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JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

I guess I am in the minority on Fallout 3. I find it kinda boring and I don't like the combat.

The endless walking is where I get bored the most. You don't even have to be "on the look out" because your radar thing will show you where enemies are before you can see them. If there were vehicles it would be 100 times more fun. The quick trip feature is nice but takes away from the whole "desolate wasteland" when all you are doing is hopping from one city to another. Vehicles instead of the quick trip would keep you more immersed in the game.

I don't like the combat due to how many hits it takes to kill things. There is nothing more discouraging than shooting someone in the face and nothing happens. VATS sucks; again you use it to shoot them in the face and not only do they not die but now they have like 5 seconds of you frozen in place to shoot the poo poo out of you.

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JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Commissar posted:

Wait....

You don't like walking everywhere, but you don't want to get anywhere fast because it ruins the atmosphere?

With vehicles you would get there faster than walking and still stay immersed in the game. Maybe a super sprint like Stalker had.

As for the combat I don't understand it. It will take me 3+ hits to the face with any weapon. Maybe I am just too low level but it is a turn off non the less. I will go back to playing it once this years game season is done. There are just so many more titles I would rather play than Fallout 3 right now.

FWIW I never had any interest in playing the other fall out games. love the concept and environment just never liked the game play.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

WimpBastard posted:

Well after the conclusion of the main quest the game would be broken.

SteamID: "WimpBastard"

I have a lot of games, I just finished exams and I'm going to be spending most of my free time playing games before my trip to America .

I think the best thing would be to get a big rear end game of Civ4 going. Sure it takes ages to play through but it's pretty awesome. That or some SWAT4.

Swat 4 was awesome. I used to host a server and I am willing to do so again if enough people are interested. I have a 15/15 connection so bandwidth shouldn't be an issue.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

On the topic of lack of weapons Stranglehold is the first game to come to mind. Hard Boiled had all kinds of gun porn. I was expecting a plethora of guns to choose from including the Thompson Center Arms Contender. Instead we get the standard video game load out; Beretta, Desert Eagle, Spas-12, MP5, m4, Saw, LAW, and grenades.

for reference http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Hard_Boiled

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

WimpBastard posted:

On the other hand, RTS games always give me the shits since people who spend more time playing it just know what to build to get the most efficiency. World in Conflict is pretty good though since everyone is on an equal footing in that regard. RTS games always annoys me when having the wrong units basically results in a complete massacre of your army.

JEEVES420: Did you run the SSF mod for SWAT4?

It was back when it first came out so it was just a standard SWAT 4 server. I would be down for anything if enough people want to play. I got a friend that would love to play it again.

I play RTS single player or co-op against computer enemies. That is unless there are ground rules in place like no large attacks until both sides are ready or no super weapons. In RTS I like to make my bases neat and orderly. All power reactors in one area, all units in one area, etc.

I forget which C&C it was but I was playing the computer and everyone of its units were dead but one guy that fell off the map or something. He was no where to be found so I said gently caress it and turned the entire map into one giant base with streets and everything. Took me like 2 hours to build it.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Insurgency is all about the flanks. If your entire team is pushing one way you and a few others head the other way. There is usually only one or two people guarding the flank. If you can get by them you can gently caress the enemy up.

I used to play Insurgency a lot about a year ago but I have since gone to just playing single player games. I don't have the time to play multiplayer enough to not suck like I used to.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197962356682

Is that all you need for an invite to the group? I just got left 4 dead and need people to play with

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Played all day and L4D is awesome. last game I played we made it to the plane and I accidentally shot my roommate in the face leaving him behind.

For most the nignth we played with a guy that would leave us all behind when we got close to a safe house. Nice for a game but real life he doesnt get to come with us.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Left 4 Dead is a game I would not play on the console. It is hard enough trying to get clean shots with a mouse. I would be TKing everyone on the console.

Infrared, post your specs. I have buckets of parts I am not using. If all you need is a 512 stick and a PSU I might be able to accommodate you. This game is on the half life 2 engine so you don't need much to run it.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Do you guys play only versus or campaign? I cant get enough of playing campaign. There is nothing like falling to the ground and being left behind as your team mates run for the rescue. Hurr left 4 dead

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

After playing Left 4 Dead all weekend the only thing I dislike is the unlimited ammo on the pistols. It would have added another level of tension if they limited the ammo and added in ammo sharing and weapon swapping between teammates.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

I always wake the witch. She will only attack the person that disturbed her so the rest of the team can just mow her down while you back away as fast as you can. 7 out of 10 times she doesn't catch me. If you play it on expert its a one hit death from her but on any other difficulty your teammates can just revive you.

Me and my roommate play the game more like an extermination squad rather than people trying to get the gently caress out of there. Some pubbies dubbed me the psycho butler

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Gtab posted:

Just played another round of Versus L4D with TFR goons. It was a blast as always.


Scarecrow411 has some kind of idiot savant gift for shooting me any time I spawn as a Smoker.

Every time I load up server is full

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

oh I do; me and my roommate just got done with a game. I just hate logging on and seeing all my "friends" in a full server.

I just now started playing versus and I am ungodly with a boomer.

The trick to hunters are to try to get someone alone. Wait till they are being over swarmed and then attack. I wish you could take a bit more damage as a zombie; poo poo these humans can take a loving beating and get med kits at least give the hunters 3 shotgun blasts.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

infrared35 posted:

Mine would probably be okay with a little more RAM and a power supply capable of more than 350W.

My problem is I'm a picky bitch and I want a quiet power supply.

I forgot all about asking you to post your specs until you started talking about it again.

I have a 512 stick of generic DDR ram here you can have if you want. I looked for a better AGP video card but yours is better than the few extras I have.

Also what all are you running on the computer that you need more than 350w? That should be enough to run cpu, mobo, vid card (that doesn't need a 6 pin cable plugged in as well), hdd, and dvd-rom.

From what I can see all you really need is another 512 and you should be good to play Left 4 Dead. It is based on the Half Life 2 engine so it doesn't need new age specs. However the amount of zombies it puts on screen might be pushing 512 of ram.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Zylen posted:

Posting this link in here as well as the Left4Dead thread in games. A friend and I came up against a hilarious bug while playing co-op.

http://www.vimeo.com/2512830

Am I the only one that went aw when the friendly zombie couldnt climb the ladder.

I now want a pet zombie to follow me around.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Gtab posted:

Straight up he just attacked zombies for half an hour to stay alive instead of coming to see us.

was this in versus? I thought you guys were talking about AI...thats just sad. Where is the fun in just staying alive as a zombie.

I can't stand when people try to stay alive as a boomer. Throw up once and then suicide run at the group.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Totally TWISTED posted:

Exploding on the survivors when they are already vomited on (and purple/pink) doesn't reset the timer so if you can stay alive to either get in a second vomit or an explode that actually gets them covered again it's pretty much the better option most of the time.

Do you also dislike it when hunter's jump away after being knocked off somebody but not killed?

I guess I should rephrase that and say I hate it when a boomer does not get everyone and tries to hide to recharge and the survivors are able to run ahead leaving the boomer to try and catch up. It is much better to try and suicide the ones you miss and quicker to respawn and get a better position.

Majority of the versus games I have played the survivors really haul rear end and don't give you time to recharge.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Gtab posted:

The vast majority of us play it on PC like God intended sorry

Amen brother

This is a half life 2 mod that got picked up and "worked" by professionals. PC all the way; gently caress I would be going crazy trying to aim so close to teammates without hitting them on the console. This IS a PC game.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Gtab posted:

One day I want to attend a wedding and midway through the ceremony get a call and pretend it's a doctor -- then walk up to the groom in as gay a fashion as possible, slap him in a nancyboy manner, scream, "Have him, you slut, and take his goddamn warts with you!!!!" at the bride, and storm out.


Unfortunately I don't know anyone I dislike enough to do this to.

I would have paid you to do this at my sisters wedding a few months ago. Not because I hate her but because it would be hilarious and catholic weddings are SOOO boring.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Yesterday was a bad day

My dog kicked my desk knocking a cup of water onto my G15 keyboard. The A and space bar no longer work.

I swapped out my mobo and proc for a phenom 4 core. loaded up Left 4 Dead and about 5 min in my 450w PSU couldn't handle the new hardware and died taking the mobo with it.

I am going to try and load it on my laptop to see if it can handle it...it should but the way my luck has been going who knows.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Playing against Pubbies was no fun Sunday. Everyone kept leaving after a few rounds of us dishing out the whoop rear end.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Otto Skorzeny posted:

OK so stalker just stopped working yesterday. No idea why. If I can get it working again before the STEAM EXTRAVAGANZA ends 12/31 i'll buy clear sky too (it's down to $17.50). I hate gsc gameworld almost as much as i love them :pleaseno:

My clear sky has never worked correctly. It gets to the same general area (about 3-4 hours in) and then the save games get corrupted. After restarting 3 times I gave up and started playing other games. I will go back to the Clear Sky in a few months and try again.

On the subject of throwing up; it is physically impossible for me to throw up. All I can do is dry heave and wait for it to come out the other end. Stupid Hiatal hernia surgery.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

what is the consensus on smashing the door open instead of using the scissor lift? Past few times we have done that the other team wont shut up about cheating.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

InfiniteNoodles posted:

If I'm just playing with pubbies I'll go ahead and do it, but otherwise I try to be a good sport and give them the chance to smoker us off the ledge when we use the lift.

If you really want to hear some whining, use the tank to hit them through walls when they hole up with shotguns. Tank hits ignore obstacles, so as long as they're within reach, they get hit.

Edit: I usually play on expert just because advanced is way too easy, and this game is still fun when you lose so why not?

Yeah I learned the tank thing the other night when all 4 of us were killed in the house by the tank outside the house.

Anyone know what decides if you get a tank or not. The other night we played a game where the other team got a tank every chapter and we didnt get a single one until the finale.

I play on advanced most of the time, expert is loving hard. We can get to the finale but we have never made it out of there. We usually turn it to advanced after like 45 min of playing the finale on expert.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Bored As gently caress posted:

How the hell are you guys good enough to play on expert? I'm playing single player on my 360 and even advanced is hard as gently caress.

Although I guess with 3 other live people coordinating, planning, and working together, it would be easier, but still - those extra shots it takes to take down the zombies, the witch, and especially the tank are really frustrating!

This would be the reason I said I would not want to play it on a 360. Aiming with a thumbstick is to slow and hard to get quick precise shots.

But yeah it is much easier with people to coordinate with. And that usually boils down to everyone get in a closet or corner and two guys kneel down and just swing to keep the zombies out while the back two stand there shooting all of them.

Did some research on what brings the tank.

"When the Director chooses to spawn a Tank, a player is randomly chosen to play it. The Tank has a frustration meter that forces it to find the Survivors. If it does not find the Survivors in this time, the player loses control of the Tank and the computer takes over."

Michael Booth of Valve posted:

At the core of Left 4 Dead's gameplay is a set of technologies we refer to as "The Director." Whether you're playing a game with 8 humans filling out the available roles or playing in "single player" mode, The Director is in charge of monitoring the pacing of the game. So, for example, if your team has been bombarded with Infected hordes and bosses, The Director will schedule a break in the action. If your team is chewing through Infected like bubble gum, The Director will send a few Boss Infected your way, and so on. And all of this is done procedurally to insure no play sessions are alike -- there are no triggers, generators, special flags, or other human-placed information in the environment that specify where to place the Infected. As a result, the Survivor team can never predict when or where they will encounter anything.

So it looks like it is based on how well you are doing in both single and multiplayer but it sure doesn't feel that way. I can't find too much more on "the director." But I will keep looking because damnit so far "The Director" is an rear end in a top hat.

The junk collector posted:

The thing that kept getting me on expert is the game would put witches in places you had to go. Like at the base of ladders or once on the docks where the boat pick you up.

See this...rear end in a top hat Director

JEEVES420 fucked around with this message at Dec 31, 2008 around 18:58

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

expert tanks last longer. Anyone else run into a bug where it does not set the difficulty level you selected. We set it to advanced and didn't notice it was actually beginner until the tank died in a few seconds and none of us were scratched.

Best way to stop a tank in multiplayer is 4 auto shotguns. he is dead in under a second.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Bored As gently caress posted:

They take too long to reload. What I wouldn't give for a Saiga 12 in that game.



I dont know how many times I have said that. 20 round drum...


For them taking to long to reload you can still butt strike and load at the same time. Hit R and then butt strike till it says 10 again, if you don't fire the last round you won't have to chamber a new one and can start shooting instantly.

The m16 is nice on some levels where you are taking a lot of long distance shots. Like the finale for dead air.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Get a mouse even a cheap one would be better. Christ I couldnt imagine trying to play a fps with a touch pad.

It is a tad off the way it selects your server. It threw us on a server in Japan like 4 times in a row when all of us were in North America.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

if you see me in game shoot me a message. If I am not playing with a full team of friends I have no problems kicking the weakest link for another friend to take his place. That is unless everyone I am playing with is kicking rear end together. But 7 out of 10 times we get stuck with one guy who is dumber than poo poo and fucks everything up (why do people stay on the roof all by their lonesome).

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Bylzebub posted:

what does it take to join the group? i'm still waiting

Once you send in your application it usually takes 1-2 months of waiting for the ID and password to return to you in the mail.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Steam is being a steaming pile of poo poo today. Cant join any games; me or my roommate

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Yet another reason to get L4D on PC instead of console.

"While pricing was not discussed, the new content is expected to be free for PC owners, continuing in Valve's tradition of providing PC gamers with free post-release support. However, it is uncertain if the Xbox 360 DLC will be free, as Microsoft is reportedly forcing Valve to charge for the upcoming Team Fortress 2 DLC on Xbox 360."

taken from here http://left4deadforums.com/3028-inc...4-dead-dlc.html

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Filmiotic posted:

I think people will just be encouraged to buy the games directly from Steam. And those who don't.. Well I don't think I wanted them on my TFR community anyway >

If its a game you can just add it to your steam profile. Being a Valve game means it is automatically is added to Steam. I haven't purchased any of my games from Steam; I prefer having a physical copy and it takes me less time to drive to the store than to download the game.

Microsoft can charge all they want because console gamers will pay it. A bunch of people on that forum I linked were already saying they have no problem paying for the updates. Not to mention the fact that console games are $60 when they come out, no matter if it is a budget tittle or not. PC games top out at $50 except for a few, hell STALKER was $40 on release day (not a sale) or take SOF where PC it was $30 and console was $60; same with the LOST game.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Gtab posted:

Daskro helped too until the last two rounds.

It was loving great.


the best part was the enemy team had this belligerent pubby gently caress on it who got mad when one of his team (TFR goon Jeeves) was like "man our tank sucked" and Lethal was like, "Yes it did, bitchmouth."

This pubby flipped his poo poo and was like gently caress YOU WE STILL WON!!!!!


Then points tallied and we won by 51


His whole team laughed at him.

I was just stating the obvious

That was a close game the whole way. That pubbie was like having Lennie Small running with you.

Five o'clock Charlie, Dr. Millard Rausch (my roommate), Enigma (my brother), and myself wooped a hole lot of pubbie rear end over several games this weekend. Charlie dubbed it the surprise sex train.

Anyone know a way to prevent the auto switch when one team is kicking rear end. That poo poo is annoying when you have all friends on one team and none on the other. In an all Goon game I don't mind at all.

edit: come play with me now!

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Well that is my old rear end hanging on for dear life. A boomer came along and boomed 3 of us off the edge for the win...hence my gently caress thats gay comment.

On gently caress thats gay my team all made it into the elevator tonight and I just randomly fell through the floor to my death. I was getting bitched like that all night I am not one for rage quiting but god drat was I close.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Anyone know of a Co-op mod? STALKER would be bad rear end with a buddy.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Gtab posted:

Spawn. Amount spawned is determined by the director's stinkyhole rear end gently caress dick gently caress YOU AI whim, so sometimes you splash all four survivors for a grand total of six zombies, and sometimes you barely get one survivor and 30+ zombies show up and wreck poo poo.

FUUUUUUUUCKKKK the director!

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

It is great in campaign but Versus is so unbalanced. Like giving one team a tank on every round and none to the other. Placing witches in places you can't avoid (again for one team and none for the other). How about sending a random swarm right after everyone nearly being killed by the enemy team. Everything I am reading says that the director registers how well a team is doing and adjusts accordingly; yet everything I have seen is contradictory to that.

My favorite one so far was when I was drat near dead with a tank and the rest of the enemy team chasing me down. I am the only one left alive and I am so close to the safe house I start to smile and think I am going to make it. The safe room is just a few feet around this corner, I am there gently caress ye...face to face with a witch. The last thing I said before being torn to shreds was "Seriously?"

Why the gently caress would the director decide that I am not being challenged enough and plop a witch a few feet away from the safe house door.

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JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Make a room and then throw out invites to everyone who is showing online or in game.

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