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Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Goddamn, I was thinking of putting up this EXACT thread this weekend.

Anyways, is this for making arrangements to play online and whatnot, or to discuss guns in video games in general.

Why? Because MY planned OP was going to start the content with a run-down of the awesome guns of Fallout games, with a special concentration on Fallout: Tactics, aka the only post-apocalyptic RPG/tactical game that would let you run with a bunch of guys in assless chaps and power armor slinging an MP40, a Garand, a Browning M2, a Sten, and a laser Gatling gun.

Yes, I always horded the WW2 milsurp in that game. Yes, I've always been this sad.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2008 22:07

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# ¿ May 25, 2013 21:11

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Uncle Caveman posted:

Is the Construction Set available for the PC version? Coming soon to the Bethsoft forums:

1. Shiny black latex angel wings
2. Pastel elfin anorexia wisp-hair facepack
3. Some bug-eyed animu cats with goggles bullshit

The option's right there on the launcher to activate mods, the same as the launcher for Oblivion. From what I can tell from poking around the whole game is essentially a massive, professionally done, Oblivion mod.

The thought of what kind of loving amazing stuff might come out of the Fallout community is already making me hard. These are people who got by with writing (shockingly half-decent) fan fic and tracking down fallout-esque post-apocalyptic titles in foreign languages to translate themselves - I give it a year, tops, before there's at least a good conversion of Fallout 1 and 2 to the new engine.

Incidentally, apparently Bethesda must be making some money off this, because they've already announced another Fallout title for 2010.

Oh yeah, you should probably not get this game. The guns are unrealistic and the graphics are nothing to write home about. . .

. . . on my 2 year old MacBook Pro running XP. Holy poo poo I can't believe the thing will run on this and that it looks as good as it does. Seriously, this is digital heroin. My girlfriend is calling the game the "other woman" in our relationship. Mark my words, this poo poo will ruin more lives than crack and meth put together.

# ¿ Nov 24, 2008 14:34

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Uncle Caveman posted:

Oh, I know Bethesda is good about building in support for mods; I was just wondering if the CS came in the box like Morrowind, or will be released for dl later like Oblivion.

Speaking of Oblivion, I really would like to complete at least one storyline after 2+ years before diving into another Fallout game...

Oh christ, don't even bother with finishing Oblivion. The end game is so mind-numbingly repetitive that I couldn't be bothered to grind the same "find portal/close portal/move on to next portal" quest 20 times or whatever it was to finish it out.

Oblivion is probably the best example I've ever seen of a game with an amazing engine, a great structure, awesome side quests, and a pretty compelling main quest . . . up until the moment when the designers said "gently caress it" and just phoned in a cookie-cutter grind-fest for the epic end of the main quest.

The last third of that game was the very definition of :flacid:

# ¿ Nov 24, 2008 15:04

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

JEEVES420 posted:

I guess I am in the minority on Fallout 3. I find it kinda boring and I don't like the combat.

The endless walking is where I get bored the most. You don't even have to be "on the look out" because your radar thing will show you where enemies are before you can see them. If there were vehicles it would be 100 times more fun. The quick trip feature is nice but takes away from the whole "desolate wasteland" when all you are doing is hopping from one city to another. Vehicles instead of the quick trip would keep you more immersed in the game.

I don't like the combat due to how many hits it takes to kill things. There is nothing more discouraging than shooting someone in the face and nothing happens. VATS sucks; again you use it to shoot them in the face and not only do they not die but now they have like 5 seconds of you frozen in place to shoot the poo poo out of you.

Well, YMMV and all that, but you're not playing it right, somehow. I'm running on "hard" and by level 12 I was single headshot killings stuff in VATS with regularity.

The quick trip thing is actually a pretty good translation of the system they had in Fallout 1 and 2. Besides, you do have to walk all the way out there the first time - walking back and forth between far flung corners of the map would get old fast. I can understand not having vehicles - I don't even want to think about how much more complex that would make the game, plus all he potential areas where it could jut flat out break it.

# ¿ Nov 24, 2008 17:36

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

JEEVES420 posted:

With vehicles you would get there faster than walking and still stay immersed in the game. Maybe a super sprint like Stalker had.

As for the combat I don't understand it. It will take me 3+ hits to the face with any weapon. Maybe I am just too low level but it is a turn off non the less. I will go back to playing it once this years game season is done. There are just so many more titles I would rather play than Fallout 3 right now.

FWIW I never had any interest in playing the other fall out games. love the concept and environment just never liked the game play.

Eh, to each their own. I beat all 3 of the other fallout titles at least 2-3 times each. poo poo, Fallout 3 is making me think of reinstalling Tactics for shits and giggles.

The vehicles thing would be hard to implement in this game. All the items are permanent - which is why multiplayer is a big no-no. Drop a rifle on the ground at level 3, come back at level 20, and it will still be there as long as a game event didn't reset the area e.g. leaving poo poo on the ground when you leave Vault 101 expecting it to be there when you come back to Vault 101. I imagine vehicles would make things pretty interesting in that regards.

Then there's the physics system. The one they have works, and works well, but it's not exactly the most crazy and realistic. poo poo drops and stacks about right, and that's all it needs to do, and dead bodies usually do some fairly logical stuff, although sometimes you get wonky poo poo like blown off arms floating in mid air. I really, really don't want to think what vehicles moving at high rates of speed would do in that enviornment. Frankly, they had better places to spend their time when making the game than working out how to let you drive around without utterly breaking the game.

The stalker super-sprint was loving retarded and having to spend 20 minutes hiking from one map to another was one of my major gripes with that game. When I'm stockpiling virtual red bulls and sacrificing precious weight allowances not because of a benifit I'll get from them but because it will help speed up a pointlessly stupid "feature" your game is broke. As I recall I edited my config file to make sprinting use 0 stamina, but if I'm doing that your feature is also broke.

To each his own, though. If you don't like it don't play it. God knows there's enough games out there that people seem to love which I find so stuipd it hurts.

Oh, and about mirelocks: shoot the fuckers in the face - it's the only unarmored spot on them. If your small arms is over 50 a shot or two with a combat shotgun that isn't totally broken should do the trick

# ¿ Nov 24, 2008 19:25

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Chill_Bebop posted:

SteamID: chill_bebop

Usually playing TF2, DoD, Fallout, L4D soon, and anything else I already own.

A guns of Fallout 3 thread would be pretty cool. Nothing is based off real guns save for the Chinese Pistol and Lincoln's Repeater, but hell if they aren't all still cool.

gently caress the guns of Fallout 3, Fallout 1, 2 and tactics had some hilariously awesome real guns.

FN FAL? Check.
Zip gun made out of pipe and string? Check.
M1 Garand? Check.
Mp5? Check.
Mp40? Check.
Bona fide "chambered in x39" AK? You better loving believe it.
Ma-loving-deuce? Check, and we'll throw in a crate of DU rounds to make B4Ctom1 froth at the mouth and rant about how they were never produced to boot.

# ¿ Nov 24, 2008 21:31

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Scottish_Loser posted:

Ok, so back to Fallout... I've always wondered, how does this gun work?

It has a 12 shot mag, and revolver cylinder... AND a pump mechanism?

It works on a this little principle known as being

# ¿ Nov 25, 2008 02:37

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Uncle Caveman posted:

What the hell, Bethesda?

Eh, annoying but whatever. Just make a save before you finish it out and go around to do side quests and gently caress around.

Me, I just dole out the main arc in games like this. I'll do main quests a bit, then when I come to a logical halting place I'll just go nuts wandering around and doing anything but for a good long time.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2008 13:41

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Pitch posted:

Because .44Magnum is pretty rare? I dunno, that's like asking why you don't use the Alien Blaster all game, when you could basically get it at level 2.

Eh, it's not TOO rare. If you make an effort to talk to every vendor you see most of them have at least a few rounds of it. Buy up all you see and don't waste it plugging random rad roaches and you'll be fine.

I'll agree that the spread of small arms was a bit lackluster, but they had to include five entire sets of weapons: small arms, energy weapons, big/support weapons, explosives, and melee weapons. Each weapon within those basically represents the same amount of time developing it, making the textures and models, play testing it, and so on. When you look at the number of total weapons in the game it's pretty repectable, especially when you factor in the unique versions of stuff and the guns you can build.

That said, this IS a bethesda game on the Oblivion engine. I'd be really, really surprised if they don't come out with an expansion for it sometime between now and their projected 2010 release for the next Fallout title.

Here's a little tip: don't raise any weapons skills above 75 or so through your character advancement points. Between the 10+ permament points bobble heads that are out there and all the books you can find (not to mention the automatic bumping in those skills that comes when you get the related +1 bobbleheads for stats - AGI leading to more small weapons, for example) it's really easy to get to 100 from there. So, instead of rushing to 100 small weapons by lvl 12 spead that poo poo around and you'll find a MUCH wider variety of guns which make sense for you to use.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2008 16:12

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

No, I mean it's pretty much the coolest weapon along with being an all around bad rear end weapon. That and .44 magnum isn't uncommon. Oh, and the FAL was kind of pointless with how soon you get the Chinese Assault Rifle.

That's not a FAL, that's a CETME/G3.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2008 16:36

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

El Jorge posted:

Anyone in TFR still play DoW?

I cut way back after that crashing issue became pronounced in the last couple months.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2008 17:56

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

El Jorge posted:

Play it without Soulstorm. I did and I didn't have any problems. Granted, I haven't played in a while. I'd start again if we could rustle up some players.

On that note, Company of Heroes anyone?

It was a (admittedly really bad) joke. DoW, Dow, crashing, financial crisis. . . .

. . . yeah, I won't go for a career in stand up any time soon.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2008 18:14

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Gewehr 43 posted:

I haven't the slightest idea what my steamID is. Probably something along the lines of Gewehr43 or the likes. Whatever the case is, the only place you'll ever find me is in Red Orchestra, typically on the TWB East coast 50 player server. Most often, I am on the German side, but not always. My handle in-game is [lljk]Gewehr_43, predictably.

As for other games... I currently am enjoying a lot of the following:
Fallout 3
Silent Hunter III
Hidden & Dangerous 2 <--- pick this up in a bargain bin for cheap. It's awesome.

And I just bought Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942. A hardcore WWII German/Russian tank sim that's getting great reviews from a lot of very hard-to-please gamers.

Why are we playing all of the same games? (although admittedly I haven't gotten much time on the others since I got sucked into Fallout 3, and my game time is rather limited during this part of the year).

Also, seconding the H&D2 recommendation. It's a massively fun game that can be had for next to nothing these days.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2008 19:25

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Sturdy posted:

No sir, I have not. But I'll look into it

Let's just say that I've got track marks from that game.

Hoooooooly poo poo is that some fun.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2008 21:14

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

TerminalBlue posted:

People around here are apparently a big bunch of jerks who don't own it or in fact even know of the existence of the TFRest game out now aside from Red Orchestra.

But not me. I understand you, baby.

Let's get some co-op going on sometime. Hit me up on Steam or XBox Live(though I'm rarely on there). I'm usually free pretty late on most days, but should be around in the afternoon or so Mon-Wed.

P.S. We don't have to play as the Germans all the time, do we?

P.S.S. gently caress the Allied campaign. The bonus missions awesome though.

Is it that good? I haven't been able to find a good rewview of it, which makes me rather uneasy buying it. I"ve gotten pretty damned burned on my last few WW2 games.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2009 18:47

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Empire: Total War

Good:

- Even more streamlined Total War interface keeps you fighting wars and expanding your empire without bogging you down with repetitive bullshit tasks. Not having to recruit and manage a small loving army of random as hell "agents" (priests, diplomats, assassins, loving daughters, etc) is a welcome change. Now they just spawn once in a while with the right buildings built and you can automate most of them to just do their thing and carry out your despotic whims.

- Battles are loving HUGE.

- Battles are loving GORGEOUS.

- Battles have loving GUNS. The first time I watched about 2,000 of my Prussian line infantry (yes, I play Prussia, gently caress off) crackle off a volley of musketry, take the return like men, and rattle off another to break the back of those damned, dirty Danes. . . well, let's just say that I'm reevaluating my stance on my father's fudd-tastic blackpowder collection.

- You can now research technology, and this gives units more and different abilities. Remember how in all the other games you had to replace your whole loving army six times over as new and better poo poo became available? Now your soldiers just get better at their jobs and get new formations, tactics, abilities, etc. When your soldiers learn fire by volley (i.e. the front row fires, then kneels while hte middle row fires, they kneel while the back row fires, etc) they DOMINATE the guys who are still doing it the old way, and all without rebuilding your army from scratch. (for the curious, this really was a major tactical development in the early 18th century - it really did take Europeans about a century to figure that one out). Those line infantry you've fought over half of central Europe with and who are veteran bad asses? No need to replace them, you can actually have a veteran army in the later game.

-NAVAL BATTLES. Oh holy poo poo it is so much fun to cross some silly fucker's T with your battle line of 74 gun frigates. Also, the British Navy is just as scary as you imagined. gently caress with them at your own risk.

-Trade makes so much more sense now.

-Colonies - Go conquer N. America or India, all the cool kids are doing it.

-Revolutions - they are the poo poo and are lots of fun. I just had one and ditched all my old white and black Prussian flags for the fancy red/gold/black of the rhineland revolutionaries of 1848 (aka the current flag of the Federal Republic)

Bad:

- Your computer better be good. That said, I run it acceptably decent looking and without stuttering or anything on a 3 year old MacBook Pro with 2 gigs of ram under XP Pro.

- MOTHERFUCKING 15 GIG INSTALL?!? Are you kidding me?

- Steam!!!

- You WILL find yourself googling around at 3 am to find out how much a repro Brown Bess would cost.

- Playing this game is not conducive to finishing another draft of your MA.

If you have any interest in this sort of thing, go buy it.

Now I need to go, loving Sweden just declared war on me for having a democratic revolution and I need to send the Kriegsmarine from its anchorage in Danzig to sweep the Baltic and teach them a lesson in humility.

And by "teach them a lesson in humility" I mean land my best army in Oslo and burn the fucker to the ground.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2009 22:52

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Sgt. Shaved Balls posted:

YES! gently caress Oslo!

Is there a demo?

Yes, there is. Free on Steam (STEAM!!!!

).

You get to kick some colonial rear end as the Redcoats.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2009 22:57

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Otto Skorzeny posted:

I don't get this dislike for Steam at all

It's a resource hog (well, compared to NO client - it's not as bad as it could be) and I don't see the reason why I have to have a client open to play a game offline. I just don't like extra poo poo running in the background while I'm playing a game, especially poo poo that shouldn't be there in the first place. I bought it on DVD. I can wrap my mind around needing to dial home to authenticate a CD key (that's pretty standard these days) but having to have the damned thing open all the time while playing it?

gently caress that.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2009 23:38

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Scarecrow411 posted:

So I was late to the party on Fall Out 3, which is pretty much the STALKER's better developed younger sister. You didn't think she was hot, because you had grown up with her... Then you were hanging out at STALKER's house one day and a friend pointed to FO3 and said "I would plow that for months at a time," and you put your cleets on and decided to sprint for home plate.

Is there anything exceptional I should be doing? So far I've just been maxing out small arms/laser weapons and shooting fools in the face with my 10 milla thrilla. I just got to Three Dogs at Galaxy Radio.

Save all the Nuka Cola Quantum you come across. believe me, that will make one quest later on where you ahve to turn in 30 of the loving things WAY easier if you haven't actually been drinking the poo poo the whole time.

once your small arms skill gets up there go visit the smithsonian and steal Lincon's Repeater. That gun is basically the best one in the game.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2009 19:52

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

OK, what mods should I be running here? I'm usually pretty conservative with my modding, but I'm looking for a bit of extra flavor before the new DLC on the 5th.

Right now I"m running Anchorage, the Pitt, and the Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch (fixes a lot of silly little mistakes that the dev team missed - no actual content additions that I"m aware of), all on top of the latest Fallout patch.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2009 03:20

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

emathey posted:

Mauser M712 SMG? <-- Never heard of this in real life, but who knows.

Slap a detachable stock on a Mauser C96, put an auto-sear in the trigger mechanism, drill out the bottom of the fixed mag well, and put in a magazine release/retention system for the new box mag you designed as well. End result: full auto C96 that doesn't need to be loaded with stripper clips.

Yes, this really existed.

# ¿ Apr 29, 2009 01:16

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

The Sphinxster posted:

Is that Dawn of War II? Because I really don't appreciate you forcing me to buy it by posting that screenie if it is.

Yeah, more on this.

Is DoWII worth buying? As I understand it it's less massive armies and huge RTS stuff and more squad level?

# ¿ May 3, 2009 16:25

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

The Automator posted:

Haha good luck with that, it doesn't fuckin' work yet dude.

What do you mean it doesn't work yet?

# ¿ May 5, 2009 20:50

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Inspector_71 posted:

Speaking of, I've been on a Band of Brothers kick lately and have a real hankering for some tactical WWII games, preferably realistic (although overly cinimatic like CoD stuff will work to), what should I track down?

If you don't need it to be multiplayer you really, really need to check out Hidden and Dangerous 2. Basically it's a Rainbow Six style tactical shooter that has a squad system that manages to combine the potential for insanely detailed operations that the original Rainbow Six had with the ability to run and gun it (albeit in a VERY lethal enviornment) and use your guys for support (kind of like Ghost Recon).

You play british commandos doing horribly bad rear end stuff in Europe.

Great game. Every magazine is tracked seperately so if you're a tactical reload fan you'll end up holding 15 half empty thompson mags by the end. You can take anything off enemy soldiers from uniforms to knives to binoculars to weapons, and every weapon takes the appropriate ammunition and magazines for it. No more loading your thompson with ammo taken off guys with MP40s, and just because your BHP uses 9mm doesn't mean you can use mags taken off the guys with Lugers (no, you don't have time in the middle of a firefight to strip rounds out and reload your mags).

Oh yeah, and better yet each squad member is unique, so they get better stats as you use them in operations. Each operation is multiple missions without re-stocking you between them, so by the last mission you're usually using all German equipment, having long since tossed the stuff you dropped in with that you don't have ammo for any more.

The first operations are in 1941 and the final operations are in extremely late war Czechoslovakia.

It is, to put it simply, awesome. Graphics aren't anything spectacular by today's measures, but still respectable (think really, really good 2003-4 era graphics). You can probably run it on a mildly crappy laptop at this point.

It's one of my favorite games and I"m guessing I must play through it about once a year or so.

Better yet, it's trivially easy to find for under $10 If you can't find it, drop me a PM and I can send you my copy.

Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at May 5, 2009 around 23:07

# ¿ May 5, 2009 23:05

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Pyruvate posted:

I ended up using the same 4-5 guys the whole game. I really liked the mission where you had to take the airfield in North Africa. I had my sneaky guy using the DeLisle, sniper cover, and a couple machine gunners, it's a really detailed game.

Oh yeah, inevitably you end up rolling with the same squad for the entire game.

By the end they're unbelievable badasses that destroy all that are foolish enough to get in their way.

Perfect mix of realism and actually being a fun as hell game that you can kick some serious rear end in.

edit: the shipped version of the game had some nasty bugs in it, but they fixed all those by version 1.2 It's been stable at version 1.4.something since 2005 or something now, and it's just about as rock solid as can be.

# ¿ May 6, 2009 00:00

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Electric Victorian posted:

I absolutely cannot stand the current incarnation of DoD. I don't mean to get on the "it was better back in the day train!" But pre-retail DoD for the gld_src engine was awesome. It had great ballistics for its time (a huge improvement over CS), and had a very nice, slow pace to it that required a lot more slow moving and prodding then current DoD's RUSH THE loving POINT RIGHT NOW (with a modicum of suppressing MG fire) style of gameplay. I don't know. Old DoD just felt more like an actual wargame. DoD:S is more like World War Strike Deathmatch Classic. I hadn't played for about 6 months until last week when I decided to give it another chance. I saw the words DOMINATION appear across my screen, and the disenfranchisement was complete.

This is pretty much the exact reason why I don't play it at all any more.

# ¿ May 6, 2009 00:13

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Electric Victorian posted:

I don't mean to be the local "listen to how much better games used to be" dude, but I had been playing DoD in its various incarnations since Beta 1 up until the release of Source. It started out as such a great game, and I got to watch as they added all these great features like bleed outs, a crazy weapon selection (two loving kinds of FG42s! TWO loving KINDS!), airborne missions, D-Day, and then got to watch as reversed the design process take them out one by one, until all that was left was dominations and dod_flash.

Right there with you. I played the hell out of that in college. It was really at its peak right after they added the man-portable MGs.

Source started OK, but then they just kind of killed it by inches. I don't even waste the hard drive space on it any more. It just sits on my Steam list, inactive, a silent memorial to past glories.

# ¿ May 6, 2009 00:29

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

El Jorge posted:

I miss the M1 Carbine

It was so much fun back in the day. My friends and I would roll in with a 1919 and a Carbine, sometimes a Garand if three of us decided to defend, and just wreck poo poo.

Wait, what? They took the M1 carbine out? What the gently caress?!?

God, sounds like this thing got even shittier.

# ¿ May 6, 2009 00:50

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Inspector_71 posted:

It's been reduced to the Secondary weapon for the Allied Bazooka man.

I don't know why they even put the loving bazooka class in since there's no armor.

Adding rockets to DoD was the beginning of the end and one of the first changes Valve made when they started getting really involved with it.

Basically they put them in to make it more accessible to FPS rocket kiddies.

Theres an argument about it marginally balancing bunkered in MGs, but the reality is that it just turned it into a pile of poo poo.

# ¿ May 6, 2009 01:11

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Bored As gently caress posted:

Somebody needs to make DoD 1.3 or 1.4 (or whatever was the best beta or best pre-steam version) server, get a good map rotation on it, and loving run that poo poo. I'd be willing to pay good money to be able to play that again - to relive that one part of my high school years that I'd want to relive.

If anyone can find a copy of it from back when it was free I've still got my old HL CDs around here somewhere.

Once tomorrow's over I'm done grading blue book essays and I'd be so down for some TFR goon-on-goon classic DoD it's not even funny.

Give me an MG42 or a Thompson and I will loving rock your world.

Edit: HS sucked pretty hard for me as well and oddly enough DoD was one of the only good parts of it for me as well. The friends I hung out with were a nerdy lan party crowd. College is where booze, women, pot, guns, not living with my parents, and all the other great things about post-HS life came in.

# ¿ May 6, 2009 04:39

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Inspector_71 posted:

http://software.filefront.com/Day+o...fdefeatmod.com/

Check in the Official Demos folder.

So, which version do we want?

Oh holy poo poo.

Ok, which version was the one BEFORE the "upgrade" with all the British stuff? The one with all the airborn stuff was so-so as well, but I could rock it I guess. . .

Ideally I'd like the one from after they got MGs worked out really well. I THINK that was 1.2.

Anyone have a change log for them?

# ¿ May 6, 2009 04:54

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

For some reason I think I recall 2.x being my favorite.

drat, time to go dig up the old half life discs.

edit: also, I'm fairly certain I can scare up a few old college buddies who aren't assholes and actually lurk TFR for this. The guy who introduced me to TFR is now a grad student over at CalTech who in his spare time kills digital kittens or something.

# ¿ May 6, 2009 04:58

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Inspector_71 posted:

Oh yeah, I only have Half-Life through Steam, will i still be able to install this in a way where it's usable?

Dunno, but ten dolla

# ¿ May 6, 2009 05:12

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Bored As gently caress posted:

Yep. Me too.

Okay guys, if we actually do this I will be the happiest dude alive.

Here are all the DoD versions:

For some reason, I remember beta version 1.3b being my favorite (I don't remember why, it's been YEARS). But I remember 3.1 also being awesome, too.

Here is a website for the classic DoD version 3.1: http://www.moddb.com/mods/day-of-defeat-31-beta . This is what they say:

Here's the download link for it. It works with Steam and is the full 3.1 version. http://www.moddb.com/mods/day-of-de...team-compatible

We could also do it with version 1.3b (download link), but I figured 3.1 would be fine. I'd be willing to donate a few to help set up a server for us. Now all I need to do is re-buy the original HL (I can't find my old CDs) and we'd be all set!

YESSSSSS

I'm game for anything pre-commercial that had MGs incorporated. I'd also be willing to pitch a few

for some server space to make this happen.

gently caress you noisy kids and your zombie boomers, bangers, or whatever. I don't need fancy pants lighting and a mini-14 sniper rifle. Give me a scoped K98k and an open view of a beach that's the same lovely sand texture with visible tiles and I'm a happy camper.

Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at May 6, 2009 around 05:31

# ¿ May 6, 2009 05:28

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Gtab posted:

Literally.

You should see me with an MG42.

I set up a tent and a campfire and everything.

There may be S'Mores.

# ¿ May 6, 2009 05:46

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Inspector_71 posted:

Steam started working, DoD is installed, I just fired it up and holy poo poo memories. Although, it seems a little wonky in that Riflemen don't get to select a weapon, Sergeants get to choose between Thompson and M1 Carbine and it's not British on Caen.

Was the Grease Gun and the M1/Carbine Rifleman options on the Para maps only?

There are only 3 servers running 3.1, and they were all empty, but it is almost 4 AM EST.

EDIT: I guess to answer my weapons questions, yes, that's Para only. I just hosed around on Glider a little and holy poo poo I cannot wait to get a crew together.

EDIT2: Found dod_dog1, it's as cool as I remember. http://files.filefront.com/dod+dog1...;/fileinfo.html

Where are you finding 3.1, or at the very least a 3.0 - 3.1 patch? The only one I'm seeing is 3.0.

REmember, I'm going to be installing this the old fashioned way, without loving around with Steam.

# ¿ May 6, 2009 16:40

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

The Sphinxster posted:

Why? I used to hate Steam, but it is really pretty inoffensive these days. Hell, I'm going to come out and say I like it.

Because I own the old HL1 CDs and don't want to pay for the game again to activate it on Steam.

# ¿ May 6, 2009 16:48

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

The junk collector posted:

The link 2 posts up? Or the one like four posts before that? I think you may have to go through steam to use the server browser but I'm not certain. The install is just to run the .exe and point it to your half-life1 directory.

Yeah, that's where I was looking, and they only have 3.0, not 3.1

# ¿ May 6, 2009 16:49

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

The Sphinxster posted:

Yeah, what that other guy said. You should be able to just put your keys in to Steam and even throw away your cds if you want. It is a Valve game, after all.

Huh, learn something new every day. Awesome.

# ¿ May 6, 2009 16:58

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# ¿ May 25, 2013 21:11

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Bored As gently caress posted:

Oh gently caress. Firearms was the loving greatest (second only to DoD) back in the day. Nothing like a poo poo fuckton of real world weapons and killing bad guys in a game that's semi-realistic (or at least realistic compared to other games, Rainbow Six notwithstanding).

Me, I ran the other direction. When I wasn't playing DoD it was all about Action Halflife or Blood Opera. Crazy acrobatic John woo movie action with dual Skorpions or a sawed off hand-cannon that would send people flying across the map? Yes please!

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