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Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
I don't think I could stop staring at that DB7 long enough to actually ride it in anger.

I mean, for chrissakes, that swingarm is nearly :nws:

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Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
^^ Dooooo itttttt......

Find an R1150GS and save yourself a bit of cash over a new 1200. Before you know it, you'll have ridden all the way to the south of Italy, and run out of land. :v:

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"

Phat_Albert posted:

I do that with the Bandit sometimes, and its only a 5 speed, and already geared fairly low. You just dont notice it.

I keep forgetting that my drat bike only has five speeds, and will quite often find myself trying to reach sixth gear. It's not even like the engine revs at highway speeds dictate it, it's just that one-down-five-up is so loving ingrained in whatever center of my brain unconsciously deals with things like shifting, that it sometimes has lapses.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
If I were going to kill myself, it would likely involve the purchasing of this:

http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/7401531

Just think, it's almost old enough to import to the states now. :v:




:3:

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
It strikes me that you'd have to be some sort of broken in the head to consider a 500cc two stroke a sport tourer, but then again, the closest to riding it I've been is a 77 RD400. I've not seen an RG500 for sale around here... ever, but there's been a few RZ500s. Did one just sell a lot better than the other, or were the Suzukis just stuffed into hedgerows at a much greater pace?

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Cool, I had no idea. I guess it must be the market, as I can't find a single RG within reasonable distance on any of the online listing services (including Seattle in my search didn't help either).

None of the pictures that I've seen of the RG really show the carbs that well - by sticking out the side, how visible do you mean?

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
drat, that's pretty awesome. I guess there's no airbox for them, or maybe a small one on each side that's built into the fairing?

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
So, idly poking around on youtube, I ran across this guy's RC113 replica, and just had to find out more about it (the original, not the replica).

tehinternets posted:

The Honda RC113, introduced during the Japanese GP of 1963, with a total capacity of 49.6 cc

Lubrication is by wet sump, and there are nine speeds in the gearbox. Power output is 13 bhp at 18,500 rpm; the red line on the rev counter is at 19,000 rpm, and short excursions to 20,000 rpm are allowed. Dry weight of the bike is 53 kg, lower than its predecessor through extensive use of magnesium, and a curious front brake.

The latter is the same as used on a normal bicycle, with two brake pads being clamped on to the rim. This saves total weight and unsprung weight, which improves handling. Two large, light alloy discs are mounted on the front wheel to give some streamlining.

13hp from a 50cc engine, a nine-speed gearbox, dry weight of 53kg, and brakes that wouldn't be out of place on a push bike? Sign me the gently caress up. No, really, I would love to know what it was like to ride something this alien to modern motorcycling.
:aaaaa:

Oh, right, photos.

Tiny rear end, 50cc, two cylinder engine, with 4 valves/cylinder. How small would the valves be, to match up with that? :iiam:


Notice the little cable snaking down from the triple to just on top of the front fender...

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
^^ 1963. Apparently it made pretty extensive use of magnesium, to help shed weight, and the brake setup was also in the interest of weight savings, although I can imagine it didn't do wonders for stopping power.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
What's better than a race bike?

http://victoria.en.craigslist.ca/mcy/906274730.html

Click here for the full 1422x621 image.

A vintage race bike. :rock:

What's the vintage motorsport scene for bikes like, compared to cars?

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"

Spiffness posted:

You can talk yourself out of a speeding ticket, but you cant talk yourself out of a 'I was 5 feet in the air on accident!' situation.

Erm... Collision avoidance?

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
^^ See? That guy doing a tabletop over the intersection in SF was just being cautious. If he'd been on the ground, he very likely would have been killed.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Man, why in the everloving gently caress did I not own a balaclava as part of my gear before now? I just had my first ride wearing it, and holy poo poo, what a difference it made. I mean, sure, my hands still required the occasional grope of the engine, and my toes froze off before I even really got going, but having that extra little bit of skin covered (especially my chin, for some reason) just made the ride so much more comfortable. Best $15 I've ever spent on gear, by far.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Yeah, your post was actually the thing that booted my rear end into picking one up. Thanks!

While obeying all posted speeds, I came across a pair of bikes parked on the side of the road, and was so shocked by one of them that I had to pull over and talk with the owner. It was another ZR-7S! It's definitely the only other one that I've seen in the wild, so I chatted with him for a bit, and then decided that I'd tag along (they were hitting another fairly popular motorcycling road). I took lead for the first bit, but thanks to my summer experience training no0bs, I was able to not be a huge dick and run away from him, or lead him (or his friend, on some old british standard) into wadding up on any of the cold, damp corners.

I definitely wave to every other rider (yeah, you crazy motherfuckers on scoots in near zero temps, too) in the winter, and I've yet to not have my wave returned. :)

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
I would if I was planning any trip longer than 'just dicking around,' but about the longest distance in any direction I'll likely be going until spring is ~30km. Wool socks and glove liners up the length of time that I retain feeling, and fondling my engine seems to be reasonably effective at retaining feeling in my hands.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Jeans are definitely not the way to go for protection. After a ~50kph lowside I had, my jeans looked fine, but I had rash where they moved around on me while sliding. On the plus side, they do take a bit more effort to set on fire :v:

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"

Phat_Albert posted:

YES, ALL BIKES HAVE THEIR POSERS THAT GO ALONG WITH THEM.

So what is the stereotypical RV90 poser like?

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"

Phat_Albert posted:

Acts like they ride it on the beach, but really just farts around the yard all day because its not street legal, and they dont want to cough up the dough for a title.

I guess it's just as well that there's so few of them around for a few posers to really poo poo up the scene, hmm? :v:

@TapTheForwardAssist: Two-wheeled noise maker - usually used on people who could give a flying fig what I ride.
bike - pretty much anyone else

Comedy option: steel horse :v:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99h5aikc4g

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Sooo.... Vespa's hosed, but other than that?

Seriously though, I don't see how the states would be able to get away with a 100% duty - the WTO would probably have a few words to say about that.

Edit: Oh right, dirtbikes :doh:

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Clearly the tariffs will encourage consumers to buy more American GM beef.

Read whatever you want into that. :v:

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Goddamn. :aaaaa: That's even more sad than that crazy rear end field full of Z cars rotting away. :3:

I do like how the thread suddenly hit the mainstream, and everyone in the forum were just ... :confused: ... Where the gently caress did everyone come from?

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
What's the difference between the two motors, and why is the CT90 going to be that much better?

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Don't worry, Honda's got something that's a better fit for your snack bracket.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Nerobo, would the addition of a turbo to a 2T engine really gently caress with things, or is it a pretty similar situation to what you get when you turbo a 4T?

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Nice, that looks like a fun little cruise. I imagine that place is far more pleasant in the off season. :can:

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Well, there's always the comedy option of having someone fab up a straight pipe so that the exhaust dumps at the normal location, just without any baffling/restriction whatsoever.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"

Phat_Albert posted:

Theres no need for that poo poo

Well, unless it's loving pouring, and then I'll take whatever protection I can get. Sure, I'm wearing weatherproof gear, but water will find a way in, especially on a longer trip, and anything I can do to stay somewhat more comfortable, I'm going to do.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
I redline my engine to get everyone's attention, and then walk my bike home after a valve decides to make sweet, forbidden love to a piston.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
^^ A tankslapper could be considered a form of waving, no? :v:

I do like the look of confusion that I get from the scooter/'ped brigade when I wave at them - I usually only wave at them during inclement weather/the winter. I love riding by groups of new riders being escorted (MSF road course or equivalent) and giving the whole group a huge wave - usually only returned by a look of consternation by the supervising rider. :)

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Throttle lock + good balance = 4 point wave :supaburn:

If you're missing a throttle lock, at least get both feet and one hand off.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
It only counts as waving if other riders are able to discern what you are doing.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Harley rider, huh?

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"

Gnaghi posted:

I've been wondering about something lately. I'm getting a lot more comfortable with my bike and find myself going closer to the 100mph mark on highways, whipping down twisty roads over the speed limit, and sometimes even passing cars on one-lane roads (when there is plenty of room to do so). I tend to keep this behavior to mid-day weekdays (I'm unemployed now) or after 10pm weekdays, when the roads are fairly empty. This is common behavior, right? Or does it make me a squid? I really just want to enjoy my bike, but I don't want to look like a jackass, either.

Yeah, that's about the point where I looked into the practicality/cost of buying a race bike. I still do a bit of squidding around on the street like that, but nowhere near as much, especially during the months where I can actually play around on a race track.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Honestly? Don't worry about being competitive your first year (or two) out, just get a feel for how different going fast on the track is. I ended up buying a GSXR600, and because it was sooooo much faster than what I ride everyday on the road, it took quite a while to get over the holycrapimgoingtodiethisistoofuckingfast and into actually paying attention to where I was and what I was doing on the track. Tracks usually have classes for the 500cc twins, like the EX500 or GS500, and while they'll never set any sort of land speed record, they are cheap as chips to run, and will allow you to pay attention to what you're doing on the track.

Traffic on a track has always been (and will likely be again this season) my one major problem. I'm far more concerned about being run into (or running into) other riders, that I probably should be. This isn't helped by the fact that my one really major crash involved lowsiding into another rider. :(

You could always just prep your Buell and go have fun on a track day. Just make sure you've got good gear and frame sliders.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Ha. Yeah, 3-7 days on an SV. On my GSXR? Ummm... half a night*.

Remember kids, pay attention to what compound tyres a shop is trying to flog to you as 'really nice take-offs.' Qualifying is fine on a set of SC1, but really, that's what they're meant for, qualifying. They will have astounding grip for a very, very short period of time, and then they will be gone, and you will wonder 'why, oh why, does my bike feel like it wants to swap ends on every single corner under even moderate throttle?' :downs:

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
It's a short oval circuit, so we're on the left edge of the tyres for a good 2/3 of the lap. Even though the races are quite short, it's still more than enough time to get a set of SC0 or SC1 up past where they're happy operating. The guy who ended up winning most of the races last year (also on a GSXR600, but really, really slick suspension and engine-wise) had a brand new set of SC1 that he burned through in the course of one night. The set that I had on were take-offs, so I probably shouldn't have been shocked to only see half a night's use.

I'm currently running an older set of Michelin Pilot Power Race, and they've lasted me fine through three nights of racing and a few practice nights as well.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Yeah, that, and the sticker shock at thinking about having to replace a rear tyre every single race night. :(

Other than that first glitch, racing wasn't that expensive a proposition for me. Petrol for getting to/from the track was far more expensive, especially when it was ~1.50/L

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
It's just something that you'll eventually get more comfortable with. Hell, in time, you'll end up loving them (especially at night), as they're nicely predictable radius corners, with proper (or no) banking, and usually really nicely paved. The traffic is also always going the right way on them. :v:

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"

Ola posted:

:argh:

I think you could be the first person in history to have a valid reason to make an 11/7. :v:

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Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
A 400 isn't close enough? :confused:

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