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Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

prefect posted:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/CHANGES

Post Here If You Noticed Something Different About The Forums!! HOLY poo poo!

The Technical Thread

Thanks, mentioned the issue in the technical thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3657588&pagenumber=51

In other news, fonts seem to be back to normal. :holy:

# ? Dec 15, 2014 15:40

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 20:30

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

And the fonts are back to poo poo. To get rid of the font fuckery put these 3 lines in your content blockers:

http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans*
http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Noto%20Sans*
http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Roboto*

# ? Dec 15, 2014 16:20

killhamster: Apr 15, 2004; SCAMMER
Hero Member

Mithaldu posted:

And the fonts are back to poo poo. To get rid of the font fuckery put these 3 lines in your content blockers:

http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans*
http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Noto%20Sans*
http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Roboto*

Thanks for this! The rendering is still haywire in Opera but at least I can have half-decent fonts in Chrome while I debate switching over entirely.

# ? Dec 15, 2014 19:03

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Mithaldu posted:

And the fonts are back to poo poo. To get rid of the font fuckery put these 3 lines in your content blockers:

http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans*
http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Noto%20Sans*
http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Roboto*

I think Roboto is actually fairly nice. :shrug:

# ? Dec 15, 2014 19:04

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

prefect posted:

I think Roboto is actually fairly nice.

Not at the font sizes i'm running, and not without a heaping of gauss blur. Though it's not outright terrible, just a little unsuited for small script.

# ? Dec 15, 2014 19:24

suffix: Jul 27, 2013; Wheeee!

prefect posted:

I don't think I'm seeing this any more this morning. Or maybe I've just gotten lucky with my page loads.

Edit: nope, it's back.

I put this as a custom style sheet for SA , which at least makes it somewhat readable. :shrug:

I think it is getting confused and not drawing any background some places, so I just figured, paint it black.

CSS code:

.forum_219 .bbc-block {
	background: black !important;
}
.forum_219 .bbc-spoiler.reveal {
	background: black !important;
}
.forum_219 #ac_timemachine {
	background: black !important;
}
.forum_219 #forum th,.forum_219 #forum td {
	background: black !important;
}
.forum_219 .post tr,.forum_219 .post td,.forum_219 #forum th a {
	background: black !important;
}

# ? Dec 15, 2014 22:07

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

bugfix found :siren:

Add http://downloads.somethingawful.com/misc/*.svg to the url block list, and the duplicating effect vanishes.

# ? Dec 15, 2014 22:35

NFX: Jun 2, 2008; Fun Shoe

Mithaldu posted:

bugfix found

Add http://downloads.somethingawful.com/misc/*.svg to the url block list, and the duplicating effect vanishes.

Weird, I haven't used it a lot, but I haven't seen Opera mess up SVG like that before. Note that this removes the admin/moderator stars, for some reason they're SVG now instead of png. From the CSS:

code:

#thread dl.userinfo dt.role-mod
{
/*
  background-image:url([url]http://fi.somethingawful.com/star_moderator_user.png[/url]);
  */
  background-image:url([url]http://downloads.somethingawful.com/misc/blue_star.svg[/url]);
  background-size: 15px;
}

#thread dl.userinfo dt.role-admin
{
	/*
  background-image:url([url]http://fi.somethingawful.com/star-admin.png[/url]);
  */
  background-image:url([url]http://downloads.somethingawful.com/misc/red_star.svg[/url]);
  background-size: 15px;
}

# ? Dec 15, 2014 23:06

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Mithaldu posted:

bugfix found

Add http://downloads.somethingawful.com/misc/*.svg to the url block list, and the duplicating effect vanishes.

I'm back, baby! :toot:

Thanks so much. :tipshat:

edit: Looks like my platinum grenade is gone, but it's a small price to pay.

# ? Dec 15, 2014 23:07

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

NFX posted:

Weird, I haven't used it a lot, but I haven't seen Opera mess up SVG like that before. Note that this removes the admin/moderator stars, for some reason they're SVG now instead of png. From the CSS:

Refer to this post if you'd like more info on how crazy this bug is:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3657588&pagenumber=52&perpage=40#post439012051

# ? Dec 15, 2014 23:14

NFX: Jun 2, 2008; Fun Shoe

Mithaldu posted:

Refer to this post if you'd like more info on how crazy this bug is:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3657588&pagenumber=52&perpage=40#post439012051

I assume that the platinum grenades haven't always been svg then, since it's only been in the last week or so it started screwing up.

# ? Dec 15, 2014 23:20

Tiggum: Oct 24, 2007; Your life and your quest end here.

Just reinstalled Opera 12.16 and YouTube videos keep pausing and stuttering. Working fine in Firefox, so it's not a connection issue or anything like that. Anyone know what could be causing this or how to fix it?

# ? Dec 19, 2014 10:03

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

Tiggum posted:

Just reinstalled Opera 12.16 and YouTube videos keep pausing and stuttering. Working fine in Firefox, so it's not a connection issue or anything like that. Anyone know what could be causing this or how to fix it?

I suspect the comments loading are interfering because yt pages are now 90% javascript. Enable the "load plugins on demand" thing and only load the plugin when the page is done loading, or just add a right-click menu entry and always load youtube links in chrome: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3007354&userid=125080&perpage=40&pagenumber=6#post430694841

# ? Dec 19, 2014 10:11

Riso: Oct 11, 2008; by merry exmarx

Does turning off javascript on youtube affect the ability to play videos?

# ? Dec 19, 2014 11:30

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

Riso posted:

Does turning off javascript on youtube affect the ability to play videos?

Completely breaks playback for me.

# ? Dec 19, 2014 11:37

Tiggum: Oct 24, 2007; Your life and your quest end here.

Mithaldu posted:

I suspect the comments loading are interfering because yt pages are now 90% javascript. Enable the "load plugins on demand" thing and only load the plugin when the page is done loading

How would I do this? I tried going to opera:config and searching for "demand", which found me "Enable On Demand Plugin", so I checked the checkbox on that, but either that's the wrong thing or it just didn't solve the problem. It didn't seem to have any effect on YouTube at all. :shrug:

Riso posted:

Does turning off javascript on youtube affect the ability to play videos?

Yeah, that just breaks it.

# ? Dec 19, 2014 11:39

Riso: Oct 11, 2008; by merry exmarx

I dont use O12 anymore and in Firefox the comments do not load until you scroll down.

quote:

How would I do this? I tried going to opera:config and searching for "demand", which found me "Enable On Demand Plugin", so I checked the checkbox on that, but either that's the wrong thing or it just didn't solve the problem. It didn't seem to have any effect on YouTube at all.

Right click, site preferences. Also youtube.com/html5 if you (dont) want webm served.

# ? Dec 19, 2014 11:43

AbstractNapper: Jun 5, 2011; I can help

So does the latest Opera Next have some issue with the flash player plugin?
Because youtube videos playback is super glitchy, and occasionally the browser shows a popup on the bottom right about a new flash player version being available (which I must have installed for the billionth time by now).

# ? Dec 19, 2014 12:32

Tiggum: Oct 24, 2007; Your life and your quest end here.

Riso posted:

Right click, site preferences.

That didn't seem to do anything either. And I don't know what webm is, do I (not) want it? :confused:

# ? Dec 19, 2014 12:56

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

Tiggum posted:

That didn't seem to do anything either. And I don't know what webm is, do I (not) want it?

If this is ticked and yt videos still load immediately, then you're already getting html5 videos and need to go to your youtube settings to fix that.

# ? Dec 19, 2014 12:59

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

Tiggum posted:

That didn't seem to do anything either. And I don't know what webm is, do I (not) want it?

Webm is an alternative (to h.264) video codec for the web. My experience with sites that use webm that you don't want it with Opera 12. It works, or almost works, but it has some frustrating playback issues.

I also don't use it on Youtube on Firefox. In Chrome, youtube/webm works ok.

# ? Dec 19, 2014 13:03

Cuntpunch: Oct 3, 2003; A monkey in a long line of kings

Here have some lightweight UserJS that should do the trick:
http://pastebin.com/pjJWYawJ

(this is to fix the admin/mod icon thing without content-blocking all SVGs)

It swaps them back to their former PNG state(which should be fine)

Cuntpunch fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Dec 20, 2014

# ? Dec 20, 2014 02:11

Polygynous: Dec 13, 2006; welp

Cuntpunch posted:

It does have the side-effect of taking way platinum flair, since I don't think there's PNG version of it.

http://i.somethingawful.com/images/platinum-member.png

:v:

# ? Dec 20, 2014 03:21

Cuntpunch: Oct 3, 2003; A monkey in a long line of kings

spoon0042 posted:

http://i.somethingawful.com/images/platinum-member.png

Many thanks. I checked the extension(svg->png) change and it wasn't there and I didn't have any old pages cached that I could dig into so I kind of just moved on. Updated the link in my above post.

# ? Dec 20, 2014 03:36

Tiggum: Oct 24, 2007; Your life and your quest end here.

Wheany posted:

Webm is an alternative (to h.264) video codec for the web. My experience with sites that use webm that you don't want it with Opera 12.

Thanks. This seems to have solved the problem.

# ? Dec 21, 2014 04:51

Wrestlepig: Feb 25, 2011; my mum says im cool; Toilet Rascal

Is there a good image upload plugin? The imgur ones I've seen on other browsers seem a lot more basic for Opera.

# ? Dec 25, 2014 08:41

Boogalo: Jul 8, 2012; Meep Meep

Try puush for hotkey captures. It's a seperate program. http://puush.me

# ? Dec 26, 2014 06:12

Cuntpunch: Oct 3, 2003; A monkey in a long line of kings

Forums just got a CSS update which is causing the background corruption again - new UserJS for the fix:

code:

if (location.hostname.indexOf('forums.somethingawful.com') != -1) {
    window.opera.addEventListener('beforeCSS', function (userJSEvent) {
        userJSEvent.cssText = userJSEvent.cssText
        .replace('http://fi.somethingawful.com/star_moderator_user.svg', 'http://fi.somethingawful.com/star_moderator_user.png')
        .replace('http://downloads.somethingawful.com/misc/blue_star.svg','http://fi.somethingawful.com/star_moderator_user.png')
        .replace('http://fi.somethingawful.com/star-admin.svg', 'http://fi.somethingawful.com/star-admin.png')
        .replace('http://downloads.somethingawful.com/misc/red_star.svg','http://fi.somethingawful.com/star-admin.png')
        .replace('http://downloads.somethingawful.com/misc/gren-left.svg', 'http://i.somethingawful.com/images/platinum-member.png');
    },false)
}

# ? Dec 26, 2014 22:04

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Cuntpunch posted:

Forums just got a CSS update which is causing the background corruption again - new UserJS for the fix:

code:

if (location.hostname.indexOf('forums.somethingawful.com') != -1) {
    window.opera.addEventListener('beforeCSS', function (userJSEvent) {
        userJSEvent.cssText = userJSEvent.cssText
        .replace('http://fi.somethingawful.com/star_moderator_user.svg', 'http://fi.somethingawful.com/star_moderator_user.png')
        .replace('http://downloads.somethingawful.com/misc/blue_star.svg','http://fi.somethingawful.com/star_moderator_user.png')
        .replace('http://fi.somethingawful.com/star-admin.svg', 'http://fi.somethingawful.com/star-admin.png')
        .replace('http://downloads.somethingawful.com/misc/red_star.svg','http://fi.somethingawful.com/star-admin.png')
        .replace('http://downloads.somethingawful.com/misc/gren-left.svg', 'http://i.somethingawful.com/images/platinum-member.png');
    },false)
}

Thanks for this; applying it now. :tipshat:

# ? Dec 27, 2014 00:52

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Is there a way to get Opera to write debugging logs as it runs? There's something about the forums that causes it to start screwing up for me and only partially-loading pages and images, but I haven't been able to nail down the action that's causing it. Restarting the browser gets it back working again for a while.

# ? Jan 8, 2015 18:58

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

prefect posted:

Is there a way to get Opera to write debugging logs as it runs? There's something about the forums that causes it to start screwing up for me and only partially-loading pages and images, but I haven't been able to nail down the action that's causing it. Restarting the browser gets it back working again for a while.

Check your memory usage. At some point, usually when Opera is using somewhere around 3 gigs of memory (my record is nearly 8 gigs), it just stops loading images and applying styles.

# ? Jan 8, 2015 19:52

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

prefect posted:

Is there a way to get Opera to write debugging logs as it runs? There's something about the forums that causes it to start screwing up for me and only partially-loading pages and images, but I haven't been able to nail down the action that's causing it. Restarting the browser gets it back working again for a while.

Are you on windows? If so, are you using the 64 bit version?

# ? Jan 8, 2015 21:24

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Mithaldu posted:

Are you on windows? If so, are you using the 64 bit version?

OSX, and it's gone wonky while using under half a gig of RAM, so it's not that. It only happens to me on this browser, on this machine, on this forum.

# ? Jan 8, 2015 21:26

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

prefect posted:

OSX, and it's gone wonky while using under half a gig of RAM, so it's not that. It only happens to me on this browser, on this machine, on this forum.

In that case i'm clueless and can only recommend asking on the opera support forums.

# ? Jan 8, 2015 21:33

Forever_Peace: May 7, 2007; Shoe do do do do do do do Shoe do do do do do do yeah Shoe do do do do do do do Shoe do do do do do do yeah

Any word from the Opera team about bringing back "sessions" and the ability to drag-and-drop tabs into groups? I miss those things.

# ? Jan 10, 2015 20:09

Mr. Sickos: May 22, 2011

I recently went from using Firefox to Opera 26.0 and I'm not really impressed with it. Is going back to Opera 12 something people do in 2015 or should I just give up?

# ? Jan 17, 2015 17:11

Mithaldu: Sep 25, 2007; Let's cuddle.

Alcatrash posted:

I recently went from using Firefox to Opera 26.0 and I'm not really impressed with it. Is going back to Opera 12 something people do in 2015 or should I just give up?

It's certainly still worth a try. Opera 12 doesn't like Javascript-heavy sites much, but it is better than firefox or chrome in many other ways.

Just make sure you get the 64 bit version: http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=12.17

# ? Jan 17, 2015 18:29

Stadacona: Apr 21, 2014

They have brought back the sync feature with opera next (27). So i can now log back in my old opera account, but unfortunately, the bms, notes, etc are not accessible yet. At least the feature is back so i only need to find a way to export/import the old stuff.

AbstractNapper posted:

So does the latest Opera Next have some issue with the flash player plugin?
Because youtube videos playback is super glitchy, and occasionally the browser shows a popup on the bottom right about a new flash player version being available (which I must have installed for the billionth time by now).

I'm also getting that pop-up everytime i start the browser even though i have the latest version installed

# ? Jan 21, 2015 00:50

Computer viking: May 30, 2011; Now with less breakage.

Apparently, that's caused by flash: There's a whole bunch of versions you might have installed (nsapi, pepper, ie , 32 and 64bit) and if it detects that any one of them is out of date, it sends you to the update page... in your default browser, even if that specific version already is up to date. Check the flash control panel applet and/or add/remove programs to try and find out which one is outdated.

# ? Jan 21, 2015 01:09

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 20:30

YF-23: Feb 17, 2011; My god, it's full of cat!

Stadacona posted:

They have brought back the sync feature with opera next (27). So i can now log back in my old opera account, but unfortunately, the bms, notes, etc are not accessible yet. At least the feature is back so i only need to find a way to export/import the old stuff.

Huh. Is there an intent to steadily bring back old features in general? If so Newpera might eventually be worth upgrading to.

# ? Jan 21, 2015 12:06

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