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Bullpup shotgun!
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| # ? Jul 7, 2008 20:30 |
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| # ? May 24, 2013 04:19 |
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Post the one with the built-in tactical light!
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| # ? Jul 7, 2008 21:04 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Bullpup shotgun! Can anyone deny that that is the ugliest gun known to man?
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| # ? Jul 7, 2008 21:43 |
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Fine, I'LL do the legwork on Google to find the flashlight-equipped version. Edit: This old guy I knew back home kept one of these in his shop for defense.
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| # ? Jul 7, 2008 21:55 |
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Those are almost as ugly as FALs. There, I said it 
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| # ? Jul 7, 2008 21:57 |
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Some guy turned this: into this:  here's links to what the gun should originally look like and the tacticlol version if you want to see more pictures of it. Original: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=103688531 Tacticlol: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=102864271
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| # ? Jul 7, 2008 22:15 |
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I never thought I'd ever see a tactical Wilkinson Arms Linda, of all things. Ever. I swear to god, that gun really is like something that came off of the island of misfit toys. "I wanted to be a pistol, but I'm too heavy!" And this is just the regular Linda I'm talking about. edit:  Tacticalinda!
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| # ? Jul 8, 2008 02:49 |
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Fat Ogre posted:I've never understood these loving things. If you're going to bother making a bullpup shotgun, why on earth would make it tube-fed? Christ, it doesn't even have a magazine extension straight from the factory.
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| # ? Jul 8, 2008 05:41 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Bullpup shotgun! This may just be the most retarded thing I have ever seen. I'm not sure I want to live in a world that can give rise to an abortion like that.
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| # ? Jul 8, 2008 14:37 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:This may just be the most retarded thing I have ever seen. There's also the Mossberg Bullpup. It's a Mossberg, and it's a pump so it's more intimidating.
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| # ? Jul 8, 2008 15:50 |
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infrared35 posted:There's also the Mossberg Bullpup. It's a Mossberg, and it's a pump so it's more intimidating. OK, functionally speaking that's a few orders of magnitude more retarded, but come on - at least an ATTEMPT (however lovely) was made to give it something looking like a normal stock. That other one looks like someone welded the bottom of a lamp base to the rear of the gun.
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| # ? Jul 8, 2008 15:58 |
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infrared35 posted:There's also the Mossberg Bullpup. It's a Mossberg, and it's a pump so it's more intimidating. I almost bought one of those a while back. It's a gimmick gun, but it still looks like it would be a lot of fun to shoot. Even for a pump shottie the trigger was horrible.
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| # ? Jul 8, 2008 16:51 |
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As with the post in the photo thread, The Forums That Should Not Be Named (4chan) have been dredged.    Click here for the full 1395x1542 image.
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 02:55 |
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Ygolonac posted:As with the post in the photo thread, The Forums That Should Not Be Named (4chan) have been dredged. This just screams "Blank Cheque and no oversight"
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 03:12 |
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Ygolonac posted:As with the post in the photo thread, The Forums That Should Not Be Named (4chan) have been dredged. Alright, I have to ask. What manner of retardation is that pistol they have? I know I've seen it before, but I forget the name-- is it just an AR pistol? Also, kudos to the top two guys on the left for muzzling the bottom two guys, trigger discipline be damned. Not to mention, what the gently caress use is a vest with shoulder pads when your weapon doesn't even have a stock?
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 03:41 |
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DrakeriderCa posted:This just screams "Blank Cheque and no oversight" My first thought was along the same lines.
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 04:00 |
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MercuriusHG posted:I know I've seen it before, but I forget the name-- is it just an AR pistol? Yes.
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 04:03 |
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It's a Bushmaster Carbon 15 Type 97 pistol.DrakeriderCa posted:This just screams "Blank Cheque and no oversight" Exactly. Huge semi-auto pistols look evil, but they're lacking as a tool to shoot people with. It's no big deal for an agency to get an SBR, so the lack of a stock is inexcusable. Also, the sights suck and the Carbon 15 line is not known for its reliability. The whole reason they started making the lowers out of plastic is because of the AWB weight limit for "assault pistols" (which never even applied to LE in the first place). That's the same reason why it doesn't have a handguard. Finally, there's the ~7" barrel which turns most of the powder in a 5.56mm cartridge into flash and noise instead of getting the bullet up to speed where it can fragment on impact and do some damage. Whoever bought those needs to be punched in the nuts.
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 04:32 |
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http://www.townoftazewell.org/police/ Well there's your problem. I suspect that may be the high speed unit from their Municipal Emergency Response Team. Protecting the Appalachian hills since 2001.
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 04:52 |
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Wow their web designer is almost as professional as their armorer.
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 05:09 |
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Craptacular posted:Wow their web designer is almost as professional as their armorer. Haha! sex_offenders.htm? There has to be a dancing baby somewhere on that site.
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 05:19 |
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Robokraut posted:Haha! sex_offenders.htm? There has to be a dancing baby somewhere on that site. Ahaahaha. Oh man, you'd think they'd spend some of the money they blew on those ridiculous getups and waste-of-funds pistols to pay an actual web designer instead of the "guy on the force who knows computers." Also, this GIF at the bottom of the sex offenders page is amazing.  E: VV oh my god I lost my poo poo at the colors on ecstasy. Boat fucked around with this message at Jul 10, 2008 around 18:48 |
| # ? Jul 10, 2008 14:23 |
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Boat posted:Ahaahaha. Oh man, you'd think they'd spend some of the money they blew on those ridiculous getups and waste-of-funds pistols to pay an actual web designer instead of the "guy on the force who knows computers." Oh god, if you think that's good, go take a look at the bottom of crime_prevention.htm. Gotta love how they spelled out the names of drugs in appropriate colors and that  graphic of cops and robbers chasing and shooting each other.Wow, it's like Geocities from the 90s. Even classicarms.us has better layout than this. Also, lol at the 7000+ page hits. Wonder how many of them are goons at this point?
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 15:22 |
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quote:<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0"> That probably says it all right there... heh... Makes me wonder though... don't they look like the kind of department that would be similar to the NJHP in Super Troopers?? The only thing they're missing is the good ol' blink tag... and a punch Osama to win an ipod banner.
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 17:26 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Bullpup shotgun! Ouch, My fuggin head!
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| # ? Jul 10, 2008 20:47 |
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Ygolonac posted:As with the post in the photo thread, The Forums That Should Not Be Named (4chan) have been dredged. I have thought about doing this but with JUST AR uppers.
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 00:58 |
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B4Ctom1 posted:I have thought about doing this but with JUST AR uppers. How would the magazines stay in place? 
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 02:24 |
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infrared35 posted:How would the magazines stay in place? It would feed from a feed tray off of a belt.
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 02:29 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Oh god, if you think that's good, go take a look at the bottom of crime_prevention.htm. Gotta love how they spelled out the names of drugs in appropriate colors and that Did anyone else look at the powerpoint slideshows? The ecstasy one was awesome!! I learned SO MUCH about wasteful law enforcement spending!!
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 02:43 |
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So I don't know the first thing about ballistics, but would .223 perform differently out of those 7-inch barrels than, say, spitzer .22 HMR? I can't see what purpose weapons like these would serve, even in some LE Counter-Strike wank-off fantasy. They remind me of metallic silhouette guns more than anything else. Or perhaps their precinct suffers from a high incidence of varmint-related crime?
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 03:41 |
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Tamerlane posted:perhaps their precinct suffers from a high incidence of varmint-related crime? For some reason that reminded me of a scene from "Armed and Dangerous." The Cowboy: Slim, I ain't never seen a handgun that big before. Frank Dooley: Yeah, it's a 50 caliber. They used to use it to hunt buffalo with. Up close! It's only legal in two states. This isn't one of them.
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 03:49 |
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A town staffed by what appears to be over funded, shifty police that is named Tazewell. Fitting.
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 03:51 |
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Kao_Pai posted:http://www.townoftazewell.org/police/ Did you notice the guy on the sex offender list who was convicted of "CRIMES AGAINST NATURE (SODOMY)"? I thought those sodomy laws were struck down...some time before that? http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.go...OR?id=X00099717
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 04:46 |
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Well, there is sodomy, and then there is sodomy. For example, I don't think dog loving is legal anywhere in the U.S.
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 04:55 |
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Skyssx posted:Well, there is sodomy, and then there is sodomy. For example, I don't think dog loving is legal anywhere in the U.S. Yeah, I was going to say that this crime sounds like it involved a little too much emphasis on Nature.
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 05:44 |
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Did you notice the guy on the sex offender list who was convicted of "CRIMES AGAINST NATURE (SODOMY)"? I thought those sodomy laws were struck down...some time before that? Crimes against nature are usually, as others have mentioned, pollution and the such. The sodomy aspect is loving (tee hee) horrifying.
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 06:46 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Dude, those things were DESIGNED FOR WW1 TRENCH FIGHTING. And somehow they neglected to remember that there was going to be mud and dirt?!? Okay, going to take a couple issues with this post and expand on it. Firstly, the Chauchat was not in any way designed for trench fighting in World War One. At the turn of the century France had shown an interest in automatic weaponry, and before WWI broke out, there had been many investigations into adopting new, portable weaponry. The closest weapon they had at the time being the Hotchkiss Mle. 1909 GPMG. Looking to adopt a man-portable, light automatic rifle, they originally looked to the designs of Rudolf Frommer to create what would be France's first "Machine Rifle." However, as the committee that was drawn up to look into the development of the rifle began to buckle to internal politics and the poor logistics of the French high command, the weapon took a very different shape. Originally chambered for an intermediate cartridge, the French military insisted that it be adopted to utilize the already-obsolete 8mm Lebel round,facilitating the need for the half-moon magazine with its incredibly tapered rounds. The interesting part is that the holes in the magazine came from the original prototype production of the Chauchat that was started in 1912, two years before WWI broke out. These original prototypes were instead used as a mounted aircraft machinegun, the magazines instead mounted on the top of the weapon like the Danish Madsen rifle. The area where the vertical foregrip would later be added was where the swivel-mount for the weapon was placed. The magazines on the top provided with the cuts for the gunner to keep track of his ammunition supply. He's up in an airplane, he's not supposed to worry about dirt, right? If anything, the weapon was "designed" for the very opposite, and adapted, like many machineguns of the war, to become an infantry weapon. The French command, as inept as usual, kept the same magazines that were designed for aircraft use and had them used as the official pattern. The weapon didn't need to be kept hyper-clean, as it had hilariously loose tolerances, but having dirt-coated bullets will do that to any weapon. Soldiers of some assault troops would use bandages to wrap around their magazines, but as the magazines only held 20 rounds, and the fact that Chauchats were employed on such an amazing scale for WWI, ensured that there'd be no way to keep all of them clean or blocked up. Considering the Chauchat gunner himself by 1917 carried a web loadout of two pouches for four Chauchat magazines on him coupled with a magazine bag that held six magazines, for a total of ten magazines and one in the rifle-- and some were even issued a special haversack on top of it that held twelve more magazines, multiples of these haversacks issued to every man in the assault squad. Regarding the anecdote about the Chauchat, that can go both ways, I won't argue that it wasn't a bad gun, it was, but there was a documentary done in the mid 90's about the history of machineguns for The History Channel (weapons of war, maybe? not sure), and a WWI American gunner is interviewed who says the weapon was nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. It differed greatly from soldier to soldier because-- The sad reality is the USA got the poo poo end of the deal on the Chauchat business. The weapons they received were largely "refurbished" weapons that were French hand-me-downs, which is ironic in the very statement because Chauchats, through the brilliance of the Gladiator plant, weren't fully interchangeable in the first place. The result being the USA getting a literal mixed bag of operable and inoperable weapons. Many weapons passed down to American soldiers having already seen thousands of rounds fired through them. The French experience with the weapon was seen in a much more acceptable light, though still by no means "good" in any way, shape or form. The Gladiator plant cranked out worse and worse quality weapons as the war dragged on, taking a toll on production, even though there were anomalies like the SIDARME plant that continued to manufacture very high-quality, finely made Chauchats throughout the later part of the war. Now, the American Chauchat M1918 would quality for designed for trench assaults, but that's mainly an adaption. It was a noble concept at least, the magazine issue was fixed, using an almost-straight 16-round box magazine, which still had a small window for viewing rounds, but one that was covered up when the magazine was placed in the well. The foregrip was moved to the other side of the magazine, and the buttstock sawed-down, creating a fairly modern-looking assault weapon. Unfortunately, though the thought was in the right place, Gladiator once again hosed things up considerably, botching the chamber measurements and tolerances, creating a weapon that could not handle the operating pressures of the .30-06 round. Creating a weapon that fires itself apart is always an awesome idea. They were disposed of before the war even ended.  That said, the French only designed three weapons for trench fighting, the RSC-1917 "Musket" short-barreled self-loading rifle, the Winchester 1907 "Volley-Fire" rifle, which was a Winchester 1907 in .351SLR issued with an extended magazine and factory-modified to be select fire-- which were issued to French troops and Serb partisans fighting on the Salonica front in 1918. The last weapon being the Ribeyrolles Mle 1918, which is arguably one of the first candidates to be considered an assault rifle, but only fails the test of being laid-out like a carbine, a weapon designed ground-up as an assault rifle, using 30-round magazines of 8mm Ribeyrolles, which was an intermediate .351SLR Winchester round necked down to accept 8mm Lebel armor-piercing bullets, and even came with a fancy light fold-out bipod at the front of the gun. It was considered to be too cumbersome for mass issue, and was relegated to a rather obscure existence at the end of the war. Just thought I'd address your post and expand on it a bit. I've got sort of a thing for WWI automatic weaponry 
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 10:13 |
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Pointless Adornment posted:Okay, going to take a couple issues with this post and expand on it. Very cool, I stand corrected. If you've got any info on any of the other early automatic designs I'd love ot hear it.
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| # ? Jul 11, 2008 11:16 |
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Pointless Adornment posted:
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Pointless Adornment posted:I like this kid. Although he may not be a kid. And is probably older than me.
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