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Sagebrush posted:Is the
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Sheik Yerbouti posted:Any thoughts or stories concerning the BMW R1200R? I'll be selling my F650GS this friday and I've been looking at a nice one from 2007 with 50k kilometers and a lot of extras for a price that would be within my range. The local BMW dealer told my wife she'll want to ride a loaner F800 when her 1150 is in for service, not the 1200, or she'll have trouble going back to the 1150. That said, the wife adores her R1150R. 2002 is the golden year, 2004s seem prone to an elevated rate of stick coil and clutch spline issues. Some 2002s have a minor EFI surge, enough to make the beemer guys cry. Not all of them do it, and it's supposed to be pretty minor. If you daily ride it, the air filter will get crapped up fast, a K&N you can clean off is a good investment. She bought hers with 24k mi in July 2010, now she has 45k. It's been to Sturgis, Yellowstone, down the west coast, and did an Iron Butt Saddlesore 1000 without problems. My opinion on it: the engine is tame to a fault (sounds like a Miata) and the gearbox is a little clunky. Otherwise, nice ride with trick suspension. clutchpuck fucked around with this message at Apr 25, 2012 around 18:54 |
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Sheik Yerbouti posted:Any thoughts or stories concerning the BMW R1200R? I'll be selling my F650GS this friday and I've been looking at a nice one from 2007 with 50k kilometers and a lot of extras for a price that would be within my range. Mine (1150) was really reliable but keep in mind that the clutches tend to last around 65K and then require a very expensive or time consuming replacement. (~1100 at a dealer). BMW parts are a bit pricey, and you want to keep on top of your valve service (6K intervals) otherwise you'll be down on power and the throttle response can get a bit odd. I found the 1150 to be just fine power wise for extended 2 up touring but the engine is tame and sounds like a sewing machine. For me, it was a fun bike to ride, not particularly exciting, scary, etc just a really nice place to be, that always worked and did whatever I asked of it. I found the Roadster quite a bit more comfortable than the Rockster (Rockster has a higher seat, lower bars, and the instrument cluster deflects less wind. Avoid putting a touring screen (at least the BMW one) on it as it mounts to the forks rather than the frame and can put a fairly heavy input on the bars in a crosswind.
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Sagebrush posted:Is the yes. It takes a little getting used to but once you stop caring about that one little detail (or change it) you realize the whole thing is beautiful.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:yes. It takes a little getting used to but once you stop caring about that one little detail (or change it) you realize the whole thing is beautiful. I don't think it's unattractive, just bizarre. Asymmetry can work really well if you make enough of a deal of it...slightly asymmetrical is worse than severely so, generally.
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Endless Mike posted:1150R Rocksters are way cooler than 1200s. where can I buy a Rockster headlight?
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the walkin dude posted:where can I buy a Rockster headlight? Here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/01-02-03-04...40a4bcd&vxp=mtr
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Thoughts on this SV? I generally like the modifications assuming they're well done. I do wonder if the upright bars with the SV650S footpegs will make for a weird position though (the footpegs are different between the S and the naked right?) http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/2980260142.html quote:2005 SV650s - $4350 (marina / cow hollow)
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How many hundred dollar bills should my friend Nolan bring with him when we go look at this? http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/2966282801.html
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Hog Obituary posted:Thoughts on this SV? Price's too high. I bought a pristine 2005 SV650 last year with quadruple the amount of mods as that one, for $3500. It should be like, $2700-3100. the walkin dude fucked around with this message at Apr 27, 2012 around 13:50 |
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the walkin dude posted:Price's too high. I bought a pristine 2005 SV650 last year with quadruple the amount of mods as that one, for $3500. It should be like, $2700-3100. Perfect, thanks. That's what I thought, but I never see SVs on craigslist (even during the winter) going for that cheap.
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Jabs posted:How many hundred dollar bills should my friend Nolan bring with him when we go look at this? About 30ish I'd say.
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Z3n posted:About 30ish I'd say.
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CA, what is your experience with Salvage tittles? I got a salvage dealership near me and could be an alternative if craigslist doesn't deliver or if I become an impatient man-child, speaking of that these are a few models I am currently looking to buy in the next month as my beginner bike. I am looking for a commuter bike for a 20min/13mile commute that I can use on roads and on highways/turnpikes. I also want to eventually do some small time touring an eventually ride from NH all the way down to Baltimore/Washington DC with a poo poo-ton of stuff. 1980's Suzuki GS series (400cc till 650cc) - I heard a lot of good things about these bikes, "bullet-proof, reliable as gently caress" and all that poo poo. Only bad thing I can think about them is that they are old (just like me  ) and I am mechanically retarded (but I still want to learn) and I fear for the poor little bike.1990's-2000's Suzuki GS500 and Kawasaki Ninja EX500 - I know next to nothing about these bikes except that the EX500 only comes in fairing version. I have an absolute irrational hatred for fairings but I have read its rather easy to make them into street fighters, so everything is ok in the world. 2000's Suzuki SV650 - Now this is what I want, but is it what I need? I know they are torquier, fuel injected (after 2003? I don't remember) and overall awesome. I also though about the KLR650 but that thing is to huge for me.
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ElMaligno posted:CA, what is your experience with Salvage tittles? I got a salvage dealership near me and could be an alternative if craigslist doesn't deliver or if I become an impatient man-child, speaking of that these are a few models I am currently looking to buy in the next month as my beginner bike. I am looking for a commuter bike for a 20min/13mile commute that I can use on roads and on highways/turnpikes. I also want to eventually do some small time touring an eventually ride from NH all the way down to Baltimore/Washington DC with a poo poo-ton of stuff. I like salvage tittles. I'm not American, so I can't advise on salvage titles though! Regarding the "shitton of stuff" that you want to chuck on the back of your bike, I'd probably want to get a large displacement engine that has plenty of torque like the SV650. The 12xx Bandit variants are another option. All I know about touring is that my small 250 can only just stay at the speed limit with a Ventura backpack that has 30-40kg of things loaded onto it.
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As someone who bought a salvage (rebuilt even) bike and then sold it later DO NOT BUY A BUY A NON CLEAR TITLE unless you are tracking or know you will keep the bike forever, or are getting it for at least 50% of what it should cost! Selling those things is a huge pain in the rear end. Also 1200+ bandits are cool.
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Nerobro posted:I'm going to put it to you this way. European messengers screamed so loud at suzuki when they put that bike out of production, that suzuki put it BACK INTO production to satisfy the demand. If I had a garage, I would've been all over that without hesitation.
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ElMaligno posted:
I'm not sure about the smaller ones, but the larger Suzuki GS (700cc+) did have and issue with the alternator. I had one ('85 GS700ES), and it did fail. Other than that, they were great bikes, and easy to work on. The other bikes on you list are also good bikes. Personally, I would go for the SV, but it has been a long time since it's the most modern and will probably need the least work. Also, the SV is a great ride, no matter what your skill level/experience level is.
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Well I didn't get the WRX I was looking at. Some guy put a deposit down the day before I was supposed to drive up there and then took out a loan to buy it.  This bad boy just popped up today...the only thing about this is the miles are low enough to show it's been mostly sitting for three years. Honestly though that doesn't seem too bad, my Husky had 1200 on it when I bought it and it's a 2006. http://delaware.craigslist.org/mcy/2987653708.html 
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This 929RR streetfighter popped up for cheap. Those bikes have any weak spots? http://rochester.craigslist.org/mcy/2987915171.html quote:2001 cbr 929rr street fighter look not the best looking bike but runs great fast has a slip on exhaust vortex sprocket the gas tank has dents in it because of previous owner crashing it that's why it has the street fighter look on it right now 19k $1700 bo
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the walkin dude posted:This 929RR streetfighter popped up for cheap. Those bikes have any weak spots? Just the usual honda R/R issues. Great bikes though, dollars to performance that's drat near unbeatable.
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I got 5 bucks on it being salvage title.
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nsaP posted:I got 5 bucks on it being salvage title. I raise to $10.
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"I endo'd and trashed the fairing so I took it off" does not a streetfighter make. 
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ElMaligno posted:1980's Suzuki GS series (400cc till 650cc) - I heard a lot of good things about these bikes, "bullet-proof, reliable as gently caress" and all that poo poo. Only bad thing I can think about them is that they are old (just like me Flint Ironstag posted:I'm not sure about the smaller ones, but the larger Suzuki GS (700cc+) did have and issue with the alternator. I had one ('85 GS700ES), and it did fail. Other than that, they were great bikes, and easy to work on. The other bikes on you list are also good bikes. Personally, I would go for the SV, but it has been a long time since it's the most modern and will probably need the least work. Also, the SV is a great ride, no matter what your skill level/experience level is. GS's have charging system issues. The great thing about that, is it's fixable. And it's THE issue. It was a place Suzuki could cheap out on, so they did. Here's the fix: Check that your stator is in good shape, if so, buy an oversized regulator/rectifier and call it a day. The new gs500 is for all intents and purposes the same as the old GS300/400/425/450. Same gear ratios, same crank, same stroke, same cases. There's some oil cooler changes for the 500F. But that's it. :-) The GS500 and EX500 are completely unrelated. They shouldn't be compared. The EX500 DOES NOT look good without it's fairing. The GS500 started naked, and still looks good stripped. I can't say I'm a huge fan of the SV650, but that's because I love the sound of a 4cylinder. And if not a 4 cylinder, I like 2 valves per cylinder. ... okey ,I need to go to the garage to listen to some old school exhaust notes now. The salvage title thing is something you need to talk to your states DMV about.
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Nerobro posted:I can't say I'm a huge fan of the SV650, but that's because I love the sound of a 4cylinder. And if not a 4 cylinder, I like 2 valves per cylinder. How does a 2v engine sound different from a 3v/4v/5v/whatever? I can see how staged valving would alter the exhaust pulses but what effect does that actually have on the sound?
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Sagebrush posted:How does a 2v engine sound different from a 3v/4v/5v/whatever? I can see how staged valving would alter the exhaust pulses but what effect does that actually have on the sound? 2 valves is where the soul comes from.
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Yeah just google search images of "streetfighter EX500" and "naked SV650" and tell me which one you'd rather thrash on the road while looking good.
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Sagebrush posted:How does a 2v engine sound different from a 3v/4v/5v/whatever? I can see how staged valving would alter the exhaust pulses but what effect does that actually have on the sound? I'm just going to say this. It's different. You can hear it. The "why" is just a lot of guessing. multi valve engines never have staged valve actuation. Okey, now I think of it; 2 valve engines sound more like a growl. 4 valve engines scream. You also don't get the intake howl that comes on a 4 cylinder. At 8000rpm, the 2 valve bike still sounds guttural, the 4 valve has the trumpeting noises. You can hear the difference between a Honda going down the road, and a British car.
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Put flatslides on an sv and they still sound guttural at 10k.
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Nerobro posted:multi valve engines never have staged valve actuation. Really? I don't mean VTEC or whatever, I mean the cam profile. Both of the paired valves open and close at exactly the same time?
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Sagebrush posted:Really? I don't mean VTEC or whatever, I mean the cam profile. Both of the paired valves open and close at exactly the same time? I've never seen it any other way.
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Huh. I'm positive that I've seen valvetrains where the intake valves were staggered, because apparently you can get better swirl that way. One opens, the other opens just slightly later, and they both close at the same time. It would definitely have been a car engine, though.
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Anyone have experience with XR650s? There is one converted to sumo relatively close and it seems like it would make a good daily/tripper in sumo form. It looks like there are issues with the rear subframe bending on them but that seems to be more overloading the rear with luggage or hard off-road riding, which I wouldn't be doing. Also I don't know how it could have only 1200 miles unless it's a new engine. http://hartford.craigslist.org/mcy/2989618603.html 
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XR650L is nothing special, it's basically the same kind of bike as a KLR650 or DR650. 80's dual sport technology. Yawn. Look for a plated XR650R.
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The XR650R is the only road type SM that I've ever ridden that gives the 690 a run for it's money. It's much more dirt oriented (no gauges, etc), but a great, crazy bike.
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A couple XR650Rs are around but not in sumo form and not cheap either. By the time I had the brakes/wheels/suspension set up I'd have what looks like a bonkers bike but for 690SMC money (and ten years old). That and plating stuff in NJ is I think basically plating it in PA or NY and then transferring it here. What a hassle. 
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Moved from the Questions thread: Tell me about the idea of a first-gen ('87 to '07) KLR650 for a new rider. I'm a tall guy and they're one that keeps getting recommended to me for height reasons. Also, a dual is appealing given the lovely local roads: a lot of potholes, washboard, cheap repairs, and lumpy general neglect (Fredericksburg, VA). On a more general note, I've finally got my gear together and my M endorsement (from MSF) applied, so I'm into the serious phase of first-bike shopping. Here's the criteria I want to satisfy: -cheap, under $1500 if possible and preferably under $1000 (ie probably old), in pieces is fine because I really enjoy wrenching -high seat, I don't think I like cruisers and a high seat is the only other good answer to being 6'7" with thick legs and big feet -ABS, how far back on what models is this available? It looks like BMW was into it earlier than the other companies?
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Splizwarf posted:Moved from the Questions thread: In the 0-$1500 range ABS is going to be hard to find. I'd suggest finding an '80s UJM like a Yamaha XJ650. You'll probably still feel cramped on it, but if you're ruling out the full-on cruiser then you're likely to feel cramped on pretty much anything, and you can find one that runs decently for $1000.
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Assuming both look good in person, any recommendations on these two SV650s? The 2000 one has more miles and is more money but has a lot more addons. This is all before negotiations. http://syracuse.craigslist.org/mcy/2986263601.html Vs (13k miles) http://syracuse.craigslist.org/mcy/3001246214.html
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