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Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch




Since the old thread is dead and gone and people are starting to fill up the standard PS3 thread this one is for all of the discussion and organization of all PSN game sharing.

Holy poo poo! What is game sharing?
Most games on PSN, once purchased, allow you to download them on up to five different PS3s. This means that when you buy something and download it if you share your account info with four of your friends they can download it too! No this isn't illegal as Sony wants as many people as possible to play their games. Besides if five people get together to buy a game none of them were in the first place then that's still one more sale! But enough talk, have at you!

You said most games are sharable. Some aren't?
As of right now the only games that you can't share is Warhawk but that's loving awesome and you should buy it anyway.



OK, I've got some people that want to share a game. What's the easiest way to do this?
From my experience the quickest and easiest way to get a game share going is to follow these steps.

As the share starter/game purchaser:
  • Collect money from the rest of your deadbeat friends before giving out the goods. The easiest way for this to happen is to just have them PayPal you their portion of the charge. For example if five people want to buy Siren and 1942 ($50 total) each of your four friends should send the you + something extra to cover PayPal fees.
  • Create a new email address somewhere on a throwaway site. Something like Gmail, Yahoo, or Hotmail. You need a unique email address to create the new PSN account. You'll see later but this is the address you need to share with your friends.
  • Create a new user account on your PS3 for the share. To do this go all the way to the left on the XMB and go through the create procedure. Call it whatever you want but remember this is going to have to stay on your system in order to play the game even if you're not logged into it.
  • Sign in under your new user name.
  • Go to the Playstation Network icon on the XMB. Create a new PSN Master account and fill in all of the necessary details like your name, address, user name etc. When it asks you for your email address use the new one you created in the first step. Also enter in a password that's easy to remember. The email address and password entered here is what you'll be sharing with your friends.
  • Fill in your billing information (attach a credit card to the account or use a PSN card)
  • Go shopping! Sign in to the PSN and go into the store. Add the games you want to share to the cart, purchase, and download.
  • Leave the store and go to your PSN options & preferences. Delete your credit card information if that's how you paid for the game. You don't want other people buying poo poo on your account!
  • Once the game downloads have begun you can sign back in as your regular PS3 user. This will not disrupt the download in any way. Once the game has finished downloading you can install it and start playing! Yaaay!
  • Remember that to continue to play this game you must keep the user account that purchased it on the system. Simple enough, just don't delete it.
  • Now you can send the information (email address and password) of the purchasing PSN account to your well behaved and paying friends. They deserve it.


As the good friend that paid his portion of the game share:
  • Retrieve the PSN account information from the game purchaser. All you need is the newly created email address and password.
  • Create a new user account on your PS3 all the way to the left on the XMB. This can be called whatever you want but it must permanently remain on the system in order to play the shared game.
  • Sign in under this new user.
  • Go to the Playstation Network icon on the XMB. Sign in under and existing PSN account and enter in the email address and password that the game purchaser sent you.
  • Go into the PSN store.
  • Access the previously downloaded items for that account. This is accessed through an icon in the upper-right (?) of the store interface.
  • Download the games that are being shared to you.
  • Once the game downloads have begun you can sign back in as your regular PS3 user. This will not disrupt the download in any way. Once the game has finished downloading you can install it and start playing!
  • Remember that to continue to play this game you must keep the user account that purchased it on the system. Simple enough, just don't delete it.
  • Set high scores and earn trophies



inFrequently Asked Questions:

Dodger_ posted:

Does the password on the PSN Master account need to stay the same or can it be changed after you have shared with someone and they are finished downloading?
You can change it. If you're sharing a game out of your master PSN account (instead of a special one you created just for sharing) this is pretty much the way to go. Once someone has gone into the store and grabbed the goods he should never have to sign back in with that PSN account again.

Kengi posted:

This will sound odd, but I'm currently under the impression that there is tax on the games, and I'm not 100% sure of why...

Will someone please confirm / deny this?
Right now it seems like it varies from state to state. One person from New York has reported paying taxes but living in PA I have not had to.

UPDATE: Taxes may be calculated based on your location when you first signed up, not your current address. I may have signed up under Delaware which has no sales tax hence no PA tax for me now.

oxy posted:

What is the preferred mode of money transfer? PayPal?
As outlined above this seems to be the easiest way to collect money to me. The other way to do it is this:
  • set up the purchasing PSN account
  • one at a time each person in the share group signs in, enters their billing info, adds their share of the money to the account, deletes their billing info, and passes the account off to the next person
  • once everyone's money is in the last person buys the game(s) using the account balance, downloads what he needs, and passes it back to everyone else in the group
The downside to this method is that you can only enter funds into a PSN account balance in set increments and it's hard to make that work out evenly most of the time. The upside is that no one person holds the money and there's no PayPal fees involved. Your choice really.

shodanjr_gr posted:

I am wondering, does this work if for instance the master account has a US locale and i am from the EU?
This should work fine since the sharing PSN account is the one that holds the location information not your actual PS3. The first share I did was with a guy in the US getting Tekken 5 off of the Hong Kong store.

Shmoogy posted:

I know that you can share an account with up to 5 PS3s, but lets say that somebody decides to go in for lots of game-sharing. Is there a limit to the amount of logins that the PS3 will take before giving them any problems? I ask, because I'm going to probably partake in lots of future game shares, and it's a concern, albeit a small one.
If there's a limit I've never heard of anyone reaching it. If someone has info to the contrary let me know.

Dominic White posted:

TIP!

Only one person can be logged into a single account at any given time, so in a five-man share, try not to hog the login. Log in, start your downloads and queue them as quickly as possible, then log back into your own account and let someone else have their turn.
Yeah don't be an account hog you jerks



Goon Recommended PSN Games
These are pretty safe bets that everyone should have in their collection:
- Bionic Commando Rearmed
- Burnout Paradise
- Crash Commando
- Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (sharable???)
- GripShift
- PixelJunk Monsters + Expansion
- Super Stardust HD
- Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix
- Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection
- Wipeout HD

Good games that are not everyone's cup of tea:
- 1942: Joint Strike
- Age of Booty
- Blast Factor + Advanced Research
- Calling All Cars!
- Echochrome
- Everyday Shooter
- Fatal Inertia EX
- fl0w + Expansion
- High Velocity Bowling
- LocoRoco Cocoreccho!
- Mega Man 9
- Penny Arcade Adventures: On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness: Episode 1
- Penny Arcade Adventures: On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness: Episode 2
- PixelJunk Eden
- PixelJunk Racers
- Piyotama
- Prince of Persia Classic
- Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords - Revenge of the Plague Lord
- Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty
- Siren
- Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo HD Remix
- The Last Guy

You've gotta like the genre or be in the right mood for these:
- Brain Challenge
- Elefunk
- Geon: Emotions
- Go! Puzzle
- Go! Sudoku
- High Stakes on the Vegas Strip: Poker Edition
- Linger in Shadows
- Novastrike
- Nucleus
- Pain + Amusement Park and retarded characters I guess
- Rocketmen: Axis of Evil
- Super Rub-a-Dub
- Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle-Cars
- Wolf of the Battlefield: Commando 3

Terrible:
- Cash Guns Chaos
- Go! Sports Ski
- Jeopardy!
- Sky Diving
- Snakeball
- Toy Home

Oldies but goodies (maybe):
- Castlevania Chronicles
- Championship Sprint
- Gauntlet II
- Joust
- Lemmings
- Mortal Kombat II
- Q*Bert
- Rampage World Tour
- Rampart
- Street Fighter Alpha

PSEye games:
- Aquatopia
- Mesmerize: Distort
- Mesmerize: Trace
- Operation Creature Feature
- The Trials of Topoq
- Tori-Emaki

Warhawk:
- Warhawk (buy it)
- Operation: Omega Dawn
- Operation: Broken Mirror
- Operation: Fallen Star

Yodzilla fucked around with this message at Dec 19, 2008 around 13:50

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Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch


To get things started here is my share group for Siren and 1942

Shmoogy
Yodzilla
Tenacious Dan
Aardark
Dominic White

Everyone has paid and account info has been sent out to everyone. This was a good share.

Yodzilla fucked around with this message at Jul 25, 2008 around 13:29

MUFFlNS
Mar 7, 2004



I forget how it works now but is it that each console can share downloaded content with 5 other consoles, or is it that each PSN account can be shared with upto 5 other consoles? I've got a few different PSN accounts with downloaded content on now from different regions, some have been shared and some haven't. Just curious how it actually works.

oxy
May 14, 2008


I'm down for doing this with some people. What is the preferred mode of money transfer paypal?

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch


AWWW SMACK posted:

I forget how it works now but is it that each console can share downloaded content with 5 other consoles, or is it that each PSN account can be shared with upto 5 other consoles? I've got a few different PSN accounts with downloaded content on now from different regions, some have been shared and some haven't. Just curious how it actually works.

I'm getting to that! Updating the OP now.

oxy posted:

I'm down for doing this with some people. What is the preferred mode of money transfer paypal?

That's my preferred method.

Aardark
Aug 5, 2004

Bear Witness

Yodzilla posted:

Bolded people are the ones who have paid and downloaded the game successfully. Aardark and Dominic White are still pending payment. Leeeeeeet's go!
I actually sent mine about six hours ago, you didn't receive it yet?

Kengi
Sep 22, 2006
Gamer, geek, and ladies man

Do you want to help set up these with other people, or just let us fend for ourselves?

Regardless, here's my set from the other thread:
PSN Newbies
Kengi (PSN Kengi01)
Myrddin Emrys (PSN ???)
Rirse (PSN ???)
YOUR NAME HERE!!! (PSN ???)
YOUR OTHER NAME HERE!!! (PSN ???)

If I'm correct, none of us really have any games purchased, which means getting games will be really nice since everyone would pay equally.

Since Pain and PixelJunk Monsters are both on sale for $5, I say we get on this soon.

I can create the account. I already manage 2 Xbox 360 accounts, why not 2 PSN?

And any games that enough people want that we're all okay with, let's add to a list.

I vote for Pain, PixelJunk Monsters, Blast Factor Bundle, LocoRoco Cocoreccho, Super Stardust HD.
I'm fine with 1942, since I think it looks okay but I wish there was a demo, and up for suggestions on a lot of other games. I'll play almost anything.

Kengi fucked around with this message at Jul 25, 2008 around 13:10

Kengi
Sep 22, 2006
Gamer, geek, and ladies man

This will sound odd, but I'm currently under the impression that there is tax on the games, and I'm not 100% sure of why...

Will someone please confirm / deny this?

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch


^^ i'm in PA and I didn't pay any tax last night. maybe in some states?

Kengi posted:

Do you want to help set up these with other people, or just let us fend for ourselves?

FREE FOR ALL Nah it'll organize itself soon.

Aardark posted:

I actually sent mine about six hours ago, you didn't receive it yet?

I just got it? It says I got it at 2 in the morning but I didn't see the email until now. This new Google home page thing is really loving with Gmail. Should I send the account info to the email address you paid me from?

Kengi
Sep 22, 2006
Gamer, geek, and ladies man

Odd... I'm in Ohio, but my parents live in PA, so I can just use their address for the extra account.

MUFFlNS
Mar 7, 2004



Kengi posted:

Do you want to help set up these with other people, or just let us fend for ourselves?

Regardless, here's my set from the other thread:
PSN Newbies
Kengi (PSN Kengi01)
Myrddin Emrys (PSN ???)
Rirse (PSN ???)
YOUR NAME HERE!!! (PSN ???)
YOUR OTHER NAME HERE!!! (PSN ???)

I'm thinking PSNGoons. Any objections?

If I'm correct, none of us really have any games purchased, which means getting games will be really nice since everyone would pay equally.

Since Pain and PixelJunk Monsters are both on sale for $5, I say we get on this soon.

I can create the account. I already manage 2 Xbox 360 accounts, why not 2 PSN?

And any games that enough people want that we're all okay with, let's add to a list.

I vote for Pain, PixelJunk Monsters, Blast Factor Bundle, LocoRoco Cocoreccho, Super Stardust HD.
I'm fine with 1942, since I think it looks okay but I wish there was a demo, and up for suggestions on a lot of other games. I'll play almost anything.

You don't need to call it "PSNGoons" or "PSNNewbies" since no-one will ever see that name. When you create the user account on your PS3 you can call it whatever you want, the only information the person who buys all the games shares with everyone is the email&password required to login to that account and start downloading.

Aardark
Aug 5, 2004

Bear Witness

Yodzilla posted:

I just got it? It says I got it at 2 in the morning but I didn't see the email until now. This new Google home page thing is really loving with Gmail. Should I send the account info to the email address you paid me from?
Yeah, please do.

Obsurveyor
Jan 10, 2003



Does the password on the PSN Master account need to stay the same or can it be changed after you have shared with someone and they are finished downloading?

Kengi
Sep 22, 2006
Gamer, geek, and ladies man

AWWW SMACK posted:

You don't need to call it "PSNGoons" or "PSNNewbies" since no-one will ever see that name. When you create the user account on your PS3 you can call it whatever you want, the only information the person who buys all the games shares with everyone is the email&password required to login to that account and start downloading.

Oh... I guess I'm too used to the whole 360 thing with IDs. That works then.

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001
YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING


Kengi posted:

This will sound odd, but I'm currently under the impression that there is tax on the games, and I'm not 100% sure of why...

Will someone please confirm / deny this?

I'm in NYC. I pay tax on all PSN purchases.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch


Dodger_ posted:

Does the password on the PSN Master account need to stay the same or can it be changed after you have shared with someone and they are finished downloading?

You can change it. If you're sharing a game out of your master PSN account this is pretty much the way to go.

shodanjr_gr
Nov 20, 2007


I am wondering, does this work if for instance the master account has a US locale and i am from the EU? If so, does anyone want to start a list for Siren (and maybe 1942)? It looks like a cool game id love to play. I might be willing to pitch in for 2 "slots" (since id like to authorize it on two PS3s).

TheArtist 314
Dec 25, 2004

What is your purpose?!

I just wanna rock!

So have we determined yet whether or not Siren's shareable?

Dominic White
Nov 1, 2005

We're marooned on a small island in an endless sea, confined to a tiny spit of sand, unable to escape.

But tonight, on this small planet, we're gonna rock civilization.

This is a lovely little perk of owning a PS3 - just did a Siren + 1942 share with Yodzilla and some others.

The best way to go about it seems to be creating a unique login for a particular group-share, and then paypalling money to the (trustworthy) buyer, who then makes the transaction, removes his billing details from the account, and distributes the login to the rest of the group.

You then just log into this download account, start the download, and you can immediately switch back to your main PSN account and never have to switch back unless you want to redownload that particular game.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch


shodanjr_gr posted:

I am wondering, does this work if for instance the master account has a US locale and i am from the EU? If so, does anyone want to start a list for Siren (and maybe 1942)? It looks like a cool game id love to play. I might be willing to pitch in for 2 "slots" (since id like to authorize it on two PS3s).

This should work fine since the sharing PSN account is the one that holds the location information not your actual PS3. The first share I did was with a guy in the US getting Tekken 5 off of the Hong Kong store.

TheArtist 314 posted:

So have we determined yet whether or not Siren's shareable?

Yup!

NicelyNice
Feb 13, 2004

citrus


Kengi posted:

Do you want to help set up these with other people, or just let us fend for ourselves?

Regardless, here's my set from the other thread:
PSN Newbies
Kengi (PSN Kengi01)
Myrddin Emrys (PSN ???)
Rirse (PSN ???)
YOUR NAME HERE!!! (PSN ???)
YOUR OTHER NAME HERE!!! (PSN ???)

If I'm correct, none of us really have any games purchased, which means getting games will be really nice since everyone would pay equally.

Since Pain and PixelJunk Monsters are both on sale for $5, I say we get on this soon.

I can create the account. I already manage 2 Xbox 360 accounts, why not 2 PSN?

And any games that enough people want that we're all okay with, let's add to a list.

I vote for Pain, PixelJunk Monsters, Blast Factor Bundle, LocoRoco Cocoreccho, Super Stardust HD.
I'm fine with 1942, since I think it looks okay but I wish there was a demo, and up for suggestions on a lot of other games. I'll play almost anything.

I'd be down for this, new owner - PixelJunk monsters and Stardust HD for sure, Everyday Shooter interests me a bit more than Blast Factor, which looks kind of standard. Any interest in EchoChrome or Calling All Cars? Tekken 5?

Kengi
Sep 22, 2006
Gamer, geek, and ladies man

shodanjr_gr posted:

I am wondering, does this work if for instance the master account has a US locale and i am from the EU? If so, does anyone want to start a list for Siren (and maybe 1942)? It looks like a cool game id love to play. I might be willing to pitch in for 2 "slots" (since id like to authorize it on two PS3s).

If you'd be up for a larger collection of games, I think we can handle another person (or 2 slots)

TheArtist 314
Dec 25, 2004

What is your purpose?!

I just wanna rock!

Yodzilla posted:

Yup!

Awesome. Still waiting for two more paypal transfers though

Kengi
Sep 22, 2006
Gamer, geek, and ladies man

There is a limit on the number of consoles, right? I'm asking because if shodanjr_gr wanted to use 2 PS3's, 2 slots of the 5 would be filled, right?

BookaT
May 29, 2003



Kengi posted:

There is a limit on the number of consoles, right? I'm asking because if shodanjr_gr wanted to use 2 PS3's, 2 slots of the 5 would be filled, right?

Yes, 2 downloads of the 5

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch


Kengi posted:

There is a limit on the number of consoles, right? I'm asking because if shodanjr_gr wanted to use 2 PS3's, 2 slots of the 5 would be filled, right?

This is correct.

e:

if anyone sees anything wrong with the OP please let me know

Kengi
Sep 22, 2006
Gamer, geek, and ladies man

Another question... I'm full of them.

Is it better, in practice, to have 1-2 groups to do this with where you get lots of games, or does it work better to have a group for 1942, a group for Siren, etc.?

BookaT
May 29, 2003



Kengi posted:

Another question... I'm full of them.

Is it better, in practice, to have 1-2 groups to do this with where you get lots of games, or does it work better to have a group for 1942, a group for Siren, etc.?

I'd say that breaks down to the preference of the 5 people getting into the group.

EDIT: I'm looking into sharing 1942, but I could care less for Siren. I don't know what Siren is

Kengi
Sep 22, 2006
Gamer, geek, and ladies man

BookaT posted:

I'd say that breaks down to the preference of the 5 people getting into the group.

Okay then. I'm all for most games, so if we can get a group for a larger number of games, I'd be all for it.

Specifically looking for:
Fat Princess (Once it comes out)
PixelJunk Eden
PixelJunk Monsters
Snakeball
Pain (Additional characters would be nice, but not a huge deal)
LocoRoco Cocoreccho
Super Stardust HD
Blast Factor Bundle

Would be okay with getting:
1942

Still need more info on:
Siren

Kengi fucked around with this message at Jul 25, 2008 around 14:04

Dominic White
Nov 1, 2005

We're marooned on a small island in an endless sea, confined to a tiny spit of sand, unable to escape.

But tonight, on this small planet, we're gonna rock civilization.

BookaT posted:

EDIT: I'm looking into sharing 1942, but I could care less for Siren. I don't know what Siren is

PS3 remake (with a lot of changes) of the classic PS2 horror game. Full $40, 9gb game.

BookaT
May 29, 2003




Thanks for the quick link. Just seems that Siren isn't my type of game.

Doorselfin
Dec 18, 2004

You broke my sitar, motherfucker.

I was skeptical about sharing, but now that I have seen that it brings people together with games for low low prices, it makes me smile.

I really want to get my hands on Shiki-Tei, the Japanese Gardening game plus its expansion, and Um Jammer Lammy. I tried to get some Japanese PSN points gamepointsnow.com, but they were all sold out, so I might as well see if anyone with a Japanese credit card or points would like to share either of those with me.

I'm also interested in getting in on a Siren group. Screw my hard disk space, I guess it's cheaper this way.

White Rabbit
Sep 8, 2004

We Do Not Sow.

I'll probably wait until I change my 60gb HD before I get in on this. I have a lot of PSN games I could sell/share (including Siren, PJM, Flow, Pain) but I'd rather have them on a bigger drive than on someone else's in the future since I don't suppose you can recover the data on PS3 drives to put it on another.

Remember to retrieve your HD if you ever send in your PS3 for repairs or your games will be lost folks! I hosed myself out of a game like that.

White Rabbit fucked around with this message at Jul 25, 2008 around 13:47

shodanjr_gr
Nov 20, 2007


Kengi posted:

If you'd be up for a larger collection of games, I think we can handle another person (or 2 slots)

Depends on how much it would run for per slot in the end. Give me the quote and ill let you know.

Aardark
Aug 5, 2004

Bear Witness

Doorselfin posted:

I really want to get my hands on Shiki-Tei, the Japanese Gardening game plus its expansion, and Um Jammer Lammy. I tried to get some Japanese PSN points gamepointsnow.com, but they were all sold out, so I might as well see if anyone with a Japanese credit card or points would like to share either of those with me.
I'm also interested in both of these.

Kengi
Sep 22, 2006
Gamer, geek, and ladies man

shodanjr_gr posted:

Depends on how much it would run for per slot in the end. Give me the quote and ill let you know.

Let me contact the other guys who wanted in. In the mean time, want to make a list of games you'd be after to see if we can't get a bunch of games at once.

Shmoogy
Mar 21, 2007


This is probably the best thread to ask the question in.

I know that you can share an account with up to 5 PS3s, but lets say that somebody decides to go in for lots of game-sharing. Is there a limit to the amount of logins that the PS3 will take before giving them any problems? I ask, because I'm going to probably partake in lots of future game shares, and it's a concern, albeit a small one.

Dominic White
Nov 1, 2005

We're marooned on a small island in an endless sea, confined to a tiny spit of sand, unable to escape.

But tonight, on this small planet, we're gonna rock civilization.

One little detail of note: Only one person can be logged into a single account at any given time, so in a five-man share, try not to hog the login. Log in, start your downloads and queue them as quickly as possible, then log back into your own account and let someone else have their turn.

I've currently got my big 1942 + Siren download going. Doubt I'll have more than episode 2 or 3 of Siren by today, as my line is painfully slow. Should have most of it by tomorrow morning though.

And again, thanks to Yodzilla and the Siren Share Prototype Crew.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch


Dominic White posted:

One little detail of note: Only one person can be logged into a single account at any given time, so in a five-man share, try not to hog the login. Log in, start your downloads and queue them as quickly as possible, then log back into your own account and let someone else have their turn.

Ooh good tip!

Shmoogy posted:

I know that you can share an account with up to 5 PS3s, but lets say that somebody decides to go in for lots of game-sharing. Is there a limit to the amount of logins that the PS3 will take before giving them any problems? I ask, because I'm going to probably partake in lots of future game shares, and it's a concern, albeit a small one.

I don't think there's a limit. If there is I've never heard of anyone reaching it.

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Unagi
Jan 27, 2007


PISSmaster




Doorselfin posted:

I was skeptical about sharing, but now that I have seen that it brings people together with games for low low prices, it makes me smile.

I really want to get my hands on Shiki-Tei, the Japanese Gardening game plus its expansion, and Um Jammer Lammy. I tried to get some Japanese PSN points gamepointsnow.com, but they were all sold out, so I might as well see if anyone with a Japanese credit card or points would like to share either of those with me.

I'm also interested in getting in on a Siren group. Screw my hard disk space, I guess it's cheaper this way.

I'm also interested in a Siren group. I'm in NY though and if it'd be cheaper for people to not pay tax then someone else starting it might be a good idea.

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