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Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Welp, I think I'm gonna go out and look into downgrading my spare 60GB now.

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Stow
Feb 14, 2004


Certainly didn't expect this. An early christmas gift!

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

INSERT COIN


Interesting.

This video actually made me realize that I'd have little issue playing this in full Japanese. I guess being geared towards combat helps quite a bit here.

But then I think to myself: why should I, when previous titles were localized?

It's not Idolmaster 2. It's not like they can't localize it, they're just too proud to outsource their own material.

Still not buying it though, lol.

I guess a lot of hopeful fans will start believing that a PS3 patch will come out due to this video, huh.

Considering the fact that the Wii version still lacks a patch, I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Graces F can't even run on 3.41, or so I hear. It probably contains a system firmware update within, which comes as no surprise.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Diet Evil, only one Calorie

Megalixir posted:


This is a bit baseless. You know the same group who did that PS3 demo patch is the same group doing the Wii patch, right? You can read their news and progress updates here: http://talesofgraces.com/

As far as any outsider can tell, the Wii patch is coming along fairly quickly as far as fan translation of games go. It's not as if Wii and PS3 projects are well documented, so there's a bit of pioneering going on at any given time. Their earliest update is July of this year, and judging by the progress meters, it looks like they're looking at a 2011 release since they're doing things a little backwards from how groups typically approach these projects.

Remember how long the Front Mission 5 project took for the PS2, when it was one of the first completed translation projects on that system? Hint: years. By all signs, I think the right people got a hold of this project, so it's well-deserving of hope.

Although it does seem people are indeed posting that Tales of Graces F requires a 3.5 upgrade. You may be able to do some downgrade tricks to get it to run - not sure. Actually the head guy over at the site posted on the 3.5 upgrade:

Tempus posted:

It does force a 3.50 update. No worries, we’ll get around it if we need to.

Rascyc fucked around with this message at Dec 7, 2010 around 18:14

Dancing Peasant
Jul 19, 2003

All this for stealing a piece of bread?


Shingin posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEB98GnFKs8

youtube video of the translated demo.

Haha, one of the weapons was called Brave Vesperia. Now I want to boot up and play ToV again on my 360.

ruta
Apr 21, 2010

Look at this snail.


Dancing Peasant posted:

Haha, one of the weapons was called Brave Vesperia. Now I want to boot up and play ToV again on my 360.

There were actually more weapons in the game files that referenced other Tales games too. Every Tales of game had at least one weapon.

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


ruta posted:

There were actually more weapons in the game files that referenced other Tales games too. Every Tales of game had at least one weapon.

the reference for Dawn of the New World is a wet noodle

But seriously, I'm playing this game (DotNW) and they somehow managed to make Sword Dancers suck. I don't know how they did it, but Sword Dancers are terrible monster pals. Ravenous, on the other hand, well. . . mine is level 164 and has 9999 A.Atk

10x experience is the best thing, Mania mode has been a breeze. btw do I get the Fire/Thunder centurion abilities later on if I intentionally let Lloyd steal the core? I'm trying to get the title and skits I didn't get the first run

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

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Rascyc posted:



Yes, I know of them.

The same guys who did the Zero patch, which can be played on a Japanese Wii without resorting to piracy.

In order to play Graces on a PS3, the firmware included has to be applied.

So in order to play the game on 3.41, the .iso of the game would have to be extracted, the firmware file needs to be removed, and the game needs to be redistributed by .iso.

Considering they are strictly against piracy, this is most definitely positively not happening.

I wonder how people will enjoy the demo in English, which requires latest firmware in order to download the demo, but requires 3.41 in order to run in English. All of them are hosed, unless they downloaded the demo during 3.41 or earlier and haven't updated.

ruta
Apr 21, 2010

Look at this snail.


Megalixir posted:

So in order to play the game on 3.41, the .iso of the game would have to be extracted, the firmware file needs to be removed, and the game needs to be redistributed by .iso.

Considering they are strictly against piracy, this is most definitely positively not happening.

I wonder how people will enjoy the demo in English, which requires latest firmware in order to download the demo, but requires 3.41 in order to run in English. All of them are hosed, unless they downloaded the demo during 3.41 or earlier and haven't updated.

The demo patcher downloads a version of the demo should you not have it installed on your system. Of course, it does not get it from the PSN. Did you really think that was the only place to get it? Also, the Zero patch and the Tales of Graces Wii patch work on all Wii consoles, not just Japanese ones. There can be some display problems on PAL systems.

I don't even really know how to approach you about the 3.50 stuff. I guess I'll just ask you, why do you think repacking it into a new ISO would work but using r3volution wouldn't? I know, it's really fun and easy to be a negative naysayer, but you don't really have the background knowledge to be laying these claims. It's still really early in the PS3 hacking stages, and the game just came out. Can you at least wait a couple months before you break down with lines like "I knew they couldn't do it!"

On another note, of interest, certain text (battle, menu, etc.) in Tales of Graces (F) and Tales of Vesperia are all in the elf/dol. This is sort of obvious, but anyway, since Tales of Vesperia was encrypted, we could only go by the elf for a long time about "how much English" is in the game. They've since decrypted the rest of Vesperia, and it really has a lot of English in it. It wouldn't be hard to organise and patch with r3volution (compared to Graces), providing a way to re-encrypt it was found. Unfortunately, most translators don't find the project appealing, because Tales of Vesperia 360 was already released in the US. However, I'm kind of curious about how many fans would play ToV PS3 in half English? I guess only the fans who were die hard enough to import it despite not knowing Japanese in the first place.

ruta fucked around with this message at Dec 9, 2010 around 17:51

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Fix up, look sharp, new Tales being announced next week that you'll never play

Isn't being a Tales fan so loving fun?!

Slio
Jan 17, 2009



Policenaut posted:

Fix up, look sharp, new Tales being announced next week that you'll never play

Isn't being a Tales fan so loving fun?!

You know, now I'm curious to see how Vesperia and Abyss even got over stateside with how Namco seems to had localization. I know Nintendo localized Symphonia, which kept it rolling for a while, but Vesperia was a ways out off of that success.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009


Slio posted:

You know, now I'm curious to see how Vesperia and Abyss even got over stateside with how Namco seems to had localization. I know Nintendo localized Symphonia, which kept it rolling for a while, but Vesperia was a ways out off of that success.

Sony and Microsoft funding? I assume the money to get Vesperia made had a localisation in the contract because lord knows Japan is not the Xbox's strongest local.

ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at Dec 9, 2010 around 21:25

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010



Jesus, I hadn't even seen that patch. That looks astoundingly well done and I deeply want to try it, though I'm a complete newbie as far as any dongle/jailbreaking/screwing around with firmware stuff goes. I was just going to play it with my crappy osmosed slow-as-hell JP knowledge.

The new one looks pretty Legendia. It's got the same pastel-and-ruins thing going on, to a degree.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Tales of Xillia

Alright. Let's do this.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Are you mocking me?

Policenaut posted:

Tales of Xillia

Alright. Let's do this.

Little known fact. "Xillia" is actually an ancient word meaning "Not for English-speakers."

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream




"Yuri? Who's Yuri?"

Skychrono
May 11, 2007

I'll make you cry like I did when my daddy died!


Policenaut posted:



"Yuri? Who's Yuri?"

Is that the guy who drew for ToD, or Fujishima (ToV) trying to copy his style?

e: Ignore me, I read the article.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Diet Evil, only one Calorie

Girl reminds me of Rutee (sleeves). Guy reminds me of dung. Man his art in the magazine looks awful, but the in game looks a bit better.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

NAMCO
Let this old man play Tales of Rebirth
IN ENGLISH!

Why do I look at this stuff when I know I will never get to enjoy it?! $10 says that the two leads are on opposite sides of the conflict and team up both groups at the end to fight the real big bad.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Solice Kirsk posted:

Why do I look at this stuff when I know I will never get to enjoy it?! $10 says that the two leads are on opposite sides of the conflict and team up both groups at the end to fight the real big bad.

Ah, yes, the Radiata Stories approach.

I'd put my money on either that or the groundbreaking new Rune Factory: Oceans approach: "Both leads are the same person, a magical transsexual."

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007

Oh! I Feel It.
I Feel The Cosmos!


"Tales of You're Not Getting This poo poo" as my friend puts it.

Ho-hum, oh well.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Are you mocking me?

Policenaut posted:

Ah, yes, the Radiata Stories approach.

I'd put my money on either that or the groundbreaking new Rune Factory: Oceans approach: "Both leads are the same person, a magical transsexual."

Wait, what is this about Rune Factory and magical transsexual?

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


ImpAtom posted:

Wait, what is this about Rune Factory and magical transsexual?

I've read from a few people that the lead character in Rune Factory: Oceans is a person who can magically change their gender from male to female, so players can experience both male and female romance paths without creating new games. They share the same body but have their own "minds"

Pata Pata Pata Pon
Jun 20, 2007
I smell air!

So is it pronounced "Zillia" or "Exillia?" Also, it looks like the logo has a little guy and girl silhouette, presumably reflecting the two main characters, which is kind of neat. I wonder how they're going to do the "two main characters" thing? Also, I wonder if this is the Tales team trying to get rid of the idea of a "Team Symphonia" and a "Team Destiny," since even though they theoretically combined the two teams, Vesperia obviously had a "Symphonia" feel and Graces had a "Destiny" feel.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Are you mocking me?

Policenaut posted:

I've read from a few people that the lead character in Rune Factory: Oceans is a person who can magically change their gender from male to female, so players can experience both male and female romance paths without creating new games. They share the same body but have their own "minds"

... Wow. That sounds like quite the thing to explain to your wife/husband.

Although I'm kind of surprised Tales hasn't done something like that before, thinking about it.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Diet Evil, only one Calorie

Some of the artwork so far for Rune Factory would definitely agree with that theory I suppose.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

NAMCO
Let this old man play Tales of Rebirth
IN ENGLISH!

Well Radiata only had one lead but you could choose which side you were on. I'm thinking more like if you got to play Human Side Jack and Ripley(?) at the same time, but in the end team up.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

CG: IT'S ME AGAIN, ASSHOLE
CG: THE ONE WHO HATES YOU, REMEMBER?


Solice Kirsk posted:

Why do I look at this stuff when I know I will never get to enjoy it?! $10 says that the two leads are on opposite sides of the conflict and team up both groups at the end to fight the real big bad.
That's what Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits did. I thought it worked out OK for that game at least.

ruta
Apr 21, 2010

Look at this snail.


Banana Cat posted:

So is it pronounced "Zillia" or "Exillia?" Also, it looks like the logo has a little guy and girl silhouette, presumably reflecting the two main characters, which is kind of neat. I wonder how they're going to do the "two main characters" thing? Also, I wonder if this is the Tales team trying to get rid of the idea of a "Team Symphonia" and a "Team Destiny," since even though they theoretically combined the two teams, Vesperia obviously had a "Symphonia" feel and Graces had a "Destiny" feel.

Looks like Exillia would be closer to what they were going for. Despite Inomata being there, I'm still saying it's a Team Symphonia game until I see the fight system. I'd love to see a game with Team Destiny fights and chats and Symphonia everything else, but it might seem like Team Destiny "won" if they got rid of that annoying TP system, right?

Considering the main guy is a med school student and the main girl is a something with spirits, neither seem like the typical straight up melee fighter a main character tends to be. I'm fine with it if the main guy is capable of being a main healer (like Sophie from Graces), though. There really aren't enough male healers in the series. Hisui was precious in a lot of ways. I just hope this game isn't some science vs. spirits type story or something.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Check out the trailer and other stuff here

Yuri-dude is a hand-to-hand fighter like the loser from Legendia, other girl uses a sword.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Diet Evil, only one Calorie

Looks good, I still don't like the main male lead much but I am totally down for some fisticuffs (it was the one that initially drew me to Legandia! But alas.)

Nate RFB posted:

That's what Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits did. I thought it worked out OK for that game at least.
It was actually perfectly fine except they clobbered the ending and gave you a false idea of how the ending was supposed to play out.

Still, not a bad idea. That whole series is very underrated if you ask me, especially Arc the Lad 2.

Rascyc fucked around with this message at Dec 15, 2010 around 17:39

Eddain
May 6, 2007


Main dude does a Beast-like arte with melee attacks in the trailer. Wonder if that means the main girl has the other main arte set (Lloyd/Kratos, Guy/Luke, etc.)

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

CG: IT'S ME AGAIN, ASSHOLE
CG: THE ONE WHO HATES YOU, REMEMBER?


Rascyc posted:

It was actually perfectly fine except they clobbered the ending and gave you a false idea of how the ending was supposed to play out.

Still, not a bad idea. That whole series is very underrated if you ask me, especially Arc the Lad 2.
I remember liking Twilight of the Spirits except for the last boss. I recall the battle lasting 2 hours or something ridiculous.

The Dirty Burger
Aug 24, 2007

1st team all star
+
2nd degree manslaughter
=
3rd world clothing line

Policenaut posted:

Check out the trailer and other stuff here

Yuri-dude is a hand-to-hand fighter like the loser from Legendia, other girl uses a sword.

Looks pretty cool, can't wait to pl-

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Maybe we can get this thread renamed to something more fitting, like "Tales of Depression Megathread"

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005




Policenaut posted:

Maybe we can get this thread renamed to something more fitting, like "Tales of Depression Megathread"

Tales of Despairia

UselessLurker
Apr 28, 2008


Policenaut posted:

Maybe we can get this thread renamed to something more fitting, like "Tales of Depression Megathread"

Tales of gently caress These Great RPGs, Love Bamco

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

When you're a priest, sometimes you've got to raise a little hell.

Spiffo posted:

Tales of Despairia

This is fantastic.

The katakana under the title spells out "ekushiria," so "Exillia" would be the most accurate pronunciation.

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

If I said I wanted your body, would you let me possess it??


it looked like they were performing some kind of dual Arte, it would be pretty cool if they implemented a Chrono Trigger-style dual tech system.

EDIT: not that I'd ever get a chance to play it anyway!

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Xythar
Dec 22, 2004

echoes of a contemporary nation

Is there any other series where the publisher has been so adamant about denying an English release of almost every game despite a vocal fanbase? I mean we even got a Sakura Wars game, eventually. I can only hope the same thing will happen here, and some small JRPG localisation company will pick up the rights to Tales once the series dies and Bamco stop caring.

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