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MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010


NovemberMike posted:

It's seriously just a barrel shroud, though?

Yup. 15lb barrel shroud enclosing a free-floated barrel.

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CAT ON THE COUCH!!
Mar 30, 2009

Hark!! Yonder goon hast defamed a lady!! Fear not, CoTC to the rescue!!

lol ponytar


Wa11y posted:

I don't think a big heavy fore end would make a good barrel whip reducer. I could see it adding enough stress on the receiver to cause some problems in very short order.

Exactly. There's almost no amount of weight that you could add that would not either wind up as sprung weight that exacerbates the torque problem or is so heavy that it is pulling the barrel down.

moosepoop
Mar 9, 2007



They should make a starship trooper stock to drop your 10-22 into. Would make them a lot more money and would probably be fun as well in a silly way. This is just stupid.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

It's just. That. Simple.


Heintron posted:

They should make a starship trooper stock to drop your 10-22 into. Would make them a lot more money and would probably be fun as well in a silly way. This is just stupid.

I would buy a 10/22 if I could get a Morita rifle stock for it.

CanAm
Jan 4, 2009

Eh.


Young Freud posted:

For some reason, you missed the best picture...



This looks like the guns a kid would draw inside his notebook at school.

I think I DID draw this in my notebook at school, graph paper and all.

Ceros_X
Aug 6, 2006

US Marine


CanAm posted:

I think I DID draw this in my notebook at school, graph paper and all.

I did draw something like that in middle/high school?, in fact I still have it floating around in a folder..

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

It's just. That. Simple.


Probably every person who's posted in TFR at any time drew at least one gun while they were in school.

Ceros_X
Aug 6, 2006

US Marine


Shima Honnou posted:

Probably every person who's posted in TFR at any time drew at least one gun while they were in school.

Yeah but do you still have yours 14 years later?

chairface
Oct 28, 2007
No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Ceros_X posted:

Yeah but do you still have yours 14 years later?

Yeah brah but then I make it into a real 32 pound rifle add-on.

moosepoop
Mar 9, 2007



I still draw guns. I should post some.

Edit:

moosepoop fucked around with this message at May 27, 2012 around 07:37

Young Freud
Nov 25, 2006

My old avatar sucked anyway.

Now, I'm not knocking drawing the guns (or posting them on DeviantArt), but that drawing is probably one step up from "business idea on a napkin" in terms of how thought it is.

BTW, I've ran across my old guns I drew back in the day Not from high school, but just slightly after.



(oh, look, I included those horrible backup sights from the P90)



Nowadays, I do most of my fictional gun designs in 3D. Since finding those old guns, I've been updating them a bit while modeling them.



Haven't gotten to the weird in-grip carbine. Yet.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

So for my website, instead of producing some decent content,
I get to be CEO .

Obviously I get to whine and complain about free shit.

(I do this, and begging, a lot)



Oh god what are you doing to the AUG

Dr. Strangler
Jul 21, 2009

I 'snapped' and killed a bird and its baby purely because their chirping annoyed me. I got a buzz out of killing them both with one shot.

In other words, I have the mind of a serial killer.

My middle school doodles were more uhhhhhh




Edit yeargh tables

Dr. Strangler fucked around with this message at May 27, 2012 around 08:15

Young Freud
Nov 25, 2006

My old avatar sucked anyway.

SEKCobra posted:

Oh god what are you doing to the AUG

It's a Steyr ACRAUG

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

So for my website, instead of producing some decent content,
I get to be CEO .

Obviously I get to whine and complain about free shit.

(I do this, and begging, a lot)



Young Freud posted:

It's a Steyr ACRAUG

CanAm
Jan 4, 2009

Eh.


Young Freud posted:

It's a Steyr ACRAUG

More like Steyr UGH.

TheChaplain
Apr 22, 2002

God is just the start of your problems, neh?

Dr. Strangler posted:

My middle school doodles were more uhhhhhh

Wow... well, uh, TFR is definitely the place for anyone struggling with latent desires...

Oxford Comma
Jun 26, 2011



TheChaplain posted:

Wow... well, uh, TFR is definitely the place for anyone struggling with latent desires...

Sometimes TFR feels like a halfway house for those not quite ready to openly embrace the Fabgoons Megathread!

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010
I'm conducting an experiment to see if removing your shitty avatar will improve your shitty taste in black metal

Man, y'all draw so much better than I used to. I always wanted to draw, but I knew I was terrible and I couldn't figure out how to get better. I probably just needed to practice, but it was hard practicing when everything came out so badly.

Dr. Strangler
Jul 21, 2009

I 'snapped' and killed a bird and its baby purely because their chirping annoyed me. I got a buzz out of killing them both with one shot.

In other words, I have the mind of a serial killer.

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Man, y'all draw so much better than I used to. I always wanted to draw, but I knew I was terrible and I couldn't figure out how to get better. I probably just needed to practice, but it was hard practicing when everything came out so badly.

This saddens me because drawing is a personal thing and really shouldn't be compared to anything- there will always be somebody 'better', so why bother considering their output (except for the purpose of improving your own stuff.
Also, a lot of people who complain they can't get drawings to come out right tend to have a unique style with a ton of character but are hung up on making everything look "realistic."
I guess what I'm saying is draw more! Doodle constantly at work. Try new mediums on a whim. Draw from models or your imagination, and don't give a gently caress about what anybody else thinks. Its never too late!

TheChaplain
Apr 22, 2002

God is just the start of your problems, neh?

Oxford Comma posted:

Sometimes TFR feels like a halfway house for those not quite ready to openly embrace the Fabgoons Megathread!
I'd wager they wouldn't appreciate our antics.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



22 Eargesplitten posted:

Man, y'all draw so much better than I used to. I always wanted to draw, but I knew I was terrible and I couldn't figure out how to get better. I probably just needed to practice, but it was hard practicing when everything came out so badly.
If you want to feel better about your drawing ability, swing on over to deviantArt and look at all the lovely furry/sonic/anime poo poo that people post. On second though, don't. It'll just make you feel bad for other reasons.

QuarkMartial
Sep 25, 2004

I've seen the future, and it has hooves.

Dr. Strangler posted:

This saddens me because drawing is a personal thing and really shouldn't be compared to anything- there will always be somebody 'better', so why bother considering their output (except for the purpose of improving your own stuff.
Also, a lot of people who complain they can't get drawings to come out right tend to have a unique style with a ton of character but are hung up on making everything look "realistic."
I guess what I'm saying is draw more! Doodle constantly at work. Try new mediums on a whim. Draw from models or your imagination, and don't give a gently caress about what anybody else thinks. Its never too late!

While this is true, usually...

22 Eargesplitten posted:

I always wanted to draw, but I knew I was terrible and I couldn't figure out how to get better. I probably just needed to practice, but it was hard practicing when everything came out so badly and everyone made fun of you for it and art teachers said you sucked, too.

Is what happened to me. Now I just doodle boxes and letters.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010
I'm conducting an experiment to see if removing your shitty avatar will improve your shitty taste in black metal

Mad Dragon posted:

If you want to feel better about your drawing ability, swing on over to deviantArt and look at all the lovely furry/sonic/anime poo poo that people post. On second though, don't. It'll just make you feel bad for other reasons.
I've seen deviantart. The sonic fan art you're thinking of is about my level of artistic ability.

Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Man, y'all draw so much better than I used to. I always wanted to draw, but I knew I was terrible and I couldn't figure out how to get better. I probably just needed to practice, but it was hard practicing when everything came out so badly.

Lemme break this down for you: most artists hate their art, or at least some of their art. Art requires learning a medium, learning new nuances, trying techniques and methods you've never tried, and tweaking things that you don't like by repeating and trying to fix them, so basically, you're always going to be creating things you either don't like or aren't satisfied with. I can certainly sort of draw now, and model in wire or clay, but I'm still dissatisfied with a lot of things I create. It's part of the process and you've got to power on through despite the fact that in order to improve, you've got to create EVEN MORE things you're not satisfied with and try more things you're not comfortable with.

My grade school doodles SUCKED even by gradeschooler doodle standards, but eventually I just sort of said 'gently caress it' and started drawing all the drat time even though I thought all of it sucked, and now I only think most of my work sucks! Seriously though, it isn't too late to pick it up as a hobby, and if nothing else, doodling can empower you to supplement your verbal communication with some haphazard visuals. Just do it, persondude. Do it.

DeesGrandpa
Oct 21, 2009

Probably like King Nazi


NovemberMike
Dec 28, 2008


I'm sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with that fabulous gun.

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.


What's heartbreaking about that? Looks like an improvement to me.

Gtab
Dec 9, 2003

cop killer
cop killer
cop killer


who makes those aluminum baseplates

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010
I'm conducting an experiment to see if removing your shitty avatar will improve your shitty taste in black metal

Shady Amish Terror posted:

Lemme break this down for you: most artists hate their art, or at least some of their art. Art requires learning a medium, learning new nuances, trying techniques and methods you've never tried, and tweaking things that you don't like by repeating and trying to fix them, so basically, you're always going to be creating things you either don't like or aren't satisfied with. I can certainly sort of draw now, and model in wire or clay, but I'm still dissatisfied with a lot of things I create. It's part of the process and you've got to power on through despite the fact that in order to improve, you've got to create EVEN MORE things you're not satisfied with and try more things you're not comfortable with.

My grade school doodles SUCKED even by gradeschooler doodle standards, but eventually I just sort of said 'gently caress it' and started drawing all the drat time even though I thought all of it sucked, and now I only think most of my work sucks! Seriously though, it isn't too late to pick it up as a hobby, and if nothing else, doodling can empower you to supplement your verbal communication with some haphazard visuals. Just do it, persondude. Do it.
I think what I need to do is sign up for a basic art/drawing class at the community college. I did the same thing with a Creative Writing class and that's what got me to a writing level where I didn't stop writing for months because I'd come back the next day and couldn't stand to read what I'd put down on page.

DamienChilde
Sep 12, 2000
Forum Veteran


if: encouraging doodle talk

then: "I Don't Know Art, But I Know What I Like"

SEE WHAT HAPPENS

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

Did you see Regis this morning?

Faerunner posted:




Still rules.

Well now I just don't know what to think. I could actually bear owning a Neos if I painted it to look like a Zapper and made my targets look like 8-bit ducks.

edit: In no way was I implying the Neos is actually a crappy gun, as I've heard nothing but positive things about how they shoot. They just look like a child's space-gun. Which now that I think of it is probably half the appeal.

Terrible Robot fucked around with this message at May 29, 2012 around 03:02

Mister Sinewave
Feb 9, 2008

Unload Safely!
1. Fire into ceiling.
2. Count each round in screamed German.
3. Repeat until empty.

You really are a Terrible Robot if you're poo-pooing something because it looks all space gun

Vorlonesque
Sep 17, 2005

Killing planets since 1876

Terrible Robot posted:

Well now I just don't know what to think. I could actually bear owning a Neos if I painted it to look like a Zapper and made my targets look like 8-bit ducks.

edit: In no way was I implying the Neos is actually a crappy gun, as I've heard nothing but positive things about how they shoot. They just look like a child's space-gun. Which now that I think of it is probably half the appeal.

Its funny that I've had a ton of people respond to the Ruger MkIII 22/45 I used to have as "oh it looks just like the NES Zapper"...and looking at that I think the Neos looks even more like one.

Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(

22 Eargesplitten posted:

I think what I need to do is sign up for a basic art/drawing class at the community college. I did the same thing with a Creative Writing class and that's what got me to a writing level where I didn't stop writing for months because I'd come back the next day and couldn't stand to read what I'd put down on page.

This is a good idea, but do keep in mind art education has its own lingo. Art History and Art Appreciation teach you to judge, critique, and analyze art, and are pretty dry. Introduction to Art may be broken up into a practical and a theoretical component depending on the school, and you may spend a hell of a lot more time focusing on Elements and Principles more than actually creating things either way (example: the first assignment at my college's art intro course required spending $100 on paints and making a color wheel; the class only went downhill from there, and was a requirement for EVERY ART DEGREE, including 3D and digital medium degrees). If they offer something like a 100-level Introduction to Drawing or Ceramics or Painting class, that might be more open and interesting. I would try asking around or sitting in on a course first before committing the time and money.

All of that ranting aside, holy poo poo, that zapper gun is cooler than a superconducting coil. It's James Bond as poo poo.

Young Freud
Nov 25, 2006

My old avatar sucked anyway.

Shady Amish Terror posted:

This is a good idea, but do keep in mind art education has its own lingo. Art History and Art Appreciation teach you to judge, critique, and analyze art, and are pretty dry. Introduction to Art may be broken up into a practical and a theoretical component depending on the school, and you may spend a hell of a lot more time focusing on Elements and Principles more than actually creating things either way (example: the first assignment at my college's art intro course required spending $100 on paints and making a color wheel; the class only went downhill from there, and was a requirement for EVERY ART DEGREE, including 3D and digital medium degrees). If they offer something like a 100-level Introduction to Drawing or Ceramics or Painting class, that might be more open and interesting. I would try asking around or sitting in on a course first before committing the time and money.

Yeah, I think if I hadn't taken my 2D design class as my first art class, I probably wouldn't have gone for my BA in Art. The materials were cheap enough to allow for experimentation and the class covered a lot of the fundamentals. Also, teachers are important. When I took a drawing class for the first time, the instructor was a douchebag who was a big follower of the Pollack "splash paints down" method and hassled me for trying to sketch out or pre-plan work instead of having drawing automatically that I dropped the class. The next time, I got an instructor who focused heavier on fundamentals and had us do self-portraits and go out into the courtyard and sketch with charcoals, which was much easier.

Also, my 3D design class gave me a better appreciation for modern and installation art. It takes a poo poo load of effort to get simple-looking things just right. You might scoff if you see something like Damien Hirst and Donald Judd, but there's a lot that goes into installation artwork.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

Proč bychom se netěšili když nám Pán Bůh zdraví dá?


Young Freud posted:

Also, my 3D design class gave me a better appreciation for modern and installation art. It takes a poo poo load of effort to get simple-looking things just right. You might scoff if you see something like Damien Hirst and Donald Judd, but there's a lot that goes into installation artwork.

Then I'd call them master logisticians before I'd call them artists

Ceros_X
Aug 6, 2006

US Marine


I have found a whole new level of tacticlol: http://www.cbrps.com/Products.html

Akion
May 7, 2006
Being the one mother warned you about, since 1983.

Ceros_X posted:

I have found a whole new level of tacticlol: http://www.cbrps.com/Products.html



Wasn't somebody here building a Mosin based on one of these things?

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PCjr sidecar
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

Akion posted:

Wasn't somebody here building a Mosin based on one of these things?

one of the ausgüns iirc

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