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Grimarest posted:I'm looking at buying my first bike and there is this pristine Suzuki DR 600 Dakkar for 1600$. 1986 and 86k km on the odometer. If it runs nicely, ride it for a 10k and buy something new once it wears out or you get tired of it. clutchpuck posted:It's pretty much a Hypermotard with a factory bag system. Yeah but it also uses the new water cooled 4 valve 848(849?) engine, which is pretty cool, and the engine the hyper should have gotten int he first place.
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You just described a superduke 1290. If you want it to ride like an 800 just put it in rain mode and when youre ready to ride a grown up motorcycle you dont have to buy a new bike, just put it in sport.
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Ripoff posted:Ducati Hyperstrada - $13,495 USD MSRP Let's be honest - if you can comfortably finance a 14k toy, you can probably also comfortably finance an 17k toy. The difference is a bit more extreme at the 7k mark between the 800ABS and the SD 1290, but let me tell you, those are 2 completely different bikes. A buddy of mine is coming out to visit in August with his G/f on their matching, adorable Tiger 800s, and I'll meet up and cruise around with him then and can give you a back to back if you're really interested, but ultimately, you're sort of comparing a souped up Jeep to a Lambo LM002. I would argue that the SD 1290 is one of the best bikes made at the moment - insane power, awesome suspension, it's been reliable (minus the wheel bearing thing which is apparently normal play, KTM is developing a spec). Biggest issue I've had is because I won't hand the bike over to the dealership long enough for them to replace the stuff damaged in shipping. Most KTM dealerships will offer demo rides, so if you can find one, you should be able to test ride one. The biggest selling point across the board is honestly not that it's totally nuts but that it's insanely controllable. You will go so loving fast without even trying on the thing, or you can commute to work on it, or I've gone on a 6 hour ride with my wife on the back and it was comfortable and fine (although I did make some plates to drop the passenger pegs down and forward a bit and put the KTM powerparts seats on it). Negotation is going to be hard cause the bikes are flying out of showrooms - there have been 12 or so delivered to my dealership in the bay area and all have been sold either before they arrived or within a few days. At the end of the day, you are paying over 10k for a toy. If you're doing that, you shouldn't loving mince about with "well, this one is the practical option" - if you want a practical option, buy a 5k miata and drive around with the top down and don't get wet when it rains. If you want a motorcycle, buy a loving crazy motorcycle, because at the end of the day, you don't ride a bike because it makes sense, you ride it because it's rad. And I ride my SD1290 just about every day and think "whelp, couldn't have gotten anything more awesome than this" and it makes it all worth it. Z3n fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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HotCanadianChick posted:You could almost, almost get away with doing a word replace of 'SD1290' with 'Ulysses' and 'KTM' for 'Buell' and have this be a Clutchpuck post. Yeah except that I didn't describe a lovely bike 
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Safety Dance posted:That rear wheel still hanging in there? Hey that's a minor concern (Apparently some play is normal in SSAs - I'm curious to shove a triumph or ducati one now and see how much play is there).
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Sagebrush posted:Using a careful scientific methodology of "put it on the center stand, grab the rear wheel, and push" I cannot detect any side-to-side play in the single-sided swingarm of my Hawk GT. I have to shove pretty loving hard, on the kickstand, from the low side of the bike. It's more of a felt click than anything else, maybe .25mm-.5mm of play?
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The dealership pulled everything and retorqued to spec, play is still present, so we'll see what happens. I'll throw a dial indicator on there, get a proper hot/cold spec, and we'll see what happens over time. KTM generally takes care of their customers so I'm not too concerned.
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KillHour posted:
It's really simple, you've got your new bike, you're all excited, you bring your foot up to the footpeg and catch it on the shifter and the bike jumps into gear, lurches forward 2 feet, and you drop it. Or you pull up to a gas station, put your foot into some water, a bit of gravel, slip a bit, and because you're not used to balancing a 450 pound bike under you, it goes past the point of no return and you fall over. Or you catch a pavement seam pulling up to a stoplight, it catches the front tire funny, turns the bars a bit more than expected as you come to a stop and you fall over. Or you grab a bit too much front brake coming to a stop, it stops suddenly with the bars to the side and you don't compensate in time and it falls over. Or you roll it off the kickstand accidentally while sitting on it making vroom vroom noises and it falls over. Or you're moving it around and you accidentally let it get a little bit to far leaned over and it falls over. I could go on for awhile longer. Buy something in the 2-4k range, a GS500, Ninja 500, SV650, or whatever, ideally something with a few scratches from a minor tip over, get it completely gone over by a mechanic, and that'll cost you about 500-1000 bucks, and you'll have a bike that's ready to go until you're ready to upgrade it. If you drop it, well, someone else already paid the depreciation on that. Then when you're ready to sell it, you can sell it for roughly what you got it for (as it's a used bike that's been dropped gently before, that pretty much takes the value to bottom), and then you buy your nice bike as your second bike. Buying a bike new as your first bike is a terrible, terrible idea. You lose more in depreciation the first time you turn the key than the cost of a cheap beater. E: fb
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I'd like to think I'm more careful than that. How does that happen, anyways?
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cixelsyd posted:Hi guys, I'd offer 3kish for the 08, you could probably get it for a bit over, which would be reasonable.
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Trauma Tank posted:I've been looking for a good value SV650 for a while with the intent of buying one this winter after doing my training in the next few months(I'm in the UK). This one just popped up near enough to me to be able to go out and have a look. That first one looks quite nice, all things considered, especially given bikes seem to be more expensive over there.
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The 6 pots were a common "upgrade" for those bikes (and the zx6e).
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SV650N? Versys? ER6N? Ninja 650?
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The weestrom is one of the most boring, lame bikes I've ever ridden. It's like the SV is the confluence of a bunch of little things that lead up to something that's better than the sum of it's parts, the weestrom is the same thing but it ends up being worse than the sum of it's parts. It's heavy, underpowered, engine loses all the character that makes an SV fun, suspension is terrible, wheel sizes limit rubber choices. If you respring and stuff on the front, then it's a bit better, but you don't get over a bunch of the other marginal bits about it. Why not take that money and fly back to your SV and take a fun trip rather than blowing a bunch of money on a different bike?
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Elviscat posted:This is exactly what I'd do, except I still use the bike to commute when I fly home (buying an SV ended up being cheaper than renting a car every time I flew home.) And I only get a few weeks a year away from work to visit friends and family, I'd rather spend time with them than ride my motorcycle cross-country, as much as I like the idea. Id take the FZ1 over the sprint...there are some reliability issues with the sprint and no ap1 to bail you out with parts like you would with an aprilia. In fact I'd bet it is easier to get aprilia parts than it is to get sprint parts...apparently those bikes didn't have many spares made. FZ1 is the responsible option, tuono would be the fun one.
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Snowdens Secret posted:The advice on the Sprint's reliability is wrong, they're as bulletproof as and share pretty much all non-cosmetic bits with other modern Triumphs. Go to TriumphRAT.net and read up on any issues the owners have, and the workarounds. A Sprint is much better suited to distance touring, and much more fun, than an FZ6/7. http://cycle-ergo.com/ Look at the ergos between the 2 and you'll see the sprint has significantly more forward lean (28 degrees to the 18 degrees of the FZ6), and generally a tighter rider triangle. All older triumphs have a pile of caveats and bullshit that comes along with them. The 675s are ok starting after 08, but the 1050 engines still had some oddball issues. The fact that you have to go up and read about the workarounds, deal with vin lookups to figure out if you had one of the mid-model year transmission updates, etc. etc. etc. etc. Triumph has really pushed the reliability curve forward with their bikes released in the last generation, but the stuff before that was still distinctly...British. I'd much rather have the lighter, easily upgradable, fire and forget FZ6/FZ7 over an uncommon bike from triumph where if you tip it over, good luck ever finding fairings, aftermarket parts, OEM parts, etc. It might be close to as reliable as the FZ6, but if anything goes wrong, you might need a part that's difficult to find. The FZ6 is also ~100 pounds lighter than the sprint, which is rather portly.
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Marv Hushman posted:Think of it this way: imagine a salesperson at a high end jewelry shop in a mall. They know after 2 days on the job that for every 10 people who wander in, 7 will wander right back out, one will ask for a business card, one will buy a can of jewelry cleaner, 0.5 are just casing the joint, and 0.5 have cash and are ready to go. If only we could all have Marv's introspective awareness.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:You mean you don't have a knob big enough to cope with taming such a savage beast H2R is calling your name.
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headlights but that little roundel on the side just destroys any amount of mad, bad and dangerous to know cred that having aquaman gills on the tail might have given it.
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Before you assume seating position, check out http://cycle-ergo.com. There's a lot of options there. I can't ride a cruiser for more than about 25 minutes before my spine feels like it's going to pop out my rear end in a top hat, thanks to the lack of travel on the rear suspension and seating position that makes using your legs to cushion bumps pretty much impossible.
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You'll need to budget for non-poo poo suspension on the bandit 1250, figure 2500 or so cause used parts arent gonming to be available.
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KARMA! posted:Where do you get that number from? I can get a full non-poo poo suspension non-second hand setup for about 700 of your finest american green backs. I was under the impression the bandit lines had damper rod forks - did they address that on the new ones? I was thinking cartridge kit for the front and a quality, remote preload adjustable shock for ease of 2up adjustment. Figured about 1kish each plus 500 bucks for labor.
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BlackLaser posted:So how bad of an idea is a Ducati 999 for a second bike, a few track days, and occasional trips for a latte? It's a great idea but that bike is pretty overpriced.
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It's pretty high mileage for a duc - I'd want it for around 6. Especially if he doesnt know if the valve collets were replaced.
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M42 posted:No it isn't, at all. The problem is getting the sons a bitches off/on the bike in the first place. A dismal slog through loosening like ninety trillion bolts, 6 hours spent wriggling the rear end in a top hat carb boots sideways, punching yourself in the face when they suddenly let go and your arm flies back, gas permeating every molecule of your being. A few moments of calm while you clean the entire carb in <20 minutes while wishing for sudden death to free you from having to do everything in reverse. Afterwards, reducing your thumbs to pulp from trying, in vain, to move the carb slide over so you can put the cable back on. Finally getting the airbox boots attached, only to have them pop off if you even think about wriggling the assembly forward into the head boots. The world's sharpest screwdriver slipping off the boot clamp screw and filleting your finger open, because clearly two usable hands is an unnecessary luxury for carb work. A song of jets and slides.
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They made a white one, but not with those neon wheels/passenger pegs/bar ends. Google will show you what a stock one looks like, they've only been out for a year or so. Value for bikes is super dependent on a lot of poo poo, but I'd say no more than 10k-ish value for it, simply because you're out of the market for Ducati owners - most aren't going to want a paint scheme like that, it doesn't appear to have any mods of value, and you're taking your friend's time and effort into account. Blue book's going to be higher, list is going to be higher, you might offer him a bit more if you were ok with the bike sitting on a lot somewhere for awhile. You could probably sell it for 13 or so given enough time, but you're going into the bad season for bikes and again - it's a rare ducati owner that's going to want that paint scheme. (all of this is assuming that the bike is otherwise low mileage (under 5k), well taken care of, maintenance records, and not an ex-trackbike or some poo poo) Z3n fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Nov 29, 2014 |
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Nidhg00670000 posted:Hamfisting the throttle on a 125cc: "oops" Hamfisting the throttle on something with TC: WHEEEEEEEEEEEE
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BlackLaser posted:http://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/mcd/4799387956.html Seems reasonable enough for an effectively 2 year old bike with all the new hotness coming out. They're probably at the point where they're losing significant money with each month it's on the floor so they're just trying to get it out before it costs them more money. Also, ABS models on sportbikes are generally pretty unpopular in the US, plus it's a Kawasaki so yeah, I can see that sort of price. Great bikes though, you should totally buy it if you're looking for a 600 for street/light track use.
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SB35 posted:Goons, help point me in the right direction. I'm in the bay area, looking for a new ride. Real answer: FZ6. Comedy option: Duke 690, lightly used.
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Linedance posted:So I'm looking looking at affordable, likeable bikes for sale in the frozen North and it's pretty depressing really. With a budget of roughly 6k CAD, I'm looking at Kawi Versys. They look like my kind of bike, my previous bikes have been a Multistrada 1k and a Aprilia Pegaso Strada. A couple of people have rated them on here too. I know, ride it first, but those of you with experience, how would you say it compares to my previous bikes? Prices seem pretty steady between the '06-'09 and the '10+, any reason not to go for the newer one? Slavvy sums it up well, although I really liked how the versys handled and rode. It's more street oriented than either of those, but it's a really good bike on it's own merits.
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M42 posted:um, excuse me, this guy would like to have a word That's Dan Sewell - AFM fast dude, and generally awesome guy.
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High Protein posted:The 690 duke has the insanely high brake lever thing too, you need to turn the footpeg bracket upside down or something to correct it :S Weird, I haven't had that problem on the newer 690s I've ridden - maybe it was just adjusted super high? Adjustment from the factory is always a bit hit or miss.
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VERTiG0 posted:Would you guys ever buy a dealer demo bike? Depends on how many miles and how much the discount is. Given how I demo bikes, no.
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Whatever you do, don't buy new. Find a nice 3-5 year old bike with lowish miles.
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Chichevache posted:Oof. I want to sell the DRZ and do a fly and ride... Way too expensive - you can find them for around 2.5k if you wait.
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Marxalot posted:Doesn't it weigh something silly like 250lbs? Yeah, it's super light. Cylinders are part of the bottom end. I have a buddy who had about 6k on one. An SXV chassis with a ninja 650 engine swapped in is about the ideal supermoto, imo.
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M42 posted:How hard would that be to do, out of curiosity? I don't know much about engine swaps. It'd take welding in new engine mounts to the frame, custom wiring, figuring out how to handle the fuel pump, custom exhaust, and all the assorted tuning to go along with it. Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:That is a pretty horrible engine choice though. SV650, NT650? Come on, something else. You ever seen an SXV frame? No way anything but a custom built tiny v-twin or a p-twin is going to fit. It's tiny.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:Why not just put a 690 engine in a SXV frame then? Cylinder head won't fit between the frame spars. If you search YouTube for SXV er6i engine swap you can see how narrow the frame is and how the Ninja engine basically sits below the frame. You might be able to make thw 690 engine fit, but you'd only lose a few pounds of weight and you'd lose significant freeway usability. Plus you have to drop the engine to do maintenance with a swap like that, so the 15k valve checks on the 650 engine are nice.
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clutchpuck posted:Should I buy this? Of course - if we can concentrate all the Buells together in one garage it's less property damage when we burn the garage down. You're doing gods work. (Real talk: Owning multiples of the same bike is the right way to handle the sickness)
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