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I got nervous and pre-emptively goonrushed
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 23:02 |
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It looks to me like there is nothing related to that pattern on her deviantart page anymore, unless I am totally blind. vvv I tried to find a "like" button for your post. Facebook has ruined me.
Fire In The Disco fucked around with this message at Oct 12, 2011 around 00:03 |
| # ? Oct 11, 2011 23:25 |
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I clicked the link, and it said that page doesn't exist, so I guess she took it down? Edit:
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 23:58 |
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It appears as though she has taken down the submission and erased everything. After she hid my first comment I just decided to rip her a new one as tactfully as I could, called her a coward and a hypocrite, especially since she considers herself an artist as well and all of her pages/submissions have things like "do not steal my work!!" prominently displayed on them. She sent me an apology earlier this evening: "I apologize for not replying before, but I was in a rush before work. As for hiding the comments, I do that often so I also apologize if that offended you. I never tried to hide anything, but I'm sorry for selling the doll and will never do it again. I'm currently trying to raise money for vacation, and was hoping selling the doll would help with that. I don't mean to go behind anyone's back, that was never my intention. I don't want to say "I hope you can forgive me", but more like "I hope you can't not hate me", because I'm sure you do. I do feel really bad, and I feel like I'm just being all rambley and apologizing all over the place, but yeah. I am sorry." It kind of sounds like a lot of BS: there's really no evidence of her "hiding comments often" and there'd be no reason for her to do that when you can just preemptively disable comments on submissions. She was well aware before she ever listed it on Etsy that I specifically ask people not to sell the finished product but she did it anyway and she knows she hosed up, she just thought nobody would notice. But I think I got my point across to her so I'm not gonna drag it out any further, I'm just trying to think of a way to reply tactfully and stay firm on the matter. Sorry to drag my dirty laundry in here guys, I was just at a loss for what to do and I was especially pissed because you all helped me out with that pattern a lot and it feels like more of a group effort to me. Thank you for the goonrush, you make me feel all warm and fuzzy. Berryblood - I'm sorry to hear about your pets , 1 is bad enough but 2 in 2 weeks is rough I lost one of my own 2 weeks ago myself and it still sucks. I am sure your third will enjoy her afghan for a long time to come!
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 01:14 |
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It's the size of a throw, not overly big but my 3 year old niece grabbed it when it was 2/3rd done and used it as a towel after a bath and was able to get it all the way around. I was too busy filming and laughing to stop her because that's what you do when it's not your kid. Take pictures and enjoy the moment.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 02:21 |
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Well, I'm a bit sad that I missed all the action as it was going down, but I'm glad to hear that things have more or less been rectified Shark farts. The Mythbusters throw is amazing! It makes me want one really hard, but I highly doubt my patience for such a big project. SassySally, your cow bag is great and I really like how you've incorporated the eyes as buttons. It's a great design, did you make it yourself? Also Shark farts, that octopus is really cute and I think we all need more cephalopods in our lives! I've recently made one as well, but he's super tiny. ![]() I know it's not a great picture, but I only had my phone on me and didn't bother getting more than one before I gave it away. Oh and Shark farts, that pattern you created for Toothless is a god-send. My sister's been wanting a crochet doll of him forever, but I've never made that complex a pattern before and was really struggling with it. I think she'll be more than over-joyed with this little cutie. ^^
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 03:33 |
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Omg that itty bitty octopus is adorable. Is reminds me of the octoroks from Zelda! I imagine it popping out of some water somewhere and going PTOO!! (if no one knows what I am talking about I am going to feel dumb) I'm glad you like the pattern! It's not complex, it can just be tedious since it has anywhere from 17-21 pieces to put together depending on how many fins you put on him, so just find a comfy chair, sit back and take your time haha. I hope she likes him Man I want a Mythbusters blanket. And a cow bag. The cow's ears are so cute and gigantic! I would love to make a bag like that with a big tongue sticking out but I don't know if it would interfere with how it closed.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 14:25 |
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I still have more to wrap up on Mythbusters but I'm now getting a craving for some Python. I need some opinions though, I would like to make an afghan out of this:![]() So I ran it through http://www.microrevolt.org/knitPro/ and I can't decide if or how I will chop it up. This is the medium size of which I will probably use as a test, I'll make this one and then decide. But is the resolution ok? ![]() but this one is better; I'm not sure I want the finished product to be massive so I'll have to definitely try one out.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 19:56 |
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Octoroks rock, Shark farts and if people don't get it, they're the lame ones, not you. I like the first one, I think it looks good and will translate well. The second one does have more detail, but I don't think that's really necessary because what you're really going for is the feeling of movement, right? EDIT: That is a deadly, dangerous program that wants to suck me into intricate, tapestry style projects that I really don't have time for. o.o LevelC fucked around with this message at Oct 12, 2011 around 20:16 |
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McBeth posted:Python. What method are you planning to use to put this together? Not granny squares, I hope. I would think this would be doable with Tunisian Crochet. There were some pretty good tutorials linked earlier in the thread for how to get cool designs in Tunisian Crochet.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 20:29 |
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Julet Esqu posted:What method are you planning to use to put this together? Not granny squares, I hope. I would think this would be doable with Tunisian Crochet. There were some pretty good tutorials linked earlier in the thread for how to get cool designs in Tunisian Crochet. Yup tunisian crochet. I'm still deciding if I want to keep it black and white or not. McBeth fucked around with this message at Oct 12, 2011 around 21:19 |
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SassySally posted:This is hilarious and awesome
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 21:12 |
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Aaah, there is always such good stuff going on in this thread! I love the Mythbusters afghan. Completely awesome. And Sharkfarts, glad you got sorted out - there is way too much of this ripping off going on. I don't know what gets into people. Finally had the time to make something original which I'm pleased with - please meet Ellyot. ![]() Ellyot, all finished by SeawoodDesigns, on Flickr He's for the next issue of the Crafteroo Magazine so his pattern will be available in January if anyone fancies giving him a whirl.
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| # ? Oct 13, 2011 09:29 |
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So hey, the plagiarist has raised a question about the etiquette/ethics of selling things made from others' patterns. Shark Farts, you used the word "profit" when referring to selling things made from a free pattern. Do you mean sale for actual profit, or do you mean just plain sale? I'm opening this question up to everyone. In my eyes, I can see it being reasonable to sell something for the price of materials/shipping if it's made from someone else's pattern, but I can see if people would be offended by that as well. What's everyone's take on that?
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| # ? Oct 16, 2011 19:18 |
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I think it seems perfectly reasonable to make something from a free pattern and just charge for the cost of materials and shipping! That's just me though, I don't know how other people would feel about that. Similarly, I can't be mad at somebody who makes one IRL for a friend/family member/etc. and is reimbursed for their materials/time/effort and makes a profit, it's only fair and I can't really stop anybody from doing that. But there's something about putting it for sale publicly on Etsy with a pricetag of $50+ that crosses the line for me, though I can't put into words why it bothers me I hope I'm not unreasonable for asking people not to sell it in the same manner that that person did! I don't wanna seem like a jerk.
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| # ? Oct 16, 2011 20:19 |
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The reimbursement for time/materials when making something seems fair. I think the question of profitability arises when one is clearly looking to seek income level gain on a product that is not originally theirs. There's a big difference in asking to be compensated for time and if the project is large it would have an equivalent cost, but such things should be reserved for specifically ordered items I think. I think it is soliciting in a completely different way. Not to mention is severe copy-right infringement. If we get into technicalities the pattern itself is copy-right infringement, but as it was posted for no profit and the number of people with the capacity for reproduction are relatively low it's not going to be considered an issue. You can bet Dreamworks would pitch a fit about someone selling unofficial Toothless dolls for $50+. Also, does anyone else think that amount is completely ridiculous?
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| # ? Oct 17, 2011 01:18 |
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I agree with you two. I think it's total bullshit for someone to make that kind of profit off a pattern they didn't write, and I would never pay $50 for a stuffed animal. If Etsy, the rest of the internet, and certain boutique stores are any indication, though, it's not insane to get that kind of money for it. For a legitimate product, I couldn't begrudge anyone for getting that for it. One thing to consider though is that any of you who sell things you make probably vastly under price your labor and expertise for a couple of reasons. Partly, people are so used to clothing and home goods that are made with third world labor that they balk at the price of first world labor, and partly because we crafters tend to underestimate our ability or how cool the rest of the world finds our skills. Most if not all of you know someone who thinks what you do is amazingly complicated even when you're doing something that isn't. I made three rainbow-colored cock socks for a gag-gift that a coworker wanted to give her friends. It used maybe 2 dollars worth of cheap rear end acrylic yarn I had lying around. Had I needed to buy the yarn it would have cost more, because we're talking 8 colors and you can't buy tiny skeins of the cheap crap. She paid me what she thought they were worth, which was apparently $20. I wouldn't have asked for that, ever, although when I consider the time and the fact that I'm the only person she knew who would/could make those (they had cute little doily-inspired edgings), it sounds fair. I made a little over minimum wage for those.
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| # ? Oct 17, 2011 04:25 |
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![]() Tunisian crochet always squishes the image, I hate that. I just need to figure out what % so I can stretch stuff beforehand. It's also hard to tell as you are going if the silhouette is right until after and then you gotta use a darning needle and fill stuff in...
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| # ? Oct 18, 2011 16:00 |
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People can sell anything they make from any pattern. Take a look on the Main 6 boards on Ravelry and you'll find people being really upset that someone sold something using their pattern and a bunch of lawyers telling them that there's nothing legally wrong with that. You can say whatever you want in your pattern about not selling it or selling it with permission or certain guidelines but that's not legally binding. People don't have to ask permission, they don't have to respect requests to not sell finished objects, they don't have to give the pattern writer any credit. It's a risk you have to accept when you put a pattern out there--whether it's free or not. Mostly people will respect your wishes. But there's a chance someone won't and they'll do things that aren't so awesome. There's really nothing to be done about it except to never share your work. shark farts, look at how many people you made happy with this one pattern. I'm sure lots of other people were thrilled to find it and have made Toothlesses that make them smile and have given them as gifts that are already well-loved. Then there's this one jerk on etsy. Don't let the one jerk get to you. You made something awesome. Lots of somethings, actually. And they've been enjoyed and appreciated. As for the price--that's why I don't plan on selling anything I make. If I charged for materials and my time the cost would be too high. I crochet slowly most of the time. If I do sell anything, I'm not going to disrespect myself, the craft, or other crafters by not charging what my time is worth. I don't think most people would be willing to pay what the price would be because most people don't get the whole time/skill thing. If I were making something for a friend or family member and they insisted on paying, I'd charge for materials only but that's different than selling on etsy, in a craft show, or along those lines. I wish I had the nerve to sell toys for $50. But I wouldn't make toys based on someone else's property and I'd use a pattern that didn't say anything about not selling finished objects. Because I'm not that much of a bitch. Or at least I wouldn't do it online. If I could get away with selling something for $50 on the craft black market, I wouldn't care what the pattern is for or who wrote it. I'm sorry, crochet pattern writers. But you'll never know because the craft black market doesn't leave a paper trail.
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| # ? Oct 20, 2011 03:07 |
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What happened to the yarn swap thread? I finally have time this weekend to photograph and put up my yarn... Well, I have lots of crochet thread and lightweight yarn if anyone is interested. I'm looking for essentially anything worsted weight, but especially cotton.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 18:14 |
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SassySally posted:What happened to the yarn swap thread? I finally have time this weekend to photograph and put up my yarn... It died due to lack of interest. I was thinking of restarting it after Christmas. By then we'll all be knee-deep in leftover Christmas project yarn!
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| # ? Oct 24, 2011 15:47 |
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Just started on an argyle scarf for my friend's birthday:![]() I'm using this pattern. It's really easy to work through quickly; I just finished the third diamond last night. I also just finished a hat for the same friend, but I forgot to take a picture of him wearing it!
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| # ? Oct 28, 2011 08:42 |
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Love the Argyle pattern!!! I am trying to make fishnets for my roller derby and am using this pattern. http://www.crazycoley.net/2009/07/july-sock.html This is my first attempt at making socks and I'm getting hung up on the heel part. Could anybody demystify it for me. It's just not computing.
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| # ? Oct 28, 2011 15:05 |
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Last night I was working on my niece's blanket, which is mainly black (and hard to photograph), and I decided that I needed to take a break and make something colorful. So I got a bunch of tiny balls of scrap Simply Soft together (and some half used skeins) and started to make a throw pillow:![]() ![]() All I have left to do is make a pillow insert and close it up, which should be pretty easy. It's fufilling to make something so bright and pretty so quickly!
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| # ? Oct 29, 2011 05:10 |
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Argh! I have a TON of Christmas projects to start not to mention finish and everyone keeps posting pictures of really awesome patterns. ;_; I'll have to wait, but I'm bookmarking both the scarf and the fishnet stocking pattern. I'll just sit down after Christmas and make myself a bunch of clothing. XD I've got a skirt on the hooks as we speak. Also, that pillow looks great, Awesomonster. ^^
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| # ? Oct 30, 2011 01:44 |
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This post is only loosely related to crochet. I got creative and made something! I was bored of the plain black/red/blue/white backgrounds for my photography lightbox, so I decided to purchase some fabric and make some new backgrounds for the set. It took me all night to make these 5 backdrops, but they came out great. ![]() From left to right, they are Realtree AP, Woodland Digital camo, ACU (Army Combat Uniform) Digital camo (ripstop), Desert camo (ripstop), and Woodland camo. They all have a strip of fuzzy velcro at the top to attach to the lightbox. I used the hell out of my sewing machine - so much that I had to change out the bobbin and refill the thread spool before I could work on anything else. Then I got even more creative and made something else! ![]() After sleeping for most of the day, I had a Great Idea. I used the left over ACU Digital and Desert camo ripstop fabrics and made a simple, durable drawstring bag, topping it off with some ACU Digital paracord and a spring toggle. I plan to use the bag to store the paracord I turn into stuff like this: ![]() This is an example of a paracord bracelet design I am working on to sell on my web store. So how is any of this related to crochet? I'm glad you asked! - I'll eventually be taking pictures of stuff on the backgrounds I made. - I needed something to store the paracord in I could empty my 'current project' box so I can start another crochet scarf for a customer order. - The bracelets are sold on the same site where you can purchase crocheted goods. You guys have always been supportive and receptive to my projects, whether it's crochet or not... and since I haven't posted much of what I've been working on lately, I decided to share.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2011 05:12 |
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TacticalGranny posted:I plan to use the bag to store the paracord I turn into stuff like this: Got to admit, this makes me want to send my husband hunting through the mounds of army surplus they have hiding around the ranch "just in case" and try and mess around with it. Currently attacking this: http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/lib...g-crab-comeback Just started the first of the 2 big claws, after they're done it's eye time and then stuffing and attaching. This is a christmas gift for my niece, who no longer has room for stuffed animals on her bed, shelves, and pet nets all because of my christmas presents.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 05:02 |
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Here is a thing that I have been doing
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| # ? Nov 1, 2011 05:16 |
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Sup crochet thread look what I just finished:![]() ![]() ![]() It was my first project! I started it in September so that I would have it done by Christmas... oh well, better super early than late at all.
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| # ? Nov 1, 2011 11:43 |
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Philo posted:Here is a thing that I have been doing Ah! The beginnings of the cathedral rose afghan. It's a pretty cool pattern. I'm hoping to make one someday.
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| # ? Nov 2, 2011 01:27 |
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Tesla Insanely Coil posted:Ah! The beginnings of the cathedral rose afghan. It's a pretty cool pattern. I'm hoping to make one someday. It is also, like, ridiculously easy for how good it looks. The pattern isn't written particularly well, but it is easy enough to figure out. I'm probably going to stop this one after this next part and not make the third section because I would rather put my future efforts into one that looks like this instead
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| # ? Nov 2, 2011 02:33 |
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That's lovely. Which yarns are you using? I like the idea of varigated yarns for this project - my daughters talked me into some King Cole Riot for their annual Christmas hats and it's very nice to work with, I bet it would look and feel great with that pattern. Costly, though, it's £4.50 a ball...
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| # ? Nov 3, 2011 12:34 |
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So I mentioned earlier that I just finished a hat for my best friend...and here he is wearing it proudly!![]() (disclaimer: friend does not actually glow in real life, my phone's flash just washes the gently caress out of white skin) I gave it to him just in time for our first blizzard of the season. He was much appreciative.
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| # ? Nov 5, 2011 07:15 |
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discordiaskitten posted:That's lovely. Which yarns are you using? I like the idea of varigated yarns for this project - my daughters talked me into some King Cole Riot for their annual Christmas hats and it's very nice to work with, I bet it would look and feel great with that pattern. Costly, though, it's £4.50 a ball... All of the colors are Red Heart Super Saver. I was prepared to buy nice yarn, but I couldn't find any brightly colored varigated yarns at my local craft store. The black is Caron One Pound (I've used the whole pound)
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| # ? Nov 6, 2011 23:57 |
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I made my first doll clothes today! ![]() After I finished that, I decided to make her a little dress, too. It's a little too big, but it's better than the too-small Bratz clothes she was wearing in the first pic.
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| # ? Nov 9, 2011 06:57 |
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Grape Juice Vampire posted:I made my first doll clothes today! I love the dress! Is that an Obitsu?
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| # ? Nov 9, 2011 17:13 |
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Yes, actually. After reading the Ask/Tell thread about wigmaking/doll customization I looked into getting one. My friend just so happened to have two in his basement that he wasn't using, so I took 'em.
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| # ? Nov 9, 2011 21:58 |
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Grape Juice Vampire posted:Yes, actually. After reading the Ask/Tell thread about wigmaking/doll customization I looked into getting one. My friend just so happened to have two in his basement that he wasn't using, so I took 'em. Lucky! The Obitsu doll I want is out of stock on Junky Spot, so now I have to decide if I want to wait longer or if I want to shell out $20 shipping from Paradox.
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| # ? Nov 9, 2011 22:33 |
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I dressed my two year old up as Calvin and made him a Hobbes for Halloween. ![]() pattern from here hobbes pettern
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Khisareth posted:I dressed my two year old up as Calvin and made him a Hobbes for Halloween. That Hobbes looks mighty fine! Exceptional work. ^^ Every child should be so lucky as to have one.
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