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Lemons
Jul 18, 2003



Midelne posted:

It's not just computer stuff. I bought a blender not too long ago that looked nice and normal and actually has a bright blue light on the front over the power switch to let me know that the blender is off.

I submit for your consideration the proposition that if someone cannot tell whether a high-powered home blender is running or not without an indicator light, they ought not be using said blender.

Yeah, I bought a fan (like a big one, to blow air around when it's hot) a while ago that has ultrabright blue/red/green/white LEDs that blink in a seemingly random pattern when the fan is on. I'd like to meet the clown that thought it would be a good idea to not only put LEDs on a fan, but to make those LEDs dance around while the fan is on a loving sleep timer. It was so bright and flashing that I couldn't sleep. I opened that sucker up and put electrical tape all over the LEDs.

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Fishstick
Jul 9, 2005

Does not require preheating

Sniep posted:



motherboards got ground effects

*( I actually own the SLI version of this board- it was a gift so i'm not complaining )

At least it's passive red and not eyerape blue.

Lovie Unsmith
Mar 19, 2005



Probably already mentioned, but since I ran into it today I'll bring it up:

Manufacturer's wireless config software.

Can't remember whose software I was trying to figure out today, but once I turned it off and used the Windows config, all was well.

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

And I have had my final fatty blunt, and it was good.


sm8000 posted:

Probably already mentioned, but since I ran into it today I'll bring it up:

Manufacturer's wireless config software.

Can't remember whose software I was trying to figure out today, but once I turned it off and used the Windows config, all was well.

Agreed. Don't try to fix what isn't broken with retarded, non-UI-standard, proprietary crap.

Especially when zeroconf actually kicks rear end.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


Sniep posted:

Agreed. Don't try to fix what isn't broken with retarded, non-UI-standard, proprietary crap.

Especially when zeroconf actually kicks rear end.

Except the god damned scanning every 5 minutes even with a connection poo poo. That gets on my nerves.

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

And I have had my final fatty blunt, and it was good.


Casao posted:

Except the god damned scanning every 5 minutes even with a connection poo poo. That gets on my nerves.

You know - the only time that's ever happened to me was when the connection was really weak... With a solid link it just stayed quiet and out of the way. Though I have heard gripes about that.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


Sniep posted:

You know - the only time that's ever happened to me was when the connection was really weak... With a solid link it just stayed quiet and out of the way. Though I have heard gripes about that.

I've noticed it when I'm playing an online game via wifi, or streaming something over my network. It doesn't disconnect, but it stutters enough to be annoying.

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

And I have had my final fatty blunt, and it was good.


Casao posted:

I've noticed it when I'm playing an online game via wifi, or streaming something over my network. It doesn't disconnect, but it stutters enough to be annoying.

Perhaps - I've only ever used wifi as a "IM and surf the web on the couch" connection - for gaming or video serving I've always used hard wire links. I guess I just never expected wifi to be good at those applications in the first place.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



The reason you have the manufacturers own wireless poo poo is because ZeroConf was only added in XP SP2 and there's plenty of people out there still running Win2K or XP SP0/SP1.

Yes you can argue that they shouldn't, but as a manufacturer, you dont want to get a bunch of returns from people who can't get your card working as they're too dumb to install the service pack


As for blue LEDs, when I had to sleep in a room with all that crap in it, I'd just put old socks that I no-longer wore over the offending devices.

FallenGod
May 23, 2002

Unite, Afro Warriors!

Casao posted:

I've noticed it when I'm playing an online game via wifi, or streaming something over my network. It doesn't disconnect, but it stutters enough to be annoying.

I eventually purchased a Buffalo router and set it up as a wireless bridge because I could not get Vista to stop doing that (my one and only Vista peeve).

Gaming is serious business

uncleTomOfFinland
May 25, 2008



Lum posted:

Yes you can argue that they shouldn't, but as a manufacturer, you dont want to get a bunch of returns from people who can't get your card working as they're too dumb to install the service pack

I suppose they could do a small favour for the humanity and include SP2 or 3 on the driver CD and make it install by default assuming its legally possible.

DjLizard
Aug 8, 2005

What wozatar?


Pavol Paska posted:

I suppose they could do a small favour for the humanity and include SP2 or 3 on the driver CD and make it install by default assuming its legally possible.
It's against the EULA

Also, a lot of (annoying) people would poo poo a brick.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Excellent. The Arkham Asylum
shower cam is operational.

Lum posted:

The reason you have the manufacturers own wireless poo poo is because ZeroConf was only added in XP SP2 and there's plenty of people out there still running Win2K or XP SP0/SP1.

Yes you can argue that they shouldn't, but as a manufacturer, you dont want to get a bunch of returns from people who can't get your card working as they're too dumb to install the service pack

I'd think they'd be smart enough to detect what version the OS when installing and not overriding SP2's stuff.

Smoke
Mar 11, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Everybody posted:

LEDs

I taped up a USB Bluetooth stick because the bright white LED on it kept blinking even when my computer was turned off. Especially annoying when you try to sleep and there's a white flash on the ceiling every 30 seconds or so. I also modified an external HD to swap the two status LEDs inside(Bright blue when turned on, red LED blinked during IDE access combining the colors to even brighter purple) All I had to do for that was hook the LEDs up the other way around though, so now it's a nice soft red when on. Still has the purple during access, but it's a lot less annoying.

Also, my Wii's managed to wake me up a few times because people and Nintendo decided the best time to send me messages on it was at 2AM or something(I know, I could just turn it off completely)

What bugs me the most is that Bluetooth devices tend to go for eye-burning blue as their default LED color. My headset's LED glows bright blue when it's charging, and blinks when it's powered on(I've actually noticed it blinking when I was driving in the dark with the headset on) And both my work and personal phone indicate Bluetooth status with a bright blinking LED.

I am not a fan of blue lights . Although I don't mind my Macbook's pulsing white sleepmode LED, it's kinda relaxing in a way, like it's breathing.

ProjektorBoy
Jun 18, 2002

I FUCK LINEN IN MY SPARE TIME!

Lum posted:

The reason you have the manufacturers own wireless poo poo is because ZeroConf was only added in XP SP2 and there's plenty of people out there still running Win2K or XP SP0/SP1.

Wireless Zero Configuration has been a service and a feature since the very inception of WindowsXP. As the support technician of a wireless router at one point in my life I can't tell you how many XP machines of various service packs I've serviced. XP-SP0/SP1 wireless, however, was MASSIVELY lovely. XPSP2 was finally when MS got their poo poo together on XP for wireless.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


Smoke posted:

I taped up a USB Bluetooth stick because the bright white LED on it kept blinking even when my computer was turned off. Especially annoying when you try to sleep and there's a white flash on the ceiling every 30 seconds or so. I also modified an external HD to swap the two status LEDs inside(Bright blue when turned on, red LED blinked during IDE access combining the colors to even brighter purple) All I had to do for that was hook the LEDs up the other way around though, so now it's a nice soft red when on. Still has the purple during access, but it's a lot less annoying.

Also, my Wii's managed to wake me up a few times because people and Nintendo decided the best time to send me messages on it was at 2AM or something(I know, I could just turn it off completely)

What bugs me the most is that Bluetooth devices tend to go for eye-burning blue as their default LED color. My headset's LED glows bright blue when it's charging, and blinks when it's powered on(I've actually noticed it blinking when I was driving in the dark with the headset on) And both my work and personal phone indicate Bluetooth status with a bright blinking LED.

I am not a fan of blue lights . Although I don't mind my Macbook's pulsing white sleepmode LED, it's kinda relaxing in a way, like it's breathing.

You want sleep disturbingly bright?

Microsoft Starck mouse. I absolutely love the thing, but I have to unplug it every night because it's drat near bright enough to read by.

nail
Jul 15, 2005



duz posted:

I'd think they'd be smart enough to detect what version the OS when installing and not overriding SP2's stuff.
hahaha, you think hardware vendors give a poo poo

madprocess
Sep 23, 2004

by Ozmaugh


I really find the Intel PROSet/Wireless software on my laptop to handle all the wifi stuff much better than the plain XP stuff. I suppose its a YMMV thing.

What I really hate is when I try to find reviews for software/hardware, and I get a ton of rants about how X device released in 2006 doesn't support Windows 2000 so it must be a terrible thing.

Pound_Coin
Feb 5, 2004
£



Lum posted:

and there's plenty of people out there still running Win2K or XP SP0/SP1.


all these people need to die

brc64
Mar 21, 2008

I wear my sunglasses at night.

Fishstick posted:

At least it's passive red and not eyerape blue.
It reminds of old scifi movies (Alien comes to mind) where the computer displays are SO BRIGHT that they actually project onto your face. Blue LED's do the same thing. Even in a well lit room.

The Human Cow
May 24, 2004

hurry up

I bought a stupid amplifying antenna last night (Philips ANT410) to try to pull in OTA HDTV in my bedroom, and when I flicked it on the LED caught me by surprise and almost made me trip over the stuff on the floor behind me. I put some masking tape on it so it's only at a dull roar now, but it's ridiculous to think that anybody would want a bright blue Eye of Sauron projected onto their ceiling like that.

<deleted user>


Rock Tumbler posted:

Not on these forums

http://eric.frap.net/mp3/dental%20plan.wav

That does suck, I opened a ticket for it. Obviously the parser should not see literal spaces, but it should recognize encoded characters such as %20.

Please report things like this in QCS or email devs@somethingawful.com. If I don't know about it, I can't fix it!

my stepdads beer posted:

The braindead coding of timg tags on these forums. There's nothing worse than when I'm happily reading something and suddenly the whole page jumps around because all of the image resizing happens right at the very end of a page load.

It's not really a [TIMG] thing. The only way to really fix the jumping around problems would be to know the pixel height of every image on the page. That's difficult when images may be hosted off-site, since the image could be changed and because of the overhead of having to check dimensions of every single remotely-hosted image posted. I'll think about it some more... it's at least partly feasible with the new parser.

Feel free to make a thread in QCS about it if anyone wants to discuss it more.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



ProjektorBoy posted:

Wireless Zero Configuration has been a service and a feature since the very inception of WindowsXP. As the support technician of a wireless router at one point in my life I can't tell you how many XP machines of various service packs I've serviced. XP-SP0/SP1 wireless, however, was MASSIVELY lovely. XPSP2 was finally when MS got their poo poo together on XP for wireless.

Ok, I stand corrected, however would you agree that prior to XP SP2, there was a need for the 3rd party wireless config utilities?

As for the TIMG thing, is it possible in HTML to specify the height but not the width, since these images are of a known height after all. That would reduce the jumping around a bit if it worked, since TIMGs always start out really massive for some reason.

Antigen v2.0
May 16, 2004


Sniep posted:

Perhaps - I've only ever used wifi as a "IM and surf the web on the couch" connection - for gaming or video serving I've always used hard wire links. I guess I just never expected wifi to be good at those applications in the first place.

It can be. I have an Asus p5k deluxe which came with an onboard WiFi card that is the best I've ever used, by far. In conjunction with my dd-wrt router, I get great ping in games and p2p has never been a problem. On one Counterstrike server I had 5ms ping over wireless, which I thought was pretty incredible.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Excellent. The Arkham Asylum
shower cam is operational.

hyperborean posted:

hahaha, you think hardware vendors give a poo poo

That's why I said smart enough and not care enough. I know they don't care.

Jerk McJerkface
Jan 16, 2004

I think the government should socialize cell phones.They'd have a matrix of your income, social position, and job type, and then assign you a cell phone that is appropriate.


Midelne posted:

Maybe. I'd look it up in the user's manual, but it's hard to find the correct location since it's the same color and brightness as everything else. Perhaps something could be done about that.

I set up an Aastra SIP DECT system at a client the other day. The base stations have six LEDs. One to indicate power, one to indicate IP connectivity, one to indicate phone service connectivity, one to indicate handset connectivity. The other two are unused. It even says so in the manual.

It's awesome.

Boogeyman
Sep 29, 2004

Boo, motherfucker.

The Gunslinger posted:

LEDs on every loving thing conceivable. My new microwave has a status LED for the power, why? My case emits a bright blue LED when its in sleep mode that blinks on and off. I've seen headphones with LEDs on the outer part of the cups now. My new modem has 6 LEDs and I swear I don't know what two of them mean and neither does the manual for the thing. Power, Ethernet, DSL and IP connectivity, I can't even begin to fathom what it needs the other two for and they aren't even labeled.

I really feel bad for people in bachelor apartments or dorm rooms, I don't even know how I'd get to sleep with that loving fireworks going on in my room.

I just bought an Element 32" LCD TV a few months ago to replace my old Toshiba 27" TV that took a poo poo on me. It's a great TV, but some buttfucking idiot designer decided that it would be a good idea to have a two color LED to indicate power status. If it's blue, the TV is on. If it's red, the TV is off. Not only is it red when the TV is off, but it's loving bright enough to create a 1' diameter red spot on the opposite wall, which is about 10' away from the TV.

Hey, genius designers out there...power status lights should be ON when the equipment is on, and OFF when the equipment is off. I don't need a loving glowing red terminator eye to tell me when my TV is off, I can figure that out by the fact that it's not loving on.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007



hyperborean posted:

hahaha, you think hardware vendors give a poo poo

And yet so many of them still bother to supply drivers for DOS and W3.11.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.


People who decide suddenly to rearrange equipment in their office, then call me all pissed off because their computer no longer has internet access, and the spot they've chosen is 40 feet from the nearest ethernet drop.

TokenBrit
May 7, 2007
Irony isn't something that's like metal.

Boogeyman posted:

Hey, genius designers out there...power status lights should be ON when the equipment is on, and OFF when the equipment is off. I don't need a loving glowing red terminator eye to tell me when my TV is off, I can figure that out by the fact that it's not loving on.

It's not off though, it's in suspend. There's a difference.

Jerk McJerkface
Jan 16, 2004

I think the government should socialize cell phones.They'd have a matrix of your income, social position, and job type, and then assign you a cell phone that is appropriate.


TokenBrit posted:

It's not off though, it's in suspend. There's a difference.

Another pet peeve. Why exactly do we need everything to suspend? It's not like my DVD player takes a half hour to spool up before I can watch a movie.

I think that electronics companies are secretly engaged in some kind of LED war.

TokenBrit
May 7, 2007
Irony isn't something that's like metal.

Ericcorp posted:

Another pet peeve. Why exactly do we need everything to suspend? It's not like my DVD player takes a half hour to spool up before I can watch a movie.

I think that electronics companies are secretly engaged in some kind of LED war.

People are too lazy to walk all the way over to the other side of the room and turn the television on.

Weedle
May 31, 2006

by Peatpot


TokenBrit posted:

People are too lazy to walk all the way over to the other side of the room and turn the television on.

That's what they make remote controls for

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

Every device with lots of bright, blinking lights should come with an on-board MP3 player that plays "Le Disko".

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005


People who think they're hot poo poo on a silver platter because they have the most rudimentary job in IT.

I have an internship working with our school's IBM mainframe (which is enough as it is), and for the past six weeks I've been hanging out with the operators. Apparently popping tapes in the drive and separating form feed paper for 30 years gives you magical IT powers, because these bastards think they know everything. Need some JCL/COBOL edited? Don't bother the programmers, let the operators do it! Need some new software installed on the mainframe? The operators have watched the sysadmin do it a hundred times, leave it to them! A job abended? Your friendly neighborhood operator would be glad to go through and fix it for you!

What, it's not the job of an operator? Well, they've been working here for 30 some odd years and they know what they're doing they've got a+ certifications

Edit: Your TV has a boot screen? drat, and I thought our "one full second to flip between two channels" cable box was bad.

A Pinball Wizard fucked around with this message at Jun 24, 2008 around 19:25

Boogeyman
Sep 29, 2004

Boo, motherfucker.

TokenBrit posted:

It's not off though, it's in suspend. There's a difference.

That's loving retarded. There isn't a difference between suspend and off, it does the same poo poo when I turn it on. Same stupid "boot" screen with the Element Electronics logo, same waiting for it to actually tune a channel. There's no difference whatsoever. Also, it doesn't matter whether or not you use the power button on the TV or on the remote...same goddamn red light either way.

Even if "suspend" meant "push the on button and immediately watch TV" instead of what it does now, it still doesn't justify putting a loving 100W red LED on the front to let me know that it's in suspend mode.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


Boogeyman posted:

That's loving retarded. There isn't a difference between suspend and off, it does the same poo poo when I turn it on. Same stupid "boot" screen with the Element Electronics logo, same waiting for it to actually tune a channel. There's no difference whatsoever. Also, it doesn't matter whether or not you use the power button on the TV or on the remote...same goddamn red light either way.

Even if "suspend" meant "push the on button and immediately watch TV" instead of what it does now, it still doesn't justify putting a loving 100W red LED on the front to let me know that it's in suspend mode.

I think a lot of you have loving sensitive retina or some poo poo if you're bothered by a single red LED. You sound like the kind of people who can't use digital alarm clocks because they're too bright.

TokenBrit
May 7, 2007
Irony isn't something that's like metal.

Rock Tumbler posted:

That's what they make remote controls for

Suspend = press the remote control, TV comes on.
Off = This device is not plugged in/hard power switch is off. The remote will not help.
On = You're watching TV.

The manufacturer (not saying this is right or wrong, this is an observation) demonstrates the 3 states with 3 states on the LED. Off, red and green.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

Casao posted:

I think a lot of you have loving sensitive retina or some poo poo if you're bothered by a single red LED. You sound like the kind of people who can't use digital alarm clocks because they're too bright.

It's not so bad in the daytime, but at night, all these devices make your room look like a disco or a mid-90's FPS.

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nail
Jul 15, 2005



Casao posted:

I think a lot of you have loving sensitive retina or some poo poo if you're bothered by a single red LED. You sound like the kind of people who can't use digital alarm clocks because they're too bright.
While the guy who almost tripped over a bunch of poo poo because the LED scared him so much made me spit soda on my keyboard, goon sir, fives, some of these things really are obnoxiously, insanely bright, like making a

quote:

1' diameter red spot on the opposite wall, which is about 10' away
My roommate just got a new audio mixer and it has a blue LED which actually hurt my eyes to look at directly. I have plenty of things with LEDs and this one in particular really is too much, on older devices they are not.

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