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Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Karanth posted:

Leading straight into my thread contribution: when people assert that lack of their own pet features in a software package is not only a bug, but a sign of developer laziness because it would be "so easy" to add, completely overlooking or disregarding the idea that it might be like that on purpose. Whenever someone asserts that "not doing things my way" = "laziness", they come across sounding like this guy:

The corollary to this is when someone uses the well-polished mirror argument of, "The developer wants me to do it their way instead of mine. How arrogant! Of course their software should do things MY way!"

I bet you're in the "no 'send' button" pro-pidgin-devs crowd, aren't you?

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Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Erwin posted:

Which brings me to my second point. Microsoft Silverlight. Go away, Microsoft. Yes, Flash is retarded and somebody should do it better and free-er, but you are not the ones to do it. Just because you can sneak your poo poo onto computers through Windows Update doesn't mean you should try to make a product that does nothing more than an already existing product just so you can have your name on it. gently caress off.

Actually Silverlight is pretty cool from a developer's perspective (at least starting v2+). I'm interested in rich content development like that, but I'm not interested in shelling out all this money for flash and learning a new language. Keeping my IDE and sticking to a language I know? Yes please!

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

narby posted:

Another thing that irritates the poo poo out of me is windows feeling the need to decide what folder properties I should have just because there happens to be an mp3 or jpeg in a folder with 100 other non media files.

You know what? I really don't need a loving "myrating" column for anything, let alone a directory full of cpp files and headers you son of a bitch.

All I want is to be able to sort by filename, file type, size and modified

Assuming you're running Vista, folder template auto detection can be easily disabled
code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell]
"FolderType"="NotSpecified"

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Zorilla posted:

Here's a small one I wish I never have to see again:



No, not System Restore being turned off, but rather, having to check a box on to turn a feature off. It's pretty bad when items in the core OS interface don't follow this common sense rule of UI design.

What do you consider the proper way to turn a feature on or off?

e:VVV Oh, right Somehow I read that as "I don't like checkboxes" rather than "I don't like double negatives"

Factor Mystic fucked around with this message at May 3, 2008 around 02:18

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

arcticthunder posted:

Switching to vista I'm personally really annoyed that with all the hype about the aero glass theme, Microsoft didn't seem to allow third party programs uses transparency for anything but the title bar.

Nope, developers are just lazy. I will grant you that the DWM API 1.0 is a bit short on the fun, for instance, you can't draw a live window thumbnail on anything but a plain jane 2d canvas, so for instance duplicating Flip3D isn't possible yet, and you can't replace the default shader program (eg, the minimize/maximize effect). I've heard promises we'll get that in the future, but you still have moderate power with this version. You can, for instance, duplicate the Office 2007 or Windows Media Player style UI with WinForms using existing API.

But as far as cool goes, pretty much any whacky effect you can think of is possible with WPF. You can even get the Expressions Blend 2.5 Preview for free. There's a good deal of inertia, however, especially with new tech.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

narby posted:

-Similar to above, "Windows is searching for a solution to the problem". Has anyone ever seen this actually find a solution?
Yes, actually. Every month or so I check Problem Reports and Solutions. It notified me about a motherboard bios update awhile back. Not really an everyday thing but handy nonetheless.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Z posted:

Also, back to the OP, I hate everyone who doesn't use their LCD at native resolution. And Vista's control panel. Seriously, am I just supposed to guess what vaguely-named category has what I'm looking for in it?

Just search for it. And if it bugs you that much switch to classic view.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

PowerLlama posted:

I don't care where you are, you go home right now, and you figure out how to make that fucker go away.

You can't unless you set the window border to 0. You have to use the custom aero.msstyles that removes it.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Rock Tumbler posted:

Why the gently caress did Microsoft make Office 2007 look the way it does? YOU ASSHOLES MADE WINDOWS. Why can't you make your OWN GODDAMN SOFTWARE use the native widgets in your OWN GODDAMN OPERATING SYSTEM? Gah!

Look, I know you hate it and I know it's not made of native widgets, but having literally just finished a paper in Word 2007 tonight, I have to say I really, really like it. I love the ribbon, I love that I can collapse it and have a distraction free working zone, I love that is kind of tabbed and does what I need, etc. I ordinarily hate apps that go their own way, but honestly, that's because custom widgets are typically a regression in usability/clarity/etc. But with Office 2007 I'm willing to give it a 'bye' because I believe it's actually a step forward.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

hyperborean posted:

By the way, earlier today I went to save a file, and double-clicked not-quite-fast-enough on the folder it should go in, and it wanted me to rename the folder. After this thread made me think about it, I've noticed this actually happens to me on an infrequent but regular basis.

Decrease your double click speed in mouse settings.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Jetsetlemming posted:

I used a Vista machine for about a month at the beginning of the year, and it was hell. I was having PSTD flashbacks to Windows ME from the shocking display of reduced usability and increase in annoyances.
Seconding the 'people who hate Vista without a good reason' complaint and adding in 'People who compare Vista to ME'. BOY AREN'T YOU EDGY NEVER HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE.

Jetsetlemming posted:

Luckily there's a brazen scofflaw community of ne'er-do-wells to help.
Whoa, there's a work around for that? Please share.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Lum posted:

It's against the rules to link to cracks and filez, so no-one here is going to help

Oh, well I guess I didn't realize it was a crack. I was hoping for some kind of trick to get it to ignore Process Explorer so I don't have to reboot every time I want to play a game.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Ryouga Inverse posted:

No, it still does that. It's the superior choice to just loving showing the key.

I honestly don't get this. OSX at least offers a visibility checkbox but stuff like the Wii or the iPhone especially, why are you not showing me the key as I type it? Anyone looking over my shoulder could see? SHOCK HORROR OH GOD! People IN MY HOUSE might be able to GET ON MY WIFI?!

Alternately, the person whose laptop I am typing this key into so that they might be able to utilize my network might be able to see my key, which, oh god, they might be able to use to... how does this make sense at all?

It's like the guys who designed the interface just went with "it's a secret, it must need to be masked" without actually thinking of what the cryptographical definition of "secret" was.

You'd probably appriciate this. And for what it's worth you do have a checkbox to unmask what you typed in Vista.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Zhentar posted:

^^ It's got all my bookmarks in it. Lots of people want their bookmarks migrated.


When I switch computers, or reinstall my OS, I'd like to be able to copy one single My Documents folder over, and have everything I want copied over. Instead, I have keep an image of my old Program Files folder for at least a year because of random files hidden in deep subfolders that I end up needing later.

Less technical users than myself are less likely to copy over things other than My Documents (which is what the windows utilities know to actually copy), and more likely to end up needing to reinstall their OS or move to a new computer.

God Bless programs that keep all user files & settings in My Documents.

Of course the proper way to do this would be to copy your entire user folder, not just My Documents, that way your user settings for all your programs migrate. Still one folder, shouldn't be an issue.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

AcridWhistle posted:

No, that is what VirtualStore is for

My mouse was angrily hovering over the quote button before I realized you were making a joke. Good one!

Ryokurin posted:

Another I've recently run into are people who eat up with slashdot says about how uac is worthless because it can be "hacked around" I'm not a programmer, but I found in a quick search that 1. a program can ask for elevation from the jump, and once UAC is advised the program is ok it remembers it, so it won't prompt you every single time. 2. Splitting a program into user and system process is better because at least non administrators can run the program if it really needs system access. Its not a hack, its how Microsoft wants you do do it! UAC is actually making you make good security and usability decisions. Its not the devil, and if more and more programmers actually researched what triggered a prompt and why then most people would rarely see the prompt.
How a program decides to handle UAC is up to the program, for better or worse. Microsoft has published application guidelines that outline basically what you've said. Remember though, there's 1) a lot of inertia and 2) a lot of lazy programmers who care for functionality over usability.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction


2-second google, people
code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell]
"FolderType"="NotSpecified"

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Dyscrasia posted:

On my Gigabyte board, I was able to update the BIOS without ever leaving windows. Course I needed to reboot after the update. Worked without a hitch. I was pretty impressed, my first BIOS update without having to deal with bootdisks.

Abit you can apparently do from Windows too, but I booted to a flash drive and did it that way anyway.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

quote:

The real reason is that on Windows there's really nothing that passes for a standard, consistent way of doing things, and so developers just sort of make stuff up as they go along. That's the standard.
While this is true, it's most true when developers roll their own controls. Programs that use standard controls will have standard behavior.

Also, address bars highlight all when you click on them, but if you click-once-and-hold, it won't highlight, and you can select a range. Also, you can tell the difference between address bars and text controls, because address bars have the regular cursor when you hover over them, while text controls switch to the "I" thing.

e: Just kidding.

Factor Mystic fucked around with this message at Jun 11, 2008 around 21:25

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Sister Miyagi posted:

2. loving wireless. In XP, you could right click on the wireless icon to open the settings prompt (I think it was what came up if you double clicked, even). Now I have to click/right-click the icon, go to the worthless network and sharing center, from there take a hyperlink to "Manage my network connections<' right click the connection I want and open status from there. Very helpful! And don't get me started about getting a loving WPA connection set up.

Just so you know, if you're in range of the wireless network you need the properties for, I think you can right click->Connect to a Network, then right click the AP->properties.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

The Gunslinger posted:

I really feel bad for people in bachelor apartments or dorm rooms, I don't even know how I'd get to sleep with that loving fireworks going on in my room.

We turn our electronics off at night

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

bob arctor posted:

Why the gently caress does updating adobe (Reader or acrobat pro) need to reboot my system ever? Shouldn't it's libraries be isolated enough from critical system libraries to not need a reboot? Also standard adobe updater rants here.

If I had to guess (and this is just a guess), I bet Adobe has a shell extension for pdf's. In that case, what you actually have to do is relog, not reboot to safely restart Explorer.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

What pisses me off is applications whose uninstaller is named "uninstall.exe". See, if it were named "uninstall daemon tools.exe", that would be great because when I start search for "uninstall daemon tools" it would come up as the only hit. Try that now, why don't you. Start search "uninstall" and see how many anonymous uninstallers show up on the list.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

No, I know I can uninstall from the Control Panel, I'm not stupid. And I don't mind that they renamed it either in Vista, since I can search for a dozen 'uninstall' related words and the right applet will pop up, and it is also nice that I can search the installed programs list from there as well. Also, you can hover over start search results for their folder, so you can figure which is which that way. I know all this.

All of these facts, however, do not stop me from being annoyed when I start search 'uninstall' and see a dozen anonymous uninstallers.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

liquidXenon posted:



To be fair, if you go to the network browser with file sharing off (but network discovery on), it will pop an alert about it.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

syphon^2 posted:

Eh? I always thought Ctrl+F is Find, while Ctrl+H is Replace (and Ctrl+G is Go-To). I just verified with Word 2007 and this is its default behavior.

EDIT: Checked Word 2003, it's the same there too.

Ctrl-E is search in Firefox/IE/Explorer, so it's not totally out of left field.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Vista file copying progress meter: it displays % done not by time, as you would want/expect, but that file # out of the total number of files in the operation. Copying a giant directory? Forward, forward, OH! discovered a subdirectory with a billion files, so...backwards a few notches, then zoom to the end, then wait for that last sliver of progress while the final huge file copies. They changed the control panel to show physical ram, but they didn't change the progress meter to time. Dumb.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Drighton posted:

Does anyone else hear Office 07 referred to as "Vista"?

Xenomorph posted:

No, but I worked with someone who ONLY referred to Word as "Microsoft".

"I opened it in Microsoft."
"Let me type that up for you real quick in Microsoft."
"That file you sent me won't open in Microsoft."




I'd always say "Microsoft ... what?"
Her: "What??"
Me: "What, what? You said said Microsoft. Microsoft-what? What Microsoft program?"
Her: "You know, Microsoft. The thing where you type."

This and this, every day. Throw in the Mac version of Office and I constantly want to kill myself.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

c0burn posted:

Copying and pasting from web pages into a Word document or whatever. Did you REALLY think I wanted all that lovely formatting? Thankfully Puretext fixes this.

Or you could just change the default paste behavior in Word to be text-only.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

I just use 7z to move files around but I guess that's not optimal since it's not built in.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

I have 3 rows of 12 tabs open at the moment. One quarter is articles queued to read but have been too lazy, about half is research and documentation for a couple projects I still have to wade through, and the rest of it is kind of daily things. If there was a better way to put things that are "important, but not enough to bookmark; transitory but important for now" I'd be all over it.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Lum posted:

How do you get multiple rows of tabs to appear (assuming Firefox)

TabMix Plus.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Lum posted:

How do you get multiple rows of tabs to appear (assuming Firefox)

TabMix Plus.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

I had an idea, not sure how well it would work out in implementation, but if image hosts provided the dimensions of the image as part of the url, specifically for forums. Say you upload lol.jpg to waffleimages, the image link it gives you would be http://waffleimages.com/image/lol.jpg#145x152. Or it could add the dimensions to the img tag like boo_radley suggested.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Doctor Optimal posted:

This is more social and less technical, but what pisses me off is the casual racism against Indians I hear from my users. No one in our entire company ever has to deal with Indians, we aren't big on outsourcing but since I'm "the computer guy" that means I clearly want to hear about how they had to "talk to a goddamn Indian" this weekend when they couldn't figure out how to use their HP photojet-whatever.

Seriously, shut the gently caress up, you sound like a mouth breathing redneck.

Seriously though I get really pissed off at Indians too. And they always pronounce gigabytes "gee-bees".



Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

brc64 posted:

My girlfriend's Vista laptop had this problem for a long time. And when it did come out of it successfully, the wireless wouldn't reconnect until after a reboot. Since then, though, I've got it all patched up to SP1 and installed some wireless driver updates and now it's awesome!

It hibernates when the power is low (which happens quickly because the battery is shot), but turning it back on from hibernate now brings me to a fully functional and Internet-connected desktop in about 45 seconds. Considering it's only got 1 GB of RAM, I find that pretty impressive.

Actually, is it really 45 seconds? Time it with a watch some time, I bet it's less. At least it is on my 1.5GB crap for everything single core Dell.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Lum posted:

I thought Windows Search was supposed to be horribly broken on XP and missed loads of stuff when searching?

Have they fixed that now?


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pr...owssearch4.mspx

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

MrMoo posted:

It also lurks as an optional update in Windows/Microsoft Update.

It'd be better if there was a standard API that could integrate with Google, it's a bit lame running both Windows Search and Google Search indexing. Same crap on Ubuntu with trackerd.

1) There is an API for WDS (no idea about Google's)
2) Why, oh why, would you run both WDS and Google Desktop search

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

The Remote Viewer posted:

Steve actually thinks iTunes on Windows is good. I believe the phrase used was 'Like a glass of icewater in hell.'

If that's true than the Zune software, and even WMP are gushing torrents of crystal clear spring water fresh from a pond where you put in stuff and it turns it to gold (but it's safe to swim in of course) and also there's Aphrodite herself tanning naked on the beach. And this is the region of Hell near the surface, so it's more of a warm breeze on a summer day. Oh and this is the only Hell that you can play real video games in.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Fishstick posted:

Why do this? Just let me grab the drat installer itself already.
Responsive feedback for nontechnical users. It's the difference between "Download was quick, install took awhile but it kept going the whole time then worked fine" and "Had to download this huge installer, then I forgot about it, I don't know where downloads go and now I have to download this 100MB program again."

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Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

/ falls forward and \ falls backward as you are reading it.

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