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Nate RFB posted:Am I the only one who has had no desire to ever revisit the Evangelion story again after End of Eva? I could care less about the manga or these movies (though I say this admitting that I haven't seen the first one yet). To me, Evangelion will always be that 1995 TV series + movies, and nothing else.
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Captain Invictus posted:Way to respond to a post from a year and a half ago. I'm sure you knew that though, and you're just being cute.
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| # ¿ Jun 30, 2010 03:42 |
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aniero posted:Are you saying Eva isn't art or that anime can't be art? No, he/she's saying that it isn't "hard to say." Doc Hawkins posted:She could have said "After this, I'll buy you a beer" or "I'm glad I met you" or something that had been previously hinted she came to understand her father wanted to say to her when he saved her life. Doc Hawkins posted:Has any single person had more of an effect on anime than General Douglas MacArthur?? Arrowsmith fucked around with this message at Jan 30, 2011 around 00:54 |
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Milky Moor posted:I suppose you could argue that it's all the people in the sea of LCL congratulating him for choosing reality, but that doesn't make any sense unless they all leave as well since it's apparently a good thing (otherwise, why the congratulations?) Alternative view is that they just wanted to kick Shinji and his horrible world-ending subconscious out of the gestalt of mankind. I'm leaning towards the-probably unpopular-"it was all a Maybe in some meta-sense that's what we are watching when consume Neon Genesis Evangelion, but I like to believe that Anno is consciously aware of this and intentionally channeling himself through Shinji vis-a-vis the TV-series plot and how episodes 25 and 26 play out. Of course viewer outcry and the subsequent End of Evangelion take things in another direction, but I personally see no reason to attempt to glean any semblance of continuity between the end of the TV-series and EoE, and I say that as someone with an immense respect and affection for the NGE franchise/universe. I think it's fun, and edifying, and all those good things; but that's all it is, at least in my mind.
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| # ¿ Feb 8, 2011 01:17 |
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Zahki posted:It's just unfortunate the 24 provides absolutely no lead in to it whatsoever. It still boggles my mind that Anno thought he could get away with that.
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| # ¿ Feb 8, 2011 02:02 |
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Bewildrbeast posted:People help Shinji in the shittiest ways though; why not give the kid a high-five and a pep talk!? When you're a figment of Hideaki Anno's imagination I'd say that's par for the course.
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| # ¿ Feb 8, 2011 08:24 |
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DamnGlitch posted:It was mentioned but yes, I meant in the fetal position, you rear end.
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| # ¿ Feb 25, 2011 05:24 |
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Tom Ripley posted:. I'm gonna go ahead and assume that this isn't directed at me, as the only real way the post you quoted could be interpreted is an honest suggestion that you should be given the benefit of the doubt. I don't know how it could be taken any other way, but you are free to make of it what you will.
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| # ¿ Mar 2, 2011 22:30 |
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Midjack posted:Radiation poisoning then! Adam's awakening altered the brainwaves of every living thing on earth at the time but anything that came afterward is A-OK. Does fantasy as a genre have a corresponding hard/soft dichotomy as does science fiction? Would we classify such as the difference between, say, fantasy and mythology, or mythology and religion?
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| # ¿ Mar 11, 2011 06:58 |
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Is there something resembling a consensus on the whole "time-loop" theory? I guess it would be something like Shinji (and Asuka, depending) are the new (Biblical) "Adam and Eve" and all human history is repeated. Assuming that the Eva on the moon is the prior Unit 01 then we can assume that SEELE and perhaps Gendo are aware of all this? And does this then also imply, assuming again that there aren't more than one Eva on the moon, that this could only be the second cycle at most?
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| # ¿ Apr 14, 2011 03:57 |
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DamnGlitch posted:'They' as a gender neutral term is technically not good grammar, it's supposed to be 'he or she'. This is of course ridiculous, and 'they' should be adopted as the proper gender neutral term. English being the descriptively-ruled language that it is, this will eventually happen on it's own in time. The best we can do in the meantime is keep pushing the issue and telling our word-processor spell-checkers to learn and accept that yes, "themself" IS a word dammit!
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| # ¿ Jun 3, 2011 03:00 |
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DamnGlitch posted:Yeah. It was more or less the equivalent of digging through a really big box and hopeing that for some reason what you wanted would be in there. Don't forget Usenet! Grammar-school and pre-teen me could never con my mother into letting me get a binary newsgroup subscription, so I would just read the lists of files and dream about being a cool, connected neighborhood bootleg distributor. 
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| # ¿ Sep 2, 2011 01:04 |
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Captain Invictus posted:Every time another goon showed up to the meet, we would laugh at them. There would be more of us pooled outside, snickering at the ones who went in, too awkward to go in ourselves.
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| # ¿ Sep 20, 2011 06:03 |
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aniero posted:Snicker all you want, I'll be the first one in and the first one with chlamydia If you get chlamydia you probably weren't the first one in.
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| # ¿ Sep 22, 2011 11:18 |
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Grashlok posted:At least you got to enjoy Komm Susser Tod. I, too, love this song to nearly pathological levels. Come sweet death indeed.
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| # ¿ Oct 20, 2011 05:25 |
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DamnGlitch posted:I wouldn't say it's uplifting. It's an orgasmic death chant, I mean, literally that's what's happening. Knowing the context, even with the quote unquote cheery music, it's still wonderfully macabre.  v
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| # ¿ Oct 21, 2011 09:22 |
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kaworu posted:I just can't do it. I'm not even sure why. I feel like everything has to be just perfect, and I haven't been in the right frame of mind. But then, if I look at it that way, I'll just never end up watching them at all, probably. Maybe that'll wind up being the case Hey man, don't set yourself up for a letdown. Rebuild 1 & 2 aren't that great*, just watch them. At this point, the only reason I'd recommend waiting is the fact that stopping at 2.22 will make the anticipation for 3/Q all the more maddening. So either wait for the whole series to get wrapped up (~3rd Impact) or just watch the drat movies! If you smoke weed, get high first, it'll be even more awesome. * Actually, yeah, they are that great, but don't hype these films, or anything in life, up so much if it's keeping you from actually enjoying something worth your while.
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| # ¿ Oct 27, 2011 08:43 |
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Nate RFB posted:He actually gets a lot "worse", but I think that's what makes him interesting since Evangelion at its heart is more of a character study than a giant robot show. This is why Neon Genesis Evangelion is a world apart and so exceptional in its medium and contemporaneous art: It's not entertainment, created by someone who means to entertain. It's therapy for its fans and a cry for help and human connection from its creator. It is at its heart art for art's sake. It is catharsis. FiftySeven posted:Which part of these characters do you identify with exactly? Is it the fighting in giant robots bit? If it helps, I can also totally relate to that. The idea that one deeply needs their existence to mean something. To find a reason and purpose for why they are alive, right now, in no other time and place. To be an integral, essential part of all human and universal existence. And realizing that in its wildest dreams and aspirations, the human condition is so hosed up that it cannot be happy within its own borderless fantasy. For those who don't feel like they matter, or have any place in the universe at all, to be able to become the most important thing in their own world and all of existence and still not be able to be happy to be alive. Arrowsmith fucked around with this message at Dec 13, 2011 around 08:40 |
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Ak Gara posted:I think as everyone was part of the same LCL sea, everyone would know everyone elses thoughts. But would they believe it? How would they integrate all that knowledge after being decanted back into the vesseled individual? Perhaps something like a collective unconscious?
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| # ¿ Dec 16, 2011 06:57 |
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Paracelsus posted:Would it even be accurate to say that they would know "each other's" thoughts? Without AT fields, in what sense does "other" have meaning? You couldn't tell where you ended and someone else began. There would have to be some process by which individualization occurs, or else no one would be able to be reanimated. Not to say that the soul is a discrete entity, but the re-beginning of the world necessarily implies a beginning. My take is that pre-life essence began as a single all-encompassing Godhead, and that the diaspora of essence is a fragmentation of that wholeness. Every "soul" is actually a dilution of the First One, and "otherness" is an illusion endemic to the vessel in which that soul resides.
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| # ¿ Dec 16, 2011 08:58 |
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Tae posted:She's a lot skinnier than the old artworks in that picture, huh. At least she doesn't have some deformed HOTD bust. As far as that Asuka pic, I know several women with the same profile IRL (it's not attractive at that extent, believe me), though her usual depiction of being 2/3-legs borders on grotesque. I for one, as much as I like the series, would appreciate them taking it a little more seriously regarding its art direction. Arrowsmith fucked around with this message at Dec 30, 2011 around 11:07 |
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I was somewhat intrigued by Del Toro's upcoming Pacific Rim, until I read that the screenplay is being written by Travis Beacham, who you might have mercifully forgotten was responsible for Clash of the Titans. "Unleash the Angel," anyone? Tae posted:What do you mean by 2/3 leg? If she was five-feet tall then forty inches are leg. Arrowsmith fucked around with this message at Dec 31, 2011 around 08:08 |
| # ¿ Dec 31, 2011 08:02 |
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Oh Snapalope posted:http://www.evangelion.co.jp/ It confirms that a bridge in Ube is missing its troll.
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| # ¿ Dec 31, 2011 18:44 |
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Scionix posted:(I like them a lot, but I'm not sure if I like the fact Shinji is more likable. I always thought the point of the whole series was to be loving depressing and make you hate all the main characters, especially Shinji. The (comparatively) more sensible plot/characters are nice though.) Well, Shinji is Anno, so you aren't really supposed to hate him, but you are certainly expected to.
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| # ¿ Jan 4, 2012 21:05 |
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Abalieno posted:So you deny the presence in the show of symbols, terms and concepts that belong to Kabbalah? How do you know it wasn't Kabbalah using Anno?
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BrandorKP posted:That word Evangelion in the name of the series. It's from euangélion, which means good news, glad tidings, and importantly gospel or the saving acts of God. So you all want to tell me that a story that contains a crucifixion as the culmination and resolution of a storyline that focuses on brokenness and separation, (i.e. sin), that references the gospel (a story that presents the crucifixion as the resolution of and salvation from sin) in it's very name has nothing to do with Christianity? The alternative is that the Godhead is immanent in Anno and he is merely a vessel for latter-day revelation (all unbeknownst to the poor man).
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| # ¿ Mar 13, 2012 02:46 |
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I thought Asuka's "revelation" in EoE played more like a psychotic break, but I guess her suddenly renewed abilities to kick rear end are evidence otherwise, unless her loss of synch skill was strictly a psychological problem and there is some kind of placebo effect in play.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Asuka's performance ratings over the course of the series make it a little more dubious, though. I guess it depends on exactly how you define emotional stability. Maybe "self-image" would be a closer approximation, and would still explain Rei. Unless I'm misinterpreting "inversely" implies the opposite wouldn't it? If not then Owen Wilson Asuka would be the greatest pilot of all time. Paracelsus posted:I always presumed that when she was suspended in the Brain-Stem LCL Tube of Fanservice she was backing up her memories for subsequent copies. Does this mean that the LCL submersion is responsible for the physiological aspect of the mental connection which makes piloting possible? It makes sense when you think about the absence of AT fields cause everyone to collapse into sauce. Perhaps when Gendo orders the LCL pressure increase to KO Shinji it's more of a depersonalization effect that blacks him out than a bog-standard passing out.
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DamnGlitch posted:The manga apparently has a more definitive name but ultimately it's not super important. It's bold, lets you breathe, blah blah. -- Is Rei really "rear end" though? She seems fairly effective, just not "the invincible" Shinji. Arrowsmith fucked around with this message at Apr 8, 2012 around 10:51 |
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MadRhetoric posted:she survives the impossible because she has backups. "Fairies in bottles" indeed.
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| # ¿ Apr 9, 2012 05:57 |
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So what's up with the (I believe previously mentioned in the thread) green-lighted Eva rip-off Pacific Rim? Edit: Written by that "Titan" of screenwriting Travis Beacham, of Clash of the Titans fame. Arrowsmith fucked around with this message at Apr 15, 2012 around 23:27 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:The public was told that both events were meteors striking the earth. They're aware that both happened, but not what they actually were. I think they all just assume that their was a First Impact. She got here somehow. Is there any implication that First Impact is what created the moon?
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| # ¿ Apr 29, 2012 11:34 |
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I don't mean to be an rear end in a top hat but this thread has gotten me interested in watching some of the mentioned shows and I'd appreciate some spoiler tags on the E7 and Ideon plot discussion. Thanks.
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| # ¿ May 28, 2012 13:50 |
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Shinji is Anno's self-insertion. While the viewer isn't intended to hate him, they are certainly expected to.
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| # ¿ Sep 4, 2012 18:32 |
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Sgt Froggy posted:Deviant art would ban this for, "sexualizing images of a minor" This is a pretty wacky derail, but no, it's not an image of a minor.
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| # ¿ Nov 10, 2012 00:01 |
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Get the manga online.
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| # ¿ Nov 10, 2012 10:09 |
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Rekka posted:Oh gently caress, everyone is a clone of their mother / father and just like Rei they don't realise they're being cloned. Thats why they stay young! ( I realise this is 'impossible' (as impossible as anything in Eva really is)) I love clones! I keep getting older, they stay the same!
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| # ¿ Nov 25, 2012 01:21 |
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I just want to say that Evangelion is the best fictional series/franchise of all-time, and the crazier it gets the better. I'm holding out for a decent fansub before I consume 3.0, but from what I've read I know I won't be disappointed.
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| # ¿ Nov 25, 2012 03:30 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:If it's critical of anything in the didactic sense, it seems more likely to be aimed at bad parenting I'm not sure I'd go that way. Misato's parents died (father at least, and died saving her life), and Shinji is Anno, and from the special I watched his parents were loving and very supportive of his ambitions. If anything I'd say that Yui and Gendo are manifestations of his disdain for selfish ambition (perhaps his own, at that, if not the species at large) or a broader sense of alienation (personal, if not generalized) as a part of the human condition. As well as to drive the plot, of course.
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skywalker6705 posted:
how much do we know about Yui's "demise?" I assume that they pulled the plug and her body was gone. Gendo hints at this at the "graveyard" in Rebuild 2, and perhaps at other points, but there's no reason for us to take him at his word. It follows then that it would make sense to give 01's subsequent test runs a mass production Rei as a pilot before Shinji, given the likelihood of losing him and Gendo's clearest shot at fomenting Third Impact ("Third Child," tee hee...). Assuming he had foreknowledge or at least was making an educated guess.
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