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MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.


As a former phone-slinger, we have NO idea if you are telling the truth when you say "Yes I've reset this already." I can't count the number of times where someone has told me they've reset something and haven't, and it's made what should have been a 5 minute call into a 25 minute call.

If you have a tech that's firing on a few brain cells, they should be able to work it out pretty quick. I mean, it's pretty easy. If A plus B equals C, then C is the answer.

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i barely GNU her!
Apr 28, 2009

The machine is a piece of shit!


The frustrating thing about dealing with AT&T was that I had, in my opinion, narrowed down the problem - there was awful packet loss, usually made far worse by a bad storm, which suggested bad wiring either inside or outside the home. I was able to establish this by seeing that small packets, such as ICMP ping or DNS lookups, would often get lost, but established connections with larger packet sizes such as an HTTP download would usually persist (albeit slowly). It was so terrifically frustrating that I wasn't given any sort of way to ask them to test my hypothesis while 1) not confusing the tech and 2) not looking like the passive-aggressive customers we're talking about here.


Incidentally, I found out two weeks after we switched to Comcast that a neighbor also on AT&T had been seeing the same issues as us for about as long as we were. Problem solved!

KomradeVirtunov
Sep 14, 2007


MA-Horus posted:

As a former phone-slinger, we have NO idea if you are telling the truth when you say "Yes I've reset this already." I can't count the number of times where someone has told me they've reset something and haven't, and it's made what should have been a 5 minute call into a 25 minute call.

If you have a tech that's firing on a few brain cells, they should be able to work it out pretty quick. I mean, it's pretty easy. If A plus B equals C, then C is the answer.

I can safely say I have never had the good fortune of being able to open a support case and have it resolved in the same call. It has been in every single case a line or equipment issue that is admitted after 2-3 weeks of going through the scripted tier 1 troubleshooting tests, then "we'll go ahead and monitor this line and call you back tomorrow", me calling back a few days later "oh, we forgot to call you! lets do a few more troubleshooting steps", usually at the end of call 2 they decide to send a cableman out to look at the home wiring. A few days later the cable technician will show up and evaluate the home wiring (this is aggravating to watch when a traceroute or pathping tells you the issue is elsewhere) and then tell you that they'll continue line monitoring for a day or so and continue looking for potential issues on their end. After this point I'll go a few days and eventually call back when I've given up hope that they're still trying to fix my issue. From this point, if the call goes like the last time, the ISP will want to start from scratch because the cable technician closed the case and it cannot be reopened because of some reason I'd be too depressed to even come up with.

Am I bitter much? Absolutely. I've dealt with this scenario twice in the past year with Insight crossing a total of around 2 months.

edit: I would have switched providers after the first incident, but I'm unfortunately stuck with them here.

ColumnarPad
Oct 15, 2008


Jadus posted:

So you've got quite a few hilariously large mailboxes, that aren't being used? Assumming the SYSTEM account is from nightly maintenance tasks within Exchange.

Are they just mailboxes you're not allowed to get rid of?


Hahaha, oh no no. They are all existing and active users. These are live mailboxes, folks. The one SystemMailbox is for maintenance, but the last access is changed because of a maintenance job that ran before I took the screenshots. The ones I crossed our are access from BES and the users on their Outlook clients.

ColumnarPad fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2010 around 13:10

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


KomradeVirtunov posted:

Am I bitter much? Absolutely. I've dealt with this scenario twice in the past year with Insight crossing a total of around 2 months.

Ouch. I have a customer on Insight and as such have had the "pleasure" of dealing with everyone from tier 1 up to supposedly some of the guys working right on the CMTS. It took mtr screenshots and packet captures from both ends of a VoIP call to the site to convince them that maybe in fact they were having packet loss. Unfortunately, three modems and two line replacements later they're still having the same problems so we just gave up and call forwarded to a landline.

On the topic of tier 1s, I understand how in a large organization they're usually just dumb voices following a script, but basically the scripts suck and need to be set up to better identify when it's time to bail out and pass the call to someone who can help with more than power cycling. If I call saying my TV and cable internet both went out at the same time, asking me to reset my modem is not the correct response.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

You fargin sneaky bastage. I'm gonna take your dwork. I'm gonna nail it to the wall. I'm gonna crush your boils in a meat grinder.


We got a new color MFD about 3 months ago. The fucker has already done 125k color impressions.

couldcareless
Feb 8, 2009

Spheal used Swagger!

Submit my schedule for the day, my boss replies to my coworker's email telling him to switch with me.

Customers aren't a game show, you don't just tell your workers who had appointments to meet these people to just swap it up like it's a crazy twist on a challenge. Pretty sure I'm just going to ignore him.

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003



"We have the problem of OS running problems on Sunday morning and TCCUS daily for error too on Sunday 18,2010, at 12:00am, to inform you that we have experienced a problem error with TCCUS _DB"


...what?

This is like my own personal 'do the needful'. I swear the guys that operate our bank's DB have no idea what language we even speak.

AcridWhistle
Aug 20, 2003

Feasting on the flesh of a recently killed zombie probably wasn't the smartest of moves

FISHMANPET posted:

I upgraded everybody to Adobe Reader 9.4 last night, and now poo poo's all retarded. Lots of people (who also have Acrobat 8 installed) can't open PDFs in browser, with a message "Error: "The Adobe Acrobat/Reader that is running cannot be used to view PDF files in a web browser. Adobe Acrobat/Reader version 8 or 9 is required. Please exit and try again." I'm blaming this on Reader 9.4 and Acrobat 8.fuckyou fighting and not getting along. Could this be the case, or am I whiny idiot who should just deal with Acrobat 8 chilling around?

A bit late but did you use their own customer editor for the MST? Did you tell it to explicitly use the new version of Adobe in the options? You need to leave it on "let acrobat decide" or something like that. That should fix the issue on redeployment.

Yes, it is as dumb as it sounds.

AcridWhistle fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2010 around 14:34

Webbeh
Dec 13, 2003

IF THIS IS A 'LOST' THREAD I'M PROBABLY WHINING ABOUT
STABBEY THE MEANY


The first customer email I got when I started at my job sent me another email today, which made me dig through my inbox to find that glorious email that taught me how fun this job would be.

Only registered members can see post attachments!

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

Webbeh posted:



who are ou why are you message on my computer

go3
Dec 20, 2006


raid 0 on a fileserver with no backups why surely nothing can go wrong here!

brc64
Mar 21, 2008

I wear my sunglasses at night.

go3 posted:

raid 0 on a fileserver with no backups why surely nothing can go wrong here!

But think of the speeeeeeed!

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

My dick is fine. Thanks for asking.


Ahaha Tony just told the CIO that we can go ahead with putting Win 7 on new PCs because our copy of Windows 2008 Server Enterprise came with an unlimited volume license for Win 7!

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009


Dick Trauma posted:

Ahaha Tony just told the CIO that we can go ahead with putting Win 7 on new PCs because our copy of Windows 2008 Server Enterprise came with an unlimited volume license for Win 7!

Man! I bet he feels so right now.

surely there's no cost for windows 7 for the clients, right? I mean you paid for the server and stuff!

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

Whatever happened to the BSA torpedo?

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

My dick is fine. Thanks for asking.


Nothing! Guess we were too small a fish for them to bother with.

I'm not going to bother telling the CIO about this latest licensing nonsense. He never followed up on the Win2k licensing problem, didn't reply to the stupid poo poo Tony did on Friday... it's not worth the time it would take to explain it to him.

Besides I need to check on my Pocket Frogs.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

rolleyes posted:

Whatever happened to the BSA torpedo?

Sounds like it just got supersized.

RAID 0 with no backups ? I can top that. Twice.

1. Our old music server had 2 TB of storage. This was made up of no fewer than 8 250 GB drives. You put two in a Rackfire unit, they become a 500GB RAID 0 set. Then you put four of those abominations into a big RAID 0 set. Soooo many points of failure. Naturally it did. Good by 10 years of 50 people collecting music.

2. Our backup solutions were worse. Those RAID 0 trays ? They go into a 1U unit with a Firewire connection to the server. Naturally, losing either drive destroys the whole set. We back up to those. We also occasionally lose a drive; by my count about 3 TB of archives have gone away forever. You want a file from 2007 ? Gone. My predecessor swapped between two sets in about a two-month rotation, so anything over 4 months old was guaranteed to be gone. And it's not like he was backing up anything but a quarter of the desktops and the file server. Not the boot volume or the configuration, just the files. Mirroring the boot volume to an external hard drive just isn't the same thing as actual backups.

All that, and Apple just sold me an LTO-4 autoloader and an incompatible fibre channel card. Nice job of systems integration.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

My dick is fine. Thanks for asking.


"Systems integration" is when you plug things into each other.

Jonny Nox
Apr 25, 2008


Rohaq posted:


'Okay, now click 'Run'... Type in "cmd"; that's Charlie, Mike, Delta... Press Enter and a black box should pop up. I want you to type in the following for me...'


I'm enough of an rear end in a top hat that I will actually tell you "Windows cannot find application 'Charlie'" just to see if you can make a man choke to death on his own tears. (I'd be really nice after that though)

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

You fargin sneaky bastage. I'm gonna take your dwork. I'm gonna nail it to the wall. I'm gonna crush your boils in a meat grinder.


OT, but funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...d&v=n-yIs74vFeg
Samsung Memory Cards. Shock proof, water proof, magnet proof.

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

As viral marketing goes, that's a decent effort.

couldcareless
Feb 8, 2009

Spheal used Swagger!

Really wish I could remember what I set as the password on this Sonicwall...

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007



Midelne posted:

Dick already pointed this out, but this is bad advice to give to a user since a lot of popups have buttons that either don't do what you'd expect or that aren't actually buttons to begin with, i.e. the popup is an image of a window with buttons and a red X to close it, but clicking anywhere on the image or in the window has the result of continuing the installation.

The best thing you can tell a nontechnical home user is to turn their system off if they get a popup that they don't understand. Clicking anything is likely to be bad advice, including the red X, and you can't count on an average user being able to identify and kill an undesired process using the Task Manager.
First ticket of the morning was from a user who'd got an infection over the weekend. We told her to shut it off with the power button and don't click on ANYTHING because it's the virus.

"But I couldn't shut it down without click on the popup window!"

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

couldcareless posted:

Really wish I could remember what I set as the password on this Sonicwall...

Sounds like a good time for a network infrastructure upgrade.

Synnr
Dec 29, 2009


I like reading the ticket stuff you guys post, mostly because I sort of can follow most of it. I do very bottom tier helpdesk/IT stuff at university and it's usually the same old stuff day in and day out. If the university receives a DMCA notice, the user gets blocked right? If the user wants to know why he's blocked we send them the stuff they have to do to get unblocked. Today....



Email response posted:

ya i dunt think I want 2 do that. Wut is on my computer is my bisinuss. yall can keep that mac address

That is verbatim.
32 year old faculty member

frogbert
Jun 2, 2007


Farking Bastage posted:

We got a new color MFD about 3 months ago. The fucker has already done 125k color impressions.

Holy crap! How much maintenance does that thing require? Because if its none/very little I want to know exactly what make and model that thing is.

enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

I only dealt with one real "ticket" today while letting my minions deal with the 10-20 laptops that came in from the "email scam" of the weekend.

I walked in, something didn't sound right outside of my server room, opened the door to get hit with a 95+ degree blast of air to the face.

The HVAC system decided the filters needed cleaning and shut down.

I told the chair of our department "you know, this is another reason I need environmental sensors."

His response "Nah, that's too expensive. . . Oh did you get that laptop ordered for me?"

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

My dick is fine. Thanks for asking.


enotnert posted:

"Nah, that's too expensive. . . Oh did you get that laptop ordered for me?"

And then you hand him one of "the 10-20 laptops that came in from the "email scam" of the weekend."

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

frogbert posted:

Holy crap! How much maintenance does that thing require? Because if its none/very little I want to know exactly what make and model that thing is.
Bizhubs seem pretty good, they rarely jam from what I've seen. Don't let your boss be an idiot and buy them, find a company to lease it from so you're not stuck repairing it every week 7 years from now.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

My dick is fine. Thanks for asking.


Tony decided to give away all the old "Powercenter" desktop surge protectors that have proven to be a fire hazard. The helpdesk guy then asked me to take a look at my trouble ticket app.



Yes, everyone who asks for a surge protector is being added by Tony as an individual ticket. In addition the carpet is being replaced here in sections and if he has to dismantle six PCs in a row he enters them all as tickets, and then reenters them all again when they are plugged back in.

He is passing the helpdesk guy's ticket count on the strength of these padded tickets and the helpdesk guy is starting to get upset because it makes it look like Tony does more work than him.

All I can do is feel sorry for him. Tony will never be called to account for his manifold failings as an I.T. Director and as a human being.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

You fargin sneaky bastage. I'm gonna take your dwork. I'm gonna nail it to the wall. I'm gonna crush your boils in a meat grinder.


frogbert posted:

Holy crap! How much maintenance does that thing require? Because if its none/very little I want to know exactly what make and model that thing is.

Konica Minolta BizHub pro C6500. Like the rest of our MFD's it's leased per page, but it is supposed to do around 500k impressions before any maintenance.

Speaking of bad rear end printers, we have 3 Oce' VarioPrint 6100's. The fuckers spit out 120 pages of 11x17 per minute full duplex. They are literally liquid cooled and are will do 1 million impressions before any maintenance and are under warranty to 10 million impressions.

e: the Firey print system drivers on that color machine are a little tricky, but ones it's all sorted it's a hell of a machine.

Farking Bastage fucked around with this message at Oct 19, 2010 around 00:15

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

Dick Trauma posted:

Tony decided to give away all the old "Powercenter" desktop surge protectors that have proven to be a fire hazard. The helpdesk guy then asked me to take a look at my trouble ticket app.

So he's taken the trouble to do extensive documentation of giving specific users a known fire hazard for home use. That can't possibly bite him in the rear end later.

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004
The Benefactor

Dick Trauma posted:


All I can do is feel sorry for him. Tony will never be called to account for his manifold failings as an I.T. Director and as a human being.

Not until helpdesk guy snaps and takes a hammer to Tony's face.



Tell Helpdesk guy to report it in writing, then when nothing happens, send written notification that since metrics are based on ticket count, and what Tony is doing has tacit consent, he should start doing exactly the same thing.

enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

Dick Trauma posted:

And then you hand him one of "the 10-20 laptops that came in from the "email scam" of the weekend."

Nah, but he was curious if I had gotten that loving 7 year old centrino laptop with a dieing hard drive running again yet.

Had to remind him "it's not exactly on my priorities list when my server room is hot enough that I need to take off my shirt upon entering"

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008


You should do a shirtless protest until they give into your demands.

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."


Who knows? They might PAY him to put the shirt back on

i barely GNU her!
Apr 28, 2009

The machine is a piece of shit!


Dick Trauma posted:

Tony decided to give away all the old "Powercenter" desktop surge protectors that have proven to be a fire hazard. The helpdesk guy then asked me to take a look at my trouble ticket app.



Yes, everyone who asks for a surge protector is being added by Tony as an individual ticket. In addition the carpet is being replaced here in sections and if he has to dismantle six PCs in a row he enters them all as tickets, and then reenters them all again when they are plugged back in.

He is passing the helpdesk guy's ticket count on the strength of these padded tickets and the helpdesk guy is starting to get upset because it makes it look like Tony does more work than him.

All I can do is feel sorry for him. Tony will never be called to account for his manifold failings as an I.T. Director and as a human being.

Now sounds like an excellent time to add a feature that lets you mark a ticket as a duplicate of another, and then exclude duplicated tickets from counts/reports.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009


Derpes Simplex posted:

Now sounds like an excellent time to add a feature that lets you mark a ticket as a duplicate of another, and then exclude duplicated tickets from counts/reports.

ha, awesome. I wonder if it already exists?

/sounds like helpdesk guy should be doing this to tony's tickets

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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

I've generated a shitload of tickets for myself, either by taking notes on all the "hey, you got a minute" requests or by using it as a to-do list. This, this is loving sleazy. Each step of each subunit is its own ticket ?

Dropping a neatly formatted printed summary of all the tickets he does is just silly on the CIOs desk might be good. Running the report anytime the CIO mentions ticketing metrics as a snappy response might be even better.

Look at those obnoxious little dupes and see if you can't use a fairly small text box to hold the ticket summary and still show all of it. Add enough detail to identify how little each ticket really is, and enough to make it bloody obvious what he's doing. But the CIO will probably need to already be in an inquiring state of mind before he'll get it. Or care.

Today and yesterday a new org chart was circulated. Without my department on it. v3 showed up promptly, so it's all good.

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