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Ensign Expendable posted:Holy poo poo, people REALLY store passwords in plain text and just do a straight comparison? I've seen an app written in VBA that was storing usernames and passwords in cells right next to each other, with the password letters colored white as "protection", but that was at least an offline application.
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Ensign Expendable posted:Holy poo poo, people REALLY store passwords in plain text and just do a straight comparison? I've seen an app written in VBA that was storing usernames and passwords in cells right next to each other, with the password letters colored white as "protection", but that was at least an offline application. Yup, it's really not that uncommon at all. Even when your sysadmin screams at you for years about how awful of an idea it is. And then, you decide to encrypt them instead of hash them! (which is yet another  ). And in our usual NIH-fashion, we wrote our own code to handle it instead of using MySQL's ENCRYPT() builtin.Ah well. Que sera, sera. I'm out of here in eight days. minivanmegafun fucked around with this message at Apr 21, 2010 around 00:59 |
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brc64 posted:Until very recently, one of the apps we support stored passwords in plaintext in one of the database tables. Granted, not just anybody could get to that, but still, bad form... We store passwords in unprotected excel sheets.  (out of my control)
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minivanmegafun posted:And then, you decide to encrypt them instead of hash them! (which is yet another Man, the longest productive program I've ever written was something like fifteen or twenty lines of Perl and even I've read enough to know that the instant response to "How do I write my own encryption module" is "don't".
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The only time I've had to code anything related to passwords/authentication, the spec explicitly said that we had to use a salted md5 hash.  M3wThr33 posted:Yeah, it's super common. It was just this site that COMPLETELY broke for my account because of it. I've had plenty of sites just fail with me logging in. (EverNote on the Palm Pre, but not on the other clients) myusername+yoursitename@mydomin so is a valid email address. gently caress you, pretty much every site on the internet. And a special gently caress you to gmail for not allowing a hyphen in your email address. It's part of my name, god drat it 
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enotnert posted:switch to deluge, you'll never turn back I used to use deluge, I don't know why I stopped. It may have been because of the scheduling. I'm in Australia so pretty much all my downloads must be off peak.
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"Hmm this machine is realllly slow" "Defrag it then!" Ahh the magic defrag. Has anyone actually seen a notable difference after it's completed? Particularly on XP NTFS which is what most of ours are. We've been doing benchmarks here and the boss is convinced that most of them can be significantly improved through a defrag of the hard drive. So far the only difference I'm seeing between tests is a natural fluctuation through, in fact after defrag the HDD score has technically dropped (very slightly) on the last one I did. Sometimes the OS needs a good de-clutter, sometimes I think it's just a slow drive (as happens when you insist on the cheapest available) If we wanted to pretty much eliminate all "slow PC" griping, it'd be fun to splash out on SSD. That will certainly not happen though, not at current prices anyway. GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at Apr 21, 2010 around 09:43 |
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Watching a YouTube video which has clearly preloaded most of the video already yet constantly pauses and gives me the spinner. 
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LakesGuzzler posted:"Hmm this machine is realllly slow" If the boss had a laptop that went without defrag for a year while going hog wild with internet randomness then yeah, a defrag (likely combined with a spyware scan/clean as well as cleaning up processes starting on boot) would have given him/her that sentiment. It also has in my past experience been a cop-out term when the one cleaning the computer up didn't want to admit to their superior that it was the loads of crapware they put on it that fixed it, but they did defrag it and its much faster now!
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ZeeBoi posted:Watching a YouTube video which has clearly preloaded most of the video already yet constantly pauses and gives me the spinner.
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ZeeBoi posted:Watching a YouTube video which has clearly preloaded most of the video already yet constantly pauses and gives me the spinner.
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Sniep posted:If the boss had a laptop that went without defrag for a year while going hog wild with internet randomness then yeah, a defrag (likely combined with a spyware scan/clean as well as cleaning up processes starting on boot) would have given him/her that sentiment. Agreed - I still think the cleanup would make the biggest difference but the defrag afterwards if it's been that heavily mucked up would add an extra 5-10% performance boost maybe. I just don't think a defrag alone makes much difference. I'm mostly thinking of machines that get minimal and sensible use though. quote:It also has in my past experience been a cop-out term when the one cleaning the computer up didn't want to admit to their superior that it was the loads of crapware they put on it that fixed it, but they did defrag it and its much faster now! There is that. In this case it's from the IT boss (mine) and is mostly used as a cop-out to avoid either a) doing a more thorough investigation/cleanup or b) spending a bit of money on the poor old machine (the standard ones here are 4 years old, some of the others are getting on for 10)
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ZeeBoi posted:Watching a YouTube video which has clearly preloaded most of the video already yet constantly pauses and gives me the spinner. The HTML5 version is blazing fast compared to the flash version (gently caress you Adobe etc.) but the progress bar thing is even more broken. 
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LakesGuzzler posted:Ahh the magic defrag. Has anyone actually seen a notable difference after it's completed? Particularly on XP NTFS which is what most of ours are. Well, at least the HDD is less noisy. Windows's own defrag is not very good, I think. I tried Perfectdisk some years ago (I think it was version 7) and after it had run both in Windows and during boot (to defrag the page file), The drive had 0 fragmented files. Well anyway, you need to buy Perfectdisk after a 30-day evaluation period, but assuming you have a somewhat stable installation, and are not chronically low on disk space, there really is no need to rerun defrag. It's not like your data spontaneusly scatters.
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Oh, I've just been told that a completion date estimate I've made for a fairly comprehensive extranet type website for the company (bearing in mind I have other duties too) is unreasonable because "making websites is easy" YOU DO IT THEN, YOU ARROGANT SALES TWAT. 
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LakesGuzzler posted:Oh, I've just been told that a completion date estimate I've made for a fairly comprehensive extranet type website for the company (bearing in mind I have other duties too) is unreasonable because "making websites is easy" Ah yes, the people that think you are just setting up a geocities/angelfire website. I too, hate Sales.
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IT Guy posted:Ah yes, the people that think you are just setting up a geocities/angelfire website. I too, hate Sales.
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Chris Knight posted:My first real job was doing CD-ROMs in Director, and my boss was Sales as well since he had to go out and demo stuff to get jobs. One thing he'd invariably pull was come back from a demo and say, "Hey, I told a potential client we can do x, y and z. Is that possible/can you guys do that?" The problem with a lot of salespeople (at least where I work) is that the customer asks them if the software can do "x". The salesperson says "yeah, sure it can!", but really the answer is "well it can, BUT here are a bunch of limitations....." They don't want to give out those details (most of the time they don't even know them anyways), they just want to close the sale.
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quote:From: My boss gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you. We have TWO - count them - TWO people on staff who are dedicated to SEO garbage and you're still making your IT support and dev team do it? What the gently caress?!
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minivanmegafun posted:gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you. We have TWO - count them - TWO people on staff who are dedicated to SEO garbage and you're still making your IT support and dev team do it? What the gently caress?!  *does nothing all day, gets paid for every hour  *
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Nice. I just resubmitted my resume to Monster in hopes to get a new job. First day, I get a call from some group that I couldn't understand who it was, I only got the phone number. They somehow had my old resume from last year on file. It was from a staffing firm for some server position. The kicker: $14 an hour, no benefits until after a 6-month contract and that's only IF they hire me. In Reston. So, you want to hire a skilled IT professional with the better part of a decade of experience and you only are going to pay them $14 an hour in one of the most expensive places to live in the US? HA!
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Ted Stevens posted:
Jesus, I started out of school at more than that.
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IT Guy posted:Jesus, I started out of school at more than that. I made more than that in school.
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Seriously. My consulting job doesn't necessarily have many hours a week, but drat, it pays a hell of a lot better than that. Especially since you're locked into it for 6-months. $14 an hour, what the gently caress? Grossing $560 a week, how the hell can you live on that by yourself around here? Rent will be over half your gross a month. I actually laid into him a bit. gently caress, I've been working nearly a decade in IT with a proven track record. I've worked on all systems of all sorts and sizes, configured routers, servers, RAID arrays (but I wouldn't bet my life on that one), and set up entire networks. "But this is a great learning opportunity!" gently caress off. Save the job for some high school grad with an A+ cert (which I already have). That call really pissed me off.
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Ted Stevens posted:That call really pissed me off. Recruiters are all assholes, it's just the way things are.
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Microsoft Learning Rewards program comes up in my email the other day with the implication that I can send vouchers for certification exams to my friends. Great, I know a few people that can use that. Oh, registration is closed until 4/21/2010 8AM PST, alright, I'll wait. Day of, site is loading like crap because there's a fairly low registration limit for this trial run of the program. Get part-way through the registration process and it keeps 404'ing on a particular Submit button. Gee, I wonder why. edit: No, wait, they made that typo on the real file too. It's 404'ing on something else, nevermind.
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Uh oh, Typo.
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Midelne posted:Microsoft Learning Rewards program comes up in my email the other day with the implication that I can send vouchers for certification exams to my friends. Great, I know a few people that can use that. Oh, registration is closed until 4/21/2010 8AM PST, alright, I'll wait. The entire Microsoft Learning site network along with the people that work for it and around it are notoriously inept. We (me and some colleagues) were having a conversation about that just this morning. I am a grandfathered MCT. I keep my MCT current because its a nice fallback in case I need it. Every year, to renew my certification, all I have to do is send in my registration fee and complete my application. And it never fails that every single year that I spend several days attempting to access the MCT enrollment tool because it never works correctly. I then will eventually get to and submit my app only to have it rejected a week later because they did not properly associate payment to my application. I then have to get on the phone with some Indian call center and attempt to get them to help me. Seriously, this happens every single year. The bonus this year was I had my app approved over the phone only to find out a week later they rejected it a second time so I had to call AGAIN. It is absolutely ridiculous how terrible the service is for anything to do with Microsoft Learning.
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Syano posted:The entire Microsoft Learning site network along with the people that work for it and around it are notoriously inept. You'd think the people who handle education and training stuff would be less than completely idiotic, and yet almost every trainer I've met, Microsoft or otherwise, has been a complete moron.  Kind of falls into that whole "if you can, do, if you can't, teach" category.I signed up to take the first part of the MCSE once upon a time and showed up for it only to be told that it had been cancelled without notice. I got a new job the next week and ever since then I have had a bookshelf with all sort of MCSE training materials on it that are just going to sit there forever.
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chutwig posted:You'd think the people who handle education and training stuff would be less than completely idiotic, and yet almost every trainer I've met, Microsoft or otherwise, has been a complete moron. Yeah thats a pretty univerally held experience. I actually got my trainer certification as a result of the first company I worked for was a consulting firm that opened up a IT training business. They took a lot of us guys that had been in the field and signed us up to be trainers. Seriously, back 2001 all you had to do was go through a train the trainer course and pay some money and you were an MCT (its a bit more difficult as I understand now). I got nice and lucky since I had been an MCT so long my teaching requirement has now had grandfathered exception. So basically i get to stay an MCT and I havent 'taught' a Microsoft or any other course in years and years. Anyways, as the training business grew we ended up having to hire people to help out since us guys who started out the business were still doing consulting work as well. I remember one specifically who was a 'programmer' and held all her developer certifications along with her MCDBA and all that jazz. She eventually also got her MCSE while working for us. I kid you not 'I' had to build every one of her classes and labs cause she could never get them set up properly. I was extremely embarrased we were putting someone in front of a SQL class that couldnt even so much as build a SQL server Syano fucked around with this message at Apr 21, 2010 around 16:25 |
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FISHMANPET posted:I made more than that in school. I'm making $10.50 in school, and that was only after fighting and negotiating my way up from $9.75. I'd take $14 in a heartbeat (if I could get anyone to call me back)
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sanchez posted:Recruiters are all assholes, it's just the way things are. Recruiters are sales, they're buying you to resell to a customer and either get to bill for your hours directly, or get a lump sum for placement. In the OP's regard, you should have doubled the amount and told them that's your starting level, then left it to them. I know the going rate for most of the jobs I get pitched for (even though I'm full time and extremely well paid, I keep looking) and some of the recruiters are fairly obviously taking the piss because of their structure; you can actually get them bidding against each other when they don't have exclusive deals...case in point, Disney Florida uses fourteen recruitment firms that overlap like a mother, meaning I get to turn down the same IT job at least four times. Also, if you ever find a recruiter that you like and is straight up, take their name and number for the future. It's like mechanics; lots of idiots and a few real gems.
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That guy was a jackass. I told him the minimum I'd do was $24/hr with guaranteed benefits after that period (which is a little low, but I want a steady hourly job). I'd still have to worry about my own healthcare for a bit. So, I turned him down. It's not like when I worked at the university and making poo poo-for-gently caress an hour. I have skills and experience to bring to the table. Don't insult me with a job where I could make more working for Stream reading off a script all day.
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So yesterday I was experimenting with some software called lansweeper which makes it very convenient to keep an eye on all the workstations, any issues, central alerts of event logs etc. For those departments too small to be messing with the official Microsoft ways of doing it for example. Boss (IT mangler) took one glance and barked "hmph, don't know" and that was the whole idea shot down really as when he says that it means he's going into negativity mode and will never agree to it. Anyway I spotted a couple of machines spewing antivirus errors and mentioned them to try and illustrate some of the usefulness of the software. "Oh we'll have to look at those". Me forgetting that he's Al Bhed - when he says "we" he means "you". Had a lot of other things on my plate today so he gets all pissy with me for not fixin the problems that "we" were going to look at. The problems that have been unnoticed for months and would've remained so if I hadn't taken the initiative of finding something to make it easier to keep an eye on these things. Grr. Anyway not the best example of my boss being an rear end in a top hat but for those whose "poo poo that pisses you off daily" is the boss I found a handy little list if tips here http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi...page=2;read=153 Point 1 is VERY true!
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Ted Stevens posted:That guy was a jackass. $24/hr still seems very low for this area. You should make at least $40/hr and even that seems low.
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People with apple products who expect me to keep around loads of junk to make their fancy smancy variety of mac books working. I am sorry, we're in a recession and even if we weren't I wouldn't try to budget an extra 500-600 bucks per semester to make sure I had multiple power/display connectors for your goddamned laptop. You want a mac? Buy your own damned adapters. For fucks sake.
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Puck42 posted:$24/hr still seems very low for this area. You should make at least $40/hr and even that seems low.  At least my resume is on file at  now, even if they turned me down for the job I was applying for.
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Puck42 posted:$24/hr still seems very low for this area. You should make at least $40/hr and even that seems low. I don't know if it's just my Florida upbringing, but if you required a salary of $40 an hour, you'd get laughed out of the office. I really need to get out of that mindset. Anyway, ~$50,000 wouldn't be a bad salary, especially for a single male with no kids. I know this is NoVA, which has the highest per-capita income and costs of living in the US, which is why I figured that amount would be the bare minimum. I'd absolutely love having a $40/hr job in a normal workweek.
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NoVA is most certainly a 50k a year location to live comfortably. (Somehow my ex-gf lives on 35k, but her car is paid off, which probably helps). Even Tech Support positions around here demand 45k, 55k if it requires special training. With beer being 5 to 6 bucks a pint, shots being 8-10, you definitely better get at least 50 or 60k around here. You'll need it.
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Yeah, I work for a federal IT contractor, and I'd say if you're doing anything but the most basic helpdesk stuff in or near DC (particularly federal stuff) you should be at $50-55k minimum. Clearance? Add $5-$15k depending on what level/from whom.
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