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Luisfe
Aug 17, 2005

Hee-lo-ho!

Thanks to the awesomeness of Mr. Swoon, I am able to do a Let's Play thread for this great addition to the Shin Megami Tensei series. Digital Devil Saga is the most "jRPGish" spinoff so far, being more focused in story development than the other games.
Cover:


Wikipedia posted:

Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga (デジタル・デビル・サーガ アバタール・チューナー, Digital Devil Saga - Avatar Tuner) is a PlayStation 2 role-playing game. It is a spin-off of the Shin Megami Tensei series of video games; the main difference between Digital Devil Saga and the main series is the focus on specific characters rather than summoning demons to fight alongside your party. The story to Digital Devil Saga is continued with its direct sequel Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2.

Notable features of the game include the ability to shapeshift between demon and human forms in battle, and a return of the "press turn" battle system from Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne. A large difference between Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga is the ability to change equipped skills at will, instead of at level up. Unlike in Nocturne, unlearned skills are not lost forever, which allows for much greater character customization. The game features a mantra system where Atma gained after battle can be used to "download" new abilities at a saving terminal. Atma is gained by devouring enemies in battle.



Introductory Video (Viddler)
Also on Youtube.


My previous SMT LP threads:
Shin Megami Tensei
Shin Megami Tensei 2
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army




Cast:
Serph: Main character. Apparent mute. His stat growth is determined by the player. Ice affinity. Weak against Fire.

Heat: Not the main character. Stat developement determined by the game, favoring physical skills. Fire affinity. Weak against Ice.


Gale: The Tactician of the Embryon (the character's tribe). Balanced stat growth. Wind affinity. Weakness against Electricity.

Cielo: Craziest hairdo in the game. I think he favors luck. Electricity affinity. Weakness against AILMENTS (that is horrible in a SMT game), and thus almost never used.

Argilla: Stat growth focused in magic (and thus, for a great deal of the game, a VERY HEAVY hitter). Earth affinity. Weakness against Wind.
Her breasts bite. No, really.


In this game, every level up provides 3 points to be distributed for Serph. It is your duty to choose what areas should be focused. Again, a balanced one would be best.
And as the wikipedia quote said, there is a skill system that allows you to mix and match freely. It makes things easier. Unfortunately, the previously passive skills, such as resistances and nulled elements are now instead active skills, shields that need to be raised.
Since I am not a masochist, I will be using a NewGame+ file, and that will allow me to retain all the mastered Mantras that were in the previous cycle. It is likely that the Mantra Grid will be filled by at least one character (Serph).

Table of Contents:
Update 1: Welcome to the Junkyard
Update 02: Back to the Base
Update 3: He eats with his heads, she refuses to eat with her breasts.
Update 04: Harley dies, and Argilla is Anorexic
Update 05: The Song.
Update 06: The Karma Temple
Update 07: Gale's Plan.
Update 08: Manipura's Welcome.
Update 09: Alliance with the Maribel
Update 10: The Citadel.
Update 11: GOD drat STATUES.
Update 12: [url=12: Mick and Jinana
Update 13: Mourning.
Update 14: Bat's Trap
Update 15: Escape from the Maribel's base
Update 16: And he is Jamaican.
Update 17: Entering Coordinate 136. Also, kitty.
Update 18: gently caress you, Evil Prince
Update 19: The HipHop/HeeHo Brothers. Second Puzzle too.
Update 20: Third puzzle/Foreshadowing ahoy!
Update 21: The last Puzzle
Update 22: Meeting Mick Again.
Update 23: Mick Dies.
Update 24: Relocation.
Update 25: Argilla as Sera
Update 26: Planting bombs.
Update 27: More Bombs and The Trap is Sprung.
Update 28: Boom. New base.
Update 29: Breakin' the law
Update 30: King Frost
Update 31: Meeting Lupa
Update 32: Sewers. I hate sewers.
Update 33: Cerberus.
Update 34: The Mansion
update 35: Ravana.
Update 36: The End of Rain
Update 37: Changes in the status quo.
Update 38: The King of the Flies.
Update 39: GOD drat GRIND
uPDATE 40: Beelzebub goes down.
Update 41: Orochi appears.
Update 42: Orochi goes down. And Horus. Lots of Horus.
Update 43: Goin' down.
Update 44: The ascent begins.
Update 45: More ascent
Update 46: Still going up.
Update 47: The last ascent
Update 48: Chinese Phoenix
Update 49: Dragon Long
Update 51: Baihu and Metatron.
Update 52: Huang Long.
Update 54: Ending

DIGITAL DEVIL SAGA 2
First Update: Introductory cutscenes.
Update 02: Occupied Sector
Update 03: Introducing: New bullets and rings.
Update 04: Introductory dungeon STILL NOT OVER
Update 05: Meeting Roland, at last.
update 06: A deal
Update 07: Mantras and Rings.
Update 08: Angel's nature revealed.
Update 09: Rings acquired, and warning the Lokapala.
Update 10: Killing giants and mending cables.
Update 11: More party members? yes please.
Update 12: TREACHERY!
Update 13: A factory?
Update 14: Omoikanes and Mantras.
Update 15: Prison Pelvic Thrust.
Update 16: Prison shenanigans
Update 17: Vengeance, your smell is horrible
Update 18: First look at Karma City
Update 19: Underground emoness.
Update 20: Silly naming.
Update 21: First few floors of the Karma Society's tower.
Update 22: Huntin' in the Tower.
Update 23: Reaching an Elevator.
Update 24: Tribhuvana.
Update 25: Still going up. Slowly.
Update 26: IT STILL GOES ON AND ON
update 27: Heat appears again.
Update 28: The top of the Karma Tower is reached
Update 29: Out of the Tower again.
Update 30: Jack FROOOOOST
Update 31: Inside the EGG
Update 32: The Egg featuring Jack Frost again
Update 33: The Egg still goes on.
Update 34: Abbadon.
Update 35: poo poo hits the fan.
Update 36: Oh boy the world is ending.
Update 37: Entering the Power Plant.
Update 38: Gates and more Jack Trivia.
Update 39: Guarded Terminals
Update 40: Two Locks Gate = open
Update 41: Roland Leaves
Update 42: Strep Throat and cutscenes
Update 43: Sacrifices.
Update 44: Blackout.
Update 45: Back to the Laboratory.
Update 46: Laboratory Innards
uPDATE 47: Goddamn vortices.
Update 48: Why doesn't this dungeon end.
Update 49: Confrontation in the EGG
Update 50: Talking felines
Update 51: Serph re-emerges.
Update 52: Heat is dead.
Update 53: Tortillas, Flautas, and released Angels
Update 54: Meet Uriel
Update 55: Raphael goes down
Update 56: Gabriel.
Update 57: ALL TOGETHER NOW (With Michael)
Update 58: Airport.
Update 59: More crawling in an airport.
Update 61: Almost done with the Airport
Update 62: Last confrontation with Angel.
Update 63: EVERYONE loving DIES. THE END.
update 64: Oh wait everyone is dead, but it ain't over.
Update 65: Entering the sun.
Update 66: Holes in the sun.
Update 67: Harley! Long time no see!
Update 68: Jack Frost can be an rear end in a top hat.
Update 69: Leaps of faith passed.
Update 70:Bat.
Update 71: Sphincters and flowers
Update 72: More weird subbosses.
Update 73: Bullshit seals.
Update 74: BEFORE TELEPORTS.
Update 75: TELEPORTS. Part one.
Update 76: TELEPORTS. Part the Second.
Update 77: Sixth Layer. DONE.
Update 78: Meganada
Update 79: Grind
Update 80: Shiva

and Blah

Luisfe fucked around with this message at Feb 03, 2010 around 15:31

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Mikan
Sep 05, 2007



You list "Fire affinity" twice in Heat's description.

Vprisoner
Jun 28, 2007

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I'll overlook the silence that comes with not being able to say much about the gameplay anymore due to the fact that DDS has some awesome voicework.

Good luck, andGODDAMMIT I FEEL THE URGE TO NOISE GRIND AGAIN GRRAAAAGH

Ahem. Well then.

Throne of Bhalz
Dec 11, 2003


Yet another game in this series that I never got around to playing, but i'll read the hell of this thread. You're a true hero, Luisfe

Throne of Bhalz fucked around with this message at May 13, 2008 around 03:21

EthanSteele
Nov 18, 2007

I can hear you


I've been going through this game recently and it's a more forgiving Nocturne/Lucifer's Call in my opinion, mostly because you can swap out skills whenever you like outside of combat and removing the demon capture aspect means they can't throw as much at you...and I've managed to pretty successfully bend this game to my will based on things I've learnt from your previous threads.

Looking forward to the indepth stuff I may have missed.

Penile Dementia
Feb 13, 2006

I Left My Heart in Stamford Bridge


Vprisoner posted:

I'll overlook the silence that comes with not being able to say much about the gameplay anymore due to the fact that DDS has some awesome voicework.

Good luck, andGODDAMMIT I FEEL THE URGE TO NOISE GRIND AGAIN GRRAAAAGH

Ahem. Well then.

Oh god, the flashbacks, waaah. Good luck, Luisfe!

Vprisoner
Jun 28, 2007

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THEMAINGATETHE
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SHININGLASER!!!


EthanSteele posted:

I've been going through this game recently and it's a more forgiving Nocturne/Lucifer's Call in my opinion, mostly because you can swap out skills whenever you like outside of combat and removing the demon capture aspect means they can't throw as much at you...and I've managed to pretty successfully bend this game to my will based on things I've learnt from your previous threads.

Looking forward to the indepth stuff I may have missed.

Oh don't you worry. Although they fixed several of the areas Nocturne is mean to you in, they still found... other ways to make the game challenging.

And BTW Luisfe, once I was able to slap a  Null Ailment or Null Attack  on Cielo he really turned out to be not that bad of a character. He actually is supposed to put more of his stats in Agility, and his Magic is decent.

Heat can go eat a dick though. "O HAY I HAS STRENGTH O WAIT OTHER STATS WHOOPS"

Vprisoner fucked around with this message at May 13, 2008 around 03:24

Spuzzz
Mar 27, 2005

The Arcana is the means by which all is revealed.

This should be good, I love DDS. Voting Serph be mostly balanced but with more strength than magic.

Spuzzz
Mar 27, 2005

The Arcana is the means by which all is revealed.

Vprisoner posted:

Oh don't you worry. Although they fixed several of the areas Nocturne is mean to you in, they still found... other ways to make the game challenging.

Yeah, you need the whole group to wipe in this one, but they are very, very good at killing your group. My favorite death was all three people getting hit with Dormina followed by Silent Death.

Terashell
Dec 19, 2007

And now let's drop our happy little bombs.

You work fast Luisfe, looking forward to more!

Luisfe
Aug 17, 2005

Hee-lo-ho!

Spuzzz posted:

Yeah, you need the whole group to wipe in this one, but they are very, very good at killing your group. My favorite death was all three people getting hit with Dormina followed by Silent Death.

Happened to me. After beating someone in the sewers.
I was not pleased.

and Blah

Vprisoner
Jun 28, 2007

THEMAINGATETHE
MAINGATETHEMAIN
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THEMAINGATETHE
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SHININGLASER!!!


That's weird. I've taken quite a few Dorminas in my first playthrough, but never the entire party at once.

Luisfe
Aug 17, 2005

Hee-lo-ho!

Update 01:


This is the title screen. I will be seeing this quite a bit.



Once again, the same disclaimer. This time there is not a single time travelling Russian mad monk sent to assassinate the Japanese Emperor, but not doing anything of the sort and letting history be changed. Nope.
Or any other sort of historical figure. No, because as you will see, this one is set... In the FUTURE.


New Cycle. After finishing the previous cycle. As I said in the OP, this is to keep all the skills that were previously acquired. That'll make things much, much easier.



This is better seen in VIDEO.
Gaining Atma (viddler)
What's up with the weird cat? (Youtube)






This won't make sense for a good while.




The biggest font is clearly distressed by the green font's statements.









Welcome to The Junkyard. A land of eternal rain, and a land of eternal battle.
In the Junkyard, one must fight to survive.




And there they are.
These are the heroes of the story. The Embryon. The smallest Tribe in the Junkyard.
They are all especial in a way.




Argilla. Sniper.
Her eyes are gray.




Serph. Leader. He is putting a lens in his eye.







Notice. It is different. The lens said "Harly". It was clear as day.



Harley. Leader of the Vanguards. Another of the Tribes of the Junkyard. We'll be seeing more of him later


And this?




What the hell is this... Egg?



Heat sports a machine gun.


And so does Cielo. He has a funny hairdo.



Gale. He is the most serious one of them all. He is the tactician of the Embryon.



Everybody but Serph is expendable.
If the leader of a tribe falls, the tribe is absorbed by the victors.
That is bad news for them.



"Remember that."




Cue obligatory action scene.



They all spring into action.



Wait, what's that there?



A... Cat?
Whati s a cat doing in the middle of a battlefield?







Clearly, confusing Serph and allowing him to be blasted by explosive arrows.
The cat will be important later. Much later.





Serph carries a handgun. And he is able to hit targets like the aforementioned explosive arrows. He is a whiz with it.




But, that might be a bit too much for him.
Well, it was fun. He is dead. Goodby all.



Orrrrr... Not






No, Serph is not speaking. It's Gale.


"Remove the unidentified object at coordinates 2314 5873.
Failure to comply will be deemed an act of war."




"Remove the unidentified object at coordinates 2314 5873.
Failure to comply will be deemed an act of war."



Both sides have no idea what the hell that is.





Well. That can't be good.






Not good for either side.









Hm
This is not Xenogears.
It doesn't say "You shall be as gods"




VARNA.





Well, that's quite a way to start this, isn't it?
The main character just became a God and started... Eating... The other ones.


Next: The Aftermath of Atma.

and Blah

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

I commend my soul to any god that can find it.

Voting in irrational favor of NOTHING BUT LUCK.

Vprisoner
Jun 28, 2007

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Pfft, Strength is where it's at. At least in the sense of preventing  MOTHERFUCKER WHY IS STRENGTH NOISE HUNTING SO GODDAMN IMPOSSIBLE  in the future. Also, they capped the levels at 99 in this game instead of the hidden 255, presumably because there are enemies in this game that drop stat boosting items.

Gilder
May 08, 2008


I love DDS so I will be following this thread intensely. I don't want to spoil anything but I'm curious, are you going to try to show off new game+'s "main attraction"?

Also I vote the strength route. Might makes right when it comes to cannibalism.

Xythar
Dec 22, 2004

echoes of a contemporary nation

Will you be posting videos of the cutscenes? The voice acting in this game is fantastic, so it'd be a shame to miss out on it.

Luisfe
Aug 17, 2005

Hee-lo-ho!

Xythar posted:

Will you be posting videos of the cutscenes? The voice acting in this game is fantastic, so it'd be a shame to miss out on it.

drat right I will.
The voice acting is stellar.

and Blah

Coughing Hobo
Jun 29, 2005

I have finally obtained a body that can fight without limit!

I've come to see what the game is like after I stopped playing, but I'm mostly here to watch Cielo's  sudden emergence of Jamaicanism. 

Vprisoner
Jun 28, 2007

THEMAINGATETHE
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It really is a shame that Cielo sucks in conventional combat; he's a really fun character. Hell, I really like all the characters in the Embryon... well, except maybe Heat.

Solar System Bus
May 30, 2007

by Fragmaster


This is the only Shin Megami Tensei game that I am remotely familiar with. "Remotely familiar" in the sense that I saw the opening cutscene at a friend's house, in addition to a couple of battles. It looks pretty interesting, so I'll be sure to stay tuned.

Feinne
Oct 09, 2007

I will turn my life into a world for the sake of love.

Unlike Nocturne a heavy Magic build is awesome in DDS because you can hotswap abilities outside of combat.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"Paul, I don't get Coach's sayings. He's gonna give me an F for sure."
"Shut up, Walt. Veterans don't get F's."

Am I overlevelled if I'm at like level 26 at the  second time you go to the Maribel base and get trapped ?

Anyway, this is fun times. Hopefully after finals, Boom Blox, and World Ends With You I'll get back to it.

Rude Lion Guns
May 07, 2008


Ah, I love how insane this game is right from the start. And we haven't even seen the  mouth-breasts  yet!

Are you going to be using all of the advanced mantras right off the bat?

Vprisoner
Jun 28, 2007

THEMAINGATETHE
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THEMAINGATETHE
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

Am I overlevelled if I'm at like level 26 at the  second time you go to the Maribel base and get trapped ?

A little, maybe. That sounds like a normal level for  Coordinate 136  right after that, too.

octobernight
Nov 24, 2004
High Priest of the Christian-Atheist Church

Glazius posted:

Voting in irrational favor of NOTHING BUT LUCK.

That's actually how I play every single Atlus game. Not sure if it's stupid or not, but I do get a lot of item drops.

Zereth
Jul 09, 2003



Luisfe posted:

In this game, every level up provides 3 points to be distributed for Serph. It is your duty to choose what areas should be focused. Again, a balanced one would be best.
Strength and Magic approximately equal in priority, with Agility and Luck in second place, and Vit back in third place. (Don't hit Magic TOO hard, though, because Magic Noises are by far the easiest to farm. Especially once you get Death Flies.)

And load Serph up with fire skills! You want that holy grail of the Auto skill Resist Fire, don't you? DON'T YOU? FAKE EDIT: Oh, second cycle. In that case, get Serph Null Attack pronto. (and Auto Soma. and Death Flies.)

EDIT: And man, that opening cutscene makes a lot more sense now that I'm closing in on the final dungeon in DDS2 so I know who's actually talking and what they're talking about.

MUMMYMTN
May 22, 2003


What's the grind like in this game? I'm tempted to pick it up, but I don't want something that's going to be too demanding. As much as I loved Nocturne, I don't think I'll ever be able to play it again for that reason.

Spuzzz
Mar 27, 2005

The Arcana is the means by which all is revealed.

There is some grinding, usually for a new healing spell before a boss. I had one big pixie farming break in the middle and that held me until Titania farming for the extra bosses. That's one disapointing thing about P3, there's no extra bosses.

Syrg Sapphire
Mar 27, 2007

future love is on the rise

Spuzzz posted:

That's one disapointing thing about P3, there's no extra bosses.

 Elizabeth  begs to differ.

Digital_Dogu
Apr 23, 2008


Wow Luisfe! I wouldn't of expected you to LP DDS so suddenly just after finishing off Devil Summoner.

I also like your new avatar BTW. Hee-lo-ho!

b00n
May 08, 2007

I'm not German, you fag

Serph must be related to Raidou. Look at those eyes.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008


b00n posted:

Serph must be related to Raidou. Look at those eyes.

You could just blame it on them being designed by the same guy.

As for Serph's eyes...you may have noticed that they're oddly empty and grey like everyone else's. I found it kind of unsettling, myself, when I first saw it. But grey is a very predominant color in DDS1 (with occasional splashes of bright color to even it out, so it's WAY better than Gears of War's ten thousand shades of grey.)

Serphy wasn't quite a good leader starting off, was he? Argilla tells him that a leader is indispensible, and what's the first thing he does? Charge off into combat!

I mention this in the previous thread but goddamn I am glad Serph has a name. Even if he doesn't say anything, people are still able to refer to him directly, unlike "Him" and "That Guy" from FFX/2 and P3.

Speedball fucked around with this message at May 13, 2008 around 14:43

Vprisoner
Jun 28, 2007

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Speedball posted:

You could just blame it on them being designed by the same guy.

As for Serph's eyes...you may have noticed that they're oddly empty and grey like everyone else's. I found it kind of unsettling, myself, when I first saw it. But grey is a very predominant color in DDS1 (with occasional splashes of bright color to even it out, so it's WAY better than Gears of War's ten thousand shades of grey.)

Everyone's eyes are grey as a plot point. Pay attention to their eye colors as the game goes on and you'll see what I mean.

zidane13
Jan 02, 2005

"C'mon, aren't they supposed to get all
dewy-eyed, "Ooh, Mr. Yuri! Thank you ever so much! SMOOCH! Ain't that how it's s'posed to go? Oh man, now I'm all depressed."


Ahh, I was looking forward to this LP, if only to see the end. I stopped at the final dungeon for some reason and...never picked it back up. Don't you dare neglect Shadow Hearts:Covenant just because you're doing this, though!

CordlessPen
Jan 08, 2004

I told you so...

I've played through the first one a billion times, and I'm pretty sure I've seen all there was to see, so I won't be following this particular LP, but I really hope you'll be doing the sequel (you probably will), because I love your style and haven't played it. Yup, that's right, I haven't played the sequel of an extremely story-centric RPG that I loved and that ended in a cliffhanger. I'm that stupid.

Feinne
Oct 09, 2007

I will turn my life into a world for the sake of love.

CordlessPen posted:

I've played through the first one a billion times, and I'm pretty sure I've seen all there was to see, so I won't be following this particular LP, but I really hope you'll be doing the sequel (you probably will), because I love your style and haven't played it. Yup, that's right, I haven't played the sequel of an extremely story-centric RPG that I loved and that ended in a cliffhanger. I'm that stupid.

You really should, 2 is MUCH better.

ChrisAsmadi
Apr 19, 2007
:D

I actually started playing this a while back.

...and oh god, do I hate Coordinate 136. I hate it so very much.

Except the Jacks. They're cool.

I'd like to see a balanced Serph, myself, but a Strength based physical powerhouse would be pretty nifty, too.

9999DMG
May 20, 2007
Gently caress this poo poo.

I'm probably going to sit this one out, as I'm currently playing this game. I'm having trouble making ends meet while still having everyone constantly learning new mantras. It's most frustrating when you're in the middle of a big dungeon, and you've got lots of cells but no way to get out and sell them. Still, it's a very cool game, and I'm sure this LP will be up to Luisfe's usual high standards.

Moogy
Jun 16, 2005

by Fragmaster


I sure hope you're going to fight  Hitoshura! He sure is really easy to beat! 

Well, kidding, but I would greatly enjoy seeing a video of that.

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