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In any kind of Unix, you need execute permissions on the folders (but not read or write) to traverse into directories.
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Dravs posted:You need the List Folder Contents permission on higher level folders otherwise they can't browse to the file to open it. Actually as I recall there's the Traverse Folder permission, which is lower than List - it's specifically designed for this kind of situation so they can access subfolders but not be able to see anything in the parent folder (basically they have to directly access via a link to the subfolder because if they try to access the parent folder they won't be able to even list the contents to access the subfolder). Edit: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...794(WS.10).aspx
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Potato Alley posted:I'm trying to figure out if you just keep mistyping or you've taken up designing and creating fancy clothes for people. I'm probably making a horrible mockery of the language. Please tell me what I'm doing wrong and I'll make sure to correct it and do it right in the future. E: English being a foreign language to me and all that.
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Crowley posted:I'm probably making a horrible mockery of the language. Please tell me what I'm doing wrong and I'll make sure to correct it and do it right in the future. Took me a while to catch it too. Costumers != Customers edit: English being my only language and all that.
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Jonny Nox posted:Costumers != Customers gently caress's sake! I should know better than that. Thanks.
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devmd01 posted:....you get good support from HP? What loving planet are you on? My company's a VAR for HP products, and we're in the middle of a big project for one of their top 5 software customers. HP slobbers our knobs on a regular basis.
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devmd01 posted:....you get good support from HP? What loving planet are you on? I get great support from HP for all my Proliant Servers. Now the MSA 1510i I bought..... No really so much.
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Crowley posted:gently caress's sake! I should know better than that. You should. It's utterly unacceptable for you furriners not to know our language perfectly. /is an American /only knows English /thinks Danish means breakfast
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Cup of Hemlock posted:"HEY CUP OF HEMLOCK KNOWS HOW TO ADD PRINTERS AND PRINT STUFF ON LEGAL SIZE PAPER, GO ASK HIM FOR HELP." I'm starting to get it beaten into the head of med records that she can't just charge in and have me drop everything to help her when the copier jams. "See that error message on the screen? The one what shows you where the problem is and what to do about it? That's all I go by if I have a problem - I don't know a drat thing about it otherwise. So, if you can follow those instructions, you can do just as well as I can." Of course, it's not that she *can't* do that, it's that she's a lazy poo poo, but she's going to get the idea, even if I have to drop it on her from Low Earth Orbit.
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phonecall posted:
I was really hoping to get into a discussion of mathematical principles after that.
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ok but your website is broken.
It looks fine to me. What's the problem.
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Potato Alley posted:You should. It's utterly unacceptable for you furriners not to know our language perfectly. /and still spells English words incorrectly 
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rolleyes posted:/and still spells English words incorrectly Me no good with words. Make head hurt. Me have pointed stick! 
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Potato Alley posted:You should. It's utterly unacceptable for you furriners not to know our language perfectly. Danish means a really hard loving language that doesn't accept much variation on pronunciation due to such a small pool of speakers.  Rødgrød med fløde 
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loving vendors. My boss had me take over a project where a vendor that everyone here knows was looking to get a deal with us. I've been doing some research and hearing some negative things but this is not the highest priority. I'm not done yet. I get an email from him today because like all vendors he's hot to do a deal. I tell him to contact me first week of November because I'm busy and still doing my research and he seemed ok with that. Maybe two minutes later I get an email from the CEO. The vendor knows him and sent him an email that said things were dragging, specifically with me and he wants the CEO to give me a push. FUCKER. Well my boss was also called out in that email so he blew a gasket, called up the CEO, and now we have the directive to lay into the vendor. From a business standpoint there's still interest in working with him but goddamn people have to know they can't pull that poo poo with this company without getting an rear end chewing.
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Dick Trauma posted:loving vendors. For a second there I thought the pod blew a fuse. Then I got to the end and realized everything worked itself out in dreamland.
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couldcareless posted:For a second there I thought the pod blew a fuse. Then I got to the end and realized everything worked itself out in dreamland. Nah, just tripped a circuit-breaker. It auto-reset and everything's fine.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Danish means a really hard loving language that doesn't accept much variation on pronunciation due to such a small pool of speakers. My wife's from Bornholm. My mother's family is from Western Jutland. How do you define "not much variation" when people from such a small country in all seriousness can't understand what people less than 200 miles away are saying when they (claim to) speak the same language? Besides: English is the professional language of anyone in IT. Of course I strive to be good at it.
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Crowley posted:My wife's from Bornholm. My mother's family is from Western Jutland. How do you define "not much variation" when people from such a small country in all seriousness can't understand what people less than 200 miles away are saying when they (claim to) speak the same language? I mean if you have a foreign accent or suck at pronunciation (me) then often a conversation will rapidly devolve into either spelling things out or going to english.
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Jabor posted:Nah, just tripped a circuit-breaker. It auto-reset and everything's fine. It's a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something. 
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Cool Matty posted:It's a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something. poo poo that you come across daily that pisses you off: People endlessly making Matrix references about Dick Trauma and others because everyone else does it. Without thinking. Smith posted:Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost.
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Stonefish posted:poo poo that you come across daily that pisses you off: Don't you see? We're seeing the first crop now! DT's the one that refuses to accept the program! 
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angrytech posted:
This causes an unbalanced equation that will spread and destroy the entire system.
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A ticket came in: The nerds in sector 7G are starting to become aware of their surroundings
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Stonefish posted:poo poo that you come across daily that pisses you off: Do you really come across it that often? I guess I'm just lucky enough to work with people who are comedically aware enough to know that, say, the Monty Python non-sequiturs just aren't that funny without the proper context, and the more you use it the less funny it gets?
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OriginalPseudonym posted:I guess I'm just lucky enough to work with people who are comedically aware enough to know that, say, the Monty Python non-sequiturs just aren't that funny without the proper context, and the more you use it the less funny it gets? Much like Sideshow Bob and rakes, they get less funny the more they're used right up until they become funny due to overuse.
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I am starting to hate my Career, any advice would be appreciated. The best term that I can use to describe myself at this particular juncture is a "tweener". I am 33 years old and I have done various levels of support work for about 12 years now. I feel that I am on the verge of breaking through the glass ceiling known as support/desktop/helldesk/whatever, but I just don't know when, or how much longer I can handle doing support before I simply burn out. Background info: I never finished my 4 year degree. This was a combination of life and stupidity. When I was in college ( 98-02 ) and I looked at the rest of my degree curriculum, especially in the latter years, all I saw was programming, which at the time I was horrible at. Discreet math wasn't much fun either. Basically, I decided at that point that real world experience would better benefit me over programming hello world in assembler. Little did I know that not finishing that degree would disqualify me from so many non-support positions. BS aside, once I got into some ok-paying jobs in helldesk and desktop, I allowed myself to get complacent. I thought to myself, " hey I make decent money for someone with an associate's degree, sooner or later, if I work hard enough, some company will surely help me continue my education either via certs or finishing a proper IT degree, and ill get a promotion" I learned that that is not quite the case. After realizing what the whole A+ cert was about, I figured it a waste of time. As of now, I feel that I am a ridiculously overqualified desktop tech. But, at the same time, I don't have the credentials to qualify applying for anything that's not some sort of support gig. After seeing quite a few right-out-of-college kids with 4 year degrees advance so quickly over me when I fixed so many of their mistakes along the way, I got pretty jaded. Dealing with the emotional toll of managing the complaint inbox ( AKA tickets ) had me, at one point, considering starting over. Maybe, I shouldn't look at it this way, but I think support is just the entry level gig that is so stressful, people eventually move on to bigger and better things; a right of passage of sorts. Also, I feel quite left behind after seeing so many friends and colleagues move on to being network engineers or sysadmins. Here I am, entering my mid thirties and I am still doing it. Current work: As far as I am concerned, I am one of the best desktop guys you could possibly have, especially in windows environments. I have and continue to set up, manage, and tweak several different imaging systems( Ghost, WDS and Altiris mainly) I am capable of setting these up from the ground up if needed. I know sysprep and WAIK. I have enough networking knowledge to get things like PXE working across multiple V-LANs. I have enough Windows server knowledge to build file/print servers, manage permissions, manage enterprise level WSUS and AV servers from different vendors. I have experience managing Cisco UNITY, as well as call manager. I manage, configure, and fix VmWare View VM's regularly. I understand the concepts behind virtualization, I can configure both static and linked clones in VmWare VDI. I manage our linked clones and static VM's in view, but I didn't build the ESX server hosting them. Limitations: I have never set up an enterprise network or a domain from the ground up( Hundreds of smaller ones). I have never built an ESX server or a View connection server. I have never configured a firewall or router from the ground up( switches yes). I have never had the opportunity to build an entire network from nothing. I am not reckless or heavy handed when dealing with a problem. In my current position, I do not make large changes without asking or notifying someone. I don't know a lot about the inner working of DNS. I know enough about AD to do account administration/permissions/etc, but I have never built one. I don't know a ton about exchange, but I can generally fix a minor problem. I don't claim to know every answer when the head sysadmin is away, but I can usually google my way though a problem and fix it without any outside help. In my current gig, things are handed off to me to maintain and repair AFTER they are set up and tested. This could be a trust thing as much as a " I'm the head admin " thing. I constantly ask for and strive to learn more and do more, and my current employer allows me to do so with little " job security no you can't have access to this. " I basically have the same rights as the guy who makes twice as much. What I am doing about it: It's a little late in life to be doing all this, but I have determined that I would like to advance into networking. I am currently enrolled in a 6 month CCNA class, which I am currently kicking rear end in, and I have little doubt, that by April of next year, I will be a certified CCNA. This is a full course and not a bootcamp, like so many MCSE's of the recent past. I continue to take on more responsibility, managing things that are miles over " my pay grade " to prove that I am worth keeping around and developing. I want to know more and do more every day. I am impatient, ambitious, and hungry, yet misguided and lost at the same time. What does one do in my situation? I managed to talk my current employer into the CCNA stuff, but I have a feeling that is all I can get. I have no reservations about doing every cert I can get my hands on going forward, but without some real network building experience, I am afraid it will all be for not. I feel that I have been spinning my wheels for quite some time. Any suggestions on how to break though would be greatly appreciated.
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Farking Bastage posted:Any suggestions on how to break though would be greatly appreciated. My mini guide to getting out/up: - Local tech groups/meetings are a good place to start finding the elusive but lauded "know someone" path to another job. It's easier to network and get connections in bigger metro areas, for sure. If you're in the middle of nowhere like I am/was, that is not as easy. WIllingness to move is a huge boon to someone looking for a new position. - Apply to any job you're remotely qualified for skillset-wise. Education/certs can and will be worked around by substituting "equivalent experience". - Semi-related to above: Get a good resume. The Interviewers thread in Ask/Tell is a great place to get reviews. If you have a hard time getting your resume set and have the bucks, get ResumesToInterviews (Goon-run resume service) to help craft your resume. - Knock out many cheap certs. You got your employer to pay for CCNA courses, which is awesome right now (lots of places are getting training budgets slashed). See what else you can get out of them (books? pay for the tests?) once you snag the CCNA. Even if they don't offer anything else, it may be worth (very YMMV) picking up some certs on your own. - Build a test lab. Switches, VMWare box, GNS3, etc. - Don't give up.
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Farking Bastage posted:If you work at a large organization, look at internal job postings, and talk to your boss or your boss's boss, and ask how you would go about getting to the next level. If they're supportive, they'll say what would be expected of you for that stage, and help set clear goals towards achieving it. If they're shitheads, put a resume together and find some good recruiters (ask around discreetly). Basically, you need to figure out where your path to progression lies. If it lies within your company, you need to figure out what that path is and how to take it. Otherwise, your path probably leads to another job.
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a friend's ticket came in:Scotty_Nooo posted:Joey you will get a kick out of this... (TO THE CLOUD!> 
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I appreciate it guys.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:a friend's ticket came in:  Then again, I'm not too surprised. Fancy machines need fancy drivers, don't you know! 
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You might consider finishing your degree. I realize it might not be fun, but you can't deny how effective it's been at getting those freshly graduated kids up and out of help desk.
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devmd01 posted:....you get good support from HP? What loving planet are you on? Hey, I get AWESOME support from HP, but then again, we buy about 40-80 fully loaded servers from them a DAY, so they love us. HP sucks, but in my experience, everyone else sucks worse.
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Farking Bastage posted:words Hey alternate universe me, how's it going! Much like you, I started a BS in computer science in 1998 and dropped out in 2002. Worked Helpdesk for a bit, but customers drove me batshit so I took an entry-level job in a NOC for a pretty large company. This was the lowest level grunt work you can imagine, but unlike helpdesk, your "customers" are all internal and you are working with dev teams most of the time. This got me exposed to all kinds of fun enterprise architecture (Weblogic, Websphere MQ, F5 load balancers, ActiveMQ, etc) which I studied and learned inside and out for a good 5 years before using my newfound knowledge to get a new job doing application engineering. If you want my advice, go find a NOC and take the shittiest 3rd shift job. Don't just sleep during your shift, but figure out how everything works. Get an alert at 2am? Follow the run book but make sure you understand how everything works. Ask dev teams for architecture diagrams or for explanations if you don't get how something works. Just keep digging until you figure out how everything fits together. Pick up a few scripting languages and play with them. Automate tasks. Improve processes. be an awesome team player. After 2 years of this, you will be the guy people come to when poo poo breaks. Continue doing this until you either get promoted or can walk away to a job paying $80k+. Maybe both. I finished my NOC job as a Senior Analyst and walked away to a $110k/year contract position. When I put in my 2 weeks notice my boss said he wasn't surprised. He understood that he is essentially bringing people in at $45k and giving them the skills to go find a job making double that. But you have to work at it. There are still plenty of guys I worked with who are still there and happy with what they've got and don't feel the need to go for more. I have zero certifications and people don't even care about my lack of a degree now. Basically, if you want more, find a good entry level spot and work your rear end off at it. HatfulOfHollow fucked around with this message at Oct 20, 2011 around 14:44 |
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:O HatfulOfHollow is Bash.org famous, who knew! (I guess anyone who looked at his avatar). Nitrogen: 40-80 a DAY? What do they get used for?
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Time to start drinking. 11AM is plenty late enough. I'm in a straight up argument with a customer over what his billing username is, and how he should go about resetting his password. Hey guy, of the two of us, only one of us can understand what to enter into fields marked "email address" and "billing username" in five tries, so maybe you should listen to me.
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I will never work at a place this retarded ever again. I get segregation of duties and why they are important, but roles and access are so hosed here. We have a single person here who still has the rights to make a group policy object. This is his entire role unofficially. Something come across your desk and needs an object creation to fix or streamline? He will not accept you simply forwarding it to him. He wants an email that tells him exactly what to do. He wants you to create and plan the solution, he literally wants to click the buttons for you. Your solution, his mouse clicks. His job is to POSSESS ACCESS. There is an access database for printer organization. Desktop is the only group who does anything with printers. Sole access to change anything on this database is not held by desktop. When anything needs to be changed on the database, they have to email someone so they can make the appropriate clicks. The company is littered with this poo poo. One person or group to provide the solution, another person who holds the access to make the change. I like checks and balances, but when someone who holds access to make the changes isn't in your dept or held to your metrics, you are hosed. I have documented this stuff for about am month now. I sheduled a meeting with my boss and we went over it. At the end, I was convinced that a look of complete fear came over his face every time I used the word "change" or "please talk to". He doesn't really know how to explain to me that he isn't going to do anything yet. I do expect it before the end of this week by my experience though.
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totalnewbie posted:Nitrogen: 40-80 a DAY? What do they get used for? That's an awful lot of something...
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madmaan posted:I will never work at a place this retarded ever again. I get segregation of duties and why they are important, but roles and access are so hosed here. Can I be your Active Directory guy? I'm real good at clicking buttons. And a job where I can blame any screw up on whoever gave me the instructions sounds swell.
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totalnewbie posted:Nitrogen: 40-80 a DAY? What do they get used for? Large, global "Infrastructure as a service" (gently caress "cloud") and managed hosting provider. Someone, somewhere around the globe is either getting a new environment or is getting old poo poo changed out. Our legacy IaaS product runs on HP gear, but the new stuff is moving to CIsco UCS gear. The talk is, EVERYTHING will move to UCS gear at some point, which will be interesting. My team builds most of the managed stuff, which is about 1/3 to 1/2 of this. We're also building out new infrastructure in 4 new datacenters, which is where a bit of this average is currently coming from.
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