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EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

I'm using thetvdb.com to scan, but I'll try something else (at least until SSFIITHD is finished downloading).

I backed up and deleted that file and got the same results. Which leads me to believe it could be related to something with the network connection after all. I'm going to try some alternate ways of accessing the data and see what happens.

# ? Nov 26, 2008 23:37

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kri kri: Jul 18, 2007

I installed this on a t41 thinkpad using Ubuntu 8.10 - I get 100% cpu usage now, I even switched to the SVN. Anyone know why this would be?

# ? Nov 30, 2008 05:20

WTFBEES: Apr 21, 2005; HA HA! I'm using the custom title!

kri kri posted:

I installed this on a t41 thinkpad using Ubuntu 8.10 - I get 100% cpu usage now, I even switched to the SVN. Anyone know why this would be?

I was getting 100% CPU all the time until I turned off V-sync. That was in Windows, but it's worth a shot.

# ? Nov 30, 2008 06:03

kri kri: Jul 18, 2007

WTFBEES posted:

I was getting 100% CPU all the time until I turned off V-sync. That was in Windows, but it's worth a shot.

Tried that without luck. THanks though.....

# ? Nov 30, 2008 06:06

mdk: Oct 5, 2003; mdk

I really want to switch to xbmc but there's just no support for live tv with a tuner. It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do.

# ? Nov 30, 2008 06:31

CapnBry: Jul 15, 2002; I got this goin'

kri kri posted:

I installed this on a t41 thinkpad using Ubuntu 8.10 - I get 100% cpu usage now, I even switched to the SVN. Anyone know why this would be?

I don't know what video card you're using but if you're using nVidia, try turning on UseEvents and OnDemandVBlankInterrupts or disabling Desktop Effects? Also make sure if you run glxinfo you see at the top "direct rendering: Yes".

# ? Dec 1, 2008 20:26

EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

I finally figured out my tv shows issue. It did end up being a regex issue. I just added:

code:

    <tvshowmatching>
        <regexp>[\\/][^\\/]*s([0-9]+)e([0-9]+)</regexp>
    </tvshowmatching>

to the advancedsettings.xml file and everything worked out. I guess it choked on the SeriesName being in the actual episode file (\The Simpsons\Season 01\The Simpsons - S01E01.avi).

# ? Dec 1, 2008 21:54

kri kri: Jul 18, 2007

Apparently my video card on my T41 is ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 or a 9000 with 32 megs of ram. Anyone know if this can run XBMC ok? I am still at 100% cpu.

# ? Dec 1, 2008 23:06

CapnBry: Jul 15, 2002; I got this goin'

kri kri posted:

Apparently my video card on my T41 is ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 or a 9000 with 32 megs of ram. Anyone know if this can run XBMC ok? I am still at 100% cpu.

Of course! ATI says "For 3D performance in notebooks, Mobility Radeon 7500 has no equal."

I kid! But seriously, not a loving chance. I mean this is GeForce2 class hardware, which is close to what the XBOX has, but the OpenGL version of XBMC has higher requirements since it runs a more generic implementation. If it is actually a 9000, that's slightly better but unfortunately XBMC isn't super-efficient yet so getting it optimized running on almost-7-year-old hardware isn't feasible at this time.

# ? Dec 2, 2008 19:44

Ashex: Jun 24, 2007; These pipes are cleeeean!!!

kri kri posted:

Apparently my video card on my T41 is ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 or a 9000 with 32 megs of ram. Anyone know if this can run XBMC ok? I am still at 100% cpu.

I think I tried xbmc and it ran like rear end. Give boxee a try, I believe I was able to run it just fine.

I have a T42 with the Radeon 7500 Running Arch linux.

# ? Dec 2, 2008 19:47

HERAK: Dec 1, 2004

CapnBry posted:

Of course! ATI says "For 3D performance in notebooks, Mobility Radeon 7500 has no equal."

I kid! But seriously, not a loving chance. I mean this is GeForce2 class hardware, which is close to what the XBOX has, but the OpenGL version of XBMC has higher requirements since it runs a more generic implementation. If it is actually a 9000, that's slightly better but unfortunately XBMC isn't super-efficient yet so getting it optimized running on almost-7-year-old hardware isn't feasible at this time.

I'm running SD content on an old geforce mx440 and an athlon mp 1800 server board and its absolutely fine, haven't tried anything HD on it as I'm stuck with an old CRT, so YMMV.

# ? Dec 2, 2008 22:30

EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

Yet another stupid question: I store all of my movies in \\MovieTitle\Files.ext format. Some of these obviously have multiple files (\\MovieTitle\FileCD1, \\MovieTitle\FileCD2), and these files are showing up twice in my library. They have the correct information, as it is searching by folder name. I selected the option "treat stacked files as single file" thinking it would chain them together, but that doesn't seem to have done it.

Assuming I get the option right, how do I fix the currently imported library? Do I have to rescan everything again?

# ? Dec 3, 2008 01:19

evilalien: Jul 29, 2005; Knowledge is born from Curiosity.

EC posted:

Yet another stupid question: I store all of my movies in \\MovieTitle\Files.ext format. Some of these obviously have multiple files (\\MovieTitle\FileCD1, \\MovieTitle\FileCD2), and these files are showing up twice in my library. They have the correct information, as it is searching by folder name. I selected the option "treat stacked files as single file" thinking it would chain them together, but that doesn't seem to have done it.

Assuming I get the option right, how do I fix the currently imported library? Do I have to rescan everything again?

You can verify if stacking is working properly by looking at the files in question in file mode. It should only show up as one file. Look here for acceptable filenames: http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=Stacking

As for removing bad entries, try cleaning the library under video settings once you have stacking working right.

# ? Dec 3, 2008 03:53

haywire: Jul 15, 2007; The custom title is an image and/or line of text that appears below your name in the forums

I'm trying to check out the latest SVN build but I have no idea what I am doing? What do I check out exactly? I did svn co http://xbmc.svn.sourceforge.net/svn...ches/linuxport/ as they say on their site, but this seems to be getting everything ever associated with XBMC ever. All I want is the latest and greatest version for win32. I assume I open that in MSVC++ and press release build or something, then? I'm used to compiling things in linux but windows seems way more confusing

# ? Dec 3, 2008 13:09

HERAK: Dec 1, 2004

haywire posted:

I'm trying to check out the latest SVN build but I have no idea what I am doing? What do I check out exactly? I did svn co http://xbmc.svn.sourceforge.net/svn...ches/linuxport/ as they say on their site, but this seems to be getting everything ever associated with XBMC ever. All I want is the latest and greatest version for win32. I assume I open that in MSVC++ and press release build or something, then? I'm used to compiling things in linux but windows seems way more confusing

Try following these instructions.

# ? Dec 3, 2008 13:40

evilalien: Jul 29, 2005; Knowledge is born from Curiosity.

haywire posted:

I'm trying to check out the latest SVN build but I have no idea what I am doing? What do I check out exactly? I did svn co http://xbmc.svn.sourceforge.net/svn...ches/linuxport/ as they say on their site, but this seems to be getting everything ever associated with XBMC ever. All I want is the latest and greatest version for win32. I assume I open that in MSVC++ and press release build or something, then? I'm used to compiling things in linux but windows seems way more confusing

If you are ok with downloading other peoples' compiled executables, new builds are posted almost daily in this thread: http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=35452&page=26

# ? Dec 3, 2008 14:20

EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

evilalien posted:

If you are ok with downloading other peoples' compiled executables, new builds are posted almost daily in this thread: http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=35452&page=26

I'm good friends with kricker, the guy that started that thread, and will vouch for the safety. I don't know the guy that's currently doing it, but I've been downloading new versions on a (fairly) regular basis and not having many issues.

evilalien posted:

You can verify if stacking is working properly by looking at the files in question in file mode. It should only show up as one file. Look here for acceptable filenames: http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=Stacking

As for removing bad entries, try cleaning the library under video settings once you have stacking working right.

Ok, so some movies are stacking correctly and some aren't. I figure that has more to do with how the files are named than anything else. The ones that are stacking correctly, however, are still showing up twice in Library mode. I removed both items from the library, cleaned and imported, and they are still listed twice.

"Flatten" isn't what I'm looking for in library mode, correct?

# ? Dec 3, 2008 17:15

evilalien: Jul 29, 2005; Knowledge is born from Curiosity.

EC posted:

Ok, so some movies are stacking correctly and some aren't. I figure that has more to do with how the files are named than anything else. The ones that are stacking correctly, however, are still showing up twice in Library mode. I removed both items from the library, cleaned and imported, and they are still listed twice.

"Flatten" isn't what I'm looking for in library mode, correct?

In Library mode, XBMC should always be stacking. I was just suggesting you look in file mode as it will clearly show you what is being stacked and what isn't. Your filenames are probably at fault here. You can try defining some new stacking regex as per that link in my previous post or just rename your files. I have no idea why they would be showing up twice though on the ones that are stacking. Are you scanning on the filenames or on the folder?

Flatten is something else entirely. I think it mainly pertains to TV shows where if you only have one season it will skip the season selection entirely and just show all of the episodes.

# ? Dec 3, 2008 17:54

CapnBry: Jul 15, 2002; I got this goin'

evilalien posted:

Flatten is something else entirely. I think it mainly pertains to TV shows where if you only have one season it will skip the season selection entirely and just show all of the episodes.

I can only contribute to say that this is exactly what flatten does. Basically it removes the Genre, Actor, Year, etc categories and just shows you your shows and then shows all episodes in one folder. If you have it set to "if only one season" you still get the removal of categories, but it still splits the episodes into multiple folders unless you only have 1 season in which case it will have all the episodes in the series's top level folder.

# ? Dec 5, 2008 00:25

EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

evilalien posted:

In Library mode, XBMC should always be stacking. I was just suggesting you look in file mode as it will clearly show you what is being stacked and what isn't. Your filenames are probably at fault here. You can try defining some new stacking regex as per that link in my previous post or just rename your files. I have no idea why they would be showing up twice though on the ones that are stacking. Are you scanning on the filenames or on the folder?

Flatten is something else entirely. I think it mainly pertains to TV shows where if you only have one season it will skip the season selection entirely and just show all of the episodes.

So the built in regex is missing stuff like MovieTitle - 1.avi, MovieTitle - 2.avi. I need to rename this kind of stuff?

# ? Dec 5, 2008 20:53

Total Meatlove: Jan 28, 2007; Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Are there any plugins people here would recommend?

I've currently got Apple Trailers and BBC iPlayer for TV, and XBMC Lyrics for Music, but any suggestions would be welcome.

Any skins are also

# ? Dec 5, 2008 21:05

EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

EC posted:

So the built in regex is missing stuff like MovieTitle - 1.avi, MovieTitle - 2.avi. I need to rename this kind of stuff?

Ok, I researched this a bit more. It IS stacking files that have something like CD1, CD2. It isn't stacking files that are named like in my quote, though, which seems contrary to the wiki. The wiki reads like the regex would do too much stacking, and only talks about limiting it.

# ? Dec 5, 2008 21:14

evilalien: Jul 29, 2005; Knowledge is born from Curiosity.

EC posted:

Ok, I researched this a bit more. It IS stacking files that have something like CD1, CD2. It isn't stacking files that are named like in my quote, though, which seems contrary to the wiki. The wiki reads like the regex would do too much stacking, and only talks about limiting it.

It does stack quite the large range of stuff, but apparently it doesn't like that naming format of yours. I would suggest renaming them.

# ? Dec 5, 2008 23:26

EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

evilalien posted:

It does stack quite the large range of stuff, but apparently it doesn't like that naming format of yours. I would suggest renaming them.

Yeah, I only had three or four that didn't work. A buddy of my mine helped with me with some additional regex strings that I think will work as well.

It's taking me quite a bit to get used to this for some reason.

I like it though, MediaStream is pimp!

# ? Dec 6, 2008 00:18

Swiper: Mar 30, 2004; oh noes!11

I'm not really updated on the whole TV/DVR scene, but i figured this would be an appropriate place to ask about it.

I'm wondering if there exists stand-alone dvrs, not requiring PC/Linux to run it, and that would allow me basic dvr functionality (rewinding, recording, skipping, etc)?

And what do you guys think about this? http://www.atlona.com/Atlona-USB-to...er-p-17691.html

A USB to HDMI converter would be a big upgrade, since im currently watching stuff over my S-video cable to my Vizio 32", which is kind of a waste. Certainly cheaper than upgrading my laptop, a Pentium M 2.0Ghz with 1GB of ram, should be sufficient to send HD.

# ? Dec 6, 2008 02:37

evilalien: Jul 29, 2005; Knowledge is born from Curiosity.

You would be better served asking your questions in the HTPC thread in the A/V subforum instead of here. That said, a USB to HDMI converter won't have enough bandwidth to handle video. It's meant for displaying mostly static images; certainly not something as visually intensive as video.

# ? Dec 6, 2008 03:53

Bucket Joneses: Feb 4, 2005; I was born down. You know this.

Swiper posted:

Certainly cheaper than upgrading my laptop, a Pentium M 2.0Ghz with 1GB of ram, should be sufficient to send HD.

Not hardly powerful enough.

# ? Dec 6, 2008 05:34

Ashex: Jun 24, 2007; These pipes are cleeeean!!!

Bucket Joneses posted:

Not hardly powerful enough.

Depends on the bit-rate and size. most 720p should be fine. The problem with a converter is that it would be offloaded to cpu, which if your using xbmc, isn't that big a deal.

# ? Dec 6, 2008 06:21

scotty6435: Apr 12, 2005

Has anyone else had problems with the 'caching subtitles' dialogue taking forever to complete on the Xbox? I've got the latest t3ch build and my subtitles are held on a SMB share. This hasn't been a problem since I put on the non-beta Atlantis!

# ? Dec 6, 2008 15:15

roffles: Dec 25, 2004

Would it be a terrible idea to run XBMC directly from my file server? I'm thinking about just upgrading the CPU/mobo so it can play 720p (maybe a E8500 or something for future-proofing). It's a ubuntu gutsy box with 3x500GB in raid-5 and doesn't do much else.

# ? Dec 9, 2008 16:14

GuyGizmo: Feb 26, 2003; stupid babies need the most attention

Don't know how I missed that there was a final build of XBMC. I just updated my Xbox to have a T3CH build from Dec. 7. I've always had a hard time following this, especially since I'm only using XBMC on my Xbox. Is there a recommended build other than the final one? Does it even matter? The version I've got now seems to work great with no issues.

# ? Dec 9, 2008 16:42

evilalien: Jul 29, 2005; Knowledge is born from Curiosity.

GuyGizmo posted:

Don't know how I missed that there was a final build of XBMC. I just updated my Xbox to have a T3CH build from Dec. 7. I've always had a hard time following this, especially since I'm only using XBMC on my Xbox. Is there a recommended build other than the final one? Does it even matter? The version I've got now seems to work great with no issues.

If you are on a T3CH build from 12/7, you are on a very recent build that is newer than Atlantis Final. I doubt it matters for the xbox much.

# ? Dec 9, 2008 17:44

kri kri: Jul 18, 2007

Is there any hope of getting native remote support?

# ? Dec 9, 2008 20:51

Equilibrium: Mar 19, 2003; In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope.

This would be perfect with global hotkeys. Am I missing something?

Equilibrium fucked around with this message at Dec 10, 2008 around 07:05

# ? Dec 10, 2008 06:57

Landerig: Oct 27, 2008

Well, I downloaded the Live CD version of this and decided to compare it to Geexbox, another linux based live CD media center.

VERY slow and laggy on my first test platform: a 1 Ghz Celeron with 128 MB RAM, whereas Geexbox will play a DVD at full speed on this hardware. XBMC played the video like a slideshow.

Much faster on a 2.8 ghz Pentium 4, yet it wouldn't play all my videos. Geexbox has yet to fail in this area.

Finally, Geexbox is much smaller. An XBMC USB install needs 2 GB on a USB key, whereas Geexbox needs I think maybe 128 MB or less.

I'll stick with Geexbox. It's faster, less bloated, and it plays everything I need it to play.

# ? Dec 11, 2008 16:49

Zedlic: Mar 10, 2005; Ask me about being too much of a sperging idiot to understand what resisting arrest means.

Either I'm dumb or the "Update library" feature works in a really annoying way.

The way I assume a feature called "Update library" works is that it updates the library, as in looks for any new files that haven't been added to the library, as well as removing library entries whose files have been removed.

Apparently, XBMC only checks for new stuff and doesn't care if I've deleted the file behind a library entry long ago.

So, how do you guys manage movie and TV libraries when it comes to removal of stuff? Delete from the library first, then delete the corresponding file from the share? Seems unnecessarily complicated to me. And yes, I know about the "Also delete the file?" feature dialogue when you remove a library entry, I always say yes and it always does nothing. Even if the SMB share is set to "allow users to change my files".

# ? Dec 22, 2008 22:32

evilalien: Jul 29, 2005; Knowledge is born from Curiosity.

Zedlic posted:

Either I'm dumb or the "Update library" feature works in a really annoying way.

The way I assume a feature called "Update library" works is that it updates the library, as in looks for any new files that haven't been added to the library, as well as removing library entries whose files have been removed.

Apparently, XBMC only checks for new stuff and doesn't care if I've deleted the file behind a library entry long ago.

So, how do you guys manage movie and TV libraries when it comes to removal of stuff? Delete from the library first, then delete the corresponding file from the share? Seems unnecessarily complicated to me. And yes, I know about the "Also delete the file?" feature dialogue when you remove a library entry, I always say yes and it always does nothing. Even if the SMB share is set to "allow users to change my files".

I nuke the files and run "clean library" from the video settings -> library submenu. It clears up any stray entries like that.

Also, thanks to CapnBry for taking the time to figure out what was causing the problems with vsync on Intel graphics.

# ? Dec 22, 2008 22:37

Jale: Nov 6, 2005; Living the American dream.

Zedlic posted:

So, how do you guys manage movie and TV libraries when it comes to removal of stuff? Delete from the library first, then delete the corresponding file from the share? Seems unnecessarily complicated to me. And yes, I know about the "Also delete the file?" feature dialogue when you remove a library entry, I always say yes and it always does nothing. Even if the SMB share is set to "allow users to change my files".

Create a file named advancedsettings.xml in your userdata folder and put this in it. It cleans the library up on updates.

code:

<advancedsettings>
<videolibrary>
<cleanonupdate>true</cleanonupdate>
</videolibrary>
</advancedsettings>

This was originally a default feature, but they changed it in case your shares were down and an update would remove everything from it.

And look at http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=Advancedsettings.xml if you want to see what else you do with advancedsettings.xml

# ? Dec 22, 2008 23:26

CapnBry: Jul 15, 2002; I got this goin'

evilalien posted:

Also, thanks to CapnBry for taking the time to figure out what was causing the problems with vsync on Intel graphics.

You're welcome! I wish I knew what caused it when it runs with the fullscreen option, but let's face it the whole fullscreen system in XBMC is a CF anyway. It might be because the window hasn't become visible yet and therefore the request to go topmost fails. Who knows, but it is hard to diagnose without a test system.

# ? Dec 23, 2008 15:59

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# ? May 19, 2013 15:02

Zedlic: Mar 10, 2005; Ask me about being too much of a sperging idiot to understand what resisting arrest means.

Jale posted:

Create a file named advancedsettings.xml in your userdata folder and put this in it. It cleans the library up on updates.
code:
<advancedsettings>
<videolibrary>
<cleanonupdate>true</cleanonupdate>
</videolibrary>
</advancedsettings>
This was originally a default feature, but they changed it in case your shares were down and an update would remove everything from it.

And look at http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=Advancedsettings.xml if you want to see what else you do with advancedsettings.xml

Yeah, I found this after some googling. Thanks.

# ? Dec 23, 2008 18:19

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