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chiyosdad
May 05, 2004

"I wish I were a bird!"

Thanks. Right, that's what I figured it meant, but then why does he say

Psych posted:

A surprising number of webcomics fail to do this because the designers insist on throwing their logo directly above tall comic pages (Gunnerkrigg, I'm looking at you).

The entirety of the comic can't fit above the fold, so why does it matter if the logo is on top? Aren't you going to have to scroll anyway?

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fesworks
Aug 06, 2008

*GASP*

chiyosdad posted:

The entirety of the comic can't fit above the fold, so why does it matter if the logo is on top? Aren't you going to have to scroll anyway?

I see nothing wrong with having clear-to-read logos at the top, as long as people's ads (if any) are also at the top. Sometimes I've seen comics with logos and ads at the top, but done so poorly that it looks a mess, or is hard to tell WHAT website you are looking at.

In any case, when a comic is taller, enough of it should be above the fold (for at LEAST 1024x768 resolution, which is min. "standard" as I am told), that one can tell that the comic is new/updated from last time.

In my opinion and experience.

Red Bean Juice
Nov 09, 2008


chiyosdad posted:

The entirety of the comic can't fit above the fold, so why does it matter if the logo is on top? Aren't you going to have to scroll anyway?

But it can fit, at least on my 1024-px-tall display. Mind you, it just barely squeezes in, so any kind of logo and navigation above the comic would force some degree of scrolling. And I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, as long as it's just one or two turns of my scrollwheel.

Psych
Feb 13, 2005

The Infernal

chiyosdad posted:

Thanks. Right, that's what I figured it meant, but then why does he say

Psych posted:

A surprising number of webcomics fail to do this because the designers insist on throwing their logo directly above tall comic pages (Gunnerkrigg, I'm looking at you).

Because I'm full of poo poo.

Now can we put this to rest?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007


Did 8-Bit Theater seriously just  end with IT WAS ALL A DREAM? 

I mean, it's gotten pretty convoluted, but I was hoping for something...else.

MechaFrogzilla
Jun 25, 2007


Oxxidation posted:

Did 8-Bit Theater seriously just  end with IT WAS ALL A DREAM? 

I mean, it's gotten pretty convoluted, but I was hoping for something...else.

Hahaha, like what?

 If that's really it, congrats to Brian for finally wrapping it up! 

 edit: if you can call that "wrapped up", that is.  

SynthOrange
May 06, 2007

Oh, I'm afraid you are sadly mistaken if you thought these were for you.

All that pain and suffering throughout the years was for nothing!

CarnivorousThing
Nov 06, 2005

Sigh. I really wanted that sandwich, too...


Oxxidation posted:

Did 8-Bit Theater seriously just  end with IT WAS ALL A DREAM? 

I mean, it's gotten pretty convoluted, but I was hoping for something...else.

It ended exactly the way it should end.

Hotwire
Mar 11, 2006

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. Group TEA!


In the meantime, Today's QC is... certainly something.

(Although I do loathe the new site design.)

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007

Bitches don't know about my Holiness

Oxxidation posted:

Did 8-Bit Theater seriously just  end with IT WAS ALL A DREAM? 

I mean, it's gotten pretty convoluted, but I was hoping for something...else.

Looking at the forum, it seems it was a poke at people complaining about filler.

This is another reason why specialised webcomic forums are terrible, the amount of sycophancy there is horrendous.

Hyperactive
Mar 10, 2004

RICHARDS!

More accurately, it's a poke at myself. You actually read that thing? It'd take those characters a hundred pages and a convoluted aside to string theory to get their shoes tied.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007


Yeah, but they make up for it a little bit whenever Black Mage's straightforward violence or Fighter's linguistic acumen immediately clears up complex obstacles.

A lot of fantasy settings are by definition convoluted all to heck, 8-Bit just does it in a slightly different way.

Tom's Dinner
Sep 11, 2001

I play Wii Tennis naked

Hotwire posted:

In the meantime, Today's QC is... certainly something.

(Although I do loathe the new site design.)

This strip concerns me a little more. Is he basically saying this is it? This is as far as it goes for story? QC's been treading water for a while, but this seems to be Jeph confirming it.

Soylentbits
Apr 02, 2007

Made of people. Stays crunchy in milk.

Hotwire posted:

In the meantime, Today's QC is... certainly something.

(Although I do loathe the new site design.)

Well tapirs eat dreams so that seemed normal enough to me. Punchline fell flat though.

ZorbaTHut
May 05, 2005

wake me when the world is saved

Tom's Dinner posted:

This strip concerns me a little more. Is he basically saying this is it? This is as far as it goes for story? QC's been treading water for a while, but this seems to be Jeph confirming it.

I think you are reading far too much into it.

LittleCat
Oct 24, 2004



Tom's Dinner posted:

This strip concerns me a little more. Is he basically saying this is it? This is as far as it goes for story? QC's been treading water for a while, but this seems to be Jeph confirming it.

You are definitely reading too much into this, and also, what are you expecting? It's a comic where very little has ever happened. If you're waiting for it to pick up and get exciting, you're probably wasting your time.

fesworks
Aug 06, 2008

*GASP*

LittleCat posted:

You are definitely reading too much into this, and also, what are you expecting? It's a comic where very little has ever happened. If you're waiting for it to pick up and get exciting, you're probably wasting your time.

It should be noted that TIME itself in QC travels slowly compared to the updating of the comic. Some comics have time that progressed much faster inbetween strips/pages. But many comics, like QC, in the last 3 months of updates, how many days have actually passed? Granted it all may not be that "riviting" but its more or less a drama comic with several characters to approach during a given time-frame. So it may seem to drag its feet a bit about things actually happening... Of course I, too, may also be reading into it.

Of course, a great drama/action comic that moves time in a similar way (but also quickly paced in between stories), would be Sorcery 101, which is all sorts of awesome, and one of the few drama (though stretching the term, I'm sure) webcomics that I read.

.... though comparing the two just isn't fair... but I can't think of another webcomic that moves time at a similar pace, as far as a drama comic with a lot of characters to touch on all of the time.... but them again, maybe that's the "problem" wherein a lack of focus, and therefore, a seeming lack of progression occurs.

... if any of what I said makes sense o_O


EDIT: Just realized that the time progression and character approchment is not the same at all as for Sorcery 101, but it still being a great drama/action comic still stands.

fesworks fucked around with this message at Dec 11, 2008 around 23:07

ZorbaTHut
May 05, 2005

wake me when the world is saved

fesworks posted:

.... though comparing the two just isn't fair... but I can't think of another webcomic that moves time at a similar pace, as far as a drama comic with a lot of characters to touch on all of the time.... but them again, maybe that's the "problem" wherein a lack of focus, and therefore, a seeming lack of progression occurs.

The Mansion of E has been churning along as a roughly-daily comic for a little over five years now (the 1900th strip was posted about two weeks ago.) It's still on the second day of plot . . . and the first day took exactly 12 strips.

Vanadium
Jan 08, 2005



ZorbaTHut posted:

The Mansion of E has been churning along as a roughly-daily comic for a little over five years now (the 1900th strip was posted about two weeks ago.) It's still on the second day of plot . . . and the first day took exactly 12 strips.

Could you summarise what is going on there? I am afraid I would need a bit more than two days to catch up on all that.

ZorbaTHut
May 05, 2005

wake me when the world is saved

Vanadium posted:

Could you summarise what is going on there? I am afraid I would need a bit more than two days to catch up on all that.

There are some people. There are many things that are not people. There are probably more mysteries than there are characters, and the writer is insane.

Seriously, I could give a summary of the plot, but it basically comes down to "we have no loving clue what's going on". I'm about 99% sure that the writer is going to somehow tie everything up eventually, but I really couldn't tell you how.

This is the kind of comic where the author posts a map, and adds a note explaining that the map is not actually accurate, but is just what the main characters think the nearby area is like. He's got everything figured out, we just don't know any of it.

Honestly, if you want a summary . . . it's impossible. Read the comic. If you like it, you like it, if you don't, you don't. vv

PirateZim
Apr 24, 2005



fesworks posted:

It should be noted that TIME itself in QC travels slowly compared to the updating of the comic. Some comics have time that progressed much faster inbetween strips/pages. But many comics, like QC, in the last 3 months of updates, how many days have actually passed? Granted it all may not be that "riviting" but its more or less a drama comic with several characters to approach during a given time-frame. So it may seem to drag its feet a bit about things actually happening... Of course I, too, may also be reading into it.

It's not about how much time has passed in the story at all, but rather how many plot points have occurred. In QC's case, this number is ZERO.

LittleCat
Oct 24, 2004



PirateZim posted:

It's not about how much time has passed in the story at all, but rather how many plot points have occurred. In QC's case, this number is ZERO.

That was pretty much what I meant before fesworks got all confused about the passage of time in relation to the update speed vis a vis the intricacies of the interpersonal relationships. And I sorta like the comic.

Relationship dramas are my secret weakness.

fesworks
Aug 06, 2008

*GASP*

Oh, well, if you are talking about Plot points, you could say that QC has a ton of prospective plots... though open-ended that never went much of anywhere and/or kinda just fizzled.

Unless you count the one where Pintsize had a laser in his casing... though, then again, it ended by introducing a character we didn't really see until another plot point where there was this girl that attacked guys that used women, or something.... then again, they kinda seem out of place, or injected, but don't really go anywhere, nor really evolve the main characters.

Then again, you could think of QC as a sorta slice-of-life comic... I mean, how many "plot points" really show up in regular, crappy 'ol life? Not much of anything really... though I kinda doubt QC is like that intentionally. I guess I keep reading QC for the same reason I read Candi... I keep waiting for something to happen. I don't *hate* either comic, though I don't love either of them (Candi much less-so).

*shrug*

Chicken Parmigiana
Sep 12, 2007

PUBLIC RELATIONS


CHRIST, when did this thread get so dull?

Syrg
Mar 27, 2007

i began to float up
(and away from my body)

Patrick Alexander posted:

CHRIST, when did this thread get so dull?

- nobody brings lovely comics here to mock anymore because other (YCS, PHIZ) threads took that duty
- no new infusions of popular comic creators recently to spur up fresh discussion
- holidays/finals week
- no meltdowns for a thread or so now

ZorbaTHut
May 05, 2005

wake me when the world is saved

Syrg posted:

- no meltdowns for a thread or so now

I summon thee, Spirit of Pupkin! Bobby Crosby! Bobby Crosby! Bobby Crosby!

(it's worth a try)

SuperHappy
Aug 22, 2004



OK...


"Too verbose and complicated for the fast-paced internet" is a pretty nice way to phrase why nobody ever likes to read good webcomics.

jzmz
Dec 01, 2004

715517


I think I'm going to re-add Overcompensating to my bookmarks folder.

MagnoliaPearl
Sep 30, 2008


Man, how good was Gunnerkrigg today? Seriously.I love the way Coyote is drawn in the second panel, and the last panel is nicely understated. I'm even more excited for this chapter, if that's possible.

I hope we learn more about Eglamore's friend Sivo. I always wish Annie would ask him about that instead of just condemning him for keeping Reynardine chained up.

Also, yeah, I wasn't reading Overcompensating for a while because I got tired of the "humanity is worthless" theme, but it's always funny and it seems more lighthearted lately.

Brannock
Feb 09, 2006



I don't get today's McNinja.

Doctor McNinja
Mar 28, 2003



I'm sorry.

Desty
Aug 27, 2006

Professor Nova Sez: Life is a karmic struggle in which the weak are ultimately crushed!

Hi, goons! My friend who posts here told me I should buy an account here so I can make you guys to read my webmanga. Paying ten dollars for a forum account sure is Something Awful, neh? ^.^

My name is Des and my comic is called Desworks! I update every day, or at least every day I can update! -_-;; It's a story about a guy who is also named Des, but he is not me, 'cause how could a comic char write about himself?

So I was hoping you goons could give me some goonstructive critigoonism, because there are a lot of webcomic people in here I really like (tho I wish Mr. Abrams was here cuz that was one of the first webcomics I read and I really like sluggy!). I think I've improved a lot since I started at the beginning of the year. Here's my first page. I got a lot better at drawing and telling stories, but you don't need me to tell you that when you can see for yourself! I drew this over Thanksgiving break, it was a lot of work but I think it really payed off! Some of you may not have heard of my comic, so I will let you know that this took place after the rock and rolls concert that Des was in for the school (spoiler! XXXXXX he won! XXXXXX) A lot of my readers told me they liked the serious story I developed - maybe I should write movies!! ~.^

I know it's getting to be Christmas, so as part of my big debut here on Something Awful I thought what I'd do was share some of my old holiday manga to get us all in the mood! Here is the one I did for Thanksgiving (they celebrate that in Canada too, so it's okay to put it up!), and here is one I did for another holiday. I've been working extra special hard on this next one, and I want you guys to be the first to see it. Here is the Deswork's First Annual Christmas Spectacular Special!! I think the drawing it all by hand is the most important part ~.^

So what do you think, goons???

PirateZim
Apr 24, 2005



Brannock posted:

I don't get today's McNinja.

well at least you got the moral

Fesworks posted:

Then again, you could think of QC as a sorta slice-of-life comic... I mean, how many "plot points" really show up in regular, crappy 'ol life? Not much of anything really... though I kinda doubt QC is like that intentionally. I guess I keep reading QC for the same reason I read Candi... I keep waiting for something to happen. I don't *hate* either comic, though I don't love either of them (Candi much less-so).

Whose life is that ridiculous? No one's, that's who. Besides, "slice-of-life" comics as you call them are the complete antithesis of comics. People don't read them to vicariously live someoneELSE's boring life, they read to vicariously live someone else's interesting life. They all end up being "Check out how witty I WOULD have been in this situation that happened to me, if I had thought of this earlier."

You should just go away because you know very little about comics, and none of it is useful.

PirateZim fucked around with this message at Dec 12, 2008 around 16:39

CrushedB
Jun 02, 2008



Brannock posted:

I don't get today's McNinja.

I didn't either, until I went back and looked at this page.

Basically,  Gordito shot the glasses guy (even though Martin was pointing at someone else) on purpose, so that the Robster would figure out the ruse, endanger Gordito and the Doc, and force Martin to transform. 

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007

Bitches don't know about my Holiness

Desty posted:

Hi, goons! My friend who posts here told me I should buy an account here so I can make you guys to read my webmanga. Paying ten dollars for a forum account sure is Something Awful, neh? ^.^

My name is Des and my comic is called Desworks! I update every day, or at least every day I can update! -_-;; It's a story about a guy who is also named Des, but he is not me, 'cause how could a comic char write about himself?

So I was hoping you goons could give me some goonstructive critigoonism, because there are a lot of webcomic people in here I really like (tho I wish Mr. Abrams was here cuz that was one of the first webcomics I read and I really like sluggy!). I think I've improved a lot since I started at the beginning of the year. Here's my first page. I got a lot better at drawing and telling stories, but you don't need me to tell you that when you can see for yourself! I drew this over Thanksgiving break, it was a lot of work but I think it really payed off! Some of you may not have heard of my comic, so I will let you know that this took place after the rock and rolls concert that Des was in for the school (spoiler! XXXXXX he won! XXXXXX) A lot of my readers told me they liked the serious story I developed - maybe I should write movies!! ~.^

I know it's getting to be Christmas, so as part of my big debut here on Something Awful I thought what I'd do was share some of my old holiday manga to get us all in the mood! Here is the one I did for Thanksgiving (they celebrate that in Canada too, so it's okay to put it up!), and here is one I did for another holiday. I've been working extra special hard on this next one, and I want you guys to be the first to see it. Here is the Deswork's First Annual Christmas Spectacular Special!! I think the drawing it all by hand is the most important part ~.^

So what do you think, goons???

This is really good.

Sulevis
Sep 12, 2007



Hey, I come bearing two comics that this thread has (wrongfully) forgotten about :

The Rainbow Orchid
Ellie Connelly

They could both be termed, loosely, Herge pastiches, though they're quite different in tone and art style. Ellie Connelly would be the more light-hearted of the two, while Rainbow Orchid pays precise attention to period detail. Both are quite pleasant reads.

Ellie Connelly has sadly ground to a half halt* recently, after relatively few pages, due to Indigo Kelleigh running out of buffer. So, please everyone, click on that second link so the bump in traffic encourages him to work on a buffer again.

EDIT:

I forgot, there's one more: Johnny Crossbones. I haven't read all of it yet, but it looks quite fun.

*I'm an idiot.

Sulevis fucked around with this message at Dec 12, 2008 around 17:12

boxbrown
Sep 25, 2008


Patrick Alexander posted:

CHRIST, when did this thread get so dull?

Right after I got here. Also, whoever it was that removed Overcomp. from their bookmarks needs head examination.

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

limaCAT-Kni-Hum-Mal-Law died in The Dungeons of Doom on level 22.
Turned cat while helpless.

Does anyone here read The 19th Century Industrialist?

Desty posted:

So what do you think, goons???

Surely next year's Eisner winner, even if I don't fully get the social subtext hidden inside the thanksgiving comic.

Sulevis
Sep 12, 2007



limaCAT posted:

Does anyone here read The 19th Century Industrialist?

Yes, when I remember it exists. I should bookmark it.

ChuckDHead
Dec 18, 2006
Rap music, my droogs!

SuperHappy posted:

OK...


"Too verbose and complicated for the fast-paced internet" is a pretty nice way to phrase why nobody ever likes to read good webcomics.

Complicated maybe, but people love Buckley's work, and that's pretty verbose.

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