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So, I haven't played a Tales game since I tried of Phantasia like ten years ago. Somehow after PSN sales and drunk buying, I own Symphonia, Graces f, and Xillia. Not to mention Abyss on 3DS. What should be my order of attack on these anime vidyas? Also, I saw that the terrible version of Phantasia on iOS is/was shut down. Maybe the GBA version will resurface on the Wii U VC...
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Oct 23, 2014 23:25
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I guess my first question would be which Phantasia, and did you like it? Symphonia would be the most similar, I think, being essentially a transposition of earlier games into a 3D movement scheme and having many similar elements to Phantasia in particular. Graces and Xillia both have more intricate gameplay and you'll learn very new, different control and customization schemes (though I, myself, love them). I would also recommend not playing Abyss before Symphonia. I did (with Innocence, which in some ways is like Abyss Pocket) and the Free Run feature (which Symphonia doesn't have, so you can only move on a line between you and the targeted enemy) utterly spoiled me. Xillia has the same feature, and Graces has a similar one. e?: I should mention that Symphonia is a direct prequel to Phantasia and the other games are totally separate (except for references), so it shares some world elements and callbacks as well.
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Oct 23, 2014 23:39
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The Machine posted:So, I haven't played a Tales game since I tried of Phantasia like ten years ago. Somehow after PSN sales and drunk buying, I own Symphonia, Graces f, and Xillia. Not to mention Abyss on 3DS. If you're hankering to play Phantasia again I strongly recommend the PSX version via a translation patch.
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Oct 24, 2014 00:18
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So if Milla comes back in Xillia 2, does that mean I get to beat the poo poo out of Ivar more? I hope so.
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Oct 24, 2014 00:22
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If you want to beat the poo poo out of Ivar, Xillia 2 is right up your alley. You do it on at least three occasions. I'm honestly not even sure what role he had in the plot.Endorph posted:Very happy, a little awkward, trying to be mature about it and focus on the task at hand instead of fanboying over her but he still fanboys a bit. The way they act like she's dead early on was really odd though. She went off to be god, it's not like they can never see her again.
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Oct 24, 2014 00:23
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The Machine posted:What should be my order of attack on these anime vidyas? Play all the ones you can get in English. Graces f, Symphonia 1/2 HD, Xillia, Abyss, whatever. I consider the Tales label a fairly reliable assurance that you will at least have fun playing it, regardless of nitpicks about combat style.
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Oct 24, 2014 00:27
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Nate RFB posted:If you're hankering to play Phantasia again I strongly recommend the PSX version via a translation patch. Weren't the guys who did the original Phantasia PSX patch working on the PSP X version? If anything wouldn't it be worth it to wait for that version, even if it's got an added character of questionable quality?
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Oct 24, 2014 00:29
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alcharagia posted:So if Milla comes back in Xillia 2, does that mean I get to beat the poo poo out of Ivar more? I hope so. As for his role in the plot, he was basically just Rideaux's lackey.
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Oct 24, 2014 00:29
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RMZXAnarchy posted:Weren't the guys who did the original Phantasia PSX patch working on the PSP X version? If anything wouldn't it be worth it to wait for that version, even if it's got an added character of questionable quality? No? I mean they might've been trying to do Narikiri Dungeon X, which is on the same UMD/game but they weren't doing Phantasia X I'm pretty sure.
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Oct 24, 2014 00:32
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Nah, they're definitely working on the main Phantasia X stuff.RMZXAnarchy posted:Weren't the guys who did the original Phantasia PSX patch working on the PSP X version? If anything wouldn't it be worth it to wait for that version, even if it's got an added character of questionable quality? Yeah, they're working on both Phantasia X and Destiny Director's Cut at the moment. Phantasia X has been their priority since about April or so, when Hearts R's localisation was announced.
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Oct 24, 2014 00:33
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Dragonatrix posted:Nah, they're definitely working on the main Phantasia X stuff. I don't want to get my hopes up again for a translated ToDR, but here I go again. 
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Oct 24, 2014 00:48
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ChaosArgate posted:No? I mean they might've been trying to do Narikiri Dungeon X, which is on the same UMD/game but they weren't doing Phantasia X I'm pretty sure. The people who did the TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE translation patches for Phantasia PSX are working on a COMPLETELY NEW translation for Phantasia X. Yes, it's stupid. Fortunately, last time we knew anything they were working hard on Destiny remake.
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Oct 24, 2014 00:49
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Cross is the best version of Phantasia by a wide margin, which is entirely because it started taking tips from Eternia. Apart from general feel issues, which it's still the best at but not astronomically so, it has real-time spells and is unique among Phantasias in that regard. Unless the iOS one has those too, because I'm pretty sure Full Voice didn't (not that you should play the iOS one anyway - isn't it discontinued?) It does have Rondoline E. Effenburg in it, but... ehhhhh.
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Oct 24, 2014 06:31
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The iOS version was discontinued, yes. I think its still playable if you have it downloaded but you can't save and its locked to the hardest difficulty so you'd have to struggle through the game in one go.
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Oct 24, 2014 07:10
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RMZXAnarchy posted:The iOS version was discontinued, yes. I think its still playable if you have it downloaded but you can't save and its locked to the hardest difficulty so you'd have to struggle through the game in one go. I don't think it is, I'm pretty sure it just tells you it can't connect to the server as soon as you touch to start. I already deleted it off my phone so I can't double-check right now.
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Oct 24, 2014 11:49
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Endorph posted:Yes. He's your training dummy whenever you get a new weapon, and there're also three separate boss fights against him. Ivar basically got kicked out of his parents basement, and is now in the "finding himself" stage of life.
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Oct 24, 2014 13:56
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http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-008836&page=top Merchandise already? How do I know if I like the character when the game isn't even out.
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Oct 25, 2014 07:12
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i don't need to like an anime girl to buy a figurine of her
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Oct 25, 2014 07:14
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Cake Attack posted:i don't need to like an anime girl to buy a figurine of her What's the point of buying a character you know nothing about? That's like buying a tshirt of a band you've never listened to.
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Oct 25, 2014 08:27
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Megalixir posted:What's the point of buying a character you know nothing about? That's like buying a tshirt of a band you've never listened to. What's the sole reason the consumerbase buys figurines of female characters? You have your answer.
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Oct 25, 2014 08:29
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Neddy Seagoon posted:What's the sole reason the consumerbase buys figurines of female characters? You have your answer. Megalixir posted:What's the point of buying a character you know nothing about? That's like buying a tshirt of a band you've never listened to.
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Oct 25, 2014 09:12
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Megalixir posted:That's like buying a tshirt of a band you've never listened to. some store clerk gave me poo poo for that once
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Oct 25, 2014 17:00
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They revealed how Skills work. It's... involved. I'll write in detail later when I have time. On the other hand it seems they might be actually bonuses now, as opposed to important controls (every game, jesus, do you seriously need to make me earn Recovery) or character-defining style components. Also, the Lunarre (yeah apparently that's how you spell it) voice clip is real and it's amazing. Shame there's only one of it. The one for Symonne (yeah apparently that's how you spell it) is... something. I think I'm just having issues because it's very different from how I imagined she'd be.
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Oct 30, 2014 17:30
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 is there some accurate gauge of how much effort it would actually require to give us all of these neat outfits in the West? the madoka, code geass and vocaloid outfits were all fantastic and we never got any of it. it kills
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Oct 31, 2014 01:25
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Looks like Mikleo forgot wear his Asuka costume.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:34
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Momomo posted:Looks like Mikleo forgot wear his Asuka costume. Seriously he has white hair, why no Kaworu costume?
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Oct 31, 2014 01:35
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Excels posted:
Lots of begging I imagine, more than the begging for the Xillia 2 costumes because those obviously didn't come out. I imagine it'd require Bamco to go and try to sort these things out with the license holders in the US and Japan and to them that might just be too much effort for optional costume DLC.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:45
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Excels posted:
On top of international licensing there's probably extra localization, voice acting, and coordination. I wonder if the unreleased costume voice data is in the code for the other ones, though? Or the text resources, at that. Okay so let's talk about equipment and skills. Buckle your poo poo in.  Each piece of equipment (example given: Sorey's Ancient Earrings) comes with one default skill, and up to three other skills determined randomly -- Wait, wait, give me a minute. This system so far is basically from Tales of Destiny 2, and in that game, variants of equipment with additional bonuses (extra stats, damage types, resistances, etc.) were trash drops. You got them regularly, you could flip through the ones you had to find an perk you liked, and you could use crafting to try to splice traits you liked into other/higher weapons (of the same type, I think). It is a little like gems in Graces, except that you actually got axes or whatever instead of gems - which also meant the grinding loop of splice, temper, extract didn't exist. Other than that, the Destiny 2 system is shaped like Graces. The tier of the resulting weapon is averaged, and it retained the highest abilities of its components. Much less back-and-forth, though. Still here? Okay. So each piece of equipment comes with one default skill and up to three other skills determined randomly. Now here's where it gets weird.  In addition to just giving you a bonus, as Destiny 2 or Graces, each skill also lights up a box on the Skill Table, which you can check from the equipment screen with a button. And what's the point of that, you ask? Well, it seems that if you get the right patterns on your table, you get extra skill bonuses.  If you stack the same tile...  If you get horizontally adjacent tiles...  Or, for particularly good bonuses, if you get a full column. (The example given here is a +20 to every stat!) The site coyly says that the first two bonuses are unlocked if you have "two or more." Presumably it stacks if you go beyond 2. But Caphi, this sounds ridiculously luck-based! The game basically decides for you which tiles on the table get lit up! Well, yeah. But Destiny 2 gave you ability-bearing equipment en masse and let you fuse it to combine good abilities and keep the powerful ones. And so, it seems, does Zestiria. ...granted, the example they give involves splicing Sorey's default earrings (with a skill called Locking - don't ask me why, it's a Paralysis Check) into a second one that has both that and Bloody, resulting in an Ancient Earrings +1 that has both the skills of the latter (though, to be fair, a higher base bonus). Feels like they could have picked one that actually tells me how you can build up your four skills per equipment. (There are, for the record, five equipment slots and 50 squares on the grid, five elements and ten symbols. Dunno what the symbols mean or do.) And tempering? Not much data there. The site just says that equipment gets extra bonuses as it's tempered and fusing tempered equipment makes it even stronger. Other than whatever effect it has on crafting, though, it's a straightforward equipment xp system, unlike Graces with the extraction and all that.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:53
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Caphi posted:On top of international licensing there's probably extra localization, voice acting, and coordination. I wonder if the unreleased costume voice data is in the code for the other ones, though? Or the text resources, at that. I recall somebody saying the Star Driver text in X1 (and presumably X2 as well) was completely translated. Not that it really is anything significant, considering tons of games have cut content in localizations get translated or still exist in some form.
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Oct 31, 2014 02:02
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RMZXAnarchy posted:I recall somebody saying the Star Driver text in X1 (and presumably X2 as well) was completely translated. This isn't too uncommon if people are digging around in unused code. Localizing teams won't discriminate, typically they will just translate all text files regardless of importance.
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Oct 31, 2014 02:05
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Looks like Zestiria is getting a controller, and it comes with a bonus cloth of the characters in smaller form.  3980 yen, 22/1. What's interesting is that this is being made by Hori, who typically make controllers that are even better than the officials. I might pick it up.
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Oct 31, 2014 04:41
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That is a slick rear end controller.
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Oct 31, 2014 05:14
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The only problem I can see with it is that the left side will feel weird to hold. But it does look very nice. I just really want them to put down a more solid international date. I know Tales is on the up again in the west, but it's hard to fight the memories of when it was a miracle they'd even consider bringing it over.
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Oct 31, 2014 05:23
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Crabtree posted:I just really want them to put down a more solid international date.
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Oct 31, 2014 05:27
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I plan to buy the game on release for myself and then (assuming it pays off, like, 60% or so of my excitement) again in English to share. e: So... Zaveid definitely is the eighth party member? I can only continue to assume he counts as a human. Caphi fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Oct 31, 2014 |
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Oct 31, 2014 05:37
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Excels posted:
Am I the only one that thinks these look loving terrible?
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Oct 31, 2014 20:26
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They blew their load with the Madoka costumes that they already did and you can't even get anymore anyway.
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Oct 31, 2014 20:40
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KoB posted:Am I the only one that thinks these look loving terrible? they look better inside the robot cockpits tbh
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Oct 31, 2014 20:50
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Excels posted:they look better inside the robot cockpits tbh I guess I think theyre terrible in the source material as well, so maybe theyre spot on.
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Oct 31, 2014 20:52
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they're pretty accurate representions of the plugsuit outfits but the plugsuits weren't really made for 3d.
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