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Whitey Ford
Jan 29, 2007

Chairman of the Board

Uziel posted:

One thing, my gym doesn't have free weight squats. It looks like a regular squat cage, but you have to roll the bar a certain way to unlock it. Not sure if anyone knows what I'm talking about. Is that a smith machine, or?
That's a smith machine.

They don't have a power cage?

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Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

Ask me about losing 200lbs, and becoming the Viking God of W&W.

No, they didn't. They have two bench press benches, one incline bench, decline bench, squat smith machine and some bars for curling, etc.

Also, for Deadlift, should I use the curling bar or pull the bar off of one of the benches?

RobBorer
Jun 22, 2006

Sometimes I look for Rupees.

Uziel posted:

No, they didn't. They have two bench press benches, one incline bench, decline bench, squat smith machine and some bars for curling, etc.

Also, for Deadlift, should I use the curling bar or pull the bar off of one of the benches?

Use the olympic bar from a bench.

otter
Jul 23, 2007
word.

Just to contribute on the steel cut oats front... I found it a lot easier to eat than regular rolled oats. And, if your grocery store has a bulk foods section like mine does, you can get it for something like 42 cents a pound instead of $3/can.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

Ask me about losing 200lbs, and becoming the Viking God of W&W.

Week 15 weigh in. Gained .4 lbs this week. However, I did begin Starting Strength this week. Starting tomorrow is another vacation but I will have control over my breakfast and lunch, so I am going to try to eat lighter for breakfast and lunch since dinner will be at restaurants.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

Ask me about losing 200lbs, and becoming the Viking God of W&W.

So, I'm back from vacation and eating dinner out every night. I will see how things are on the scale tomorrow.

However, while I was away, I did see myself making better choices all around without the safety net of calorie counting and feel much better because of it. I also decided to kick it up a notch to make sure I'm definitely under 350 by my birthday. (losing ~13lbs by 9/21/08) I hadn't been tracking my macro nutrient ratios and starting tomorrow, I'm doing just that.

I worked through a meal plan to up my protein since I'm now at the gym 4-5 nights a week and doing Starting Strength. I'm cool with eating the same thing every day for breakfast and lunch so here is my plan. Please tell me what you think.

Breakfast: 3 Large Eggs with Fat Free Cheese(251 calories, 23.9g protein, 14.9g fat, 2.2g carbs)(may add green peppers and onions)
Morning Snack: Whey Protein Shake(260 calories, 46g protein, 5g fat, 6g carbs)
Lunch: Chicken Wrap (Wheat wrap, 6oz chicken, 2tbs sour cream, 2tbs salsa, fat free cheese, 1 cup shredded lettuce), Light Yogurt and a Mozzarella Cheese stick(575 calories, 60.8g protein, 13.2g fat, 48.6g carbs)
Afternoon Snack: 2oz Beef Jerkey(160 calories, 28g protein, 2g fat, 10g carbs)

Before dinner, that would put me at: 1246 calories, 158.7g protein, 35.1g fat, 66.8g carbs.

For dinner, I'm generally looking at 750ish calories with a lean, high protein meat (chicken, turkey or lean sirloin steak) and veggies/salad, and to hit about 2200 calories and 250g of protein, another 260 calorie protein shake before bed.

Edit: I suck at math, what is the easiest way to figure out my nutrient split without using a calorie tracking website?

Uziel fucked around with this message at Jul 6, 2008 around 18:22

c0ldfuse
Jun 18, 2004

The pursuit of excellence.


Have you thought about fish? I love tuna/mahi-mahi steak. Cook it up with some olive oil and fresh herbs either on a grill or saute. Great high protien low fat meal.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

Ask me about losing 200lbs, and becoming the Viking God of W&W.

I love fish, but my wife hates to cook it as she despises the smell and doesn't eat it. Since she's a teacher, she is able to cook my meals for me for the entire summer and since I'm going to the gym so much its very convenient to eat right when I get home.

c0ldfuse
Jun 18, 2004

The pursuit of excellence.


Uziel posted:

I love fish, but my wife hates to cook it as she despises the smell and doesn't eat it. Since she's a teacher, she is able to cook my meals for me for the entire summer and since I'm going to the gym so much its very convenient to eat right when I get home.

We're talking about the same fish right? Tuna/mahi mahi or other saltwater fish when bought fresh from an upscale grocery (never frozen) shouldn't taste or smell 'like fish'.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

Ask me about losing 200lbs, and becoming the Viking God of W&W.

c0ldfuse posted:

We're talking about the same fish right? Tuna/mahi mahi or other saltwater fish when bought fresh from an upscale grocery (never frozen) shouldn't taste or smell 'like fish'.
She's pregnant, apparently everything has a smell.
I will work on it though.

Uziel fucked around with this message at Jul 7, 2008 around 01:42

UnsungZero
Mar 20, 2004

I dedicate this gold medal to my former teammate and good friend, who I miss more than my Ferrari... This one's for you Ilya


Just wanted to say good job on the weight loss. I started going to the gym again about three weeks ago and watching my diet. I decided I want to be able to play hockey again and not feel like I'm dieing 20 seconds into a shift even if it is just with friends.

I have a quick question for you though. I'm going to try and bring my friend with me and he is around 350ish. Are you more on a high protein low carb diet or have you just been making sure you keep away from fat as your main goal? I want to try and help my friend get healthier since, well, I'm scared the kid is 24 and going to have a heart attack.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

Ask me about losing 200lbs, and becoming the Viking God of W&W.

I haven't been trying to hit any certain ratio of low carb or low fat thus far, I've just been trying to cram as much protein into my diet as possible (as budget allows).

I felt like I haven't been getting enough so I'm trying to include more chicken and multiple protein shakes throughout the day.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

Ask me about losing 200lbs, and becoming the Viking God of W&W.

Since I'm now recording protein fat and carbs, looks like an average day nets 57% protein, 15% fat, 28% carbs. Unfortunately, my weight really hasn't changed at all since June 21st and I'm starting to get really frustrated as that's the exact date I started strength training. =(

Django
Dec 22, 2004


If you're eating at a deficit, perhaps the increased muscle mass from the training is offsetting weight lost? How're your clothes fitting in comparison to before?

Moms Stuffing
Jun 2, 2005

the little green one

Uziel posted:

Since I'm now recording protein fat and carbs, looks like an average day nets 57% protein, 15% fat, 28% carbs. Unfortunately, my weight really hasn't changed at all since June 21st and I'm starting to get really frustrated as that's the exact date I started strength training. =(

Lifting does that, don't worry. When I first started lifting and dieting, I didn't lose anything scale wise for about a month, and then all of a sudden I lost 7 lbs at once.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

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Django posted:

If you're eating at a deficit, perhaps the increased muscle mass from the training is offsetting weight lost? How're your clothes fitting in comparison to before?
Since I've already lost 40lbs or so without buying new clothes, I guess they fit/feel about the same (ie, baggy). I'm definitely eating at a deficeit (generally eating 2200 calories).

Google Embryo posted:

Lifting does that, don't worry. When I first started lifting and dieting, I didn't lose anything scale wise for about a month, and then all of a sudden I lost 7 lbs at once.
I hope that's the case with me, as right now me weighing less is the most important thing for my health.

hepscat
Jan 16, 2005

Avenging Nun


I went through a long weight loss and I have two things that really stick out to me as moments that surprised me. First, that after an injury that took me away from exercise for about six weeks, I still lost weight at the same rate completely with diet (I was only doing cardio at that point). Second, that after I started lifting weights seriously, my weight loss stopped and even went up a few pounds - but that in a very short period of time, like a month, I went from a size 20 to a 16. Then the scale started moving down again.

At the time I was worried about the weight loss but very quickly I could see that it was reshaping me and I was getting "you've lost more weight" comments. I figure visible weight loss sure beats what the scale says any day.

I know you say weight loss is the most important aspect of improving your health right now, but you are getting benefits from strength training. Also, look at it this way - by eating right, you are pouring health into your body. Even if you never lost another pound (and you will!) you are better off than you were before by both of those lifestyle changes. Hang in there, your body can only stave off physics for so long, and your increased metabolism will start to pay off.

Banana Bandit
May 6, 2007
Mmm... yummy

Have you tried taking basic body measurements to see if there has been any changes (chest, waist, hips, etc)? I agree with everyone else that it's probably increased muscle causing the plateau in weight. Your measurements have likely gone down though, so you could maybe hold on to that until the weight loss is visible again in numbers.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

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hepscat posted:

I went through a long weight loss and I have two things that really stick out to me as moments that surprised me. First, that after an injury that took me away from exercise for about six weeks, I still lost weight at the same rate completely with diet (I was only doing cardio at that point). Second, that after I started lifting weights seriously, my weight loss stopped and even went up a few pounds - but that in a very short period of time, like a month, I went from a size 20 to a 16. Then the scale started moving down again.

At the time I was worried about the weight loss but very quickly I could see that it was reshaping me and I was getting "you've lost more weight" comments. I figure visible weight loss sure beats what the scale says any day.

I know you say weight loss is the most important aspect of improving your health right now, but you are getting benefits from strength training. Also, look at it this way - by eating right, you are pouring health into your body. Even if you never lost another pound (and you will!) you are better off than you were before by both of those lifestyle changes. Hang in there, your body can only stave off physics for so long, and your increased metabolism will start to pay off.
Thank you, its good to know that I'm not alone.

I am not currently taking measurements, but I will start next time I do an official weigh in (Saturday). Is there any type of guide for doing measurements?

Also, my wife managed to find Steel Cut Oats so I'm going to give those a try tomorrow. They were as cheap as everyone said too, 17 servings for $2.50.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

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Week 17 weigh in. Down 3.4 lbs. Finally lost some weight after 3 weeks of being the same. I hope to break into the 350's this week and be under 10lbs of my next short term goal (being under 350).

Unfortunately, lifting has made me hurt all over and it's become harder to try and swim. On lifting off days I just want to go to bed. I guess that's good because I'm really pushing myself.

Tomcat1944
Mar 31, 2004

Be at peace my friends

Good on ya mate you're almost there.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

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Weight 18 weigh in, down 2.4 lbs. This puts me at 359, which is a total of 48lbs lost thus far. I am continuing to push my lifting and refine my diet. Most days I get 50% protein.

Mephistopheles
Sep 24, 2003

How can I help you?

Great job Uziel!

Your results are inspiring. Keep it up

In Drywall
Feb 22, 2008

"...he had learned to hoard little injustices,wishing they might leave him with one significant wound, for which he could guiltlessly martyr himself forever."


I've been watching this thread for a while, just wanted to stop in and say that your progress has been really impressive.

Madama Butterfly
Apr 6, 2005

All who dare to cross her course are swallowed by her fearsome force!


Cool! I'm really excited for you.

How did the steel cut oatmeal work out for you? I hope you liked it.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

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Madama Butterfly posted:

Cool! I'm really excited for you.

How did the steel cut oatmeal work out for you? I hope you liked it.
They were alot better than regular oatmeal. I am trying to figure out how to work them into my diet, as I get more protein from eggs alone.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

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Week 18 weigh in! I have been continuously pushing myself in the gym and it seems like all I eat is chicken and shrimp and I love every second of it. I lost 3.2 lbs since last week and that puts me at 355.8 lbs, about 6lbs from my short term goal of 350 lbs!! (total of 51.2 lbs lost since March)

Some Alf DVDs
Dec 2, 2004

*SLurpz*

Really nice. Think of a 50lb dumbell at the gym. You've lost that much off of your body. That's huge.

Madama Butterfly
Apr 6, 2005

All who dare to cross her course are swallowed by her fearsome force!


Yay!!

I think that one of the best parts of getting healthy is all of the yummy chicken

magnafides
Feb 7, 2004
I love molesting 8 year old girls, their tiny little hands make my cock look huge

All too often we see threads like these vanish into oblivion--it's good to see that you're sticking with it. The biggest challenge is making being healthy part of your lifestyle (and not just a diet or quick fix), and it looks like you've done that. I have no doubt that you'll be able to reach your goal. Good luck!

Bloghairy
Jun 16, 2006

There's two kinds of people that dont ask a lot of questions. One is too dumb to and the other dont need to.

I've also been watching this thread since the beginning and would like to say congratulations. Seeing you stick with this even while sometimes voicing your doubts is very inspirational. Keep up the great work.

Moms Stuffing
Jun 2, 2005

the little green one

Holy crap you lost 50 pounds! Awesome!!! I haven't checked this in awhile, wow that is really cool. Keep it up! Also, when is the baby due?

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

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Google Embryo posted:

Holy crap you lost 50 pounds! Awesome!!! I haven't checked this in awhile, wow that is really cool. Keep it up! Also, when is the baby due?
Thanks!
Baby is due December 21st. We have our 20 week sonogram on Monday to solidify that date and find out the gender (or if it's twins).

Moms Stuffing
Jun 2, 2005

the little green one

Uziel posted:

Thanks!
Baby is due December 21st. We have our 20 week sonogram on Monday to solidify that date and find out the gender (or if it's twins).

Cool, I'm due almost exactly a month after your wife! No Christmas binging, ok? Your baby needs a healthy daddy.

Captain Q
Nov 30, 2005

I CONJURE THIS INTREPID FANTASYSCAPE WITH TEARS BLED FROM THE WISDOM-WEARY EYES OF FIFTY THOUSAND IMAGINARY MAGICIANS


You are an inspiration. Keep it up.

Candycanes
Apr 6, 2007


Just to wish you the best of luck - and I hope your wife is doing ok

You really are doing the best thing you possibly can for your family by losing the weight.

JayJay
Jun 16, 2005

TEHHHHHH Jetplane!



Captain Q posted:

You are an inspiration. Keep it up.

Seconding this. I started my loss at 419 and you are a huge inspiration.

UnsungZero
Mar 20, 2004

I dedicate this gold medal to my former teammate and good friend, who I miss more than my Ferrari... This one's for you Ilya


Candycanes posted:

Just to wish you the best of luck - and I hope your wife is doing ok

You really are doing the best thing you possibly can for your family by losing the weight.

Got that right. Having good eating habits and an exercise regiment will help you instill them in your child. And then, (s)he will be a healthy child! Good job, and keep it up.

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

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UnsungZero posted:

Got that right. Having good eating habits and an exercise regiment will help you instill them in your child. And then, (s)he will be a healthy child! Good job, and keep it up.
That is my main motivator. I will never, no matter what, allow my child to fall into the bad habits and ignorance of human nutrition as I did, so long as I live. (And I plan to live forever, or die trying)

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Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

Ask me about losing 200lbs, and becoming the Viking God of W&W.

Week 20 weigh in, gained .2 lbs. I'm not suprised, both of my brother's birthdays are this week. So I ate dinner at Cheesecake factory one night, and it lives up to its reputation. However, I continue to push myself at the gym harder and harder every week. For some reason however, my bench weight isn't moving, but my decline bench is. Conversely, my squats are climbing up 10lbs every workout. Eventually, I'm going to hit the point where it's too much weight, but drat my legs hurt. =P

Uziel fucked around with this message at Aug 2, 2008 around 14:40

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