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Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

We're giving you a hint.


Biowarfare posted:

What is the proper response to


?

The Delete button.

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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004



Biowarfare posted:

What is the proper response to


?

Google the article from a few years ago when Hotmail was deleting random inboxes and was unable to restore it.

When people blogged and complained about loosing their life's work the industry pretty much replied, "It's free. You get what you pay for."

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

My dick is fine. Thanks for asking.


Biowarfare posted:

What is the proper response to


?

Send them this:

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box

Biowarfare posted:

What is the proper response to


?

For serious: Look through their terms of use. There may be disclaimers about using the free service for business purposes, which would give them a nice easy method of stfu.

Otherwise, delete and ignore it, unless it's a C-Level, then let them set up their own and block live.com at the firewall.

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

Biowarfare posted:

What is the proper response to


?

"Would you trust business communication from something ending @hotmail.com? If so, congratulations, you've just inherited 200,000 POUNDS STERLING from a distant aunt and I need a good-faith deposit so that the escrow company will release it to you."

This might also be a good place to laugh at high-placed political figures that attempt to use this exact same methodology, what with a 'hacker' just having been sentenced.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004



I have a serious distrust of small business that have a domain name but use a free email service.

"Check us out on the web at acmewaterstore.com or email us at watrstre1342@yahoo.com"

I mean really, it's not that costly to add a few email accounts to your hosting plan.

Sadly I know that real reason for this is that the owner or some employee only knows how to use MSN webmail and switching to something as "complicated" as Outlook Express is out of the question.

Biowarfare
Nov 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT BEING NEXON AMERICA'S ONLY SYSADMIN


Pointed out "We may cancel or suspend your service and your access to the Windows Live ID network at any time without notice and for any reason.", got rid of that issue.

I'm new to the whole IT thing and reading the first few hundred pages tells me that inane soul crushing madness happens on a regular basis.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Waiting for his chance

Biowarfare posted:

What is the proper response to


?

"The same reason we haven't outsourced your job to Molly Maids."

wigbone
Aug 18, 2003

A FINE DAY IN BEIRUT.

This is the one thing
we did not want to happen.


Dick Trauma posted:

Send them this:


I just spent about twenty minutes on youtube trying to find the interview that's from. Would love to see him actually say that - do you happen to know when it's from, Dick?

Independence
Jul 11, 2006



Biowarfare posted:

What is the proper response to


?

President and CEO of the old company I worked for would use aol.com as his primary work email address. This is a multi-million dollar defense company. Also, he required AOL 8.0 installed on his desktop to access his emails.

He used that when I got there and to my knowledge, still uses it after 10 years.

SmellsOfFriendship
May 2, 2008

Crazy has and always will be a way to discredit or otherwise demean a woman's thoughts and opinions

Oh god, our alert service is reporting 7/10 public DNS server resolution failures to our domain. Apparently only 3 public DNS servers can resolve correctly.

Queue a ton of tickets going "fix the internets dns please"

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

My dick is fine. Thanks for asking.


fleet21 posted:

I just spent about twenty minutes on youtube trying to find the interview that's from. Would love to see him actually say that - do you happen to know when it's from, Dick?

This was from an appearance on Conan. They did a skit where the executive producer was going to ask Harrison trivia questions and they asked something really silly like the color of the tip of Indiana Jones's bullwhip. That was the queue for Harrison to pretend to have one of his famous grumpy moments.

But he really is a grumpy sumbitch.

Rohaq
Aug 11, 2006


Biowarfare posted:

What is the proper response to


?
Send a reply that vaguely implies that Microsoft/Google will spy on their data, without actually saying it. Leave them to poo poo themselves.

That said, you can go the whole Google Apps route and get Gtalk, but why bother when you can set up your own Jabber server and maintain control?

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004



Biowarfare posted:

What is the proper response to


?

Oh poo poo I just remembered. I think you guys may see more requests like this. Facebook is rumored to start giving away @facebook.com email accounts to compete with Gmail.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


rscott posted:

I might have mentioned this before, but up until circa 2006, Owens-Illinois (they make like 75% of the glass containers used for food in the US) factories exclusively used Token-Ring networks for everything.

In factories this kind of makes sense. Token ring networks IIRC have very predictable performance and latency, so they have advantages in the same kind of situations you'd use a RTOS. I could be talking entirely out of my rear end though, I've only once seen a token ring card in person and never used it on an operating network. For all I know they could just have kept using it out of pure inertia.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

We're giving you a hint.


Bonzo posted:

Oh poo poo I just remembered. I think you guys may see more requests like this. Facebook is rumored to start giving away @facebook.com email accounts to compete with Gmail.

Oh gently caress. We're doomed.

Biowarfare
Nov 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT BEING NEXON AMERICA'S ONLY SYSADMIN


Maker Of Shoes posted:

Oh gently caress. We're doomed.

A chinese restaurant I go to occasionally has a printed out paper on the wall. There is no link or what to search for. Just a giant facebook logo and the like button. (also, "verification required")

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

SmellsOfFriendship posted:

Oh god, our alert service is reporting 7/10 public DNS server resolution failures to our domain. Apparently only 3 public DNS servers can resolve correctly.

Queue a ton of tickets going "fix the internets dns please"



DNS is fun.

Our parent company's IT department is currently hunting for a mistake in DMZ configuration as the culprit for why I have seventy customer and other business-related emails sitting in my mail server's queue waiting to be delivered. Emails to @companyname.com work fine, but the abbreviated @cmpnme.com domain - which they also administer, and which should be pointing MTAs to the exact same server, but isn't - just sit in the queue with a message that the remote server failed to respond.

I told them to look at MX records for the two zones that we're concerned with, since they're resolving to a variety of different addresses, but I don't think they paid any attention. What do I know, right?

Puck42
Oct 7, 2005



rscott posted:

I might have mentioned this before, but up until circa 2006, Owens-Illinois (they make like 75% of the glass containers used for food in the US) factories exclusively used Token-Ring networks for everything.

I did some consulting work for one of the largest Health Insurance providers in the US. Their entire network was built on Token Ring. Every computer had an adapter to convert from Ethernet to Token Ring. We were doing email backups over the network and it would take hours to backup a 500MB mailbox.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

If only faces could talk...


wolrah posted:

In factories this kind of makes sense. Token ring networks IIRC have very predictable performance and latency, so they have advantages in the same kind of situations you'd use a RTOS. I could be talking entirely out of my rear end though, I've only once seen a token ring card in person and never used it on an operating network. For all I know they could just have kept using it out of pure inertia.

I could understand if they were factory machines but the entire office and all the workstations on the shop floor were token ring as well. There is a lot of inertia in large companies like that, but Christ what would you do if you walked into a company that was using IPX in 2010? It's kind of the same thing IMO.

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

rscott posted:

There is a lot of inertia in large companies like that, but Christ what would you do if you walked into a company that was using IPX in 2010?

Probably fume at the image of whoever writes Cisco routing exams shouting in triumph that there was finally a justification for the persistent mention of how important a feature the support of IPX is for Cisco-proprietary protocols.

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004
The Benefactor

Puck42 posted:

I did some consulting work for one of the largest Health Insurance providers in the US. Their entire network was built on Token Ring. Every computer had an adapter to convert from Ethernet to Token Ring. We were doing email backups over the network and it would take hours to backup a 500MB mailbox.

For factory work, there is at least a semi-sane reason for token ring/fiber network stuff. Some of the older unshielded or partially shielded motors used in metalforming machines and just about everything before 1975 have some hilarious as gently caress rotating magnetic fields. These will ruin the data integrity of RS-232 being driven at like 12v, much less impedance matched lines running at 1.something volts.
For shits and giggles I took some 10baseT ethernet links and draped them over the top of the VMC we had running, I ended up with something like 95% lost/malformed/retransmitted packets, the only time it would work is when the spindle spun down to change tools.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have an oral fixation and it's not the sexy kind

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

For factory work, there is at least a semi-sane reason for token ring/fiber network stuff. Some of the older unshielded or partially shielded motors used in metalforming machines and just about everything before 1975 have some hilarious as gently caress rotating magnetic fields. These will ruin the data integrity of RS-232 being driven at like 12v, much less impedance matched lines running at 1.something volts.
For shits and giggles I took some 10baseT ethernet links and draped them over the top of the VMC we had running, I ended up with something like 95% lost/malformed/retransmitted packets, the only time it would work is when the spindle spun down to change tools.

That might make sense for fiber, but you can run ethernet or token ring over STP or UTP depending on your environment. I think it is most likely that these are just legacy installs from the days when token ring was more prominent (and frankly it was the way to go when compared to thinnet/thicknet ethernet. gently caress tracking down missing terminators) and they are just going to keep running that infrastructure until it completely blows up.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009


Bonzo posted:

Oh poo poo I just remembered. I think you guys may see more requests like this. Facebook is rumored to start giving away @facebook.com email accounts to compete with Gmail.

please tell me you're loving kidding.

why does the world have to be so cruel?

Biowarfare
Nov 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT BEING NEXON AMERICA'S ONLY SYSADMIN


notwithoutmyanus posted:

please tell me you're loving kidding.

why does the world have to be so cruel?
Let's hope they get sued for trying to sell the full content of other peoples emails in that case?

J
Jun 10, 2001



But you can't block facebook, I need to get to my facebook email! This affects patient care!

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

Midelne posted:

Our parent company's IT department is currently hunting for a mistake in DMZ configuration as the culprit for why I have seventy customer and other business-related emails sitting in my mail server's queue waiting to be delivered.

Logged onto the parent company's Citrix farm, opening Outlook on one of their servers per usual to check my mail on their side of things.



Unplanned outage, several hundred users, Friday afternoon. I'm not involved in any way.

PirateDentist
Mar 28, 2006

Sailing The Seven Seas Searching For Scurvy

J posted:

But you can't block facebook, I need to get to my facebook email! This affects patient care!

When they pull that line out of their rear end can you never just look at them and go:

Bullshit.

couldcareless
Feb 8, 2009

Spheal used Swagger!

Done. loving done. Time to go drink.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

couldcareless posted:

Done. loving done. Time to go drink.

Another drone is free !

Biowarfare
Nov 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT BEING NEXON AMERICA'S ONLY SYSADMIN


J posted:

But you can't block facebook, I need to get to my facebook email! This affects patient care!

Get them fired for handing patient data to an unauthorized non-certified third party, in that case.

less than three
Aug 9, 2007

Fire Sights and LED Lights

ESC 2010 Never Forget

couldcareless posted:

Done. loving done. Time to go drink.

*Virtual hug*

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

couldcareless posted:

Done. loving done. Time to go drink.

NeuralSpark
Apr 16, 2004

Objects In The Rear View Mirror May Appear Cooler Than They Are

Learned a new one today: a "tile 3" day.

This one particular IT guy at a customer of mine keeps left-over beer from an office party under the 3rd tile in the 1st cold aisle of their server room.

Citizen Z
Jul 12, 2009

~Hanzo Steel~


couldcareless posted:

Done. loving done. Time to go drink.

Cheers!

I had a job interview today. I've never interviewed for a job while currently employed at a job that I'm ok with. It's a strange feeling to not be hungry for a job, just interested in the opportunity.

On the plus side, if I get it, good bye 60 hour work weeks!

OatmealRocks
Jul 6, 2006
Burrp!

couldcareless posted:

Well, technically, the secretary is here, but she is so old and disgruntled I doubt she would care.

Hell of a way for them to say good bye. However you are only useful for the day. You are already forgotten.

OatmealRocks
Jul 6, 2006
Burrp!

couldcareless posted:

Done. loving done. Time to go drink.

They say goodbye? How much big a pile of poo poo did you leave them?

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004



Independence posted:

President and CEO of the old company I worked for would use aol.com as his primary work email address. This is a multi-million dollar defense company. Also, he required AOL 8.0 installed on his desktop to access his emails.

He used that when I got there and to my knowledge, still uses it after 10 years.

Yup, I had the same problem; except this was at a startup. He was still using it when I left in April.

I always called that particular startup "Web 1.5," is it was made up of a bunch of people from places that survived the dot-com burst trying to make a new website.

Griz
May 21, 2001



customer called in because she changed someone's password and now the user is not only able unable to login, but he also doesn't appear anywhere in the program's user list, and trying to recreate him gives an error that the username is already in use.

so I went into the database and looked at the employees table

"I see the employee in here, and I also see that his hire_date and effective_from fields have been set to the year 3000 which means he won't be able to login until then"
"oh I changed his password and then it said I had to enter a hire date so I put in some random date"

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SmellsOfFriendship
May 2, 2008

Crazy has and always will be a way to discredit or otherwise demean a woman's thoughts and opinions

Huh, all of our DNS check servers are back online and not a single ticket to fix the internets.

I am attributing this to posting a pre-emtive whine here.

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