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spog posted:PROTIP for you DT: always steal stuff the day before you quit, not after. PRO TIP - You should be
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IT Guy posted:PRO TIP - You should be I love my bosses policy on this. . . See due to university rules, if it costs less than $5000 they don't put it into inventory. We got a shipment of 24" 1080p displays a few months back, and not a soul wanted an upgrade, so here I am with 40 nice fresh still in the box 24" displays in my storage room. Quote my boss: "You need multiple displays at home to do more effecient work don't you? Well just grab two, and remember to bring them back when you don't need them anymore"
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| # ? May 13, 2010 12:39 |
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Farking Bastage posted:This is a good morning Until it turns out the system is down for everyone and that's why it seems like there's no work.
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enotnert posted:Quote my boss: Translation: " Remember those 52" 1080P LCD boardroom monitors that used to be in here? Here grab one of these to take the attention away from me." ^^ Yeah I'm waiting on that.
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lol on the LCD's. I wish we had extra monitors around here. Hell, we don't even have spare USB keyboards, or computers, or laptops.  It's hell trying to get any cash out of accounting. "We don't have any money" F*** you, yes you do!Fake Edit: Oh, and I got my AD computers from 270 down to 140. Thanks for that tip you all!
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| # ? May 13, 2010 12:51 |
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Farking Bastage posted:This is a good morning Lord Commissar posted:Until it turns out the system is down for everyone and that's why it seems like there's no work. brc64 fucked around with this message at May 13, 2010 around 19:34 |
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What's funny about that is our spam appliance went tits up yesterday. A VP, who is known for being OCD, ADD, and just loving nuts in general, put a 500 MB attachment through the mail system, and when it didn't instantly pop into his sent items, he sent it 4 more times. 2 GB stuck in the out queue on that fucker. The usual attachment limit on exchange for us is 50, except for certain people. Let's just say that list just got a little smaller. Farking Bastage fucked around with this message at May 13, 2010 around 13:22 |
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Farking Bastage posted:Translation: " Remember those 52" 1080P LCD boardroom monitors that used to be in here? Here grab one of these to take the attention away from me." Honestly, my boss don't roll like that. She's pretty much untouchable, and is awesome about it. I still have a 24" sun CRT display she "loaned" me back when I was an undergrad. I don't use the powerhungry beast anymore, but still have it and have moved it to 3-4 different living arrangements. Fucker is heavier than my couch. We also have a bunch of old projectors that are supposed to be "loaners" from back in the day where hardly anywhere had projectors, or computers, and everyone and their grandmom didn't carry a laptop, so some weekends I take one home and have the 80" 720p wall to watch poo poo on.
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| # ? May 13, 2010 13:27 |
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brc64 posted:Regarding DT and the BSA Torpedo (sounds like a children's book), I would say that if the BSA hasn't come by the time you can no longer take it, go ahead and fill in HR/CEO/COO/whoever on the details and any proof you might have when you quit. That way, if he does try to pin in on you with you gone, they'll know he's full of poo poo. It's actually their responsibility once they have that data to head off a substantial financial and legal threat to the company -- due diligence, meaning that they will go to the boss within the hour with the information and he will scramble to cover his rear end, possibly managing it. Don't hand off information that they don't have any call to know. There is no amount of information that you can give a nontechnical user that will allow them to respond confidently to a natural liar who is familiar with any amount of jargon.
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Also, don't forget that Dick is the one on file as reporting the piracy. They won't directly address it during an audit, or so they say, but the information is there to prevent the buck from being passed to him.
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my helpdesk posted:Missing a tower computer from their dept. Hard boot did not repair. Wait, what?
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Midelne posted:It's actually their responsibility once they have that data to head off a substantial financial and legal threat to the company -- due diligence, meaning that they will go to the boss within the hour with the information and he will scramble to cover his rear end, possibly managing it. Don't hand off information that they don't have any call to know. DT I think this guy either has a lot of dirt, or they just do not want the hassle of actually following through with anything. I am unsure about him being written up, normally in this situation they would not tell you if that is the case and your boss would probably lie about that fact. Depending on how big your company is also depends on how easy they get rid of cancer like your manager, it is likely before firing him they would simply move him to another role within the company this is generally the norm in difficult situations. Just make sure you are doing what you are doing (documenting everything) and you should be fine. I have no idea when it comes to law and unemployment in the US that is for someone else but going what people are saying here it is fine to burn your bridges however get something lined up before you jump, in the current climate it could be worth waiting it out/taking up alcohol or valium and just working to contract i.e. no extra, no less. lovely this has happened to you though, but I think if they have said something or written him up it is pretty strange they would confirm that to you. T Minus 1-Week and a Month till I start dealing with tickets again!
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potato of destiny posted:Wait, what? 
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| # ? May 13, 2010 16:38 |
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Starbucks posted:I am unsure about him being written up, normally in this situation they would not tell you if that is the case and your boss would probably lie about that fact. Typically HR tells you nothing but in this case I think the HR Director is annoyed and that's why he shared that information with me. I keep in the back of my mind the possibility that he is as full of crap as my boss. This morning I left a copy of my performance review for the HR Director along with a statement about how this is proof that once again my boss is comfortable telling blatant lies to senior management, in this case his insistence that he documented on my review how I "minimized my programs" when he came into my office and how it concerned him. I said that I will continue to document his misdeeds because his unethical and unprofessional behavior exposes the company to liability, and now that I am his official scapegoat I know he will blame me for his faults and I have to protect myself. I also said that I took a real risk coming forward to expose his misbehavior and it's disappointing to see that he will continue to profit from his strategy of lying and shifting blame. I did it out of my sense of right and wrong and dedication to the company. Ah well. Things would be so much easier if I had no principles. Little good they've done me. I continue to look for a job like I have been for ages now. I really don't know what's going to happen with me, if I'm going to flame-out, or keep plodding along. I'm so disgusted with how he got away with it that it's difficult for me to bear.
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Dick Trauma posted:Typically HR tells you nothing but in this case I think the HR Director is annoyed and that's why he shared that information with me. I keep in the back of my mind the possibility that he is as full of crap as my boss. With the theft of pay that he is doing, I was sure he was going to get fired. I was like you are now and am now at a better job but the only way I got through the day was not giving a poo poo. You seriously have to stop giving a poo poo and treat your job as some place you go to for 8 hours then come home. I would have flamed out and quit had I not "shut down" during work. Do the minimum to get through the day, keep your job, find a new one, and quit when you can. Don't press the issue. If your boss can get away with theft of pay, there's nothing he can't get away with. Just shut down and endure.
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Dammit! I was pulling for you DT. At least you have people backing you up and letting you know that you're on the side of right on this, even if we're only imaginary IT people. I think we should start a "SysAdmin Sympathy Fund" for you or something. Hopefully, the next week will find something changed. I hope.  Content: I'm currently out on site, trying to fix issues with the xerox printers. Ever since we installed 2 switches to expand the system, they've been either slow to print, or giving Error: syntaxerror and a blank sheet of paper for every job. I think it's the switches, instead of them being configured as 3 parts of the same network, someone screwed up and they got programmed as 3 different networks. So I had to spend 30 minutes writing up a long email with a background of what's going on, why I'm requesting the replacements, and giving three plans of action to my bosses on what we should do. First way would be to simply replace the switches, but our network guy only has two left, so he wants us to send him one in a twisted sort of "we'll trade our hostages for your hostages" situation, which would leave 20 users without network connection at least till next Wednesday. The second solution is to have one of the local guys who knows how to open the Cisco console try and reprogram it, while the network guy in Austin gives him the commands remotely. Third option of course is to leave it alone, and let the issues continue. Oh, and no one knew about any of this, even though emails were sent out end of last month explaining this situation, and how we needed to fix it quick. gently caress, I'm just a repair guy, why do I need to act like a manager to fix this poo poo? I have never regretted not getting Cisco certified when I had the chance as much as I do now.
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Dick Trauma posted:I didn't mean I'd had this boss experience multiple times. I meant that I usually have to choose between staying at a job that is useless/unpleasant/a dead end or quitting and being unemployed. I can see how that statement could be misinterpreted. I'm just down today over this so it came out extra negative. Here is what I would suggest currently: A: call a lawyer. Call one of those of the kind that's familiar with employment law. The anti-harassment, etc kind. If you know a family member who has a lawyer to reference, even better as that means you can talk to them for advice likely for free. tell them your situation, get an over the phone consultation on what you should watch for on your way out, what can and cannot be done legally, etc, to ensure that you have all bases covered. I'd be sure to mention the HR situation and the BSA part as "stealing from microsoft", so that it is understood. If you don't know any lawyers, I might suggest checking here - http://www.nela.org/NELA/ or google employment lawyers (and your state/town) B: specifically, *After that*, i'd be sending that poo poo up to COO-level yourself. That's a "I tried to go through HR, and HR doesn't have the balls to do it". I'd be calm, but explicit in your intent. I wouldn't even put this company down on your first few referrals out the door. I bet even if you in the smartest way possible brownnose your way out, they're still going to tell you to go jump off the long end of a short stick for a while intentionally.
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Why would anyone recommend informing senior staff of the incoming BSA audit? What good could that possibly accomplish? The shithead senior management haven't done right by him. They haven't fired that incompetent idiot or backed him up. And I'm sure they'd be just overjoyed to learn that he deliberately cost them a shitload of money. Of course, they'll suspect him anyway, given the noise he's been making.
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I have never seen anyone Director-level or above ever get fired even if they are completely incompetent. And it's because those people usually get there though having connections to even higher people on the chain and ahve some sort of protection. I was pulling for DT but knew in the back of my mind that nothing would come of it. Having C-level friends does wonders for job security and advancement. No one will gently caress with him as long as he's got one in his pocket.
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guppy posted:Why would anyone recommend informing senior staff of the incoming BSA audit? What good could that possibly accomplish? on second thought, good point. Except that, you know, I was talking about telling the layer, not the staff. I absolutely agree about the staff.
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notwithoutmyanus posted:on second thought, good point. Except that, you know, I was talking about telling the layer, not the staff. I absolutely agree about the staff. Yeah, I'm an idiot and didn't think that through. Ignore me.
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HatfulOfHollow posted:I have never seen anyone Director-level or above ever get fired even if they are completely incompetent. And it's because those people usually get there though having connections to even higher people on the chain and ahve some sort of protection. I was pulling for DT but knew in the back of my mind that nothing would come of it. Having C-level friends does wonders for job security and advancement. No one will gently caress with him as long as he's got one in his pocket. It was a few pages back, but my IT Director (and thus, my boss) got fired about 4 weeks ago, now. Admittedly I have no idea why.
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A few companies ago I had 2 IT directors get fired within a 1 yr span. Both were useless of course and just political. If you asked them to so much as fix a paper jam they wouldn't have known how.
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If you are good at your job, you stay right where you are. If you are incompetent or an idiot or have 0 people skills you get promoted to a manager. I love the corporate world.
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Being the acquired company in a merger type-thing is nothing but a pain in my rear end. We're in Texas, they're in California. They have an IT guy, and we have me. They're a Windows shop, we're definitely not for the time being. Every time there's something to do here that California finds out about, the VP of Ops and the IT guy out there start sending out meeting invitations to tell us how we're going to do things. I had to block out an hour and a half to explain why we install Office 2003, Acrobat Reader, and an OpenVPN client. We still install 2k3 and don't bother with Acrobat Standard because to not do so would cost money. From an organization standpoint, they don't have any say over how we buy things(or not), so it just seems like pointless land grabbing. Why cant we have a meeting about integrating systems in a sane way that doesn't involve them telling us to "go buy X."? They have a list full of solutions looking for problems and no one above me is willing to suggest otherwise. I hate hate hate mergers.
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Well, seems a bright light was lit in our little corner of the basement this evening. Replaced the Firewall with new Forefront TMG, Installed the Barracuda Web Filter AND got RPC/HTTP working. My boss said "YaY More ammo to get us all raises"
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Spermy Smurf posted:If you are good at your job, you stay right where you are. If you are incompetent or an idiot or have 0 people skills you get promoted to a manager and your pay doubles. FTFY.
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Dick, I don't know how it works in your neck of the woods (I'm in Canada) but from what I understand you won't get UI if you quit without cause. How is working in a hostile environment with a superior that is activly trying to undermine you and Executives and HR who know yet do nothing not just cause? On a similar note when has anyone in the corporate world ever been fired for incompetence? We have people here who brought down entire branches that are still here. I'm sitting across from a guy who calls in sick every 3rd Friday and he's still here. We are so afraid of litigation that no one ever gets fired (we just get re-orged and all the good people get fed up and leave) My company prides itself on it's diversity. I was recently clued in that "diversity" includes stupid people and people who are terrible at their jobs. Dick, get out and enjoy your summer.
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Kirkaholic posted:On a similar note when has anyone in the corporate world ever been fired for incompetence? Generally speaking, and this may be the case in DTs work, human resources in largish companies can get real gun shy about firing people due to how easy it easy to levy a labor lawsuit these days. For anecdotal instance: we had a helpdesk tech last year who was turning in mileage that he did not do. He finally turned in a mileage request that was large enough for the bean counters to take notice. After a bit of investigation we found out he had been turning in mileage for a couple months on tickets that other techs had done. We confronted him about it and he denied the entire thing, claiming it was him that did the tickets, even though the ticketing system said otherwise. When it was all said and done the HR manager and CFO both decided that since the amount he had stolen in bogus mileage was actually less than what it would cost to put a labor lawyer on retainer even for a couple hours that it wasnt worth pursuing and the proper course of action was to just watch him closely from now on. He continued to work here for another 8 months before he found a better job and moved on. I guess the point is that all these people who are saying the only way to get by is to just not care are correct. Cause companies can and do make bad HR decisions on a daily basis.
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Spermy Smurf posted:If you are good at your job, you stay right where you are. If you are incompetent or an idiot or have 0 people skills you get promoted to a manager. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
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Sonic Dude posted:The advantage is that the employee who stays where he is has the opportunity to leave and be more successful. The now-manager who was promoted beyond the limit of his ability is stuck forever because any other company will require proof that he's not an idiot before hiring him. By that metric the same proof is required of everyone at every level, and the idea that they'll never move up would require that the people interviewing them also not be idiots. The Peter Principle only works in a very narrowly-defined and closed system.
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Sonic Dude posted:The advantage is that the employee who stays where he is has the opportunity to leave and be more successful. The now-manager who was promoted beyond the limit of his ability is stuck forever because any other company will require proof that he's not an idiot before hiring him. I really don't think that matters when you're making $100K+ a year
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Those funny little screws that come with projector mounting kits. The ones that look like a big hex nut with a pin sticking up through the middle were designed by Satan himself.
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I work in a school, an ed tech runs the computer lab, she called me down to fix a printer thing, and I had found she had taken the MOTHERBOARD entirely out of a computer so she could go in the hall and SHAKE IT. Why in the world she did this or where the idea came from I don't even have any concept. I'm furious and I don't even know how to handle this. I guess: never ever buy computers with slide out motherboards? (she will never get in trouble for this, no one will ever get in trouble for anything)
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Farking Bastage posted:Those funny little screws that come with projector mounting kits. The ones that look like a big hex nut with a pin sticking up through the middle were designed by Satan himself. This is why I have a collection of little individual hex wrenches just for those types of screws. When you install enough of them you tend to collect the security wrenches just for that one random situation where you'll need one. Of course, you can buy security hex key sets, but they tend not to be cheap like the regular ones.
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n0tqu1tesane posted:Of course, you can buy security hex key sets, but they tend not to be cheap like the regular ones.
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so I got a direct call yesterday, just feel like posting about it now. See we run this "server" that runs this horribly written test with php, a load of open source php utilities, and mysql that has no actual value. The test just basically tells kids how they "might perform" in a certain class. Well the people who wrote all the php know dick poo poo about php, didn't write any debugging code into php that would chunk an error into a log if a script started borking after an edit, and oh did I mention there is no dev server or even dev setup under another directory? Thats right folks, they do all the work on this fucker while it's live, and while people are in the middle of taking these tests. I don't normally muck around in this server, don't care about it, and my boss did 99% of the configuration, I know how to reboot it, and execute specific scripts that must not be executed during the boot routine in order to get the fucker back up and running, that is normally my interaction. Well. . . the call "Hi, enotnert, yeah the server isn't working right, it was having issues yesterday and your boss was in it, and she changed a lot of permissions, and it was working last night, but I've been in here working on it, and now it's not working and I can't get ahold of her" I think off the bat "permissions issues" so I get in, muck around, figure out where the hell they keep all the poo poo, start digging, and while one side is working, the other is not (two tests, identical setups for different classes) and the permissions are all identical except for in the one that's working the execute bit is off on some of the scripts that it's on in the non working one. I change it to match, no dice. 2 hours of debugging later, and being thankful to hell that all these scripts use an ssl layer so I actually could find a log, it ends up because on line 400 of this jumbled together 80,000 lines of script the big man decided to use "non valid" html in the middle of a php chunk. . . ie, <img src="this-is-not-a-variable.jpg" \> loving quotes, goddamn loving quotes where quotes should not be. Goddamn, if he had just told me he was modifying the scripts, and not mucking around in permissions, it could have saved me 2 hours of my day.
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A little story from my past to maybe make Dick Trauma happier  I used to work for a company in 2004 where we had a pretty awesome CIO. He was a bit out-of-date, having gotten most of his technical experience in NT4, but you could talk to him in technical terms and he would understand the gist of it. He always kept himself on top of the organizational and political issues, making sure important projects kept their momentum, yelled at vendors when necessary, and consoled the 75 year old CEOs assistant when she had a meltdown over her typewriter. Anyway, he was probably a bit too invested in the whole thing because after four years on the job he had a burnout, was written sick for two months and after that decided to take a year off to go hiking in central Asia. The company started looking for a replacement CIO and from the start we were all extremely suspicious as our team - including my boss - was being kept completely in the dark about the procedure. Some time later they announced they had found someone. The current CIO starts planning the handover procedures and the new guy already gets a running start by not showing up to 3/4ths of the training. When pressured on his non-shows by his predecessor he responds with "Oh I don't have any responsibilities yet why do I need to be here!" Other highlights from his early months are: - On day three of his employment he is bragging to the entire IT team how he used to cheat in college by working for his professor under the table and in exchange getting great grades without even completing exercises - When we go out for lunch one day, he doesn't have any money with him and borrows from my boss. After several reminders about paying this back he flips out to my boss and tells him not to make such a loving scene about $20. My boss never sees that money again and the new guy is never again invited to lunch with us. As would be expected, at the end of the two month handover period he barely has learned anything. The old CIO is taking a look at his list of "to be done" material with half the important stuff missing, sees his vacation fly away and a heart attack coming, and on the last days just wildly ticks every box on the sheet, signs it, leaves it on his desk and fucks off to India. As expected when the full weight of the responsibility crashes onto him the next week, the guy utterly drowns. Even the things I know he should be able to do because I sat in in the handovers he has no bloody clue about. (taking a break here because I need to do some work now will pick this up later today)
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Farking Bastage posted:Those funny little screws that come with projector mounting kits. The ones that look like a big hex nut with a pin sticking up through the middle were designed by Satan himself. Secure torx. Get something like this. (or just google for security bits) Edit: I have this. Crowley fucked around with this message at May 14, 2010 around 15:01 |
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Crowley posted:Secure torx. Get this. There's also secure hex, which in my experience is a whole lot more common when it comes to projector mounting kits. The kit posted earlier in the thread has both sets of bits in it.
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