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enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

angrytech posted:

Have you considered creating some sort of hostage system and throwing the computers out the window?

Nah, these days I waltz in at 7:30 to 8, eat quickly at my desk, and as soon as 4 hits, it doesn't matter if I'm the middle of fixing something. . . I walk out.

If they ask me to stay late, I show up at 10-11 the next day, or leave at noon. . .

Then I bicycle around, and say "I got some good end users that are good adn friendly albeit stupid. . . but beer will make me forget the bad ones"

Sometimes things make the job worth working, like this old fellow that works with us asked me if he could bug me with a not work related question. He's a fun guy to bullshit with. He said

"My sister loaned me a CD that I ripped to my computer in there with that windows media player thing. . . I have a usb port in my car that is supposed to be connected to the stereo, if I copy those to a usb stick will they play"
"well sir, if it's mp3 or wma. . . you got about a 99% chance"

He came back to my office 30 minutes later dancing happy and was like "I just copied em over, plugged it in, and hit usb on the player and it started playing. . . if we had this poo poo when I was a youngin"

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enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

Corvettefisher posted:

Please tell me she got a writeup

No, you literally don't get a writeup unless you walk in and poo poo on your supervisors desk. There is a woman in our office that has an office that makes oscar the grouches pad look tidy.

She had so much poo poo around her computer, and dustiness that her computer literally started a small fire.

She is still working with us with no penalties.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

enotnert posted:

No, you literally don't get a writeup unless you walk in and poo poo on your supervisors desk.

And I bet the first time it's a verbal warning too--multiple dumps required for any real repercussions.

Bobnumerotres
Jun 20, 2010


stubblyhead posted:

And I bet the first time it's a verbal warning too--multiple dumps required for any real repercussions.

The worst part is that anywhere, if you don't perform your job, your job is constantly threatened.

ESPECIALLY if you're the best person on your team, they will put all the pressure on you and leave the workers that do nothing alone, because they can't be fired unless they, you know, come in and take multiple shits on desks.

I've worked with people that lost their poo poo on their managers in front of everyone, telling them things like "Just chill I'll do task X when I feel like it" and the manager just sighing. loving brats.

Guesticles
Dec 21, 2009

I AM CURRENTLY JACKING OFF TO PICTURES OF MUTILATED FEMALE CORPSES, IT'S ALL VERY DEEP AND SOPHISTICATED BUT IT'S JUST TOO FUCKING HIGHBROW FOR YOU NON-MISOGYNISTS TO UNDERSTAND

P.S. STILL COMPLETELY DEVOID OF MERIT


Pissing me off today, wasting time getting quotes for things no one will approve, and then end up going with the cheap/free option they were recommended.

We're located at a satellite location from the main offices/datacenter. The WAN link goes down briefly during the night, and someone loses a file. So now they want to know how to prevent this. The part that pisses me off is I will tell them all the possible ways things could be fixed. I'll warn them that either moving everyone to virtualized desktop in main datacenter, or creating their own private network, will be expensive and come with its own brand of headaches, so it'd be a better idea to tell people save more often and deal with the occasional file that gets lost 3-4 times a year. They will tell me to look into these solutions anyway, then I will give them the price tag, and they'll say no thanks, we'll go with telling people to save more often.

enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

stubblyhead posted:

And I bet the first time it's a verbal warning too--multiple dumps required for any real repercussions.

I've probably mentioned this elsewhere but I've spent the past week telling people "no you cannot email documents with data like social security numbers on it unless it's encrypted, no I'm not going to install a random encryption app for you because this place has no standard they have all people use, and I'm not supporting an entire university of users using an app so you don't have to physically put this stuff in an envelope and mail it"

fun fact, someone in HR is in trouble due to me for reporting her for emailing me documents with my SSN clearly on them

spog
Aug 7, 2004

I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air.

Corvettefisher posted:

Please tell me she got a writeup

Why would she? It's obviously enotnert's fault.

I don't know why it is his fault, but she told me it was when he left the room and she should know, she's an expert on these things (she's been on a course, you know) and it's only a matter of time before the bosses realise this and get rid of him and promotes her.

Bitch Stewie
Dec 17, 2011


My colleague is a complete utter loving tool.

We have a form that is completed when people leave the company, it asks what should happen with their email and other bits and bobs.

A form comes back saying that someone's Outlook Calendar items should be copied to a shared location.

Him: "This form says to copy the Calendar items to a shared location"
Me: "So copy it to a shared location then"
Him: "But where should I copy it to?"
Me: "I don't know, where did the people that filled in the form ask for?"
Him: "It doesn't say"
Me: "So ask them"
Him: "They don't know"
Me:" "Well ask them if they want it copying to a Public Folder or just what exactly."

Five minutes later....

Him: "They want it in a Public Folder"
Me "Oh ok"
Him: "What should I call the folder?"
Me: "Erm... well did you ask them?"
Him "They don't know do they"
Me: "Well it's their data going into their folder in their departments Public Folder tree, you need to ask them"
Him "But they don't know"
Me: "So how am I supposed to know what the folder containing their data should be called?"
Him: "Well I don't know do I..."
Me: "So what, if I say "Call it Rhubarb" you'll do that and we're done?"
Him "Well they don't know what it should be called"
Me "Call it Rhubarb"

I really loving despair... and I daren't look to see if we now have a folder named Rhubarb in our Public Folders...

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Nurse?



Apparently Firefox has killed support for Win2K with version 12.

Guess how I know this? I can't leave this job soon enough.

edit: I don't see any mention of this on the Mozilla site ... I have to check personally before I take a user's word for it.

teethgrinder fucked around with this message at Apr 27, 2012 around 17:52

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007



teethgrinder posted:



Apparently Firefox has killed support for Win2K with version 12.

Guess how I know this? I can't leave this job soon enough.

What about 10 ESR?

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Nurse?

Ah thanks for reminding me. That'll have to do.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007



teethgrinder posted:



Apparently Firefox has killed support for Win2K with version 12.

Guess how I know this? I can't leave this job soon enough.

edit: I don't see any mention of this on the Mozilla site ... I have to check personally before I take a user's word for it.

When you say "killed support" do you means "will no longer run on 2000", or "2000-specific issues will no longer be fixed"?

Brut
Aug 21, 2007

Герой Советского Союза


Sweevo posted:

When you say "killed support" do you means "will no longer run on 2000", or "2000-specific issues will no longer be fixed"?

I'm pretty sure the latter has been the case since Firefox was created. Or at least I hope so.

hannibal
Jul 27, 2001

[img-planes]

teethgrinder posted:



Apparently Firefox has killed support for Win2K with version 12.

Guess how I know this? I can't leave this job soon enough.

edit: I don't see any mention of this on the Mozilla site ... I have to check personally before I take a user's word for it.

It's because they are upgrading the version of Visual Studio they use to do the builds.

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/...efox_win2k.html

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Nurse?

Ah thanks.

Totally logical and I'm surprised they maintained support as long as they did.

But really, this company needs to throw out the loving P3s.

Corvettefisher
Sep 8, 2007



This new company asked me if there was anything more they could offer me aside from
>Full schooling paid for
>Certs paid for
>Free training by onsite professionals
>Full health/dental/eye
>401k/retirement
>Access to Car
>Full travel Expenses

I am going to love this job

Bobnumerotres
Jun 20, 2010


Corvettefisher posted:

This new company asked me if there was anything more they could offer me aside from
>Full schooling paid for
>Certs paid for
>Free training by onsite professionals
>Full health/dental/eye
>401k/retirement
>Access to Car
>Full travel Expenses

I am going to love this job

So what's this company?

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.

Sounds like Blowjobs4OurEmployees.com because they've probably offered everything else.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Verizian posted:

Sounds like Blowjobs4OurEmployees.com because they've probably offered everything else.

I used to work there. The fine print though is that you don't have a choice about the blowjobs, and sometimes there's chafing.

Manslaughter
Apr 5, 2009


Ask if you can get your own intern.

Then...YOU can be the stupervisor.

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003


Corvettefisher posted:

This new company asked me if there was anything more they could offer me aside from
>Full schooling paid for
>Certs paid for
>Free training by onsite professionals
>Full health/dental/eye
>401k/retirement
>Access to Car
>Full travel Expenses

I am going to love this job

My wife was reading through my contract a few days ago just to see if I have May 1st off, and reminded me how nice I have it. (her too, but she's a spin doctor and makes $Nice)


>Full schooling paid for
N/A - Already paid for through taxes.

>Certs paid for
Yep, but only 1 week off-site schooling per year.

>Free training by onsite professionals
We're the only IT pros onsite, but if I want to learn about TV/movie making or broadcasting, sure.

>Full health/dental/eye
N/A - Already paid for through taxes.

>401k/retirement
Yes, Employer pays an additional 13% of my salary into a 401k, I pay another 3% for a total of 16%.

>Access to Car
Cars, vans, trucks, tractors, boats, canoes(!). All I have to do is book one in the reservation system and grab the keys.

>Full travel Expenses
Yes, with an extra $50/day to pay for food, or I pay my own way and get comped for the receipts when I get back.

Vacation:
I'm salaried, so all vacation is paid.
5 weeks mandatory vacation (set by law).
1 week of vacation as compensation for the occasional odd work schedule.
1 week of vacation as part of a special agreement about working on bank holidays.
Total: 7 weeks. I'm not complaining, but when I'm having trouble actually taking all that time off every year I'd actually rather sell the time back to the company for money.

Quitting or getting sacked:
Varies with how long I've been employed. I'm on my third year there, so my employer has to give me 5 months of notice, and I have to give them 3 months of notice.

Working hours:
We set our own hours, but have to stay under ~320 hours for a "schedule period" of two months. If we have more we have to schedule time off ASAP (accounting for co-workers, scheduled IT work, etc.)

Childbirth:
Full pay and benefits when on maternity or paternity leave. (The law grants 52 weeks of leave to be split between both parents. With both our kids we took two weeks off together right after childbirth, then my wife took six months and went back to work, and I took the rest)

Misc.:
Paid landline, cellphone, internet, TV.
Lunch counts as working hours.
There's a "nap room" with a couch and blankets in the basement. I'm free to use it on my breaks, but I never have.
By contract I'm entitled to borrow a non-electric travel-typewriter and a "VHS Video Recorder" for home or travel use.

Drawbacks:
Lunch counts as working hours. Which mean I can (and will) be called to emergencies while eating.
I can't do paid for anyone else while I'm employed there, not even flipping burgers at Mc Donald's on the weekend. I've had to get special exemptions from HR so I can train gym teams for 3-5 year olds, and censor exams at local colleges.

In conclusion I'm not complaining at all - especially not when I read what you USians have to put up with.

Crowley fucked around with this message at Apr 27, 2012 around 22:01

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009



Yes but you see we have freedom and are not evil communist muslim terrorists and therefore the free market will



Yeah the state of benefits and vacation time here is abysmal. My current benefits are (expensive) health/dental/vision insurance, reiumbursed internet connection (actually pretty sweet), and a smart phone (which is currently broken!) so I can be on call 24/7--a dubious "benefit". About 3 weeks off combined for vacation/sick/personal. That's all I can think of.

Edit: I did get reimbursed for travel the two times I've had to do it, but uh any employer that makes YOU pay for WORK travel is the worst of the worst so I don't count that; it's a baseline.

Edit x2: vvv haha I forgot bonuses. My annual bonus this year was literally a ticket to the local minor league hockey team. The company gets them for free because we advertise with them. I'm not asking for a fortune "in this economy hurr hurr" but that was straight-up insulting.

Docjowles fucked around with this message at Apr 27, 2012 around 23:19

Corvettefisher
Sep 8, 2007



Well only "draw back" is they want me to get the following certs
VCP5 - planned on it anyways so no biggy
VCP5-DT - looks cool mostly VDI oriented
VCAP-DCD or DCA - Oh boy what fun
CCNA - Eh I took some cisco classes plan to get it over the summer
monthly bonuses include 1-10k depending on how much client side work I do, they will pay for the classes and cert costs

Inspector_71
Oct 7, 2003

...essence

I forgot about this until today:

We're setting up a DinkyLink IR repeater that is supposed to send the data via a Cat-5 that the electrician had already run. We hook it up and my coworker is in the other room checking to see if the cable box is responding, and nothing. We check the connections and they're all perfect. I decide to trace the wire to make sure we've got both ends of the DinkyLink on the right cable and I find this:

http://i.imgur.com/PgpCQl.jpg



If you call yourself an electrician and think this is OK, you should be shot. It was jammed up into the insulation to keep it out of sight as well.

Wonder_Bread
Dec 21, 2006
Fresh Baked Goodness!

Inspector_71 posted:

I forgot about this until today:

We're setting up a DinkyLink IR repeater that is supposed to send the data via a Cat-5 that the electrician had already run. We hook it up and my coworker is in the other room checking to see if the cable box is responding, and nothing. We check the connections and they're all perfect. I decide to trace the wire to make sure we've got both ends of the DinkyLink on the right cable and I find this:

http://i.imgur.com/PgpCQl.jpg



If you call yourself an electrician and think this is OK, you should be shot. It was jammed up into the insulation to keep it out of sight as well.

I find most electricians don't know jack poo poo about running data cable.

Inspector_71
Oct 7, 2003

...essence

Wonder_Bread posted:

I find most electricians don't know jack poo poo about running data cable.

Yeah, they actually don't. We have one guy we call for pretty much everything unless the homeowner insists because he actually knows how to run a drat cable without stapling it in half.

Thel
Apr 28, 2010



Corvettefisher posted:

Well only "draw back" is they want me to get the following certs
VCP5 - planned on it anyways so no biggy
VCP5-DT - looks cool mostly VDI oriented
VCAP-DCD or DCA - Oh boy what fun
CCNA - Eh I took some cisco classes plan to get it over the summer
monthly bonuses include 1-10k depending on how much client side work I do, they will pay for the classes and cert costs

They're paying for you to become more employable, I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

When life gives you lemons DANCE DANCE DANCE!

Paid in part by CF


Thel posted:

They're paying for you to become more employable, I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth.
I had a recruiter, not the job itself mind you just the recruiter, warn me that a job I may interview for can't go above $60 an hour.

Sixty dollars an hour.

Oh, honey.

#shscproblems

e: I like contrasting those jobs with the ones that want an MCSE/CCNP for $39,000.

MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at Apr 28, 2012 around 00:04

Corvettefisher
Sep 8, 2007



Thel posted:

They're paying for you to become more employable, I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth.

Yeah no I am not complaining at all but it is alot of certs to get in 1 year, I feel fine about the VCP5 and CCNA it is the VCAP and VCAP-DCA I am Ehhh about

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I had a recruiter, not the job itself mind you just the recruiter, warn me that a job I may interview for can't go above $60 an hour.

Sixty dollars an hour.

Oh, honey.

#shscproblems

e: I like contrasting those jobs with the ones that want an MCSE/CCNP for $39,000.

This happened with my YOTJ position: "we're so sorry the pay is so low, but we have (lists off benefits for 20 minutes)". Ma'am, this job is a 33% raise and I don't work for a self-loathing rear end in a top hat. We're good.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

IF I HAVEN'T MENTIONED MY FIVE TON LATELY, CHECK MY AIR INTAKE FOR CHEMICAL WEAPONS


Docjowles posted:

Edit x2: vvv haha I forgot bonuses. My annual bonus this year was literally a ticket to the local minor league hockey team. The company gets them for free because we advertise with them. I'm not asking for a fortune "in this economy hurr hurr" but that was straight-up insulting.

You want insulting?

My last place before the one that resulted in me speaking with a lawyer -
* no raises this year, in this economy, hurr hurr
* bonuses a bit below average year
* SUDDENLY, A WILD COMMEMORATIVE COIN APPEARS:
- congrats on all your hard work and efforts leading to our first xx billion dollar quarter! Thanks guys, it means so much!

... yep... I think I'd rather have a raise or a bonus or something than a loving commemorative coin. I can't buy fuel or nifty toys with a commemorative coin unless you actually make it out of gold.

I really miss working there with the team I was on, but I sure don't miss the company bureaucracy and bean counters.

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."


I woulda chucked that coin at the CEO's face, screaming that A MAN NEEDS TO EAT, MR. WHIPPLE!

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Nurse?

kastein posted:

You want insulting?
I was going to try to one-up you until I saw that your company actually did well.

We just lost another client today

edit: I've been there since January 2011 and in that time we have gained one client and lost over ten.

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

teethgrinder posted:

edit: I've been there since January 2011 and in that time we have gained one client and lost over ten.

Countdown to them deciding this is somehow your fault...

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Crowley posted:

By contract I'm entitled to borrow a non-electric travel-typewriter and a "VHS Video Recorder" for home or travel use.

See I would be tempted to actually try and borrow a typewriter just to see what would happen.

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003


Jabor posted:

See I would be tempted to actually try and borrow a typewriter just to see what would happen.

I've found scores of those in my expeditions to the storage rooms, it'll be harder to track down a VCR that isn't rack mounted at one of the media convertion desks.

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

rolleyes posted:

Countdown to them deciding this is somehow your fault...
The problem is that they are not charging enough money and they don't have multiple service plans that make no sense.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



nitrogen posted:

I am SHOCKED that IBM has not run out of 4 digit numbers yet.

They may well have done. Just like every other server in my rack. This thing is old enough to be out of warranty and is running Server 2003 R2.

Naramyth posted:

I'm not sure about here but in TFR someone or a group of someones have dropped somewhere north of $600 on MLP avatars for most of the posters. We don't know who it is but they have to be reading the forum regularly because most of the avatars are related to current discussions.

Basically the bronies are among us.
And if you're still confused, read this thread.

Is kind of a shame these people exist, as the show itself is pretty good. My GF loves it. (not pedo)

enotnert posted:

No, you literally don't get a writeup unless you walk in and poo poo on your supervisors desk. There is a woman in our office that has an office that makes oscar the grouches pad look tidy.

Releasing a shitload of carcinogenic dust into an office full of people doesn't count? Surely your organisation is going to be liable if any of those people get lung cancer in the next 20 years or so?

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Nurse?

rolleyes posted:

Countdown to them deciding this is somehow your fault...
I'm in a unique situation where being fired would be beneficial to me. It would remove the awkwardness of quitting the company to work for the owner's nephew (for whom I'm sporadically working nights and weekends at the moment.)

Unfortunately when I do give them poo poo they take it with a poo poo-eating grin because they literally have no one to back me up or take over. They'd also be in a 'special place' trying to replace everything I do with someone for the salary I'm working at.

In some weird bizarro fashion, having the second job almost makes this tolerable. I like working for the nephew. The main order of business though is separating all of his systems and accounts from his family's.

edit: to elaborate, he came in to work for his family with a business proposition that would have been mutually beneficial. He also thought he'd be updating their systems from the 2000s to 2010s. He didn't realise he would be working with a platform rooted in the 90s, and that his family was apparently so loving poor that they couldn't afford to buy anything new.

Instead of you know, drumming up business, they've been using him as a free network admin. His contract was for three months to help cover the net admin that quit, and now he's still tied up with them 1.5 years later.

Yes, he's learned not to do business with family, ever.

teethgrinder fucked around with this message at Apr 28, 2012 around 17:15

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Moey
Oct 22, 2010



Lum posted:


And if you're still confused, read this thread.



What is wrong with these people.

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