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Bullio
May 11, 2004

Seriously...

The Gunslinger posted:

I'm struggling with the Martin "A Song of Fire and Ice" series mentioned above me. It seems like there are moments of brilliance speckled into the books but for the most part it just seems like fantasy reader-torture porn. No, I don't mean like Terry Goodkind. I mean he basically tortures the reader. It's like he set out beforehand and wrote an amazing back story for the material then decided to treat every single character like poo poo and see how long the reader will tolerate it. I get why people like it because there are spots where you forget the dreariness and dread of "Who will get raped, lose an arm or be savagely murdered for no reason?". To me those spots are too few and far between. I stopped on the second or third book I think, I don't know if I'll go back since I hear it just gets worse in terms of what I dislike about it.

I know this is a first page post, but I had to agree with you on this one. I did make it through the books and loved them, but I got the same vibe as you. He sets everyone up nicely just so they can get kicked in the balls. In fact, I got my brother, who enjoys heavier stuff like Dostoyevski and other non-fantasy fare, to read it and he brought that point up as well. He did like it, but he said the way Martin writes, it looks like Jon's in store for a HUGE rear end reaming the next book. After all, he's one of the few characters who has things going good for him at this point in the series.

I can't seem to make it through Jack Vance's Dying Earth. I know it's supposed to be just one of the greatest books ever, but the writing style is hard for me to get into. It seems like it's written like a greek epic. My reading experience and taste has broadened considerably since then, so I may give it another chance. The narrative just throws me off is all.

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