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rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

minivanmegafun posted:



While that does indeed suck, I'm curious as to what you'd like to see used if your company wasn't laughably cheap. Presumably you'd be paying for support, seeing as in technical terms Truecrypt does everything you need?

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Lord Dudeguy
Sep 17, 2006
[Insert good English here]

We have a semi-independent subsidiary in China.

Yes, China.

Their office recently contacted our quality manager explaining that they could no longer access our KnowledgeTree server (kt.mydomain.com). Instead, they saw some "411-china" website that was linking them to the Chinese equivalent of Anti-Spyware 2009. Even though I know very little about the subsidiary, the call got forwarded to me...

Should I click the link?
No, you shouldn't click it.
What should I do?
Do you have on-site IT staff?
No.
Alright... we might be able to use Malwarebytes and Microsoft Sec-
NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
What? Why?
Um... Microsoft spies on us.
... spies?
Yes. If we're running burned copies of Windows, they know.
Are you?
Well... yes.
Right click on "My Computer" and hit "Properties". What does it say under "Version 2002"?
"Service Pack 1".

20 more minutes of haphazard inventory work, and come to find out they're all running SP1, no anti-virus, and no IT group contracted there for upkeep. I don't like the idea of a company that we own running illegal software, but they can't ship the PCs to me (customs issues), and they won't fly me over there. They're not PC-literate enough to send them documentation, and they won't hire out an IT group.

... so now our quality guy just FedExes tremendous piles of MSDS sheets overseas, and China photocopies them. He won't e-mail them due to the quantity and size.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

rolleyes posted:

While that does indeed suck, I'm curious as to what you'd like to see used if your company wasn't laughably cheap. Presumably you'd be paying for support, seeing as in technical terms Truecrypt does everything you need?

Truecrypt was horribly unstable when I tested it, admittedly on Macs. But the CEO wanted free encryption and didn't want to pay. Or use an encrypted disk image or GnuPG.

When I say he ran the company into the ground, I mean maxed out our lines of credit, missed a payment to the people he bought the company from and lost control of the board. We had our first profitable quarter in two years the quarter after he was forced out. God bless the BoD coup.

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

We keep buying Dell desktops with quad-cores, 6GB RAM, 1GB video cards and 1TB hard drives for people that check email and work on spreadsheets all day long.

We could buy two desktops that are still fast (dual-core, 3gb ram, integrated graphics, 320GB hard drives) for the price we pay for one of the top end ones.

Maybe then we could could get the people that are still running single cores with 256MB RAM a replacement computer.

Also, the guy that orders this stuff for us, every loving time without fail, orders something different (Vostros, Latitudes, Studios), who the gently caress cares about standardization.

IT Guy fucked around with this message at Jan 16, 2010 around 19:06

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Родина слышит


I'm working as a developer right now. I have a Windows 2000 shitbox with 256MB of RAM and a 2GHz P4. The guy behind me who does nothing but Excel during the rare times when he's in the office gets a Core 2 Duo of some sort.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007



Just started a new department basically (as in, here's some money, build everything from scratch). We got a $2500 budget for desktop PCs because... Well I have no loving clue. So my boss gets a dual xeon workstation with 12 GB of RAM and a 10k RPM drive for our new office. He's never going to be in our office, as he'll spend most of his time in the old office.

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004



rolleyes posted:

While that does indeed suck, I'm curious as to what you'd like to see used if your company wasn't laughably cheap. Presumably you'd be paying for support, seeing as in technical terms Truecrypt does everything you need?

Anything that supports PKI would be great (the ability to have a master key to unlock all of the machines in the company along with independent keys for each individual user). Regardless, the timeline is way too compressed.

We have all laptops, so the idea of disk encryption isn't an inherently bad one (disregarding the fact that we're using technology to solve a procedural problem), but I'd much rather use a Windows domain (which we don't have and I can't manage to get any traction for implementing one - once again, that involves spending money) and just train users to use EFS.

To the person who managed to get TWO laptops stolen from her car in the span of a month - I hate you and you're a dipshit. If you had one computer stolen, wouldn't you reason that your car is inherently insecure and you shouldn't store things in it?

d3rt
Jul 11, 2004
I'm not racist, I hate everyone

We encrypt all our laptops and remote desktops with Sophos Safeguard Enterprise. The central management console and modular addons is nice, I can push policy changes over the network. I feel sorry for the people stuck using unmanaged end-user full disk encryption. However I have to ask, the decision makers asking you to use truecrypt, what are they doing about USB drives and DVD/CD burners?

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004



d3rt posted:

We encrypt all our laptops and remote desktops with Sophos Safeguard Enterprise. The central management console and modular addons is nice, I can push policy changes over the network. I feel sorry for the people stuck using unmanaged end-user full disk encryption. However I have to ask, the decision makers asking you to use truecrypt, what are they doing about USB drives and DVD/CD burners?

Nothing, of course!





In fact, we need to leave CD burners working, or else users can't change their TrueCrypt passwords (TrueCrypt forces you to create a new recovery disk when you change your password)

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

minivanmegafun posted:

Nothing, of course!





In fact, we need to leave CD burners working, or else users can't change their TrueCrypt passwords (TrueCrypt forces you to create a new recovery disk when you change your password)

Daemon Tools solves that bullshit.

ozmunkeh
Feb 28, 2008

hey guys what is happening in this thread


IT Guy posted:

Also, the guy that orders this stuff for us, every loving time without fail, orders something different (Vostros, Latitudes, Studios), who the gently caress cares about standardization.

To be fair, when you replace equipment on a piecemeal basis it's near impossible to get the same machines. If you're buying from Dell at best you could standardize on "Optiplex" or "Vostro". I know there are people here who have "new computers" (read: dual core, 2GB+, has Vista sticker on case) that are models Dell don't even sell anymore. I don't know your budgets though, so he may well be an idiot.

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004



IT Guy posted:

Daemon Tools solves that bullshit.

And defeats the purpose of burning the CD (to be able to recover the drive if you forget your password). And I'd rather not add another kernel module on top of Windows regardless of how well it's tested when it's not wholly necessary.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



I think the idea is that the CD images end up on a network share somewhere, and then you only need to burn them off if they're actually needed.

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

Lum posted:

I think the idea is that the CD images end up on a network share somewhere, and then you only need to burn them off if they're actually needed.

This is what we do. Also, I install Daemon Tools on every domain workstation/laptop anyway, because, we have some slow remote locations which have a local server with images of Office, etc. in case something needs re-installation.

psylent
Nov 29, 2000



Internet Security 2010

I do occasional IT work for a small 5 person office. I was at home on Friday with my first day off in a while when I got a call from them 'OMG OMG MY COMPUTER IS FULL OF VIRUSES HALP!' I remote connect to their server and then onto her PC to find the above mentioned malware making GBS threads all over her PC. It's slow as gently caress and I can't do anything, I drive in and spend approximately 3 hours cleaning her PC out.

I was there three days before this happened wanting to install a new virus scanner and anti-spyware apps but they were "too busy" to let me work on the PC.

I got paid so it was all good in the end.

HatfulOfHollow
Sep 28, 2000

Dancing is forbidden in the land of [SA]HatfulOfHollow

My roommate has a 19" widescreen monitor. The other day I happened to be walking behind her when she as playing some game and I casually asked why she had the screen set to a 4:3 resolution. She didn't really know what I was talking about but I managed to get enough information to determine that one of her friends had "fixed" it for her by setting the game to 1024x768.

Phuzion
Jun 30, 2006

LAN Parties 4 Lyfe!

People who can't make up their loving minds.

I've got a new office on our shop floor where we moved three supervisors to, in an attempt to keep supervisor stuff private. We decided to keep the big Canon imageRUNNER 5070 in the old office, with the guys that use it a whole lot more. The new office needs a multifunction printer, which I could have had delivered tomorrow, but I KEPT GETTING COCKBLOCKED.

"Hey Phuzion, order a new multifunction similar to what x user has for the new shop office"
"Sure thing, I'll get on the phone with a vendor, and get you a quote"
*calls vendor, 5 minutes into call, phone rings, I ignore it because I'm on the phone, and we have Nortel Norstar phones that say ON ANOTHER CALL when someone is unbelievably ON ANOTHER CALL.*
(over PA system, 2 seconds later): Phuzion call extension 294, Phuzion, 294.
(on the phone with sales rep): "Can you hang on a minute, I've got a call, it might be important"
"Yeah, no problem"

This is Phuzion.
Yeah, hold off on buying that multifunction. We might just end up leasing it.
You sure, I'm sure we went over that we didn't want to add to our contract with (x printer company)
Yeah, pretty sure, I'll look into it though.
Ok.

Hey, I'm gonna have to hold off on this printer for now, we're re-evaluating ideas.
Sure thing man, if you need anything, give me a call, I'll shoot you an email with a few of the different models we talked about today quoted out at the MSRP and the price you'll get them at, just so you can show these numbers to supervisors, and stuff.
Alright, sounds good. If things change, I'll give you a call tomorrow or something.
Alright, take it easy.

I sit down with and the President of the company, and talk this issue over, whether it's worth it to buy or lease, and we decide to get it quoted out from (x printer company) from whom we already have an existing contract of 6 machines with full maintenance.

We call up (x printer company) and ask them for a quote to get something comparable added to our contract. We consider that we'll keep the thing for at least 3 years, and figure that it'll cost $x. I estimated 50 pages per day on the machine (based on the logs I pulled from the old machine, and extracting the users IP addresses out of it), but other people are throwing crazy numbers at me anywhere between 4 PPD and 2,000 PPD.

I give them my data of 50PPD, and they say that my data is totally inaccurate, considering my estimate doesn't include copies, just prints. Ok. But there's no way in hell you guys do 2,000 pages per day. The machine that's in the old office has been there for 4 months and has 36,000 pages on it total. In other words, 300 pages per day. Maybe 400ish if you exclude weekends.

I tell them that since the majority of the copies come from the shipping department and guys on the floor making copies of documents for production, that they would be fine with something that does 25ppm, and has duty cycle of 8,000 pages per month.

Ok, order the printer. We should just move the files back into the old office then.

*calls vendor:
Hi you've reached the voicemail of... I'm currently out of the office...

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004



So, if the user gives you his or her password you can log in immediately, right?
yes, but they shouldn't be sharing passwords.
But if they do, you can log in

dammit you've been in this field a lot longer than I have, you're pushing me on security in the form of drive encryption, and now you want us to just share passwords (the passwords to unlock said encrypted drive, no less)? what the gently caress is wrong with you?

DreamingApe
Jul 15, 2001

Maar geen cent teveel hoor...


HatfulOfHollow posted:

My roommate has a 19" widescreen monitor. The other day I happened to be walking behind her when she as playing some game and I casually asked why she had the screen set to a 4:3 resolution. She didn't really know what I was talking about but I managed to get enough information to determine that one of her friends had "fixed" it for her by setting the game to 1024x768.

that happens way to often, people getting a new monitor and either setting the wrong resolution or not changing it and keeping it at the old resolution. I've come across these people so often that I wonder how on earth HD took off.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

I
AMERICA
AND ISRAEL„
APPLE PIE
AND
ICECREAM


IndustrialPope posted:

I wonder how on earth HD took off.

Marketing. More = better than.

g3k
Oct 1, 2009

oh god, how did this get here i am not good with computer


minivanmegafun posted:

So, if the user gives you his or her password you can log in immediately, right?
yes, but they shouldn't be sharing passwords.
But if they do, you can log in

dammit you've been in this field a lot longer than I have, you're pushing me on security in the form of drive encryption, and now you want us to just share passwords (the passwords to unlock said encrypted drive, no less)? what the gently caress is wrong with you?

One of our admins constantly asks users for their passwords and they give it to her, and has trained on of the other junior IT members to do the same. When the rest of us work with users, the first question out of their mouth is usually "Do you need our password?"

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

g3k posted:

One of our admins constantly asks users for their passwords and they give it to her, and has trained on of the other junior IT members to do the same. When the rest of us work with users, the first question out of their mouth is usually "Do you need our password?"

We do that here, wasn't my choice. Although, I started to go along with it after the idiots started walking away from their machines when I needed them to sign into something.

They get bloody raged if I change their password on them, they would rather just give it to me. I am ashamed of our security policy, or lack thereof.

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob

boo_radley posted:

Adobe is literally the worst tech company ever.
I once had a version of Creative Suite that just flat-out refused to install from its own discs. I had to copy the contents of the disc to the hard drive and monkey around with a bunch of other poo poo to get it to even try. It also took, literally, hours to install. The unattended part. I still have no idea why.

Captain Capacitor
Jan 20, 2008

The code you say?


guppy posted:

I once had a version of Creative Suite that just flat-out refused to install from its own discs. I had to copy the contents of the disc to the hard drive and monkey around with a bunch of other poo poo to get it to even try. It also took, literally, hours to install. The unattended part. I still have no idea why.

It seems that I can't install CS3 or CS4 because my file system is case sensitive. There are scripts to fix it, but require you to already have the files installed or available somewhere else.

Zhentar
Sep 28, 2003

Brilliant Master Genius


I just got my GF set up with a new Core 2 Duo system. She installed & launched Adobe Bridge CS3, and got a warning that her processor was not supported and may perform poorly. It recommended that instead she get a Pentium 4, Core Duo, or Core 2 processor

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


IndustrialPope posted:

that happens way to often, people getting a new monitor and either setting the wrong resolution or not changing it and keeping it at the old resolution. I've come across these people so often that I wonder how on earth HD took off.

Because TVs tend to autonegotiate everything so the user doesn't have a chance to gently caress it up. Unfortunately EDID seems to be impossible to properly implement, so we still have Windows defaulting to 800x600 no matter what rather than having the graphics card ask the display "hey, what's your native resolution" and setting that by default.


Hell, I'd love to see GPU scaling enabled by default, so at least 4:3 resolutions on 16:x monitors would pillarbox like they're supposed to instead of stretching across the entire screen. That way these dipshits might at least run 1280x800 instead of 1024x768 on their 1920x1200 display.

DreamingApe
Jul 15, 2001

Maar geen cent teveel hoor...


wolrah posted:

Because TVs tend to autonegotiate everything so the user doesn't have a chance to gently caress it up. Unfortunately EDID seems to be impossible to properly implement, so we still have Windows defaulting to 800x600 no matter what rather than having the graphics card ask the display "hey, what's your native resolution" and setting that by default.

I just hooked up my laptop to my new tv and it refused to display anything but 4:3 resolutions. I had to set it to "Ignore EDID" before it displayed in 1920x1080. WHY IS IT SO HARD?

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.

IndustrialPope posted:

I just hooked up my laptop to my new tv and it refused to display anything but 4:3 resolutions. I had to set it to "Ignore EDID" before it displayed in 1920x1080. WHY IS IT SO HARD?

My wife's TV did the same thing. I'll have to check and see about that setting next time I try and hook a PC up to it.

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

On topic here: poo poo that I come across daily that pisses me off are ATI's drivers.

gently caress you, ATI.

Sir Nigel
Jun 29, 2006



IT Guy posted:

On topic here: poo poo that I come across daily that pisses me off are ATI's drivers.

gently caress you, ATI.

Why?

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

Sir Nigel posted:

Why?

Because, I have a huge amount of overscan on my 52" LCD TV hooked up to my HTPC that ATI's drivers won't let me correct. That, and the dumb loving interface/layout of their new Catalyst drivers makes finding any feature more work than it has to be.

hermand
Oct 3, 2004

V-Dubbin


IT Guy posted:

Because, I have a huge amount of overscan on my 52" LCD TV hooked up to my HTPC that ATI's drivers won't let me correct. That, and the dumb loving interface/layout of their new Catalyst drivers makes finding any feature more work than it has to be.

Had the same problem with my HTPC, though with Nvidia. I was using Linux, so after a week of Googling I eventually found a setting on my TV that fixed it. It was hidden away, and called "Full HD" or somesuch.

I'm assuming you're using a HDMI / VGA port?

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

hermand posted:

Had the same problem with my HTPC, though with Nvidia. I was using Linux, so after a week of Googling I eventually found a setting on my TV that fixed it. It was hidden away, and called "Full HD" or somesuch.

I'm assuming you're using a HDMI / VGA port?

HDMI out of the card into my receiver (5.1 sound) and back out into the TV via HDMI.

Lono
Jun 30, 2004

In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity.

FileMaker

I get to work with this wonderful piece of software every day. The company I work for sells FileMaker "solutions" (apps that run inside of FileMaker).

Today's little slice of heaven...

FileMaker 9 posted:


There was a print problem reported with HP Laserjet P1006 and P1505n printers. The symptom was that it printed fine the first time, but subsequent printing would crash. The workaround is to not use the mouse when the print dialog box appears. Instead, use the tab key to move between options. Once you move the mouse, it will fail to print.


If you move the mouse once the print dialogue appears the print job will fail and the app will crash. There is no fix for this. Only options are to not use the P1006/P1505n or upgrade to FileMaker Pro 10.0v2. They didn't even fix the bug in their next major release.

hermand
Oct 3, 2004

V-Dubbin


IT Guy posted:

HDMI out of the card into my receiver (5.1 sound) and back out into the TV via HDMI.

I'd say you're almost certainly looking for a setting on the TV.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today


IndustrialPope posted:

I wonder how on earth HD took off.

Remember when they stopped selling standard def TVs that were anything bigger than like 14 inches? That's when.

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

hermand posted:

I'd say you're almost certainly looking for a setting on the TV.

Most HDTVs have a "PC mode" or "game mode" which disables the overscan and most of the post-processing to reduce input lag. I'm going to assume you've looked, so bad luck yours doesn't I guess.

Mr Chips
Jun 27, 2007
Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?


Captain Capacitor posted:

It seems that I can't install CS3 or CS4 because my file system is case sensitive. There are scripts to fix it, but require you to already have the files installed or available somewhere else.

That's probably because dreamweaver (at least CS2/3) is sloppily put pogether, and it wouldn't surprise me if this is typical with the rest of their software. Some of the config files contain all lower case references to a file, But Others have Sentence Case. On a Mac with a case sensitive FS, this becomes a problem, because /directory/foo/file.js and /Directory/Foo/File.js are different things.

Mr Chips fucked around with this message at Jan 20, 2010 around 02:26

The Macaroni
Dec 20, 2002
...it does nothing.

Lono posted:

FileMaker
I feel your pain. My office is using a 15-year-old Filemaker database, kept together with improvised code/scripting, duct tape, and hope. Sometimes when I'm reading a FAQ for how to navigate certain entry screens, a step might include "DO NOTHING. Don't press any keys or move the mouse. Just wait. After the field populates automatically, you may proceed to Step 5."

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Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

Come on, Kickstarter my heart!


Captain Capacitor posted:

It seems that I can't install CS3 or CS4 because my file system is case sensitive.
Good lord, why?!

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