Tales Of Series appreciation thread.

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Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Nate RFB posted:

If it's anything like Soma Bringer, you have to have a ROM dump from the original game, apply the patch, and then place the patched ROM on a homebrew card (see the homebrew thread for details).

I can't remember anything regarding Innocence. How good is it compared to the other titles?

It had the potential to be really good, but was ultimately held down by ridiculously grindy bosses later on. A pair of back to back boss battles literally took me an hour and 15 minutes to beat, and this was on the lowest difficulty level. If you play it, you'll wanna cheat and give yourself increased EXP when that starts to happen.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2010 19:41

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 18:24

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HondaCivet posted:

Dear god. In these cases where they clearly don't have any money to spend on voice actors, why don't they just leave the Japanese voices in? The scenes are subtitled and only japofag nerds play these games anyway so I doubt anyone would mind.

They'd have to pay the Japanese cast again. Getting cheaper VAs to do the voices is probably a better decision, even if the result is... well, you know.

I've pretty much gotten to the point that I want the Tales studio go away. It's just too annoying to see yet another game we'll never be getting.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2010 20:34

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

I think people totally exaggerate when it comes to Dawn of the New World. It feels like an under-developed Abyss, and I definitely wouldn't call it bad.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2010 10:52

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Endorph posted:

From a gameplay perspective, Dawn of the New World wasn't terrible.

Of course when the only likable new character in your game is one of the villains, you have problems.

Tenebrae was the best character in the game, and it's not like Tales characters are very good to begin with.

"Lakitu7 posted:

Tebebrae was cool and the Tales Pokemon system was an interesting new twist. The first hour of COURAGE IS THE MAGIC THAT TURNS DREAMS INTO REALITY was the worst opener of any jrpg I've ever played but once I got past that it was an enjoyable game that'd be possibly even good if it weren't being compared to Symphonia, Abyss, and Vesperia.

This is exactly what I meant, it's a mediocre game in a series of great ones.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2010 21:14

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Mr. Fortitude posted:

All fair and valid points. I myself, feel DotNW could have been much better even as an escort title. As it stands it is completely mediocre. But I think comparing the game to something like The Last Airbender movie that was shat out by M. Night Shyamalan recently is a bit harsh.

It IS an escort title, that's why it had such a low budget. They were putting all their effort into Vesperia at the time.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2010 21:23

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Policenaut posted:

Don't stop believin', hold on to that-wait what the gently caress Tales of the Tempest?!

Apparently if you search on GameStop's Points thing for Tales games; Graces, Vesperia PS3, and Tempest show up. Someone sent me a thread on a few other websites about this and it's pretty promising. It's like a GameFly leak.

Don't get your hopes up, this is probably just an error. They would never localize Tempest (the most hated Tales game) while stuff like Innocence and Hearts are around.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2010 07:20

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

RM3 comes out later this year, so they should just localize that one. It has a 80 characters, instead of RM2's 50.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2010 08:59

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Abyss was made before skippable cutscenes was an industry standard. Sorry, but there's no way to get past dialogue. You also can't skip the anime cutscenes, either.

# ¿ Nov 11, 2010 19:52

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There are spa scenes in at least a couple more games. Phantasia had multiple ones, and so does Hearts. Symphonia 2 also gets a couple. All of them involve spying on the other group, so I guess the Tales studio really are pervs.

# ¿ Nov 29, 2010 06:12

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wdarkk posted:

Five Words: Dawn of the New World.

Writing on the same level as other tales games, and gameplay that's like watered down Abyss. I don't see what makes this game stick out so much.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2010 04:42

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Yeah, that line is terrible, but Tales has always been a terribly written series. Dawn of the New World just happened to have its own catchphrase.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2010 04:47

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Blackbelt Bobman posted:

I just booted up Symphonia 2 again because I'm on kind of a Tales kick (and wdarkk's testpost in the LP sandcastle rekindled my interest) and I seriously can't believe Emil and Guy have the same voice actor who was also the second Black Ranger. (and later, the Green ranger) It's so weird.

You must not play many games. Dude's everywhere.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2010 22:53

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Xythar posted:

It's more that we haven't had any since 2008 and it's not looking likely that we'll get any more in a hurry. So far we have exactly one current gen Tales game (Symphonia 2 doesn't count ) which is pretty piss-poor compared to the previous generation.

We only got three last gen, didn't we? Symphonia, Abyss and Legendia. They kept the Destiny games and Rebirth to themselves. Last gen wasn't much better than getting two this time.

# ¿ Dec 16, 2010 02:42

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Blackbelt Bobman posted:

Although for some reason I didn't feel like a badass using Emil's Mystic Arte, hmm. . . he's basically a cheap ripoff Judith anyway.

Because all the Mystic Artes in that game are terrible.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2010 04:17

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Looks like they've added a date. Are we really going to have to wait an entire week for them to announce this?

# ¿ Jan 26, 2011 22:35

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Stelas posted:

At this point I'm assuming the graphic will resolve into a big photo of a hand flipping the bird.

That's almost what I see this as.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2011 22:59

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Can't wait for this big reveal to be Soul Calibur Legends 2 or something.

# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 01:53

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

I dunno, I thought Luke's growth was done pretty well. Certainly better than any other character in the Tales games I've played (Symphonia, DotNW, Innocence, Abyss, Phantasia, Hearts though I couldn't read it). What I liked was that he didn't go "I want to change" and instantly he's a good person, it actually took time before he got settled in a new persona.

Then again, I went into the game expecting Symphonia on the PS2 and didn't get it, so it might be a case of lowered expectations.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2011 21:51

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ruta posted:

Edit: Here's a screenshot of the DLC, pre-order special costumes for Graces F. I don't think anyone's linked them lately.

Giving the little girl of the group Rutee's costume is about the creepiest thing ever.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2011 09:50

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I always hear about these terrible Abyss loading times, but I never experienced them. Did waiting maybe five seconds from touching an enemy to fighting really annoy people that much?

# ¿ Feb 6, 2011 19:37

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Skeezy posted:

From what I hear, on the world map the loading times are worse as opposed to fighting an enemy in a dungeon.

I hear the same thing and yet I didn't notice any significant difference.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2011 19:39

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wdarkk posted:

Is it just me or is combat in Dawn of the New World like fighting on an ice skating rink? It feels like everything slides around too much. I'm wondering if this is something other people notice or it's just me hating on it unfairly. It feels like it's a lot harder to handle multiple enemies than it was in Symphonia, but maybe it's just because the monster AI sucks balls and there are more enemies on average than before.

I don't remember any sliding around, but I do remember attacking being really awkward. Like, Emil won't actually swing his sword until after you let go of A, instead of when you pressed it.

Also, I played Abyss on a fat PS2.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2011 22:24

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Samurai Sanders posted:

edit: I just realized that Abyss doesn't have one. Jade kinda sorta fulfills that role, but not really. If I remember right, Van does most of the explaining about the ancient stuff.

It's Guy that goes all crazy over fontech stuff. Though he doesn't start rubbing his body all over it or anything, thank god.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2011 04:01

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Gotta say, I'm pretty disappointed in that new character. They're usually pretty good about not making the generic love interest the healer (only times I know of are Mint and Cheria). Where's my huge, axe wielding tank healer, Namco? :argh:

# ¿ Feb 8, 2011 21:16

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wdarkk posted:

Don't forget Marta ().

Do I have to?

So I've been playing Innocence again (I never finished it in English) and holy poo poo I remember why I stopped. This game could've been so good, if it wasn't for these horrific dungeons. It's really hard to like this game when you have to spend an hour walking through generic pathways with absolutely no landmarks.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2011 21:32

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Amppelix posted:

I played a bit of Hearts (Maybe an hour?) And it seemed like most battles came down to: Mash attack and/or arte button until the combo gauge runs out. Run away to recharge. Repeat. This is because no enemy could do anything while stuck in a combo, and they couldn't really stop you from recharging the gauge either. And this isn't like Graces where you've got enough juice for maybe 4 attacks, no. That gauge will last you for at least ten. I dunno, maybe I was doing something wrong.

It's like that at first, but then becomes a game of the enemy just deciding your hits don't connect half way through a combo, followed by them stun locking you. It makes people like Innes (slow attacker) much harder to use and seems like they didn't put a whole lot of thought into the system. It's fun as hell, but random encounters can get really frustrating.

(Also gently caress Chalcedony for using his Mystic Arte twice in a row)

# ¿ Feb 9, 2011 17:56

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Really hope those screenshots are just bad quality (just look at Nintendo Power's DS screens) cause if they're not, that's really disappointing. The first screens we saw of the game looked much better though, so I'm pretty sure that's the problem.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2011 20:45

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

I remember seeing vids of such, even replacing Emil and Marta in one cutscene with the two of them.

# ¿ Feb 19, 2011 00:50

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Portable Staplefrog posted:

The Tales people on the other hand know better. They gave us Luke in an otherwise well-done game so they can laugh at us.

These same people wrote the Symphonia characters, who are probably the most annoying band of RPG characters ever created.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2011 20:44

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Two annoying characters is far more tolerable than nine of them.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2011 20:50

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Policenaut posted:

So the next Tales of Xillia character looks like a vampire or from Castlevania or something. I'm gonna guess she's the "cold and quiet" stereotype who has some sort of zany quirk to her, like she turns super violent at the sight of rabbits or something and OH HO Jude and friends have to visit the Valley of Rabbits and we get an event scene where she pulls out a giant hammer or some other kind of giant object and the funny "gag" music plays.

Yes I play Tales games.

Are we sure it's a "she"?

# ¿ Feb 24, 2011 00:06

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mistaya posted:

I guess if you ignore everything you can find out about him?

Jade is a mad scientist who kinda hosed some poo poo up and was not terribly ethical about it, he's a colonel in the 'enemy' military and a spy for their king, and he's in charge of babysitting/keeping the party teen-crew+the pope alive. Because he's been ordered to.

He's not just the sarcastic character, he's a driver of a lot of the plot and behind the scenes stuff.

Jade's whole character has always seemed kind of weird to me. He never seemed emotionally involved in the slightest, and it just seemed out of place that he was part of the team.

Also, I don't remember him being a spy, he just gave reports to the king.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2011 02:43

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Symphonia was my first "real" Tales game (I played Phantasia GBA before but... yeah), and ever since then I realized I should just ignore everything story related, and focus solely on the battle system. Luckily it was probably one of the best I've ever played, so I've been able to play the games without much trouble.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2011 21:22

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Megalixir posted:

Good news and bad news. First up, the bad news: look at this framerate.

Also, apparently in the latest Nintendo Power, they talk about the game and how the 3DS ROM size is giving them difficulties. Not enough space.

The good news is that there's now a 3 minute PV up.

That second video's footage doesn't look nearly as bad as the first's. Could it just be a problem with the recording?

# ¿ May 2, 2011 18:29

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

I never bothered with cooking in Tales games, since the effects of recipes was always really tiny, and you only have two opportunities to cook anything (after a battle and once before you enter another one).

Innocence's system was the best, you could cook whenever you wanted and they became items. There was no cooking skill involved, you just needed certain recipes to be able to make others. Of course, finding the recipes can become pure hell with the dungeons, but that's a problem with area design.

# ¿ May 7, 2011 06:06

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ruta posted:

The DLC costumes are far superior to Vesperia's though, on account of the BGM changes.

Graces doesn't have Asura Repede. :colbert:

Alt costumes are one of the reasons I love Tales games. Instead of forcing the player to do things in one way (YOU MUST USE LLOYD) they just let you do whatever (Don't like em? To hell with them! Now you never have to use Colette again!).

# ¿ May 13, 2011 20:13

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SpazmasterX posted:

I doubt we'll see any special costume DLC. They never released any for Vesperia outside of costume sets with outfits and items you could already obtain in the game.

Which is a loving travesty. I wanted those ultimate armor and school uniform sets.

Pretty sure those were PS3 only, which is even more of a kick in the balls to people that bought the 360 version.

# ¿ May 16, 2011 02:01

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wdarkk posted:

Also I'm almost through Abyss. Is it weird that I like the character of Ion and Florian?

Yes. Yes it is. Their voices alone are enough to make them the worst characters in the game. Also, Ion died from reading, not even Luke can outpussify that.

# ¿ May 16, 2011 02:21

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

I'd rather it be costumes than say, ten hours of gameplay that was clearly held back so they could release it on another system. It still gives the feeling that Namco doesn't really "get" DLC though.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2011 23:45

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 18:24

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Rascyc posted:

Yeah, look at those jokers who thought they could make big bucks by selling hats in an fps game . . .

You can get those hats without paying for them though, unlike these costumes.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2011 01:35

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