SadWhaleFamily posted:

Now I wish I weren't a pussy liberal trying to score with the easy hippy/theatre chicks who hated guns when I went there.

SadWhaleFamily posted:

Now I wish I weren't a pussy liberal trying to score with the easy hippy/theatre chicks who hated guns when I went there.

Rifle team, you say? What rifles do they run with?

eine dose socken posted:

I am firmly convinced that all European armies should do this too- stop wasting tax money on new equipment and adjust older weapons and gear to suit their new requirements, instead of selling them off to some Third World regimes. Kinda like the french did with the FR F1 sniper rifles.

It would also lead to some totally awesome old/new hybrid weapons- imagine the Bundeswehr riding around in modified BMPs, sporting pimped out AK 74s and G3s.

Or the British army using FALs with folding stocks, ACOGs and lots of rails.

FirstPersonShitter posted:

Recently the british army has been talking about switching back to a 7.62x51 because of the huge ranges they're having to engage people at on average in afghanistan, so maybe we would've been better off keeping the FALs.

FirstPersonShitter posted:

Recently the british army has been talking about switching back to a 7.62x51 because of the huge ranges they're having to engage people at on average in afghanistan, so maybe we would've been better off keeping the FALs.

Secret Ooze posted:

...so I told them that I wasnt moving to another bench. Ive been to four benches during this visit and Im not going to move to another one. I had a nice view from my last bench, I could see the squirrels, and they were married...

iyaayas01 posted:

I was under the impression they had actually started doing this, rounding up FALs from the old armories and the like, kind of in the same way that the U.S. Army did with M-14s.

Fake edit: On second thought, I believe my "source" for this was a random column in a random gun mag, so take that for what it's worth...

Fang posted:

If that's the case, then it suggests that ballistics at range are a larger factor than accuracy, as FALs apparently aren't anything to write home about in that regard.

FirstPersonShitter posted:

I heard the average engagement distance has gone up to something crazy like 900 yards in afghanistan for british troops because the guys just stand at the edge of forests and fire into the army bases, so 5.56 drifts too much to really be effective, and they don't have enough sniper rifle equipped guys to handle all the insurgents/al quada/taliban. I might have the units wrong on that distance because 900 yards is an awfully long way, but it's what I heard from some pretty knowledgable people. I hope it's not one of those dumb myths.

FirstPersonShitter posted:

I heard the average engagement distance has gone up to something crazy like 900 yards in afghanistan for british troops because the guys just stand at the edge of forests and fire into the army bases, so 5.56 drifts too much to really be effective, and they don't have enough sniper rifle equipped guys to handle all the insurgents/al quada/taliban. I might have the units wrong on that distance because 900 yards is an awfully long way, but it's what I heard from some pretty knowledgable people. I hope it's not one of those dumb myths.

Young Freud posted:

That's bizarre, those looked more like archery stances than rifle ones.

BOrangeFury posted:

Still, I'd like to try that stance with a Garand. Stable, but dosn't seem to be optimal for mobility and such. I think the CMP still has competitions, do people actualy use this stance?

iyaayas01 posted:

Not necessarily that stance straight up, but yes, that type of awkward non-mobile but fairly stable stance is what you'd see at a bullseye rifle competition like Camp Perry.

Zefiel posted:

I-is that red thing like a golf bag, but for rifles??

Bogon posted:

I like turtles posted:

Diet coke.

Bogon posted:

Yea that is. But if you want to go all out you need to get the trike type baby strollers for complete Tacticlol.

Zefiel posted:

I-is that red thing like a golf bag, but for rifles??

That bullet holder is so boss, thought. Almost cute.

Ygolonac posted:

You should see the fancy cart the cowboy-action shooters have - miniature stagecoaches and suchlike. :3 (Also .)

I should snag a baby-cart next time I find one at the thrift store - it'd make hauling my poo poo from the car to the firing position easier, out at the shootin' hole. (BLM land, fenced/no unauthourised vehicles.)

I like turtles posted:

I'm too lazy to carry, so around the house, I just have a roomba programmed to follow me. There is a 1911 duct taped to the roomba. Safety and cleaning all at once.


Now I sort of want to get cheap RC cars, take off the shell fill it with tannerite and send them down range as moving targets.

thermobollocks posted:

Stick helium balloons on them. I've seen at least one trashy cop show on TV where they were using a red balloon and a green balloon on an R/C car as a hostage target.

I like turtles posted:

Diet coke.

Also, why is the guy in the background shopped in?

I like turtles posted:

Diet coke.

SO ANGRY posted:

We do that silly stance for the rifle range as well. Resting your non firing elbow on your ribs gives you a more stable firing stance, but for the combat shooting range we do that linebacker thing.

Bogon posted:

Yea that is. But if you want to go all out you need to get the trike type baby strollers for complete Tacticlol.

Polemides posted:

I always used that weird rest the handguard on your fist stance when I was in the 200 yard standing slowfire portion of the qual, I still don't know why

SO ANGRY posted:

Well regardless of how you do it, you're still standing straight up, so it's still going to be wibbly wobbly. Outside of 100 yards you won't hit poo poo standing anyways, especially in a combat environment, so it's kind of a moot point.

Cyrano4747 posted:

I'm not going to comment on the combat environment bit, since I have jack poo poo personal experience with that, but it's VERY possible to hit things beyond 100 yards while standing.

I like turtles posted:

Diet coke.

Cyrano4747 posted:

I'm not going to comment on the combat environment bit, since I have jack poo poo personal experience with that, but it's VERY possible to hit things beyond 100 yards while standing.

Not with any "well if you're an olympic grade marksman" caveats - if you know the fundamentals of shooting and have any kind of upper body strength and aren't shooting some hilariously heavy rifle, hitting things at 200 or 300 yards with a half-decent sling support is pretty doable.

Fang posted:

Some people prefer the taste of diet sodas to the sugary ones. Regular sodas are too sugary.