from their tests because an electrical current is generated a quarter inch from the transciever by the skin's contact while the other phones are plastic )

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

HYPER-THREADING


LakesGuzzler posted:



You act like Apple was an at some point in the past.

As far as the customer support goes, they're great. Dell and Microsoft would kill to have 'Genius Bars' or even stores all across the country. My boss wanted to 'Call iPod' because he didn't backup his music and destroyed his laptop. He didn't realize you could just go on their website and request someone to call you, which resulted in a short conversation and then an email soon thereafter with instructions to re-download all of his purchased music.

Not to mention, if you read the Mac hardware threads, you'll get all kinds of reports of people getting things fixed for free and how great the service is.

Windows and Linux are getting much better than they were, but they're still Windows and Linux. Apple is gaining a lot of ground in the computer market. They'll never take it over since they can't compete at the pricepoints required, but it will continue to grow.

Right now they have:

The best phone (the network on the other hand...)
The best MP3 player
The best laptop(s)
Basically the only tablet or whatever the gently caress you want to call the iPad
The best OS (even if it's lacking applications)
The best all-in-one

But they aren't suddenly evil. This is the same Steve Jobs and same Apple Computer who 'stole everything from Xerox PARC', dropped the entire Apple II market (including customers and employees), allowed other companies to make clones then stripped that away a few years later, sued Microsoft, hosed users over on countless hardware decisions throughout the years...

sanchez
Feb 26, 2003


Bob Morales posted:


The best phone (the network on the other hand...)
The best MP3 player
The best laptop(s)
Basically the only tablet or whatever the gently caress you want to call the iPad
The best OS (even if it's lacking applications)
The best all-in-one

EDIT: Nevermind, this thread is too good to poo poo up.

sanchez fucked around with this message at Sep 27, 2010 around 13:30

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

Bob Morales posted:


The best phone (the network on the other hand...)
The best MP3 player
The best laptop(s)
Basically the only tablet or whatever the gently caress you want to call the iPad
The best OS (even if it's lacking applications)
The best all-in-one

I hope you aren't being serious.

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003


Can we please not get into a religious debate about phones, operating systems, MP3-players, tablets, anything at all?

Please?
Pretty please?
I'll loving slash your tires if we do.

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

Agree, there is an entire poo poo-subforum with retarded poo poo posters dedicated to that discussion.

enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

Crowley posted:

Can we please not get into a religious debate about phones, operating systems, MP3-players, tablets, anything at all?

Please?
Pretty please?
I'll loving slash your tires if we do.

No, I'm sorry the best portable music player is my sony sports walkman. . . Lets see an iPod survive bicycling in heavy rain without a protective case!

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003


Bob Morales posted:

The best phone (the network on the other hand...)

The AT&T network I've never had trouble with outside of California, and I've been all over the US.

I've had far more service problems with my Verizon smartphone from Work than with AT&T or my iPhone.

Oh, what's that, Verizon? I suddenly can't tether, or use any kind of data, and my normal emails are now being charged at $2 per megabyte? Why THAT IS FANTASTIC. I love having to call Cellbert and explain to him that Verizon's doing it, again. And, from what he says, it's quite common for our pooled plan to randomly lose a number to it's own personal account for no apparent reason.

And what about that horrible Verizon-OS modification that they put on every phone? I love having Bluetooth file transfers disabled for everything but the priciest phones on the market because I couldn't possibly want to transfer the pictures I took with that phone anywhere without paying Verizon a data package to email them to myself.

[/rant]

Crowley posted:

Can we please not get into a religious debate about phones, operating systems, MP3-players, tablets, anything at all?

Please?
Pretty please?
I'll loving slash your tires if we do.

Don't slash my tires. You didn't say anything about cellphone networks.

Arsten fucked around with this message at Sep 27, 2010 around 13:38

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greatapoc
Apr 4, 2005


poo poo that's pissing me off starting yesterday and foreseeable for some time...

I work for a TV station in Australia and we've just launched a new channel. For one thing, the audio got changed from AC3 to MPEG2 which means nearly every STB and TV will need a rescan to pick it up. I've been getting millions of calls from people that are completely incapable of doing this and will not listen to any kind of instruction from me on how to do it.

Secondly, the programming is aimed at women over 35 (this is a line from the powers that be). It has completely replaced the existing HD simulcast channel which means there is no sport or news in HD anymore. People are absolutely furious about this and with good cause. On Saturday they're watching the news in HD and on the next day they're getting Gone With The Wind. Right in the middle of football finals too. What's even more bizarre is that more than 90% of the content isn't even HD to begin with...

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