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wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

I sense... people who need to be reading Gunnerkrigg Court.


I really hope the Female Lead of Graces will be awesome, like Raine Sage (yes I know Colette was technically the main girl in Symphonia but seriously I wish they hadn't put a key crest on her) or Tear Grant, and not lame, like Marta Lualdi. drat that was a long sentence.

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BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


More decent quality screenshots of Tales of Versus, Tales of Graces and Tales of Vesperia PS3 have been posted on Dengeki.

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/152/152757/ TOVS
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/152/152569/ TOG
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/153/153322/ Vesperia PS3

Tales of Graces already looks better than TOS2 did at this stage, aside from the ground textures in the arenas looking a bit flat. Tales of Versus apparently has an actual story of some sort as well.

BurningCourage fucked around with this message at Apr 16, 2009 around 21:37

Eddain
May 6, 2007


I just realized that the new pirate girl in Vesperia PS3 is pretty much the pirate girl Chat from Tales of Eternia. Creepy.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

I sense... people who need to be reading Gunnerkrigg Court.


Pirate girl is riding a loving ROCKET and I want Vesperia PS3 so much right now.

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

INSERT COIN


I'll only buy Vesperia for PS3 if it has:

- Skippable cutscenes
- That's pretty much it yeah

Entire game is a wild goose chase and I probably would've finished my 360 post-game had it not of been for the inability to cut scenes. I'll bet all the backtracking crap will remain in the PS3 version though. Better keep Kouli's guide nearby.

Also I really should continue my run of Rebirth. I play it for about 2 hours then forget about it for a month, come back to it, and repeat. I did this yesterday. The battle system is still a lot of fun (possibly the best of the series).

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


Direct-feed footage of Tales of Versus has been posted on the official site, and it's not looking too impressive. The choppy framerate of the videos certainly doesn't help. It looks like they just took the LMBS from, say, Abyss, removed free-run and slapped it in a fighting game. It also has full-screen full body cutins for the Mystic Artes now.

http://to-vs.namco-ch.net/ Click character, choose from either Luke or Richter (the only two characters who have footage posted so far) and click the screenshot you'll see.

Eddain
May 6, 2007


A bit more info concerning the PS3 Tales of Vesperia. Raven's new arte reminds me of Max from Tales of Eternia.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/20...peria_features/

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

NAMCO
Let this old man play Tales of Rebirth
IN ENGLISH!

Eddain posted:

A bit more info concerning the PS3 Tales of Vesperia. Raven's new arte reminds me of Max from Tales of Eternia.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/20...peria_features/

Skullknight fuckin sighted!

http://www.famitsu.com/image/1396/S...uS9xF7au47.html

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


Yes! A thread bump! This gives me an excuse to post more poo poo about Tales of Versus, which none of you will likely be looking forward to.

NEW CONFIRMED CHARACTERS THUS FAR: Philia, Lloyd, Collete, Judith, Anise, Jade, Stahn, Arche, Mao, Cless, Leon, Ruca and Asch and Nanaly. Features are 4-player battles over Ad-Hoc and possibily Infrastructure (aka online), story mode called Yggdrasil Battles and, uh, some other stuff. And finally, here's some new gameplay videos of the game in action. There are also new scans floating about if you know where to look.

edit: here have some screenshots





BurningCourage fucked around with this message at May 27, 2009 around 21:38

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

NAMCO
Let this old man play Tales of Rebirth
IN ENGLISH!

My love for the Tales series is slamming into my distaste of the Smash Bros. series.... I don't know what to think anymore...

Skyelan
Sep 17, 2007

Dominated, sugarcube.


Solice Kirsk posted:

My love for the Tales series is slamming into my distaste of the Smash Bros. series.... I don't know what to think anymore...

...Why? Aside from it being a crossover fighter, it looks nothing like Smash Bros. It just looks like the Tales battle system, just multiplayer and versus.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

NAMCO
Let this old man play Tales of Rebirth
IN ENGLISH!

Skyelan posted:

...Why? Aside from it being a crossover fighter, it looks nothing like Smash Bros. It just looks like the Tales battle system, just multiplayer and versus.

If the gameplay footage doesn't remind you of Smash Bros. then I have no idea what to tell you. Rock on I guess.

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


Yeah, there's definitely a few Smash Bros elements in there, such as stage hazards and dropping through platforms, but I don't know about items yet. Namco haven't revealed anything about the battle mechanics so I'm just going to assume it's like Abyss but without the free-run. Also here's the boxart.

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


This thread isn't gonna die, not on my watch! Here's the latest Tales Of Graces footage, showcasing the stunning looking combat. They seem to have abandoned Free Run this time, instead using sidesteps, much like a 3D fighting game. Not only that, attacks are performed with both attack buttons, instead of having one button be for normal moves and the other for specials. There's also a new camera angle which gives battles a fresh look.

Also not that anyone really gives a poo poo but a handful more characters were confirmed for Versus, one of them being Rita from Vesperia. I forget the rest.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

MORE ROBUST THAN EVER BEFORE


Some new costumes for PS3 Vesperia have been revealed too. Specifically: Yuri with Asch's outfit and hairstyle, Estelle with Tear's military garb, and Flynn with Luke's primary outfit.

Also I guess the JP release date is 9/17/09.

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


Those are preorder bonuses, specifically. Although Namco will probably make them DLC at a later point.

Eddain
May 6, 2007


BurningCourage posted:

This thread isn't gonna die, not on my watch! Here's the latest Tales Of Graces footage, showcasing the stunning looking combat. They seem to have abandoned Free Run this time, instead using sidesteps, much like a 3D fighting game. Not only that, attacks are performed with both attack buttons, instead of having one button be for normal moves and the other for specials. There's also a new camera angle which gives battles a fresh look.

Also not that anyone really gives a poo poo but a handful more characters were confirmed for Versus, one of them being Rita from Vesperia. I forget the rest.

Man, the time they put into mothership titles versus escort titles is staggering. Just compare Tales of Symphonia 2 (escort) to Tales of Graces (mothership). At first I thought ToS2 sucked because it was on the Wii but now I think they just said gently caress it and left it to die.

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


Plus I think TOS2 was made by some weird C team within Tales Studio. They definitely didn't have their A team on that.

Cross
Mar 30, 2003

This was their new emblem.

Same trailer (I think), but better quality.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that ToG is being made more or less by Team Destiny, which is definitely better than the poo poo team they threw on ToS2 or most (all?) of the portable games. At the very least, it'll probably have a really good battle system, considering that it took Team Symphonia three full games before Vesperia managed to scratch some of the stuff that Destiny has been doing the whole time.
It actually does look really nice, too. It looks like the game assets are more or less on par with Vesperia's, so I sort of wish they'd do an up-port on it to the HD consoles as well, but it's still good for the Wii.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

I sense... people who need to be reading Gunnerkrigg Court.


BurningCourage posted:

Plus I think TOS2 was made by some weird C team within Tales Studio. They definitely didn't have their A team on that.

I'd say it was more of a "B" fighting team mixed with a "Z-" writing team. For some reason fighting with Emil felt much more fluid than ToS or ToA (which are the only other Tales games I've played, I admit).

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006

She's from a small village near Surrey and oh my, this lady sure loves going into detail of her growing up and my tea's gone cold and sour.

Really struggling to feign attention at this point.


wdarkk posted:

I'd say it was more of a "B" fighting team mixed with a "Z-" writing team. For some reason fighting with Emil felt much more fluid than ToS or ToA (which are the only other Tales games I've played, I admit).

Yeah, Emile was pretty fun to control and the gameplay itself wasn't bad.
Everything else sucked, though.

Tales of Graces is looking very good. Hope it has costumes and accessories for the big dumb girl inside all of us.
Also, I hope the main character's out-of-battle-model sword and sheathe change depending what he has equipped (ala Yuri)

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


Here are the artes for ToG that were seen in the new screenshots that Famitsu posted, thanks to some dude over at the official Tales board:

quote:

Asbel
Sheathed Blade
双衝 - Soushou
刹牙 - Setsuga
水影身 -Suieishin

Drawn Blade
魔神剣 - Majinken
衝皇震 - Shououshin
魔王炎撃波 - Maouengekiha
裂壊桜 - Rekkaiou

?
裂震虎砲 - Resshinkohou


SoPhie
Grappling
錬気轟縮 - Renkigoushuku
旋幻舞 - Sengenbu

Healing (?)
シェルスロー - Shell Throw
ファーストエイド - First Aid

So it looks like a mix of old and new. And nope, they still can't abandon Majinken/Demon Fang. And the screenshots in question: http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1225124_1407.html

Stow
Feb 14, 2004


BurningCourage posted:

And nope, they still can't abandon Majinken/Demon Fang.

I was pretty sure that if they'd do it, Legendia was the game to do it in. It'll stay in forever.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003



By the way, how do y'all usually bind your special attacks? I have settled on the following scheme:

stick neutral: combo starters
stick left/right: blowback/knockdown attacks or otherwise combo finishers
stick up: launchers/jumping attacks
stick down: diving/arcing attacks

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


I usually have a projectile or combo starter on Neutral, otherwise my setup is much like yours.

edit: Tales of Versus has got me thinking: I'd like to see more unique weapons given to the heroes in future Tales games. ToV consists mostly of swordsmen with generally similar movesets, with character with more unique weapons sort of falling by the wayside. I have yet to play Vesperia (but it comes out in the UK on Friday!), but from videos I saw some of the villians had some really unique weapons, so why can't the heroes have those, instead of being stuck with the usual collection of swords and spears and gauntlets.

BurningCourage fucked around with this message at Jun 22, 2009 around 18:47

Lakitu7
Jul 10, 2001

Watch for spinys

Samurai Sanders posted:

By the way, how do y'all usually bind your special attacks? I have settled on the following scheme:

stick neutral: combo starters
stick left/right: blowback/knockdown attacks or otherwise combo finishers
stick up: launchers/jumping attacks
stick down: diving/arcing attacks

I pretty much use this one, yeah. It has enough vague logic to it to work well.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

CG: IT'S ME AGAIN, ASSHOLE
CG: THE ONE WHO HATES YOU, REMEMBER?


I've usually gone with:

Neutral: Misc, such as status changing artes. I think Luke's Steel occupied this spot throughout all of Abyss once it got the ability to heal.
Left/Right: Starters
Up: Launchers
Down: Blowbacks

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

MORE ROBUST THAN EVER BEFORE


Samurai Sanders posted:

By the way, how do y'all usually bind your special attacks? I have settled on the following scheme:

stick neutral: combo starters
stick left/right: blowback/knockdown attacks or otherwise combo finishers
stick up: launchers/jumping attacks
stick down: diving/arcing attacks

It depends on the attack and the direction I feel it goes. Like for Yuri:

Neutral: Shining Fang
Left/Right: Shining Dragon Swarm
Up: Shining Fang Drop
Down: Brutal Fang

But when it comes to spellcasters I stick them depending on element.

Neutral: Fire
Up: Wind
Down: Earth
Left/Right: Dark
RS Up: Light/Healing
RS Right: Water
RS Left/Down: Personal Preference

Skychrono
May 11, 2007

I'll make you cry like I did when my daddy died!


Samurai Sanders posted:

By the way, how do y'all usually bind your special attacks? I have settled on the following scheme:

stick neutral: combo starters
stick left/right: blowback/knockdown attacks or otherwise combo finishers
stick up: launchers/jumping attacks
stick down: diving/arcing attacks

I did that for Luke, but for Yuri and other Vesperia characters I did it based on the Link Direction... or whatever it's called, the stat that determines when you can do a Fatal Blow.

Eddain
May 6, 2007


Here are some screens of the preorder Tales of the Abyss costumes for Tales of Vesperia PS3. The Yuri/Asch and Flynn/Luke look is amazing, somewhat mirroring their beliefs. Also there's some new Giganto.

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1225128_1407.html

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Well, it looks like Tales of Vesperia PS3 just got a bit more of a boost towards the likelyhood of NA/EU localization. The EU 360 version of Tales of Vesperia no longer sports the "Only for Xbox 360" logo on the top.



Not the most sterling proof, but enough to start raising an eyebrow.

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


I just got Tales of Vesperia, and I must say holy poo poo Repede loving owns look at that loving pipe

I'm sure I'm not the only person who reacted this way, because goddamn. And also, Yuri owns because he doesn't put up with any of the retarded cutesy anime bullshit the other characters try to spout. He's a complete rear end in a top hat to everyone, I love it.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

MORE ROBUST THAN EVER BEFORE


Eddain posted:

Here are some screens of the preorder Tales of the Abyss costumes for Tales of Vesperia PS3. The Yuri/Asch and Flynn/Luke look is amazing, somewhat mirroring their beliefs. Also there's some new Giganto.

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1225128_1407.html

That's definitely not a Giganto, unless they're adding secret missions to them now.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


SpazmasterX posted:

That's definitely not a Giganto, unless they're adding secret missions to them now.

Third SS has a different fighting ground.

Eddain
May 6, 2007


McTimmy posted:

Third SS has a different fighting ground.

The 3rd SS also has different characters. I wouldn't mind more Secret Missions for Gigantos though.

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


I got my copy of ToV, and I'm about 5 hours in so far. I would honestly say it's the best Tales game I've played yet. I just wish it used mo-cap, since some of the animations look really wooden and it's a little offputting at times. At least I finally have it, after a year or so of waiting.

Eddain
May 6, 2007


Would any of you EU fans buy the PS3 Vesperia if it had a NA release? I think the additions would definitely make it worth it.

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


I would but likely only when I'm totally done with Vesperia 360.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

MORE ROBUST THAN EVER BEFORE


McTimmy posted:

Third SS has a different fighting ground.

I have a lovely monitor at work.

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Skychrono
May 11, 2007

I'll make you cry like I did when my daddy died!


Eddain posted:

Would any of you EU fans buy the PS3 Vesperia if it had a NA release? I think the additions would definitely make it worth it.

I love Tales games more than any other, but I can't imagine that Vesperia's PS3 release would fix the weird pacing issues it has later on - the fetch-quest styled approach, that is, that starts a bit later on. It's a pretty big turn off, and I'm not enjoying it nearly as much as I was Abyss at this point. I'll beat it... eventually...

I'd love to be proven wrong, though.

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