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DON'T BUY FROM BYB How to spot a BYB (Back Yard Breeder): *I know this guy... *I found in the paper... *All puppies available... *Only lists AKC reg. (This means nothing since a genetically problematic purebreed can get AKC reg.) *LACK OF INFO (BYBs know the less you know the better for them) This was previously a "help me find a corgi puppy" thread. That was over a year ago, and thanks to the advice in this thread we brought home the perfect Cardigan Corgi pup, from a great breeder. Still the thread lives on, as a general corgi picture and advice thread. So if you have a corgi or corgi mix, post pictures here (there can never be too many cute corgi pictures). For those of you looking for general information, I'm adding a FAQ below. FAQ What is a Corgi? Corgis are short legged herding dogs that originated in Wales. There are two breeds of Welsh Corgis, the Cardigan Welsh Corgi and the Pembroke Welsh Corgi. They are similarly short statured, but have differences in size and body shape. The Cardigan has a full bushy tail, while Pembrokes are naturally bob-tailed (or often docked if born with a tail). Cardigans are larger, and longer, with more rounded ears. Pembrokes are somewhat smaller, with more pointed ears. Cardigans come in a wide range of colors: brindle, blue merle, black, red, sable, tri-color. Pembroke colors are: red, sable, tri-color. You can find more information on the breed club websites: Cardigan Welsh Corgi Club or Pembroke Welsh Corgi Club. What about the origins of these two breeds? The Cardigan Welsh Corgi Club site says this: quote:Cardigan and Pembroke Welsh Corgis are of different origins. Pembroke Corgis come from the same lines as Terriers, Spitz and Schipperkes and became popular due to the Queen's influence. Cardigans are an older, rarer breed, coming from the same heritage as the Tekdal dogs, such as the Dachshund. They remained in the hands of the old farmers and breeders, who continued to breed them selectively for the purpose of herding and family companions. The Cardigan temperament is more like a Collie or a well-bred German Shepherd Dog. Temperament and trainability are of the utmost importance. The Pembroke Welsh Corgi Club site has this information (a lot more information at this link) quote:The Pembroke Corgi is a breed of the Spitz group - that Nordic group of dogs which is so easily recognized by a sharp-pointed muzzle and foxy face, erect and pointed ears, and a high set and gaily carried tail. Near relatives include the Swedish Vallhund (Vastergotland Spitz), the Norwegian Buhund, the old type Pomeranian and the Schipperke. Iris Combe, in her recent book on the origins of herding breeds also feels that the Corgi has a strong relationship to the Norwegian Lundehund - a puffin hunting dog of Norway. It should also be noted that the breeds were not recognized as separate until 1934, and that there was interbreeding before that time, which may account for some similarity. (see more information on wikipedia). What are their personalities like? Do they get along with other animals? Children? This will be subjective and vary dog by dog. Both breeds were developed as all purpose farm dogs, whose duties included herding, guarding, killing rodents, family companionship, and even hunting in some cases. They are adaptable dogs who like to have a job to do. While Cardigans have a reputation for being slightly more reserved than Pembrokes, both breeds will get into trouble if bored. As an inquisitive herding dog, it is best to keep your Corgi mentally stimulated with activities of your choosing, rather than let them invent activities of thier own. The Pembroke Welsh Corgi Club has this to say about getting along with other pets and children (from my experience, this seems aplicable to Cardigans as well). quote:Many breeders have cats and other pets who have close relationships with their dogs, and others make an effort to introduce their puppies to other species during their early socialization. Common sense is needed in introducing the puppy to a small cage pet so that no one gets nipped, and Pup understands that the ferret or bunny is a pet and not something to be "dispatched" (remember that Pembrokes are farm dogs, and ratting is one of the jobs!) Pembrokes living with other dogs, especially larger breeds, generally become the "boss" and herd the others around (sometimes to their annoyance). They are also happy to herd up errant children, especially if they're running, and the parents must be consistent in correcting this behavior from the beginning to prevent a later problem with "nipping heels." It may be cute in a baby puppy, but a pinch on the heel or calf from a larger and still enthusiastic herder hurts! Ask the breeder for helpful hints. Corgis are loyal dogs that need an outlet for their working instincts. They may be on the small side, but they are not toy dogs who are content with just being a companion. Both types of corgis have reputations for acting like "big dogs in small bodies". Be prepared to do training, provide mentally stimulating activities, perhaps even dog sports such as agility, rally or tracking. Are Corgis good appartment dogs? No. They have a tendency to bark when anything is "out of place", according to them. This could be your neighbor walking around, or an unfamiliar animal or person nearby, or a strange sound, or something about the TV or music bothers them. Remember, their original purpose included guarding the family and farm, so they consider it their duty to alert you if anything is amiss. Personal annecdote: My husband was playing a new video game, and this game is an RPG, so there's a fair amount of inventory management and collecting/buying/selling crap. For some reason, our corgi hates the little "ding" sound the game makes when he sells something to a vendor, and of course he has to do this repeatedly during the game. So she'll work herself into a frenzy barking and growling at the Xbox/TV when he does this. It's the funniest loving thing, but it wouldn't be funny if were in an appartment and had neighbors to worry about. What about shedding? Both Cardigans and Pembrokes can shed considerably, especially when they drop their seasonal undercoat. This is what the Pembroke Welsh Corgi Club has to say: quote:Oh, yes, they shed! A spayed or neutered Corgi will generally shed their undercoat (the soft, lighter hair beneath their coarse outer coat) in prodigious amounts in the spring or summer and more than the usual frequent combing and brushing is then called for. A good bath, followed by some serious combing, will remove the "tufts," with a second bath and grooming in the next week or two to get out the remainder. If you want to put the soft "fur" out for the birds to build their nests with, you can provide "cashmere wallpaper" for every bird nest in your neighborhood! A philosophical thought: dogs either shed or need expensive haircuts--vacuum cleaner bags are cheaper than the local groomer!! Are Corgis healthy breeds? Are they prone to particular health problems? From Wikipedia: quote:Both the Cardigan and Pembroke Welsh Corgi are among the healthiest and longest-lived dogs in the Herding Group. The Cardigan tends to be a little hardier and has fewer documented hereditary health problems; among them are canine hip dysplasia, canine degenerative myelopathy and progressive retinal atrophy. Pembroke Welsh Corgis are susceptible to intervertebral disc disease, canine hip dysplasia, progressive retinal atrophy and epilepsy. Cardigan Welsh Corgis have a typical life expectancy between 12 and 14 years, and Pembroke Welsh Corgis typically live between 12 and 15 years. Note that responsible breeders will have their breeding animals tested for hereditary conditions. This includes OFA hip certification and genetic tests for other conditions (examples: DM and PRA). Where should I get a Corgi? Rescues: Do a web search for a local corgi rescue or purebred dog rescue. Rescues may or may not have corgis available, but they may be able to add you to a waiting list. Don't be affraid to get an adult corgi. Puppies (of any breed) can be frustrating, and an older dog might just be your perfect mellow companion. Also, be prepared to answer the rescue's questions and/or arrange for a home visit. Shelters: Check Petfinder and your local shelters. They might just have a corgi or corgi mix. Responsible Breeders: When looking for a breeder, it is best to start with the directories on the breed club websites: Pembrokes and Cardigans. You might also consider visiting a local dog show and talking to the people who are showing corgis, and meeting their dogs. This is a good way to become acquainted with the breeds and make connections in terms of finding a breeder. But I saw cute corgi puppies for sale from [pet store/newspaper/flyer/craigslist/affordable pups website]. How can I tell if they're a responsible breeder? No responsible breeder would advertise in this manner. First rule of thumb is to be wary of advertisements and avoid pet stores. A puppy from a responsible breeder will never wind up in a pet store, nor listed in a classified add. Responsible breeders tend to have very few litters and those litters tend to have carefully screened waiting lists. Here are the ASPCA guidelines for breeders, which I think are generally pretty good. Pay particular attention to the bolded, which are often the things that set the responsible breeders appart from the backyard breeders (BYBs). quote:* Never sells puppies to a dealer or pet shop. Additionally, I would add that the breeder should only be breeding titled or working dogs that have proven their ability in conformation and/or work. Corgis can excel at a lot of different pursuits: herding, agility, tracking, rally, therapy, and of course conformation. If a breeder is breeding dogs that haven't "proven themselves" at anything, then they probably shouldn't be breeding dogs. Where can I get more puppy advice? First, check the New Puppy FAQ for general puppy issues. Feel free to post additional questions either in that thread or right here. Where should I post pictures of my awesome corgi or corgi mix? Right here in this thread. We demand more corgi pictures! Video of Josie going crazy, then stopping for the mere mention of food. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTjk_2ex8Z8 Video of laser pointer cat hazard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-_QaMDj7ak inkblottime fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Jun 1, 2011 |
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My wife believes there is a corgi conspiracy. You get the first corgi then it's over. You are forever compelled to get yet another! Your dogs are very cute, especially the puppy pics! I actually looked up Paul Chen and C-Myste so we are on the same page. And 500-600 sounds very reasonable to me. I'm unsure whether we are ready to get a puppy right at this moment. We need to do some work on the yard and puppy proof some of the house first so we'll miss the new litter (plus I heard you need to reserve early). Either way, I think I'll encourage the wife to send C-Myste's owner an email.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2008 06:57 |
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Miss Indy posted:londerwost!!! Go to Magnuson or Marymoor dog parks one of these weekends and you should see a bunch of both Cardis and Pems! Also londerwost, here is the corgi group that meets regularly in our area. Check them out! We'll have to check it out! Although, I'm always a little awkward in these gathering situations when i don't know anyone. I'd really like to visit a breeder so i think we'll send out some emails just letting them know we are interested. Thanks for all the help (yet again!) and the great pictures of Zeke!
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2008 01:33 |
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So C-myst has two females that are available right now because of people backing out. We weren't really planning on getting the puppy so soon but we're sorely tempted. She said her typical price is $800 but it includes all the health testing (not sure about genetic) and microchip, etc etc. Not sure if I'll get a lower price even though we'll get her fixed. i think it's these two. Click here for the full 687x599 image. Click here for the full 657x625 image. It's quite a drive, I think about 6-8 hour drive one way but I'm getting excited. Hope the snow melts soon! EDIT: What are some things we can do to puppy proof the house? I'm concerned about wires and plugs, mostly. Small items and plants are higher up and out of the way. inkblottime fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Dec 25, 2008 |
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Click here for the full 855x642 image. We just got home from the 8-10 hour drive. I'm sick and tired but I have a puppy! I'll take better pictures when I'm feeling better.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2009 04:11 |
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2009 22:36 |
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Cardi's have HUGE ears. Josie's sister Greta is having the same issues. Their smallest sister, Hope, is fine though because she was the runt and has ears more like a Pem. 10 minutes after tape came off. Click here for the full 490x653 image. 30 minutes after tape came off. Click here for the full 490x653 image. Click here for the full 653x490 image. Click here for the full 653x490 image. !!!!YOUNG BITCH SPREAD EAGLE NUDE SHOWS EVERYTHING!!!! !!!!CLICK BELOW!!!! Click here for the full 490x653 image. EDIT: Attention Lioness I tried contacting you but private messages are not working for me. Would it be possible to change the title of this thread to something like: "The Corgi Megathread: Pems and Cardis Abound!" Since it's already going in that direction? Thanks! inkblottime fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Feb 12, 2009 |
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She knows all the words for food. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTjk_2ex8Z8
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2009 00:16 |
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Corgi + laser = propeller tail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQhubrtlW9E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLcbUbFyWP8 Corgi encounters a hazard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-_QaMDj7ak
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2009 07:26 |
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letsgoflyers81 posted:
From what I have learned, Cardigans have larger ears than Pembrokes. And this litter has unusually large ears for Cardigans. So the ears are having some problems standing up, even with extra calcium in her diet. Even her breeder is having issues with one of her litter mates. In the past we would tape her ears over the weekend, which is usually how long the tape lasts before she figures out how to get it off. We're gonna try to keep tape on her for this whole next week and see if that helps.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2009 08:04 |
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2009 20:49 |
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Click here for the full 653x490 image. Click here for the full 653x490 image. Click here for the full 653x490 image. Corgi crock attacks!! Click here for the full 653x490 image. AIR CORGI! Click here for the full 490x653 image. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNr9r1ZkPJw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TELkfel_58
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2009 23:20 |
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Miss Indy posted:Very cute coat, though she probably doesn't need it. Corgi coats are very thick! Even when it was in the teens and 20s a winter or two back, my dogs were a-ok for hour+ long trips in the snow. Though I guess puppy coats don't have that dense undercoat that the adults have. As much as I like dressing my dogs up in retarded sweaters, they seem to get too hot living here in the Seattle area. Zeke a little less so, as his undercoat and fat layer isn't nearly as thick as Bailey's. For myself, I had a hat, my snowboard jacket, and good boots but the legs of my pants were soaked through it was raining so heavy. She seemed more comfortable after I got her the coat from a local store. Then we had the heavy, heavy snow today. If I didn't have the coat on her I would have had to towel her off every time I took her out. With the coat, I just have to dry her feet. On a different tangent, she likes buffalo bones and didn't get the runs from them.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2009 06:04 |
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Did some spring boarding. See what I did there? Brought the pup with me.
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2009 04:43 |
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Josie's an easy drunk girl.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2009 02:43 |
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This is my best friend.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2009 19:29 |
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Josie loves her antler but has been disinterested since getting fixed. We actually got her a buffalo bone that's big enough for her to chew around the cone. She still get's bored with it and starts crying. This has helped some because she's more comfortable. Plus we can turn it back from her face so it's easier for her to eat and drink.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2009 02:21 |
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infestedtwinkie posted:I've been starting to look at Corgi breeders on the west coast. I have been looking at breeders from the following list here. Are there any that you guys suggest in the California and Oregon area? Please, oh please don't rule out Cardigans! I know I'm out numbered in this thread but they are freaken cool dogs too!
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2009 01:55 |
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infestedtwinkie posted:That dog looks like a mix between a cardigan and an ACD for sure. Look at the markings above the eye, they scream ACD (or Collie). I think he's a good looking dog! He'd be great for holloween parties with a little pirate hat and stuffed parrot. :dance Just mention offhandedly to your girlfriend that Cardies are typically laid back in comparison to Pems.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2009 04:58 |
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Our male cats go after anachro's underwear and Josie chooses to go after anything having to do with my feet (shoes, socks, etc). Pets are so weird.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2009 19:58 |
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Triple decker pets! This is a kinda crappy picture with it bluring and the contrast but drat it's cute. The weird thing about the socks is that Josie doesn't bother with anachro's. She only grabs mine. inkblottime fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Jun 28, 2009 |
# ¿ Jun 28, 2009 03:53 |
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Josie has a thing for zippers since she was a little puppy. Even at 8 months, she decides that zippers need to be removed from the fabric. She ruined one of her best pillows just the other day after she'd been sleeping on it for months. I guess she was like "o HEY!" and went to town. I gotta figure out how to break her of that because I like my jackets and zip hoodies.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2009 06:01 |
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Manga tag? It's around 100 degrees in Seattle right now and poor Josie is melting. It's a good thing we got hard floors which are way cooler than the old berber carpet we used to have. Time to play ice cube fetch!
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2009 00:39 |
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Ema Nymton posted:
Manga =/= Anime
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2009 03:00 |
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Korenwolf posted:yeah he really really likes snow... SUPER ACTION FUN SNOW CORGI!
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2009 05:48 |
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The Dave posted:Hey guys, let me preface this by saying I am straight up not ready for a dog yet, but I'm doing my research because it's come up and I'm curious. I would start with these sites: Pembroke Welsh Corgis of America Cardigan Welsh Corgis of America Although it's not a guarantee, I think you find more responsible breeders on these lists. The drawback is that you may have to wait a while and you might have to be on a waiting list. Also you may not be able to pick what color you want since most responsible breeders will pair you with the right personality, not color.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2009 04:06 |
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elf pr0n posted:Shaved corgis are the best corgis that nudie poo poo.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2009 20:07 |
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Bewildrbeast posted:So I'm not sure if my dog is part Corgi or not and I figured you guys may have an idea- I googled "corgi fluffy" and this was the first picture. Looks a lot like yours
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2010 01:07 |
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OP's been updated. Please let me know if things need fixing or if people want to add something. There's some good advice in this thread that could be compiled. Also, don't buy BYB. Just don't.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2010 05:50 |
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Corn Burst posted:I know a man who has several Pembroke Welsh Corgi puppies that would add a special something to any home. AKC Reg. 9 wks, tails, dew claws done. Vac, dewormed. Farm family raised. Health Guarantee. Males and females. Red/White and Tri's available. $350 [YOU LEFT A NUMBER WTF] I don't really know what to say. This reads like a BYB. Do I really need a "don't peddle your BYB's in this thread" in the OP? inkblottime fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Feb 20, 2010 |
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paddiep posted:...anyways my point being, can a corgi's coat really get that bad if they don't get brushed out? I assume being on a bad diet, having shitheads for owners, etc had a part to play too.. We don't keep up with brushing as much as we should but people always comment on how shinny and nice her coat looks. I want to say that it may have to do with diet, although brushing should be done anyway. I would be more concerned about the nails. That can cause all sorts a problems, from in grown nails to bad backs from walking weird. Ringo Star Get posted:Milhouse has been sick all morning and I think he heard that we were taking him to the vet later today because hes been hard to find. I looked under the bed, his favorite corner, in the kitchen everywhere. Then I nearly trip over this in the living room: I laughed so hard!
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2010 17:17 |
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Sleepy pup after day at doggy day care.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2010 18:52 |
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Corgi day. Corgi butts.
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# ¿ May 6, 2010 03:49 |
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lu lu lu posted:Cutest rape-face ever!
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# ¿ May 20, 2010 05:31 |
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She's really afraid of the sound the cork makes when it pops. But like a corgi, she wants to figure out what it is.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2011 03:42 |
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Dancingthroughlife posted:Sometime in the next year we plan to get a dog. We're doubtful we'll be able to afford a breeder, so we'll be checking petfinder periodically. Can someone explain why you want a corgi's ears to stand up? I get that that's the way they're supposed to be, but why? They will not flop like a lab. They will stand part way up and flop part way. Sure it might be cute at a glance but that's permanent.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2011 04:12 |
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ButWhatIf posted:Pics from the corgi meetup! Neige had a really good time playing with all the other dogs. Someone made the news:
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2012 06:47 |
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ButWhatIf posted:Today is Neige's 7 monthiversary! Happy Neigeday to everyone! I should really find out about these meet ups. I'm sure Josie would be stoked to run around with dogs her size.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2012 06:21 |
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Plus_Infinity posted:This is the only costume I thought Orbit would tolerate. Sorry we haven't posted in a while (previously londerwost and anachrodragon)! But I had to jump in and say I literally squealed when I saw this picture (which is not something a 30 something man should do). Looks almost like Josie! If you have more pictures, I would love to see them. What a cutie!
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2012 06:57 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 17:32 |
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Break Fast posted:Thanks guys. I really appreciate it. Poor little guy. I'm sure he's very happy to be home with you. Took this picture of Josie and the pussycats the other day. The colder the weather gets, the closer they get:
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2012 18:11 |