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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

You wildly underestimated my liver's ability to metabolize toxins.

Fuckin' Steam is slowing down. 93% and my download's down to 1/3 of the original speed. gimme my game.

Not having to pay ridiculous piles of cash for repairs sounds fantastic to me, especially for early-game pirate hunting.

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Solarflare
Apr 20, 2008


Dumb question: I'm trying to scan a pirate base, but I can't seem to figure out how to do it, can someone tell me how to do it?

The Vikings
Jul 3, 2004

ODIN!!!!!

Mokinokaro posted:

I'm guessing the ATF shipyards, if they exist, are on the other side of the Terran jumpgate (Brennan's Triumph perhaps?)

They're definitely cooler ships than the normal Terran ones.
They're not immediately on the other side of the gate(Heretic's End). Just an ATF outpost then it's the argon systems.

Solarflare posted:

Dumb question: I'm trying to scan a pirate base, but I can't seem to figure out how to do it, can someone tell me how to do it?
I found the spot on one side close to one of the ends where the targeting box is for the station. You have to fly very close and go around slowly, eventually you'll find a spot where the scan percentage shows up, then just stop and let it go.

TerminalBlue
Aug 13, 2005

How much Keeffe is in this avatar anyway?

Out of curiosity, people who got the DVD version, where did you get it? Seems like nobody in my town is selling it, from GameStop to Walmart. Granted the people work at GameStop in my town are subhuman troglodytes, but they said they'd never heard of it and wouldn't be getting it. Same story from everywhere else too.

Visidan
Jul 24, 2000

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TerminalBlue posted:

Out of curiosity, people who got the DVD version, where did you get it? Seems like nobody in my town is selling it, from GameStop to Walmart. Granted the people work at GameStop in my town are subhuman troglodytes, but they said they'd never heard of it and wouldn't be getting it. Same story from everywhere else too.
It doesnt have a US publisher, you'll need to import it or use Steam.

PopeOnARope
Jul 23, 2007

Hey! Quit touching my junk!


Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

TAGES was notorious for screwing over legitimate owners. If I recall the myriad of DRM correctly, TAGES is the one that fucks with the actual mechanics of the game if you have an improperly cracked copy. You'll get poo poo like invincible enemies, weapons that do almost no damage, etc. Although I haven't actually heard of anyone using TAGES in a long time, so I don't know how it's changed over the years.

Yep. It's last use was in Dark Star One, and it got so bad with loving legit owners (If you had an SCSI Drive, DVD-RW, or SATA Drive = hosed), that the running solution was to download the reloaded crack.

Trinexx
Aug 31, 2007

Ask me about time-shares at scenic Turtle Rock!

Holy crap on the repair beam!

I need to try that ship hull repair on a Xenon L I got to abort just now after scanning the pirate base. Apparently it didn't have any weapons (It wasn't attacking me at all) and once I got its shields down it ejected with still about 90% hull.

Thing sells for over a million which is great. It will be nice to have an upgrade to a new ship this early in the game.

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.

Gawaine posted:

I found the spot on one side close to one of the ends where the targeting box is for the station. You have to fly very close and go around slowly, eventually you'll find a spot where the scan percentage shows up, then just stop and let it go.

Get within 500m of it, stop, wait.

Returning to Heretic's End after that mission, I ran into an unfortunate situation in Circle of Labor: a Kha'ak carrier, destroyer, and four clusters, about ready to start steamrolling the stations. I deftly fly around them and escape notice, and make it back to Heretic's End. Next mission, I have to patrol through there, and the place is a loving mess. The destroyer and carrier seem to be gone, but the system is FULL of kha'ak scouts. Maybe a hundred.

Me and my wingmen go to work, and clean the place out. :cowboy: There were only supposed to be a few Xenon in the system, not an entire Kha'ak armada. We won anyway!

edit: it turns out that a big Argon force took down the capital ships. Quite a few bombers in there, so they must be effective.

Squiggle fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2008 around 03:23

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

HERO OF THE IMPERIUM


Who said this was actually easy to jump in with now? I have no idea what the gently caress

The Vikings
Jul 3, 2004

ODIN!!!!!

Ledneh posted:

Who said this was actually easy to jump in with now? I have no idea what the gently caress
Fly with left mouse, wsad and mousewheel, shoot with right mouse, click on stuff with left mouse to get contextual options, use buttons on left of screen for detailed options.

If you do the flight school and just open up the menus from the left it's pretty straightforward. What are you having trouble with?

ShinAli
May 2, 2003

The Kid better watch his step.


I'm really excited about this game and will probably purchase it soon, but that's not why I came to post.

I wanted to ask a question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x6IoFH7hhc

What the gently caress does Duke Nukem got to do with Deep Silver?

EDIT: whoops, sorry, I thought Deep Silver was the developer of X3, not the publisher.

ShinAli fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2008 around 02:58

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001



ShinAli posted:

I'm really excited about this game and will probably purchase it soon, but that's not why I came to post.

I wanted to ask a question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x6IoFH7hhc

What the gently caress does Duke Nukem got to do with Deep Silver?

EDIT: whoops, sorry, I thought Deep Silver was the developer of X3, not the publisher.
That video was terrible

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.

Hmm, you can't seem to dock at the Goner temple in Elysium of Light anymore. It's a different model, and doesn't show up on the map. Like debris, but it's not.

Wonder where you get jumpdrives now...

OtherworldlyInvader
Feb 10, 2005

The knowledge gained from the XCom project is lost forever. You have failed to save the earth.

I just started playing the game for the first time and the basic controlls seem streight forward enough, but I'm a little confused. I started out as a Terran, and I've followed the story to the point where they give you a free ship (M5 scout or something), but it seems worse than my starter ship in all aspects. Do they expect you to upgrade it?

Trinexx
Aug 31, 2007

Ask me about time-shares at scenic Turtle Rock!

All I wanted to do was visit Earth, but apparently the other Terrans have other plans and they decide to blow me up instead the moment I even jump into that system.

The view of Earth from the Moon is pretty cool though. I'll have to settle with that until I'm allowed into the system.

However.. once I have a large enough armada I know the first system I'll be wanting to take over.

Samolety
Jan 27, 2008

I'm your robo-lover
Better run for cover


Peasant Revolt posted:

I just started playing the game for the first time and the basic controlls seem streight forward enough, but I'm a little confused. I started out as a Terran, and I've followed the story to the point where they give you a free ship (M5 scout or something), but it seems worse than my starter ship in all aspects. Do they expect you to upgrade it?
I don't have TC yet but judging by X3, I would guess they expect you to use it as a wingman.

ShockLobster
Mar 3, 2008



I couldn't resist, I have this downloading away on Steam right now. I have a quick question though- are the old star system connection maps still mostly relevant?

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

HERO OF THE IMPERIUM


Gawaine posted:

Fly with left mouse, wsad and mousewheel, shoot with right mouse, click on stuff with left mouse to get contextual options, use buttons on left of screen for detailed options.

If you do the flight school and just open up the menus from the left it's pretty straightforward. What are you having trouble with?

The "what the gently caress do I do now that isn't incredibly badly-voiced missions" step, primarily. I always get overwhelmed in sandboxes

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.

Peasant Revolt posted:

I just started playing the game for the first time and the basic controlls seem streight forward enough, but I'm a little confused. I started out as a Terran, and I've followed the story to the point where they give you a free ship (M5 scout or something), but it seems worse than my starter ship in all aspects. Do they expect you to upgrade it?

It's weaker, but much, much faster (once upraded). Being fast in combat can keep you alive.

The ship you're flying is most likely an M4 - a medium fighter. An M5 is a scout ship basically. It's good for mapping out sectors, or shuttling things for courier missions, or running through something.

M5s are the smallest (triangle on your hud), then M4s (triangle with a line under it), then M3s (triangle with two lines). There are other sizes, but those are the basic fighters.

Doing at least some of the story line is a good way to get started. Yeah, the voice acting is atrocious, but it's foreign and who cares maybe people talk goofy in space! But the missions give you free poo poo like ships and items and such.

Mr Pepper
Nov 29, 2006

Top Class


This game is a blast even though a lot of it is just cruising through space. I've just managed to capture three Xenon L ships and I have them auto piloting back to a shipyard. I'm anxious to see how much they sell for!

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.

Mr Pepper posted:

This game is a blast even though a lot of it is just cruising through space. I've just managed to capture three Xenon L ships and I have them auto piloting back to a shipyard. I'm anxious to see how much they sell for!

I am so bad at capturing, are you doing anything special or just getting lucky?

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

"Ooooh, deGrasse Tyson-san..."


Squiggle posted:

Hmm, you can't seem to dock at the Goner temple in Elysium of Light anymore. It's a different model, and doesn't show up on the map. Like debris, but it's not.

Wonder where you get jumpdrives now...

Terracorp should sell them. They did in X3.

And how cool is it to be able to grab a transporter device so close to the beginning. Terrans have them.

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.

Mokinokaro posted:

Terracorp should sell them. They did in X3.

Flying all the way to Home of Light from Omicron Lyrae without a jump drive?

Clouseau
Aug 3, 2003

My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

I'm still downloading mine here, so clarify something for me. Is the campaign in this expansion dealie worth it? I know that it isn't supposed to be worth anything in X3, but did they fix that, or should I just speed out and do my own thing.

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.

Clouseau posted:

I'm still downloading mine here, so clarify something for me. Is the campaign in this expansion dealie worth it? I know that it isn't supposed to be worth anything in X3, but did they fix that, or should I just speed out and do my own thing.

there seems to be multiple campaigns. At least five? All started at different places or with different people.

Think I know of a Goner one, a Kha'ak Annihilation one, and the Terran Conflict.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

"Ooooh, deGrasse Tyson-san..."


There's 5 campaigns (you have to unlock some of them by progressing in others) and I must say the Terran one isn't too bad so far. Gets you a nice wing of M5s pretty quickly.

Clouseau
Aug 3, 2003

My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

I played Freelancer way back when it came out, and I enjoyed the plotty parts. I imagine this isn't as driven by plot as it was, but any similarities or is it a bit more barebones?

Georg LeBoui
Feb 10, 2006
Wearing a Monocle Since 1987

As much as I like TC so far, it just doesn't feel like an X game until the cockpit callback mod comes out. I just need to wait for someone to do that, and until then I'll just have to finish reading the manuals and other guides

Solarflare
Apr 20, 2008


Has anyone been able to find a place to buy jumpdrives in the normal storyline?

Edit: Is there a place to buy them around Omicron Lyrae? Home of Light is really far away for someone on the Terran start.

Solarflare fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2008 around 04:45

wajack!
Oct 1, 2006

by Fragmaster


Solarflare posted:

Has anyone been able to find a place to buy jumpdrives in the normal storyline?

The terracorp HQ in home of light still sells them for 100k.

edit: I don't know about Omicron Lyrae. In the Old X3 you could buy them from any Goner temple, but I haven't seen a single Goner anything yet.

I'm still pissed that jumpdrives aren't available as normal upgrades at shipyards, I mean, c'mon.

wajack! fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2008 around 05:05

Solarflare
Apr 20, 2008


Quote is not edit

wajack!
Oct 1, 2006

by Fragmaster


While I'm here, has anyone done the humble merchant start, and if so, how does one get the campaign going? I've just been exploring and trading, and I went back and found the initial flight school instructor, but after the tutorial nothing seems to happen, even when I try it on a new start. I don't want to miss out on any campaign freebies; trading your way up starting with 10k and a Mercury sucks rear end.

Foggy
May 17, 2004



Is there a demo for this forthcoming? It sounds like fun but I'm not sure I want to drop $40 on something I've never even seen somebody play.

OtherworldlyInvader
Feb 10, 2005

The knowledge gained from the XCom project is lost forever. You have failed to save the earth.

Naveegunner posted:

I don't have TC yet but judging by X3, I would guess they expect you to use it as a wingman.

Thats what I thought but the thing doesnt seem to have any guns (or any equipment of any kind), and I only have about 10,000 credits so far.

Visidan
Jul 24, 2000

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Peasant Revolt posted:

Thats what I thought but the thing doesnt seem to have any guns (or any equipment of any kind), and I only have about 10,000 credits so far.
Just sell it. minor spoiler They give you three M5 ships later on which come with weapons, you can sell those or use as wingmen.

Ion Mage
Dec 21, 2006


I started with the humble merchant starting package, and I've gained enough cash to want to start going into combat (also I figured out finally how to have the mercury do trade remotely, heheh). My first thought was to at least start with mounting impulse ray emitters to my starting discoverer, but they are sold out EVERYWHERE. I literally checked each argon equipment dock out, and there is nothing. Am I missing something here? Any other tips for starting equipment?

Visidan
Jul 24, 2000

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Ion Mage posted:

I literally checked each argon equipment dock out, and there is nothing. Am I missing something here? Any other tips for starting equipment?
Check the factories that make them.

Clouseau
Aug 3, 2003

My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

Perhaps I am just straight up retarded, but I'm having difficulty with this flight tutorial. I'm a humble merchant, and I'm unable to fire, is my ship not outfitted with weapons and I have to pick them up, or am I just not pushing the right button?

Citan7
Sep 26, 2008

There is nothing I can teach you that you cannot learn yourself. But there is much that I can show you so that you do not have to suffer yourself.


Clouseau posted:

Perhaps I am just straight up retarded, but I'm having difficulty with this flight tutorial. I'm a humble merchant, and I'm unable to fire, is my ship not outfitted with weapons and I have to pick them up, or am I just not pushing the right button?

Is there any chance you've selected a different weapon group with the buttons 2, 3, or 4? Try pressing '1' and see if that fixes things. I have not started as a merchant, but often turn off weapon group 1 so that I don't accidentally shoot a friendly target while fiddling around with the menu, but forget to turn it on until after my first pass at an enemy in combat.

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Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.

Clouseau posted:

Perhaps I am just straight up retarded, but I'm having difficulty with this flight tutorial. I'm a humble merchant, and I'm unable to fire, is my ship not outfitted with weapons and I have to pick them up, or am I just not pushing the right button?

If you're flying around in the mercury, then no there aren't any weapons on it because its a freighter and you're poor so the rear turret doesn't have anything either. Change ships into the Discovery, the other ship you have, by Shift+E to eject, fly within 25m of it in your space suit, and hit Shift+E again.

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