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tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



SteadfastMeat posted:

It's surprising how many ultra-conservative cartoonists are actually relatively young. Was it stormfront where it turned out a bunch of users were like 13?

I guess it stands as a explanation for the immaturity of the political right in your country, but then I suppose it just stems from fear due to a lack of understanding.

nate beeler and william warren are both in their twenties iirc

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haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
where is the giant super ultra combo parody comic with the illegal immigrant and the woman pregnant with socialism and ted kennedy driving a car off a bridge and health care and obama smoking and a dozen other things

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



heres some more new stuff





















that's locher's obama caricature speaking













Kringlebert
Apr 26, 2008

Got that big stick
i'm looking through gary varvel's stuff and most of it is just really bland compared to the rest of the stuff we've seen. you can probably remove him from the op without consequence, especially if you're adding a bunch of stuff

Whilst farting I
Apr 25, 2006

bad artists master list:

Mike Adams (Counterthink)
Eric Allie
Chuck Asay (1 broken image)
Joel Barbee (a lot of people posted some of his stuff, thanks to all of you!)
Lisa Benson
Chip Bok (thanks to Kringlebert!)
Daryl Cagle (thanks to More Brains!)
Gordon Campbell
Clay Jones
Brian Fairrington (thanks to More Brains - he did have some good ones but is overwhelmingly awful. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3044829&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1371#post370268708 very comprehensive work here, i'll link to that post under the comics i include since it's all his 2009 stuff :))
Glenn Foden (2 broken images)
Bob Lang (thanks to Crumbunist!)
Mike Lester (1.5 from 2009: rush limbaugh being marched to wherever with the "real racism" on the escort's armbands, along with the replacement to show how abhorrent the original was and how even he realized it was over the line)
Joe Liccar
Gary McCoy (thanks to Crumbunist!)
Glenn McCoy (3 from 2009: both versions of race-baiting rent-a-cops, "stop the bus, i want to get off")
Stephanie McMillan (thanks to More Brains!)
Brett Noel (thanks to tacodaemon!)
Henry Payne (thanks to Prokhor Zakharov!)
Ted Rall
Michael Ramirez
John Rule
Scott Stantis (2 broken images)
Wayne Stayskal (thanks to Prokhor Zakharov!)
Bruce Tinsley (thanks to tacodaemon!)

good artists master list:

Ruben Bolling
Deep Hurting
Dwayne Booth/Mr. Fish
Get Your War On
David Horsey
Tim Kreider
Brian McFadden (Big Fat Whale)
Steve Sack
Zina Saunders (thanks to More Brains!
Ward Sutton (Kelly)

here's where i'm at now

1.) replacement comics: gettin close!

2.) new artists:

bad:
Nate Beeler
Dry Bones
Catalino (have that post bookmarked)
Toby Dials
Gorrel
Locher
John Rose
William Warren



good:
Pat Bagley
Clay Bennett

Pat Oliphant (see bottom of post)
Mike Peters

3.) blurbs: will just italicize their names and stick a note at the top

4.) the BAR BEE question: don't know? at this point will probably have what i had for this year's OP plus diversity lane and maybe day by day. i don't currently have enough material to do web-only

-John Bergstrom, attackcartoons.com (thanks to Prokhor Zakharov! http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3044829&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1371#post370264667)

5.) image hosting:

-tinypic
-waffleimages
-kimages

6.) parodies: got some now! i wasn't sure in which year those were initially posted but now they're confirmed from 2009

got stuff from

-Neeksy
-SexyBlindfold
-Uncle Marx

MISCELLANEOUS STUFF
-what to do about oliphant's occasional slip into BILL COSBY IS RIGHT :krakken:

7.) removing artists:

remove these artists?

Mike Lukovich
Mike Thompson
Gary Varvel

haveblue posted:

where is the giant super ultra combo parody comic with the illegal immigrant and the woman pregnant with socialism and ted kennedy driving a car off a bridge and health care and obama smoking and a dozen other things

i should have all parodies from the first 3/4 of the year. i might rar it and upload it to megaupload or something but still showcase some of the most prominent stuff in the OP (like what has been posted in the past few pages)

Whilst farting I fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Dec 28, 2009

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


tacodaemon posted:

heres some more new stuff



what the gently caress is this a reference to beck on time magazine? Wasn't that a puff piece or a huge sloppy blowjob of an article?

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

tacodaemon posted:



Wasn't that Jimmy Carter's gimmick?

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.

tacodaemon posted:

heres some more new stuff



Is it wrong of me to say that in a world where this was true it would be funny?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

tacodaemon posted:



Oh those Democrats. Always impeaching sitting presidents for pointless reasons. How crazy, amirite?

MacBook Air Gamer
May 6, 2007

Here I go, deep type flow.
Jacques Cousteau could never get this low.

tacodaemon posted:






Actually if Bush said that it would have just been another line of text in one of those "Bush-isms" books collecting dust on a barnes&noble's shelf and he'd have gotten re-elected for a third term probably.

Super Saiyan Mr. T
Nov 7, 2009

I pity the FOOOOOOOOL!

tacodaemon posted:





Do these loving people ever do anything except lounge around in underwear, get dressed after a shower or carry babies around? For super-bootstraps conservatives they sure as gently caress don't seem to get a lot of work done at a job.

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!

tacodaemon posted:

heres some more new stuff




It took Bruce Tinsley an entire year to come up with this joke

Kringlebert
Apr 26, 2008

Got that big stick
Pick your favorite from Scott Stantis, although he's another one who's only mildly terrible in general





More Brains
Sep 5, 2007
Send... more... paramedics.
Daryl Cagle - In three parts

Bears!

















Old People!











Daryl Cagle and the horrible unfunny running joke

Heliotrope
Aug 17, 2007

You're fucking subhuman

haveblue posted:

where is the giant super ultra combo parody comic with the illegal immigrant and the woman pregnant with socialism and ted kennedy driving a car off a bridge and health care and obama smoking and a dozen other things

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Swine flu. A giant pig tattooed with the word PORK sits is a field, chewing languidly. A pack of dogs gnaw on its flank. They are OBAMA'S MEDIA LAPDOGS, and their alpha dog is BO the Portuguese water dog, who wears a shirt embroidered with the title 'Chappaquiddick Life Guard'.

BO is so distracted by the pork that he ignores a car being driven into a nearby river. The driver is Ted Kennedy, who is labeled UNIONS alongside a dead woman labelled TAXPAYERS. The car is labeled U.S. AUTO COMPANIES.

Inside the woman's belly, a black fetus gives an eloquent speech about how he deserves education vouchers for private school. But he is hit in the head by a baseball player jacked up on steroids. The baseball player's sombrero is labeled MEXICAN DRUG VIOLENCE. The bloodied bat is PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION. The 'roided Mexican yells "What do you think this is, senor? A free market?" He is wearing a Che Guevara shirt. The fetus is labeled CAPITALISM. The Mexican's ears are huge. It's Barack Obama.

We see that the Mexican came through a hole in the border wall labeled HOMELAND SECURITY. The detonator wire leads to the hand of a terrorist, whose name-tag says NAPOLITANO.

At the bottom of the image, the caption reads "Napolitano refuses to close the border to prevent swine flu."

And then nidpants drew this:

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

tacodaemon posted:


Those terrorists, always so petulant.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
so I was wrong about everything except ted kennedy but that is still amazing

fanaglethebagle
Sep 5, 2007

by angerbot

Mr. Heliotrope posted:

And then nidpants drew this:



fuuuuuck

Kringlebert
Apr 26, 2008

Got that big stick

Mr. Heliotrope posted:

And then nidpants drew this:



holy moley

Whilst farting I
Apr 25, 2006

megacondensed progress update, including only immediately important parts to which you can contribute:

1.) replacement comics: gettin close!

bad artists master list:

Mike Adams (Counterthink)
Eric Allie
Chuck Asay (1 broken image)
Joel Barbee (a lot of people posted some of his stuff, thanks to all of you!)
Lisa Benson
Chip Bok (thanks to Kringlebert!)
Daryl Cagle (thanks to More Brains!)
Gordon Campbell (thanks to tacodaemon and Kringlebert!)
Clay Jones
Brian Fairrington (thanks to More Brains - he did have some good ones but is overwhelmingly awful. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3044829&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1371#post370268708 very comprehensive work here, i'll link to that post under the comics i include since it's all his 2009 stuff :))
Glenn Foden (2 broken images)
Bob Lang (thanks to Crumbunist!)
Mike Lester (1.5 from 2009: rush limbaugh being marched to wherever with the "real racism" on the escort's armbands, along with the replacement to show how abhorrent the original was and how even he realized it was over the line)
Joe Liccar
Gary McCoy (thanks to Crumbunist!)
Glenn McCoy (3 from 2009: both versions of race-baiting rent-a-cops, "stop the bus, i want to get off")
Stephanie McMillan (thanks to More Brains!)
Brett Noel (thanks to tacodaemon!)
Henry Payne (thanks to Prokhor Zakharov!)
Ted Rall
Michael Ramirez
John Rule
Scott Stantis (thanks to Kringlebert!)
Wayne Stayskal (thanks to Prokhor Zakharov!)
Bruce Tinsley (thanks to tacodaemon!)

good artists master list:

Ruben Bolling
Deep Hurting
Dwayne Booth/Mr. Fish
Get Your War On
David Horsey
Tim Kreider
Brian McFadden (Big Fat Whale)
Steve Sack
Zina Saunders (thanks to More Brains!
Ward Sutton (Kelly)

2.) new artists:

bad:
Nate Beeler
Ken Catalino
Toby Dials
Bob Gorrel
Dick Locher
John Rose
William Warren


good:
Pat Bagley
Clay Bennett

Pat Oliphant (see bottom of post)
Mike Peters

4.) the DAY BY DAY question: do we include web-based material? if so, do we stick to hand-drawn strips, or extend it to photoshop disasters like iowntheworld?

John Bergstrom, attackcartoons.com (thanks to Prokhor Zakharov! http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3044829&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1371#post370264667)
Day By Day
Diversity Lane
Dry Bones
RedPlanetCartoons
Right-Left-Center

MISCELLANEOUS STUFF
what to do about oliphant's occasional slip into BILL COSBY IS RIGHT :krakken:

7.) removing artists:

remove these artists?

Mike Lukovich
Scott Stantis
Mike Thompson
Gary Varvel


those are the 4 most pressing issues of the moment, but i'd say easily the biggest one is:

do we include day-by-day? if so, how do we include it? what is our metric for inclusion, and if day-by-day fits, why would diversity lane not also fit?

i remember in the last thread there was a big stink about whether or not to include right-left-center and the consensus was no, but web-based material is more prominent this time around

sidenote: that nidpants piece is fantastic, i'll be sure to include that and some stuff by mr.butts (a very infrequent contributor of original artwork whose stuff also happens to wildly own)

Whilst farting I fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Dec 29, 2009

CrumFUNist!
Nov 27, 2005

Ken Catalino









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Heliotrope
Aug 17, 2007

You're fucking subhuman

Whilst farting I posted:

i remember in the last thread there was a big stink about whether or not to include right-left-center and the consensus was no, but web-based material is more prominent this time around

I think it was Electronic Tigers that people were talking about since it was mainly a gaming comic that went into politics occasionally.

Darth Goku Jr
Oct 19, 2004

yes yes i see, i understand
:wal::respek::stat:
lukovich: stays

Whilst farting I
Apr 25, 2006

thanks, Crumbunist - i'll also be linking to Robot Hobo's huge megapost about Catalino (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3044829&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=903#post364553677) for more backup on how bad he is

also Robot Hobo: i noticed that's your own hosting in that post, if i link to that post in the OP will that like shoot you over any kind of bandwidth limit? the images wouldn't be linked, it'd be like a (more) link i have in the OP now

and i forgot the reason there was such a huge stink was because it was electronic tigers, not RLC :doh:

so if we include day-by-day, what else do we include, and how do we include it?

also i need to know which strips you want to appear - choose like 5-8 strips from whenever, you can keep the ones you have now as is or replace them all, etc, i just wanna know which ones you want to be there and when they're from doesn't matter

Whilst farting I fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Dec 29, 2009

Kringlebert
Apr 26, 2008

Got that big stick
Gordon Campbell







Malachamavet
Jan 12, 2009

Above the gigantic mouth is an eye as big as a shield that stares at you with pure hate

Kringlebert posted:


best dickchin

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

CrumFUNist! posted:

William Warren


Remember when Michelle Bachmann was very seriously wanting to start up a committee to root out people acting unamerican, when "unamerican" meant "liberal talking points"

nah, that was last year, so it never happened.

CrumFUNist!
Nov 27, 2005

none of the cartoonists should be removed

Rick Kollinger









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Yogi Love









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Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

CrumFUNist! posted:



Is...is that a halo?

high hopes
Jan 22, 2008
why does democrat - 2007 look like he is from 1992

CrumFUNist!
Nov 27, 2005

high hopes posted:

why does democrat - 2007 look like he is from 1992

he used to be the lead singer for the spin doctors

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

Kringlebert posted:

Gordon Campbell









Master of Google image search.

what is this
Sep 11, 2001

it is a lemur

CrumFUNist! posted:

William Warren









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I sat next to him senior year in high school.

Even then he was doing retarded political cartoons. He's a rich white upperclass gently caress, but what do you expect?

Whilst farting I
Apr 25, 2006

CrumFUNist! posted:

none of the cartoonists should be removed

Rick Kollinger









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Yogi Love









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i do want to include as many cartoonists as possible, but i'm at a point where the OP is becoming saturated with less terrible artists - the huge offenders (lester, mccoys, asay, ramirez) are the most widely syndicated. usually, smalltimers like catalino and kollinger aren't even close to being as bad. to include them in the same breath as "Open The Blood Gates!" lessens the impact of seeing that kind of stuff for the first time. if you're going straight from allie to asay to (lisa) bennett, you can see quite clearly how horrible things are. but if you throw in a bunch of small-timers who don't have nearly as large of an audience, it just becomes a chore to wade through, and things don't seem as bad.

if i'm not going to remove any artists, there needs to be a hierarchical system that's not confusing, has clearly defined parameters so artists can be easily categorized. i'd like to make the gallery of shame display the absolute worst of the worst, while having the good cartoonist section (i wish there was a less lame matching name than "Gallery of Fame") display the best of the best. the bare-bones worst offenders. then include the lesser offenders later.

btw i do appreciate all the work you've been doing, especially formatting them exactly the way the OP has it - i just want all this info to be organized in a manner that would hold somebody's attention, where the most important info gets out first to clearly get across the message.

what would everybody think of this setup?

1. General Links // Gallery of shame (National Syndication or Worst of the Worst)
2. Good cartoonists (National Syndication or Best of the Best) // Walk The Line (horsey, bagley, oliphant? allie? cartoonists who make significant enough contributions outside of their normal categorization to be noteworthy)
3. Commonly requested comics // Parodies // Photoshop projects
4. Partial syndication galleries // Internet-only strips // Internet-only photoshops

this way, immediately important information is the most accessible, and all other data is accounted for and presented in a manner that wouldn't interfere with reading straight through the core info

all the most interesting and crucial stuff first, with other notable stuff at the end, so as not to interrupt the flow of the basics

i want to include all these artists, they're posted so often it'd be stupid not to, but it needs to be done in a way that won't detract from a quick delivery of "wow look at how loving horrible this is"

Whilst farting I fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Dec 29, 2009

CrumFUNist!
Nov 27, 2005

Rob Smith, Jr.











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Whilst farting I posted:

i do want to include as many cartoonists as possible, but i'm at a point where the OP is becoming saturated with less terrible artists - the huge offenders (lester, mccoys, asay, ramirez) are the most widely syndicated. usually, smalltimers like catalino and kollinger aren't even close to being as bad. to include them in the same breath as "Open The Blood Gates!" lessens the impact of seeing that kind of stuff for the first time. if you're going straight from allie to asay to (lisa) bennett, you can see quite clearly how horrible things are. but if you throw in a bunch of small-timers who don't have nearly as large of an audience, it just becomes a chore to wade through, and things don't seem as bad.

i dunno, i think the UHC=slavery cartoon is really terrible

but yeah the tiered cartoonist system seems to be good

CrumFUNist! fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Dec 29, 2009

More Brains
Sep 5, 2007
Send... more... paramedics.
Oliphant is a good cartoonist, he just goes crazy once in a while. The opposite of a broken clock or some poo poo. Other then that I think Asay, The McCoys, and the one guy who always does the drunk bubbles over evil people are some of the top tiered horrible people.

Mike Luckovich






:gonk:


I am going to kill you Mike Luckovich







CrumFUNist!
Nov 27, 2005

the web-only stuff like Day by Day and Diversity Lane should be a separate section

Zack Rawsthorne











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Caucasus Belli
Jun 6, 2007

by T. Finn

Kringlebert posted:


SexyBlindfold posted:

shotgunbadger
Nov 18, 2008

WEEK 4 - RETIRED

Caucasus Belli posted:



good job linking the parody to the original.

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JHUGAMEDAY
Oct 21, 2008

CrumFUNist! posted:







I forgot how truly awful this one is; the covered text is such a joke.