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Hopefully this should make some people happy (especially the price). $50, 4 tuners, OTA only: http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/25/tivo-roamio-ota-dvr/
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Yeah, but at $15 /month for the guide data (really, that much for what probably amounts to 6-10 stations in most areas?!?), you be better off just getting Hulu+ and buying anything not on there à la carte from your marketplace of choice (Amazon, Google Play, iTunes.)
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bull3964 posted:Yeah, but at $15 /month for the guide data (really, that much for what probably amounts to 6-10 stations in most areas?!?), you be better off just getting Hulu+ and buying anything not on there à la carte from your marketplace of choice (Amazon, Google Play, iTunes.) This. Their guide information isn't worth that much for a handful of channels. Now if the lifetime subscription is less than $200 we are talking.
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I think the problem is the subs fund their otherwise unsustainable business model.
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The whole Tivo story is apparently them trying real hard to hide the actual costs of their service. I can understand when they were getting started they couldn't charge a grand for a box but nowadays they pretty much do if you pay for lifetime [now $500] but I guess that's still not enough. I guess they tried for so long to sell to cable companies instead of consumers but that never really worked out for them.
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Aug 25, 2014 21:35
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As someone who's been fairly vocal about being unhappy about Tivo, the new update has resolved at least some of my complaints. Menus are much faster and the new folder organization makes suggestions less intrusive to have on.
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qirex posted:The whole Tivo story is apparently them trying real hard to hide the actual costs of their service. I can understand when they were getting started they couldn't charge a grand for a box but nowadays they pretty much do if you pay for lifetime [now $500] but I guess that's still not enough. I guess they tried for so long to sell to cable companies instead of consumers but that never really worked out for them. I still can't get over the fact that there's a monthly service fee on the Mini, even though it simply carves out a piece the hardware you've already purchased (and are paying service on), and place-shifts it within your house. You're paying twice for for the same thing. I would've thought that half billion dollars from Echostar would've gone towards changing things, but here we are three years later with the same business model from 2000 and very little new on the features front.
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Honestly $15 a month seems reasonable enough, I mean, what should it cost? They have been pretty good about regular updates, the guide data is near flawless and renting a DVR from the cable company costs what $10? I'm going to accept that their awesome guide data and regular software updates costs money, what should I pay? $5? $2? $10? Maybe it is a tad on the expensive side, I dunno how much of it if is making up any below market cost on the hardware but $15 a month has never seemed outrageous to me.
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kitten smoothie posted:I still can't get over the fact that there's a monthly service fee on the Mini, even though it simply carves out a piece the hardware you've already purchased (and are paying service on), and place-shifts it within your house. You're paying twice for for the same thing. There's a service fee because it's literally a whole roamio minus a tuner and HDD they're selling for ~$90, and they need to make money since you're probably replacing (or buying instead) of a full tivo you'd pay service on. The lifetime is so cheap on the mini compared to a full tivo, if you don't do lifetime it's just silly.
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They also have to license the guide data. I'm guessing it went something like "Well, we have to charge SOMETHING to pay for the guide data, what is the most people will pay since it's not going to be zero."
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Aug 26, 2014 00:48
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Three Olives posted:
Tivo gets their guide data from Tribune Media Services like nearly every other cable company in existence. There's nothing special at all about it. Yes, they have to license it, but so do the cable companies. We also need to stop pretending like there's $500 worth of hardware in these boxes anymore. The SoC isn't much more than you would find on any other set-top streamer in the $100 range (like a FireTV). This this one is OTA only, so it's not like they have to license out CableCard either.
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I spoke too soon, maybe they're revising the pricing on the Mini to no longer be "$99 with an asterisk." Zatz has usually been pretty reliable on this stuff. http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2014-08/tivo-to-drop-mini-service-fees/
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kitten smoothie posted:I spoke too soon, maybe they're revising the pricing on the Mini to no longer be "$99 with an asterisk." Zatz has usually been pretty reliable on this stuff. I think that right around the $200 price point would be reasonable, and in reality it's only a $50 price break-- but the psychological factor of under $200 with no service fee is powerful.
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Qwijib0 posted:I think that right around the $200 price point would be reasonable, and in reality it's only a $50 price break-- but the psychological factor of under $200 with no service fee is powerful. A $200 mini with no fee would get me to get a six tuner Roamio pro with lifetime and three TiVo Minis immediately. I gots old hardware to replace and the mini fee is the only hurdle.
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Aug 29, 2014 05:45
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http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2014-08/amazon-instant-vudu-coming-to-tivo/ loving FINALLY
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Deathlove posted:http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2014-08/amazon-instant-vudu-coming-to-tivo/ God drat it, yes, yes, yes, yes. The Amazon app was poo poo, extremely limited catalog and they would take FOREVER to download, like 40 minutes to start watching a movie on my 30 Mbps connection. This was the dumbest oversight with TiVo, having a full VOD catalog especially if it is in the unified search adds a ton of value to TiVo.
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Ever think you don't have enough TV in your life? TiVo has the answer, the TiVo Mega http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/09/tivo-announces-tivo-mega-a-rackmount-dvr-with-six-tuners-and-24-tb/ 24tb of storage in a 4u rack mount chassis. Yours for just $5k (I sure as hell hope that includes lifetime.) quote:With a release date currently scheduled for the first quarter of 2015, the Mega will come in a 10-bay, 19" rack-mount enclosure that appears to be 4U tall, judging from the PR images. The Mega's bays will be filled with hard drives in a RAID5 array, yielding 24TB of storage. RAID 5 strikes me as a bad idea for what are likely 3tb drives. RAID6 would have been a better choice.
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And only 6 tuners? I don't know how many I feel like it should have but more than a Roamio seems in order, maybe 10?
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That sounds like it's halfway between a normal Tivo and industrial strength multichannel monitoring systems. Maybe they can sell them to people who want to start media watchdog youtube channels?
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Three Olives posted:And only 6 tuners? I don't know how many I feel like it should have but more than a Roamio seems in order, maybe 10? Probably didn't want the complexity of having two tuning adapters attached to one device, though for $5 K this seems like a solvable problem.
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Thousands of hours of video, still can't watch them on an Android device or in a Web browser. 
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I just up ironically looked at my rack to see if I could rearrange it to have 4U of space. Xbox Uno and OG Wii would have to go, but it may be possible. If my two Premiere XLs both died and the Mega was out I would consider it seriously. Wait a second, I could just put the Mega in my home office closet, couldn't I?
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Ultimate Mango posted:I just up ironically looked at my rack to see if I could rearrange it to have 4U of space. Xbox Uno and OG Wii would have to go, but it may be possible. If my two Premiere XLs both died and the Mega was out I would consider it seriously. It probably has video out, but yeah, it's supposed to go in a rack and then just talk to minis.
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If you can afford five large for this, a couple Minis (now $149 with "free" lifetime service) aren't a major added expense.
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chemosh6969 posted:That's a lot of cash to throw down for something that won't be updated after a few years. I thought this product was positioned at the sort of person who buys a $12,000 argon purged HDMI cable with connectors made from an alloy of adamantium and mithril.
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20.4.4 Release Noteshttp://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=520804 posted:- You can set a Season Pass to record on all channels, instead of just one http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=520804
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Still no 'record only reruns once, forever' option for season passes. The month-long timer for reruns is pretty worthless.
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Qwijib0 posted:Still no 'record only reruns once, forever' option for season passes. The month-long timer for reruns is pretty worthless. I would love this. I hate duplicated shows but want to see previous entries. Such a hassle.
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jink posted:20.4.4 Release Notes Bless that future Season Pass news. Anyone do MoCA with minis and a Roamio? Experiences? Thoughts?
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I've been waiting for that season pass for thing outside guide data for ages, yeesh. Edit: I have a Roamio plus and a premiere 4 tuner hooked up via moca and it's fantastic. Streaming is as good as being on the unit the content is on. Plus the Roamio is a bridge for the game consoles downstairs so they don't have to be on wireless. Dogen fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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I work for Comcast with cable cards, usually the activation line fixes any problems you've got but if they don't shoot me a PM and I'll help get ya sorted out.
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Deathlove posted:Bless that future Season Pass news. I know someone who has a roamio+mini with draft-N wireless bridge, all you really need is a sustained ~20mbit because it won't transcode, and that's the max a channel could be but most are far less than that. I think tivo just wanted to make sure you know what you were getting into with not-ethernet so they didn't have to deal with support for flaky wifi or MoCA issues. Done with decent coax, MoCA should be fine.
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Qwijib0 posted:I know someone who has a roamio+mini with draft-N wireless bridge, all you really need is a sustained ~20mbit because it won't transcode, and that's the max a channel could be but most are far less than that. I think tivo just wanted to make sure you know what you were getting into with not-ethernet so they didn't have to deal with support for flaky wifi or MoCA issues. Done with decent coax, MoCA should be fine. quote =/= edit
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Dogen posted:I've been waiting for that season pass for thing outside guide data for ages, yeesh. Your Premiere has built in MoCa? I had to get a moca adapter for the room with my premiere....
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Ultimate Mango posted:Your Premiere has built in MoCa? I had to get a moca adapter for the room with my premiere.... The 4-tuner Premiere, Premiere XL, and Roamio Plus/Pro have built-in MoCA. The original 2-tuner Premiere doesn't, and neither does the bottom-end 4-tuner Roamio.
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kitten smoothie posted:The 4-tuner Premiere, Premiere XL, and Roamio Plus/Pro have built-in MoCA. The original 2-tuner Premiere doesn't, and neither does the bottom-end 4-tuner Roamio. Yeah I think I have the original two tuner Premiere XLs that must not have MoCa. drat.
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Yeah, that's the model I've got, too. I actually use one of these things, combined with a little switch, to get network access to the TiVo/PS4/360 in my basement rec room. The vendor claims they can do 600Mbps. I haven't done anything to really test that, but I do know that stuff plugged in behind it can completely saturate my 100Mbit cable internet connection. http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-PA4010KIT-Powerline-Adapter-Starter/dp/B00AWRUICG/
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kitten smoothie posted:Yeah, that's the model I've got, too. I hope moca 2.0 hardware eventually gets made available to the public. My lame rear end cable company somehow managed to upgrade my area to 300mbit service, so I can't actually use all of it with moca devices. I may look into those power line options.
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kitten smoothie posted:Yeah, that's the model I've got, too. I've tried powerline in the past and haven't been able to get it to work - been a few years, though. A lot of the problem was finding open plugs near the router to plug in to. If the MoCA stuff works with just the Mini, I'm going to give http://amzn.com/B00CZ6WC3A a try to see if I can't get the lone computer in there working on non-spotty-WiFi, as well.
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