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infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Dumb but interesting question: What bike would you guys buy used or new between $5000 - $6000?

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infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Weinertron posted:

Thank you so much. I REALLY would prefer a Ninja 250 or 500, but they seem overpriced, don't last at all on Craigslist, and the market seems flooded with 08+ ones when I want an earlier generation. I haven't sat on on SV650S, is the riding position that different than the normal SV650?

I'll be able to tell with a test ride whether the ergos will work for me, and I'll be careful with the loud handgrip. I already have head to toe gear, all of it leather except for some mesh overpants. They do have knee armor though. I figured that if the play budget runs out, it would be better to have less of a bike and more gear.

Alternatively, is it worth looking at other cities just to find a Ninja 250? I expected them to be common, but all of the ones in Austin are either completely thrashed with no turn signals and fairings, astoundingly overpriced (asking $4000 for an '07) or sell in 2 hours before I can get there.

Edit: Ads around here are depressing as hell. This guy has some sort of Kawasaki, he bought it thinking it was a 600 but it only has 5 gears and he thinks its a Ninja 250... what the gently caress.

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/mcy/1713206166.html

Well you're taking or have already taken the MSF, and you don't sound too cocky, as
long as you have good judgement I think an SV650 is a fine starter bike. I've found that riding a more powerful bike, you'll just need to learn how to use the friction zone in the clutch pretty well and don't goose the throttle. And also the SV650 has plenty of grunt all over the rev range so you never have to rev the nuts off it to move.

the SV650s has lower clipon handlebars and maybe higher pegs afaik, I think you'd be fine on it, and I think it looks better anyways :P

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

I know everyone says the 250's power is enough, but if you're on the freeway a lot, having some power ready on tap is nice. I started on a GS500, never intimidating at all, really easy to ride, great mileage, I get about 50-55 on it, I used to get closer to 60 but i've been pretty used to the power delivery and am slightly more aggresive with the throttle than before. I test rode a ninja 500 too, also a great bike, the one I rode felt kinda weird though because the kick stand was in the way of the shifter and it made shifting up kinda weird without hitting the kickstand.

Then I picked up a 93 Honda CBR600. Ok definitely more powerful, it almost doesn't need any throttle to get it going in first gear, but if you don't rev the nuts off it it's pretty tame and easy to ride at sub 6k rpm.

Also i'm not sure on your price range, but the ninja 650r can be had around 3000-4000$, very neutral riding position, power comparable to the SV650.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Weinertron posted:

Alright, I'm going to check out this SV650 this evening. I'm new, but I've looked over a few Ninja 250s already and think I have a pretty good idea of how to check tires, chain & sprockets, and other general wear items.

http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/1721093510.html

I'm quite excited for it, but there is one problem: He lives about 15 miles away and none of my friends can drive stick (my car), and the ones that own cars aren't available tonight to give me a ride. (Yes, I am in college).

Does it seem fair to offer him $20 or $30 for an hour of his time to go ahead and follow me back to where I live on the bike, and then I take him back home? This would be assuming that everything about the bike looks great. The process I would be thinking would be that I pay him, he signs the title over to me, and then he follows me back. Is this sane?

Edit: I'm sorry for asking so many stupid questions, guys. Other than my MSF instructor, I don't know any responsible riders around here. I've talked to a couple of squids that give terrible advice, and I'd really prefer to ask the internet.

Any questions about bikes aren't stupid! When I bought my first bike, I only had a permit at the time, but the bike was about 30 miles away, I just asked the dude if he'd ride it over and i'd happily give him a ride back, turned out he needed to head my way anyways so his wife or girlfriend tailed him to my place the next day with the bike and title and we did the transaction then. It seems perfectly reasonable to ride a bike over, gives the previous owner a last ride before it's yours, I wouldn't mind doing it myself if I were selling one.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Z3n posted:

The only thing about those bikes is that they need the valves adjusted pretty regularly (every 4k) or they'll burn valves. If it hasn't been done, I'd adjust the price accordingly.

Amazingly, they'll still run fairly decent with burned valves, they'll just idle a little funny.

I've out like 3.5k miles on mine since i've owned it, I should probably have mine checked? It has been idling funny |:^|a, i'm kind of scared to do it myself, wonder how much it'd run to have it done for me.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Typik posted:

I'll have to sit on both models and see which one really feels comfortable to me then. I plan on riding alot so I do want some comfort. Also yeah. I checked out that buying guide you posted quite a while back. Seems useful, are there any other suggestions you'd give when checking out the bike? Other things not listed in the guide to look for?


Also, the ad says there are a "Few cracks in the tail section"
Something I should be worried about, you think?

Holy crap that is a great deal on a 2nd gen SV650, then again i'm in CA and it's rare to see one of those for less than 3500. The tail thing is likely cosmetic and if you can live with it, it's no big deal.

Unless you're a big idiot with no self control an SV650 should be a fine beginner bike. Also it's a fuel injected model, so starting cold or warm should be a snap.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/1727464755.html

Somebody stop me! This is the "6th" gen? I know the one before this had the gear driven cams while this one has the VTECHS, I don't know which one i'd prefer

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Rontalvos posted:

I am so tempted to buy this purely because it may be the prettiest thing I've ever seen.

http://fresno.craigslist.org/mcy/1732813348.html

All I know is that I love mine, it's plenty powerful, if you deal with the regulator/rectifier and the cam chain tensioner the bikes run great. That one looks pretty pristine considering its age.

I got complimented on my 17 year old 93 by some guy riding an 04 ZX6, p.cool!

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

timb posted:



See, I had the opposite experience. My bike was stored for a year with no fuel stabilizer and the carbs were corroded to hell and back. Then again, the bike was stored (covered) outside in a very humid environment.

My co-worker just bought himself a 92 Honda Shadow for 100$, it had been sitting around for 2-3 years unridden and non-running, I believe he just rewired the ignition, and put in a battery and it fired right up with the old gas in there and all. I asked if he needed to clean the carbs or drain the tank but he just said "nope, runs beautifully" He just got it registered and is riding it to work now.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/f...ad.php?t=337335

Would this be a dumb idea? I've always kind of wanted one after I missed out on a nice deal on one months ago. Although I rode by one and it was ridden by a rather small woman.... the ergonomics looked funny and the bike was rather large, but I still kind of WANT it. Looks like I can get the side fairings and front fairing for about 125$ a piece on ebay. Seems decent condition otherwise with new tires and chain/sprocket an 15k total miles.

Argh I don't want to have to explain the the folks why I got another (3rd) bike. It'd be kind of a nice running mini-project though.

infraboy fucked around with this message at Jun 17, 2010 around 17:44

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Marv Hushman posted:

Depends on the Shadow. VLX 600 = pass @ that price, ACE 750/1100 = slightly below market and well worth investigating, Spirit = eh, in the wheelhouse, but negotiate anyway. Obviously, condition and extries affect the numbers and your taste/requirements come first. All good stuff, but if you can handle the VLX, you can handle the 750, and you'll likely get more use out of it.

Doh, there was also the Aero and Sabre variants--you get the point. All with different styling cues, dimensions, and powerplants.

I believe pre-2004 Shadows in the 600-750CC range were chain drive, the 2004 + Aero models had shaft drives, which might be kind of nice. i've seen a few for around 3500 or so. Spirits were always chain driven, at some point all shadows, maybe 2006 or 2007 and up were all shafties. Theres the Saber variants which I believe were 1100CC and always shaft driven, not made anymore, probably replace by the VTX series.

If you're interested in cruisers... i've seen a few Suzi Intruders for very reasonable prices, also Kawasaki Vulcans are a few to consider, the Vulcan 500 can be found for pretty cheap if you're looking into a beginner.

edit: Also can anyone give me a perfectly reasonable and logical way I can justify purchasing a 3rd bike for myself? I have like over 8000$ and I kind of want something else but I can't think of what i'd add to my collection.

infraboy fucked around with this message at Jun 23, 2010 around 08:14

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Unzip and Attack posted:

What are the major differences between a Honda Shadow ACE and a Spirit?

I believe just different styling cues, the aero has big swoopier fenders, while the ACE (American Classic Edition) had smaller fenders and an overall leaner look, even though dimensionally they were about the same. Only think about the spirits is that I think after they discontinued the ACE the spirit took over, looks pretty similiar to me.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Ghost of Razgriz posted:

A coworker of mine is looking to get back in to riding after a couple years hiatus. He saw a Shadow on our company's for sale page and asked my opinion.


The pictures that were posted were nothing special, but no visible damage. He's asking too much, probably wanting to recoup some of the cost of the mods. I figure my coworker should start offering at 2700 and settle for no more than 3k. I have no idea what that "uses no oil" thing is about, though.

Yea/nay?

I'd say nay, price is pretty high considering the miles and it's a pre-2004 aero (in 2004 the aero's got shaft drives), i'd offer around 2800.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

I guess whats nice about buying a used bike from any reputable dealer is that they usually check the wear items and make sure the bike is good to go before selling it, as opposed to some private seller selling you a bike for what seems like a really low price until you find out the registration is backed up a year, and the bike needs new tires/oil change/chain&sprockets, brakes, etc.

Then again if you know what to look for and know how to do a few little maintenance things yourself it's no biggie.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

aventari posted:

haha just test rode the black 07 and drat you are correct. I love it. so much power it's insane. Makes my F4i feel like a squishy Ninja 250 now :-/

Well that first Repsol you listed was about 7200$, I think i've seen a few 08 models around the bay area with less than 4000 miles running for as low aw 7800$, and as Z3n said it's a pretty amazing motorcycle, compared to the previous gen.

I haven't ridden a literbike and the rather absurd cost of insuring one keeps me from getting one, even though it seems like people are selling their literbikes for the same price as a 600CC supersport around here, it almost makes me think "Well why don't I just get a 1000CC instead?"

Also I agree with Z3n I don't get why Hondas seem to have higher resale value, i've already replaced 2 regulator/rectifiers !

Also I kind of want a 954RR, that headlight just looks awesome

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123



Do they really get sub 30mpg when you're tracking it? How about for everyday street riding?

I think i'm going to settle for a nice new TV over a another bike this year

^^ I think the F2 is nice enough for everyday street use, I think it's when Honda started making the RR series that things got a little less comfy.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

tastyburrito posted:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/mcy/1851352007.html

Just took the MSF last weekend, and have been looking at a few local ex250/500s to start out on. Checked out a few 5-10 year old ex250s with around 10,000 miles, all for ~$2000. I definitely still need to do some more research, but this bike (95 ex250 with 25000 miles) just popped up and its $1500 asking price is definitely more in my price range. Should I jump on this, or consider a slightly more expensive newer bike that would likely need less work?

Where abouts in the bay area are you?

I'd say thats a pretty good deal on a Ninja 500, it's in my home town PM me or something maybe I can take a look at it with you. Also the ninja 500 from 94-2009 are all pretty much the same. I've seen some on CL with 65,000 miles on them so the engines are certainly sturdy.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

I sat on a few bikes today at a Ducati/Triumph dealer.

Daytona 675: Ok REALLY high loving pegs, otherwise not bad, pretty nice bike. Doesn't seem that pretty in person compared to the pictures you always see, at least in the black color.

Ducati 848: Actually not bad, high pegs again, and hilariously thin seat.

2006 F4i: Oh my god this bike fits me perfectly. Definitely one of my top choices for next bike.

I really like sportbikes a lot, it's just the god drat pegs are always so drat high, it always feels like i'm squatting on one, I really need to test ride one to feel how it would be to live with every day. I'm about 5'11'' but I think I have longer legs than average, 34 inseam.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Flint Ironstag posted:

I'm 6'2", have the same inseam you do, and have owned and raced various sportbikes exclusively with the exception of my first couple of bikes.

A good aftermarket seat will help immensely, and gives you room to move around on long highway trips. The OE seat on my FZR1000 could have been used to extract information from spies, but the Corbin I bought made touring a blast. CA to FL for Bike Week? Let's go!

Also, you will need some time to get used to the riding position. That will come with time and mileage.

I need to actually ride one, I feel kinda like a jerk going into the dealers just trying to sit on one, obviously they wont let me take it on a short run I wish they would.

Moneys been pretty good lately, I may just end up biting the bullet and add another bike to the stable around winter time... I'm kind of torn between the 05-06 ZX6R, 08-09 GSR600/750s, and the 07+ CBR 600. For the most part, naked bikes just don't do it for me, I rather like having fairings/windshield for my commute.

I love the seating on my CBR F2, the only thing that makes it uncomfortable is me wearing a backpack stuffed with my workshoes/uniform.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Somehow a 2007 GSX-r 600 costs nearly as much to insure as a 2004-2005 CBR 1000. > screw you demographics. 2005-2006 ninja 636 looks to be the most promising.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Thats a pretty nice deal on an Fz6r, they're pretty new around here still so prices tend to be high, you could also go the half faired FZ6 model, I sat on one, pretty much perfect for me being 5'11 185lbs, definitely something nice for all day cruising around.

If you go SV650 i'd go for the S model, some people put on the factory full fairings on them as well, a little harder to find that way, but they're proven bikes. http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/f...ad.php?t=344942

Ninja 650 is also excellent, you'll probably find some pre 09 ones for a bit cheaper than the one you listed, if you care about the styling, I think both look pretty nice in their own way though.

Heck if you find a CBR F4i for a decent price, the seating position is similar to your 08 ninja and good all rounders, not as crazy as the 2003+ RR series.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

QnoisX posted:


I haven't seen a SV650 around with full fairings. That does look like a pretty nice bike also. CA is pretty far though. Maybe I could find a more local one.



Yeah I was just listing one I knew off the top of my head. I'd sit on an F4i, it's a really nice bike, it has a nicer more usable powerband than the RR series and much higher bars. Solid engines too, this guy apparently rode it to 170000+ miles before he had an accident on it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwiOyq2Q9-I


Also I say this again: Screw you Non-Californians and your cheap rear end used bikes! 3000$ for a 2008 Fz6!? you might be able to get a 2004 model in California for that price with close to 20k miles

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Excellent choice, you were choosing between a lot of great bikes, couldn't really go wrong with any of them, cheapest FZ6r i've seen around here was maybe 4800$, so you got a pretty good deal.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

blugu64 posted:

Since the Ninja grenaded itself

Wait what happened to your Ninja?

Whats your budget for another bike like?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/mcy/1949054263.html

infraboy fucked around with this message at Sep 12, 2010 around 00:42

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

blugu64 posted:

Near as we can tell, some copper bit decided to explode. It was seriously like panning for gold in that oil. My budget isn't much, and as I'm really don't know much about dirt bikes I'm not sure if I could find something worth riding for $1500-$2000. I finally got a 'real job' a month ago, after a bout with unemployment/underemployment, so the less I spend the faster I get the finances back where I like them.

Regarding high maintenance dirt bikes, my main fear is that I'd be doing the top end every thousand miles, and that sounds expensive.

Well theres plenty of decent street bikes that can be had for under 2000$, dualsport wise you'd end up with one of the 250 models which are barely enough on the freeway, or the dreaded KLR650 you don't want.

I'm also trying to hold out on buying another bike at least until Christmas time.... assuming i've been a good boy, as of November i'll have one year of riding under my belt, so I feel fairly confident on a newer sportbike.

I'm pretty stuck between an 05-06 Ninja 636 or an 07+ CBR600. 2006+ R6 are sexy but everything i've read about them makes them sound kind of unfriendly for the street, and I think GSX-Rs are generally pretty ugly unless I go for an 08-09 which are a little more than i'd want to spend, although a GSX-R 750 wouldn't be out of the question.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/1946796971.html

Of course theres awesome deals when I don't want to commit yet

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/1960122613.html

How are these generations of GSX-R 750? Seems like a pretty good deal, I know someone who can do fork seals for cheap if it's a big deal, I asked and the bike has a clean title with current reg.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

GSX-R definitely, The R6S is kind of meh to me. How the hell did you find an 07 for 4000$ I hate the bay area.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/1980054851.html

"have a 636 with 2700miles, original owner I'm 51 so its adult owned, I bought it at goldengate cycles in san francisco, I have all the documents I had all the go fast parts installed at Desmoto, two brothers duel high pipes, chipped and mapped, rear sets to much to mention but it has it all, I got hurt on my 750 at the track and since then have not been riding selling off my bikes for now I need the cash in stead of play time, its a good clean bike come down have a look runs like a top. thanks"

gently caress I want it but don't need it

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Cabledude posted:

Thanks for the Input guys I really appreciate it.


I have not ridden anything larger than my 250r, not sure I want to make a jump to a 750.

The funny thing about the situation is that I have a truck to sell and if I get a newer bike for this kind of price from selling my current Ninja I would actually come out with more money that the price of this.

I'll email the guy and update you guys if I get it this weekend!

Some would say the GSX-R 750 is a more ideal street machine, the usable power of a 1000 but the lower weight of a 600. They can seriously haul rear end, newer ones are about as good as previous literbikes power-wise. I'm sort of pining for one too but they're tough to find deals for around here.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/1982487362.html

I heard these guys are pretty cool, I asked for an OTD price and it'd be about 4600, i'm SO loving tempted

Well you only live once right?

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Cabledude posted:

I've got a lead on some bikes -again-.

05 636 with 11k
http://fresno.craigslist.org/mcy/1992723773.html

07 GSXR 600 12k
http://modesto.craigslist.org/mcy/1981142140.html

07 GSXR 600 unknown miles
http://fresno.craigslist.org/mcy/1982045202.html
Got some pics of the last one, the stator cover is scratched and there's a scratch on the rear fairing aswell.

Hopefully they are still for sale this weekend when I can make a trip

I feel so silly for scouting craigslist all the time now but damnit I can't help it

The first gsxr is pretty nice at a good price, if you like it painted that color.

I'm literally going to be buying an 06 636 tommorow, I can't loving wait, i'm paying about 4642$ out the door, which basically includes all the DMV (lovely) taxes and the transfer fee etc etc. If guy would take like 4200-4300 i'd say thats fair.

It's the same one I linked before, 11798 miles, plasma blue. I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/2015493354.html

this looks like a sweet deal on an older VFR.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Ethox posted:

So I'm saving up for a bike! I've always wanted one, and now my finances are about to permit it. I have about 2000 miles experience on a 125cc scooter. I'm also hoping to make a cross country trip this summer.

Everything I've read points me to a Ninja 500 or and SV650. While I can afford both those bikes I'm not sure what I should do. With a long trip the less I spend on the bike the better, but I dont want to cheap out and have a P.O.S. break down on me half way across America.

I have a budget of 2,000 dollars, and I guess my question is would the ninja or sv650 be the best choice, or maybe a cheap older UJM?


If you're in california, this is excellent.
http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/f...ad.php?t=348503

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Pre-2008 KLRs can also be had with for really cheap, usually with a bunch of nice addons included.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Tsaven Nava posted:

Consisting largely of milk jugs and whatever else the riders have been able to scavenge from dumpsters

Hey milk crates make excellent tail/saddle bags ok.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

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Korwen posted:

what's the general thoughts on 94-01 Honda VFRs around here? The older ones are in my price range for used bikes, and the 98-01 fall just above my price range so still possible with some additional saving. I like their reputation as reliable sport-touring bikes, but I was wondering what the thoughts on owning them were here.

http://sanmarcos.craigslist.org/mcy/2045263981.html

http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/2003759773.html

those were two that caught my eye.


The engines are pretty bulletproof, the 98+ ones have fuel injection which is nice. I'd go for that 2001 model, I wouldn't worry about the mileage too much as long as it's been maintained well enough.

Definitely check to see if the Regulator/Rectifier has been replaced and check the charging system while the bike is running. Hondas just have weak R/Rs from the 90s- early 2000s on most of their bikes.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Man I really kind of want one of these CB700SC bikes.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/2047301488.html

If it's in running condition it'd be kind of fun to have, I kind of want to have something I can take apart and practice doing work on, like cleaning carbs, if worse comes to worse and I destroy it i'm only out about 750$ :v.

Also I kind of want to learn how to work on motos as a kind of career eventually, i'm planning on taking a few courses on moto mechanics at the local college.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/09/...09-r6-and-fz6r/

the lil fz6r has pink bits.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

If i'm not mistaken thats a KLX400 and not a DRZ400, different animals. I can't tell from those pictures but the KLX doesn't look street legal? I don't see any/many lights on it or a headlight.

If you want something more street oriented instead, theres always the SV650, it'd be a nice bump up from the Ninja 250 you had.

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infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Shows how much I know about bikes!

Yeah thats a good deal on a drz :3

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