Tacticlol -Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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a foolish pianist: May 6, 2007; deadlift minimalist

JEEVES420 posted:

I will bite; are you saying the only viable uses for a pistol are self defense or hunting?

I'm pretty sure he didn't say or imply that at all.

What he said was that he didn't know people hunted with pistols.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 00:17

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# ? May 19, 2013 17:29

oddspelling: May 31, 2009; Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

I feel so proud seeing the 'TacticLOL Ratio" in operation.

I think I'm going to cry...

I know! We should pick out a Greek letter to represent it. (Is Xi taken? Or maybe Omicron...)

# ? Dec 9, 2009 00:23

2pint: Dec 3, 2004

AAS-12 TLOL-SUV. Don't hurt 'em hammer.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 00:34

Pigsfeet on Rye: Oct 22, 2008; I'm meat on the hoof

oddspelling posted:

I know! We should pick out a Greek letter to represent it. (Is Xi taken? Or maybe Omicron...)

Once a firearm is branded as 'tacticLOL', it is forever stained with that reputation. Due to this, I nominate the Greek letter STIGMA to represent the TacticLOL Ratio.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 00:38

Tim Pawlenty: Jun 3, 2006

another 'why are your optics 5x the price of your gun' horror

# ? Dec 9, 2009 00:40

kuffs: Mar 29, 2007; Projectile Dysfunction

Furthermore, why would you use a dustcover-mounted optic?

# ? Dec 9, 2009 00:44

JEEVES420: Feb 16, 2005; The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

2pint posted:

AAS-12 TLOL-SUV. Don't hurt 'em hammer.

You would think they could come up with some form of belt fed shotgun for a vehicle mount. I guess 40 rounds of 00 will disperse a crowd rather quickly; it just seems limited for a vehicle mounted weapon.

12 gauge mini gun would be amazing.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 00:54

oddspelling: May 31, 2009; Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

Once a firearm is branded as 'tacticLOL', it is forever stained with that reputation. Due to this, I nominate the Greek letter STIGMA to represent the TacticLOL Ratio.

YES!

Gay Black Fascist posted:

another 'why are your optics 5x the price of your gun' horror

Mmmmkay, the optics appear to be these, so a=950 (I added $50 for the rail), and c= ~$200; therefor x(stigma)= 4.75!

# ? Dec 9, 2009 00:56

Mister Sinewave: Feb 9, 2008; Unload Safely!
1. Fire into ceiling.
2. Count each round in screamed German.
3. Repeat until empty.

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

Once a firearm is branded as 'tacticLOL', it is forever stained with that reputation. Due to this, I nominate the Greek letter STIGMA to represent the TacticLOL Ratio.

Beaten, but I want to make sure you know this is brilliant.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 01:42

2pint: Dec 3, 2004

JEEVES420 posted:

You would think they could come up with some form of belt fed shotgun for a vehicle mount. I guess 40 rounds of 00 will disperse a crowd rather quickly; it just seems limited for a vehicle mounted weapon.

12 gauge mini gun would be amazing.

Yeah - mounting those on the roof w/o a manual turret, instead a remote-aim and no visible optical targeting system - seems like it would be a shoot-and-adjust-fire method - you'd burn through the drums fast.

Why not use a Mk 19 Grenade Launcher instead? Cost is the only thing I can think of.

Oh well, it looks like a testbed anyway.

Content - the Apache - knuckes, spike, revolver:

And one of Saddam's trophy AKs:

# ? Dec 9, 2009 03:12

Uncle Caveman: Jun 16, 2006

The gold-plated AK gets posted a lot, but let's be honest with ourselves:

If we could, we would.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 03:49

Mister Sinewave: Feb 9, 2008; Unload Safely!
1. Fire into ceiling.
2. Count each round in screamed German.
3. Repeat until empty.

Completely by accident I ran across the fact that Pimp My Gun was being pushed about on The Escapist's forums. At least some of them appear to be completely serious about the jokes of guns they come up with.

This is a "post pictures" thread but if the kind of thinking in the following excerpt isn't the heart of TacticLOL I don't know what is:

The Escapist Forums posted:

Well, that's annoying.

No Colt 1911, any version. [Editor's note: ]

I wanted to make a 1911 with shoulder stock like the Dragunov, extend the frame forwards, give it a front grip with a bit of slope so you won't twist your wrist out of shape holding it up, put a fast-target-picture-acquisition 1x40 scope on it and replace the barrel with a design like the silenced Sten, maybe 12" with a lot of vents in the front 3", then a 6" sleeve over it that vents from its rear 2" into an outer sleeve that vents from the front so you won't deafen yourself firing it indoors without ear defenders, and finally put two spare magazines into housings in the stock so you only have to pick up one item when you hear the front door crash in.

In the absense of a .45, I had to start with a Gun which shall not be named, assume it was the .44 Magnum version and declare the invention of a whole new round with the same external dimensions as a .44 Magnum and the same or lower peak pressure at any position in the weapon but a heavier projectile and subsonic muzzle velocity. Make it a ball round with a thick jacket and you've got a cannonball that'll go through a bear. Make it a PowRBall and you've got something that'll open up like a banana peel and rock an intruder backwards like he fired it in a locked-arms isosceles stance then spray his spleen over the wall. Make it a Glaser and you've actually got enough weight in there for it to blow through its own expansion cavity and turn his vital organs to mincemeat.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 04:08

Propagandalf: Dec 6, 2008; itchy itchy itchy itchy

2pint posted:

AAS-12 TLOL-SUV. Don't hurt 'em hammer.

So for meeting tacticlol criteria, does the car count as an accessory? Is the car mounted to the guns, or are the guns mounted to the car?

The car is a machine gun.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 04:31

Young Freud: Nov 25, 2006; My old avatar sucked anyway.

2pint posted:

Yeah - mounting those on the roof w/o a manual turret, instead a remote-aim and no visible optical targeting system - seems like it would be a shoot-and-adjust-fire method - you'd burn through the drums fast.

Why not use a Mk 19 Grenade Launcher instead? Cost is the only thing I can think of.

Oh well, it looks like a testbed anyway.

Isn't this being billed as an active protection system? I remember the Russians have this thing called Arena and the Israelis have a similar system called Trophy, both of which are fire off screens of buckshot to defeat missiles. I can see something like this being a cheaper alternative, especially for retrofitting civilian vehicles for convoy duty.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 05:02

Tom Guycot: Oct 15, 2008; Chief of Governors

JEEVES420 posted:

I will bite; are you saying the only viable uses for a pistol are self defense or hunting?

Well... wasn't trying to send out a line. Honestly I didn't know people used handguns for any hunting. Like I said I don't know much about guns in general. But on that point... what other uses are there for a gun besides self defense (offense), hunting, or just having target practice fun?

# ? Dec 9, 2009 07:14

walrusman: Aug 4, 2006; Ride the rainbow

Tom Guycot posted:

Well... wasn't trying to send out a line. Honestly I didn't know people used handguns for any hunting. Like I said I don't know much about guns in general. But on that point... what other uses are there for a gun besides self defense (offense), hunting, or just having target practice fun?

Well, competition...but that's really just a form of practice for either defense or hunting.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 07:39

joehonkie: Jan 12, 2006; I'm a member of STARS.

walrusman posted:

Well, competition...but that's really just a form of practice for either defense or hunting.

According to Homer Simpson you can use it to open your beer and turn off your TV and your lights.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 15:22

Naramyth: Jan 22, 2009; Your post is bad and you should feel bad.

Mister Sinewave posted:

Beaten, but I want to make sure you know this is brilliant.

I don't get it.

Uncle Caveman posted:

The gold-plated AK gets posted a lot, but let's be honest with ourselves:

If we could, we would.

In a god drat heartbeat.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 16:34

Mister Sinewave: Feb 9, 2008; Unload Safely!
1. Fire into ceiling.
2. Count each round in screamed German.
3. Repeat until empty.

Naramyth posted:

I don't get it.

The part about using the Greek letter Stigma (to represent the TacticLOL factor) being awesome? Using STIGMA to symbolize the TacticLOL ratio seems particularly brilliant because:

* There is a formula for calculating the TacticLOL ratio of a given firearm (cost of accessories) / (base cost of firearm) = TacticLOL ratio. If over 2.1, then firearm is TacticLOL.
* It's hip to represent math stuff - for example the money shot of a formula - with cool greek letters
* "Once a firearm is branded as 'tacticLOL', it is forever stained with that reputation" (i.e. 'stigmatized')

# ? Dec 9, 2009 17:32

Pigsfeet on Rye: Oct 22, 2008; I'm meat on the hoof

Mister Sinewave posted:

The part about using the Greek letter Stigma (to represent the TacticLOL factor) being awesome? Using STIGMA to symbolize the TacticLOL ratio seems particularly brilliant because:

* There is a formula for calculating the TacticLOL ratio of a given firearm (cost of accessories) / (base cost of firearm) = TacticLOL ratio. If over 2.1, then firearm is TacticLOL.
* It's hip to represent math stuff - for example the money shot of a formula - with cool greek letters
* "Once a firearm is branded as 'tacticLOL', it is forever stained with that reputation" (i.e. 'stigmatized')

As an engineer, I thought immediately of the Greek alphabet when I was reading the posts about the TacticLOL Ratio. I looked on Wikipedia to see what was available, and when I saw the letter Stigma I burst out laughing over the double meaning and went with it.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 17:40

Ygolonac: Nov 26, 2007; FURRED STREET,
BITCHES!

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

As an engineer, I thought immediately of the Greek alphabet when I was reading the posts about the TacticLOL Ratio. I looked on Wikipedia to see what was available, and when I saw the letter Stigma I burst out laughing over the double meaning and went with it.

So, the Ultra High Speed Low Drag Operator Operator wearing a balclava or shemagh over his/her face, fully gear-queer'd out and packing the Maximum Tacti

Gun (as sponsored by Tapco), would be...

... wait for it ...

THE STIGMA

# ? Dec 9, 2009 17:54

TheStig: Jan 3, 2009; Just need to mount the guns on the car....

Ygolonac posted:

So, the Ultra High Speed Low Drag Operator Operator wearing a balclava or shemagh over his/her face, fully gear-queer'd out and packing the Maximum Tacti Gun (as sponsored by Tapco), would be...

... wait for it ...

THE STIGMA

I don't like the way this is going...

# ? Dec 9, 2009 17:58

televiper: Feb 12, 2007; WE'RE ONTO YOU.

TheStig posted:

I don't like the way this is going...

my mind was forming a joke involving your avatar, but not quickly enough apparently :\

# ? Dec 9, 2009 17:59

2pint: Dec 3, 2004

Uncle Caveman posted:

The gold-plated AK gets posted a lot, but let's be honest with ourselves:

If we could, we would.

Personally, gold plating = meh.

Saddam had crates full of them and probably gave them out like watches.

But - have you ever seen a gold-plated Sterling:

# ? Dec 9, 2009 18:53

Sixgun Strumpet: Feb 16, 2009; I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

How about a gold plated. What the gently caress is this thing?

# ? Dec 9, 2009 19:18

joehonkie: Jan 12, 2006; I'm a member of STARS.

ChlorineTrifluoride posted:

How about a gold plated. What the gently caress is this thing?

If it can't be broken down into a pen and a lighter and whatnot for concealment, I don't want one.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 19:19

The Automator: Jan 16, 2009; I was like Oatmeal, are you CRAZY?!?

ChlorineTrifluoride posted:

How about a gold plated. What the gently caress is this thing?

Looks like a paintball gun to me.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 19:22

JEEVES420: Feb 16, 2005; The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

The Automator posted:

Looks like a paintball gun to me.

Automag paintball gun. Funny they didnt plate the bottom half.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 19:26

TheStig: Jan 3, 2009; Just need to mount the guns on the car....

televiper posted:

my mind was forming a joke involving your avatar, but not quickly enough apparently :\

I'l help you with a new avatar.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 19:55

oddspelling: May 31, 2009; Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

Ygolonac posted:

So, the Ultra High Speed Low Drag Operator Operator wearing a balclava or shemagh over his/her face, fully gear-queer'd out and packing the Maximum Tacti Gun (as sponsored by Tapco), would be...

... wait for it ...

THE STIGMA

"Some say he puts his jumpsuit through the wash while he's still in it. And that his breath is as fresh as a summer ham... all we know is: he's called the Stigma."

# ? Dec 9, 2009 20:25

Crunkjuice: Apr 4, 2007; That could've gotten in my eye!
*launches teargas at unarmed protestors*

I THINK OAKLAND PD'S USE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE WAS JUSTIFIED!

JEEVES420 posted:

Automag paintball gun. Funny they didnt plate the bottom half.

Actually its a minimag, but basically the same.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 20:26

ArcMage: Sep 14, 2007; That's it! That's what this post smells like!

Crunkjuice posted:

Actually its a minimag, but basically the same.

go phantom or go home

# ? Dec 9, 2009 21:29

TheStig: Jan 3, 2009; Just need to mount the guns on the car....

ArcMage posted:

go Autococker or go home

Fixed for you.

There are two guns in paintball, cockers and everything else.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 22:33

kwantam: Mar 25, 2008; -=kwantam

TheStig posted:

There are two guns in paintball, cockers and everything else.

You cockersuckers and automaggots. I was OGing it up with my Air Power Vector while you were still making GBS threads your Tippmann 98s and tricked out Spyders.

(goddamn it's been a while)

# ? Dec 9, 2009 22:38

JEEVES420: Feb 16, 2005; The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Crunkjuice posted:

Actually its a minimag, but basically the same.

I havent played paintball in over 12 years, I am surprised I remember it was a mag anything.

TheStig posted:

Fixed for you.

There are two guns in paintball, cockers and everything else.

Played with a cocker once and the stupid overly complicated gas system kept blowing a hose. When the other team figured out what that sound was I got bunkered quite a bit.

I played with a Spyder with an exposed bolt. I could fire that thing faster than the Angles and other full autos on the scene at the time. I would rest the tank on my shoulder and bounce my index finger off the trigger guard and trigger.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 22:39

TheStig: Jan 3, 2009; Just need to mount the guns on the car....

kwantam posted:

You cockersuckers and automaggots. I was OGing it up with my Air Power Vector while you were still making GBS threads your Tippmann 98s and tricked out Spyders.

(goddamn it's been a while)

You act like the cocker is new, they were rolling in the '80s along with your MP5 wannabe cocker knockoff.

JEEVES420 posted:

I havent played paintball in over 12 years, I am surprised I remember it was a mag anything.

Played with a cocker once and the stupid overly complicated gas system kept blowing a hose. When the other team figured out what that sound was I got bunkered quite a bit.

I played with a Spyder with an exposed bolt. I could fire that thing faster than the Angles and other full autos on the scene at the time. I would rest the tank on my shoulder and bounce my index finger off the trigger guard and trigger.

A poor craftsman blames his tools.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 22:41

JEEVES420: Feb 16, 2005; The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

TheStig posted:

You act like the cocker is new, they were rolling in the '80s along with your MP5 wannabe cocker knockoff.

A poor craftsman blames his tools.

It was a friends I borrowed when I broke my trigger spring shooting like I described

# ? Dec 9, 2009 22:43

Mtmd: Dec 29, 2008

Unfortunately they no longer make cockers. Or automags. Or pretty much anything that isn't patented by Smart Parts for that matter.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 22:45

kwantam: Mar 25, 2008; -=kwantam

TheStig posted:

You act like the cocker is new, they were rolling in the '80s along with your MP5 wannabe cocker knockoff.

Yeah, I know, I just wanted to be old and fist-shakey.

But the Vector was more reliable at sucking liquid.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 22:56

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# ? May 19, 2013 17:29

infrared35: Jan 12, 2005

kwantam posted:

You cockersuckers and automaggots. I was OGing it up with my Air Power Vector while you were still making GBS threads your Tippmann 98s and tricked out Spyders.

(goddamn it's been a while)

You kids. I was playing paintball when Splatmasters were brand new.

That poo poo is actually listed as "vintage" on eBay.

# ? Dec 9, 2009 22:56

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