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JustWalkedIn posted:Long time reader, first time poster. that looks fun im on it
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I'm back, still pushing my cross-genre ideas. Tried to calm the mixing down a bit more this time, and use more tip/hip-hop stuff. Sum of the Beats - 1:01:26 http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/71572/STRANGERSONG/Sum%20of%20the%20Beats.mp3 Do You Feel It? - Young Black Preachers Session Two - Free The Robots Enter The Newground - DJ Kentaro Ketto - Bonobo Gelndale Galleria - Flying Lotus Voices From The Night - Late Acid Bells (Matryn's Bittersweet Mix) - EFDEMIN Original Nuttah - UK Apachi & Shy FX Something To Hide - D-Bridge Twenty Three - Four Tet Choppin Lambs - Enduser Kemistry - Metalheads Under Mi Sensi - Project X Breathe (Susumu Yokota Remix) - The Cinematic Orchestra Miracles - Strakey Loro - Adem Dubran Poison - Babylon Timewarp Pendulum - Rustie Goat Stare - Loefah CCTV (ft. Dandelion) - LV Moth - Burial & Four Tet Port-Au-Prince - Deadbeat In System Travel - Jamie Vex'd Meditate - Arts The Beat Doctor Rickshaw - Flying Lotus Red Lights - Manray Orszula (Stranger Song Remix) - Jacaszek
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awesome sets, I always love being able to go through all these mixes and tracks. Threatis, Rivfader, jonmitz, actionjackson, tylerfb, always always awesome stuff. I have not been here in a couple weeks so I have a lot of sets to go through. Keep it up! starting it off with Threatis mix - Boogie Howsers mix (showdown). The intro is just awesome, cant wait to hear the rest. cooolllll fucked around with this message at 07:09 on May 26, 2009 |
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"moth" is already the tune of the summer for me, every time i listen to it i hear it in my head for hours after
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JustWalkedIn posted:Long time reader, first time poster. Alright JustWalkedIn, you're on the chopping block today! One thing right off the bat is while you picked a series of tight tracks, it's primarily just that as far as the mix goes. It has a feeling of anthem after anthem with no overall flow to the set. For a fun party no one will care, but when it comes to something bigger, having some sort of overall feel to the set where it feels more like a composition rather than just "hey these are people's favorites currently" really speaks volumes. It was a little jumpy but all right at the beginning, then it kinda went all over the place in the middle, and then the last few tracks were really solid. I'd aim more for doing what you did for the last 4 tracks as that seemed to be when you were most on your game. 1st transition: This kinda caught me by surprise. Actually since it's Ableton I should have expected this to start out pretty slick, but yea, this transition worked surprisingly well! Definitely two songs I would have not expected to flow that well, but how you did it seemed to work right. 2nd transition: Nicely lined up, I think Turbo Love could have been extended significantly longer though for the transition. It just seemed like a simple crossfade, and Love To Push It has a pretty long lead-in so use all of it to keep the mix at a strong high. 3rd transition: nicely faded in, the tracks complemented each other pretty well, though it was kind of a funny jump going from something like Crookers to something more 80s sounding. 4th transition: Whoops! Kind of a wreck there. You already know about it though so I'll leave it at that. 5th transition: These tracks worked nicely together for transition. Transition felt just the right length, no problems here. 6th transition: Wow, this sounded like quite the jump. These two tracks did NOT go well together, at least at the point you brought in It's That Beat. Just sounded like too much clutter and clash. If the track has more of a leadin before where you brought it in, use that and it'd be fine as these tracks COULD work well together provided you can get it with less of the vocals and melody in there. 7th transition: Some issues with the beatmatching right off the start, a bit of clash still with It's That Beat. Also felt too much like just a sloooow crossfade. Also Aerius Light was just too quiet comparatively (especially with how loud and intense the set has been so far). Make sure to get the gain about right between tracks so one doesn't overpower the other. 8th transition: WHOA. Mega gain level issues, sounded like a crossfade iTunes would do, songs don't work together well at all. This set probably would have benefitted to not having Aerius Light in it. 9th transition: Kind of a sudden drop in, felt like the track was just dropped in the middle of a phrase. Playing off the drop in On The Floor was pretty nice though. 10th transition: Sounded like it was going to be a pretty nice and smooth transition, then you suddenly just cut out On The Floor. You can reeeeaaaally blend out some nice and long transitions with Ableton, take advantage of it! I'm not sure what's going on with Way Out West vs. La Tour - People Are Still Out West. That's one cracked out mashup. 11th transition: A bit better of a transition. More gradual, though WTF is a little overpowering. Really watch the gain on tracks since you have a ton of control with Ableton. Also, those two tracks were a MASSIVE jump in sound. You're going from progressive to fidget. Those don't play together well. 12th transition: Beatmatched pretty well, use more of those lead in/outs though. Really play with the tracks since you have the capability to, don't just crossfade it. Take elements of the different EQ levels and do gradual blends into each other to make them sound like solid transitions so the mix just flows together. 13th transition: Bring those tracks in RIGHT on the start of those leadouts. There was a whole measure or two there of My Neck, My Back's leadout before you brought I'm In Miami Bitch in. 14th transition: Phrasing and beatmatching issues here. A lot of how it could be fixed has been mentioned already. 15th transition: Beatmatch is a touch off, other than that a good drop in of Farewell To The Fairground. In fact, aside from the beats being not perfectly lined up, your transitions should more or less sound more like this one. Get to a point where you can do this transition with every track in a set, and then go from there and start getting fancy. The most important thing to a solid mix is solid blends. 16th transition: And then you did another good one! This was a good quick transition. Just make sure you're dropping that next track at the beginning of a phrase on the previous track. 17th transition: I can't tell whether I liked this transition or not. On one side, it feels like you jumped the gun on moving to the next track. On the other hand, it was a pretty solid quick transition. It works well, Maybe try doing this exact same transition a bit later and then see if it sounded better. Overall, there's some major technical issues to work with on the set. So many of the transitions feel randomly dropped in with little thought to flow. Many of these tracks have leads at the beginnings/ends that allow for mixing together. Get them lined-up phrase-wise, and start the next track RIGHT on the first beat of that leadout, using the first beat of that lead-in. Get good at counting out measures, that will really help you as well. If you're just by yourself practicing there is no harm in counting out 'one-two-three-four two-two-three-four...' to help you understand where phrases in songs are, and help you get comfortable with knowing your tracks. Also watch your gain. Ableton gives you a lot of control in levels, and you should definitely take advantage of it. If you plan on getting really into mixing, invest into a MIDI controller that's supported with Ableton so you have a lot more control. As stated in the transiton-by-transition part, do a set where all of the transitions are more or less like the 15th one. Record a whole set blending the lead-ins/lead-outs like that, make the transitions about 32-64 transitions long, doing the blends using primarily the channel volumes and the EQ bands, and then post the mix, and then I'll check them to see where you're at as far as getting them lined up and blended properly. Hopefully this makes sense, I'm a little loopy at the moment due to lack of Xanax in my system so if anything needs clarification ask and I'll be glad to help. Ian, I'll hit up yours tomorrow. Meant to get two in today but I had a doctor's appointment. I'm excited to hear how you've improved.  As an aside, are people fine with the length of these? I'm trying to get as much in each writeup to help out as much as possible, but I don't want to end up pissing people off with massive walls of text. Critique the critiques I guess! SixOhSix fucked around with this message at 22:14 on May 26, 2009 |
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SixOhSix posted:
Longer is good. Wish everybody put this much effort into critiques. Getting detailed, honest criticism is such a difficult thing as an artist (or I guess for dj's an "artist") that anybody who gets a reaction should be very greatful
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Holy gently caress, thank you for the tremendous breakdown. The amount of detail shown is fantastic and easily helps me to see what is what. Many many many thanks, I'll be sure to PM you any additional questions I have.
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JustWalkedIn posted:Holy gently caress, thank you for the tremendous breakdown. The amount of detail shown is fantastic and easily helps me to see what is what. Many many many thanks, I'll be sure to PM you any additional questions I have. No PM sadly, so I guess fire any questions to dj.psysix@gmail.com I forgot my laptop's power adaptor at home, but I'm still going to try and get at least one critique done today on this dilapidated work computer (since at this rate that's about all it looks like it can do). SixOhSix fucked around with this message at 15:31 on May 27, 2009 |
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Alright IanTheM, time to check out your second mix. Wow, first I’d like to say there’s definite improvement here. It really sounds like you took suggestions to heart and worked at them, making them your own. I definitely felt myself getting lost in the mix, and was making it challenging to detect where transitions were happening. This is a good thing, because it means the flow is coming along naturally. At the rate you’re going, you’re really going to be great at mixing multiple genres in creating one sensation. (Warning: with a lot of transitions going on in this mix, this is BIG.) 1st transition: A little cluttered of a first transition due to Session Two’s rhythm, but I can definitely feel where it’s going. I already see you’re following the gradual tempo changes within the transition, that’s awesome. 2nd transition: A little cluttered again, but I do kinda like the feeling of it. Blend could have gone maaaybe a bit longer, but I don’t know how much of a lead-in you had to work with on Enter the Newground. In the end, I’m definitely seeing improvement in your skill. 3rd transition: Wow, talk about switching things up quickly and slyly. You’re really starting to get this. A touch more work maybe on the beatmatching, but this transition definitely caught me by surprise. 4th transition: Felt a little collaged and could be lined up better. It’s coming along though. You’re changing the tempo of the tracks while doing the blends which is something that can easily trip me up even, but you’re getting it. 5th transition: Some lineup issues here. Most likely going to be just a tough transition since it’s doing a tricky style jump. 6th transition: Very nice transition, held the blend for a good length and it felt right. 7th transition: I was really waiting to see how you were gonna do this, it seemed like it’d be one hell of a jump. Not bad, I would have maybe kept the transition going all the way to the drop, but it sounds like you went all the way to the end of Acid Bells. If you’re on a digital program, then maybe loop the last measure or two to keep it going, otherwise no real way to fix that, otherwise, great. 8th transition: Wow, I like how this one slowly leads in, and then the rhythm drops in at JUST the right point there. When that backspin happens in Original Nuttah, drop the other track as well just to really add some fanciness to the sound, then bring it in right with the drop. Also, Original Nuttah seems like an odd selection at this spot compared to all the tracks around it. Otherwise, GREAT gradual transition, you’re really getting it now. 9th transition: This one was pretty sketchy. Though I’m really not sure how you could mix in that spot anyways. Incoming track came in a little too loud compared to previous tracks. I would have maybe tried starting the transition when the windchimes are dropped out, just because they make it a bit of a mess in being able to line up. 10th transition: Once again, great improvement in changing the tempo with the transitions. This transition was pretty fast, but I think it worked for the blend. I did like the feeling of Twenty Three working as a transitional piece. Choppin Lambs always hits me hard. Love it. 11th transition: Some lineup issues here, might not have been the best track to jump to from Choppin Lambs, though from the sounds of it, you kind of noticed it was coming in a little messy as well. That’s just going to a jump that’s a little hard between those tracks. Maybe use something a little more dubstep between the two to ease up to that speed. 12th transition: Could be a little better, but could be a lot worse. Maybe find a way to blend these two tracks a little longer since the change felt a little sudden. 13th transition: This was kind of nice; I like how the tone from Breathe comes in there. In the end it felt a bit too much of just a simple crossfade, maybe find a way to keep just the rhythm of Under Mi Sensi going up until Breathe’s rhythm comes in. Some of these improvements would be really challenging to pull off though unless you’re using something like Traktor where you can jump to set cues and loops in the tracks to get the right segments. 14th transition: Gonna admit at this point, I got completely thrown off. Okay, some slight lineup issues here, but man, these tracks blend WELL. 15th transition: Okay, I THINK this is Miracles and Loro. You did one hell of a job switching things up quickly and getting me to miss transitions, definite kudos on that. 16th transition: Really liked this transition. I think this was a transition. Okay, I’m massively lost. 17th transition: Okay, pretty certain this is Pendulum now. Gotta say, this stuff’s been pretty smooth because I had to keep listening to figure out where the transitions were really at. I’d almost like to do this section of the mix over something like Skype so I can tell exactly what’s what to make sure I’m discussing the right transitions. 18th transition: Nice speedup into the next track, very great flow here. I think I’m back on track. 19th transition: Lineup issues here. Kicks started off to a point where it sounded like a heartbeat, but then you tried to get it lined up a bit better. This one could have been great if you could have just gotten it beatmatched spot-on. I definitely know where I’m at now, because I’m on CCTV. 20th transition: Not sure what happened there. Sounds like it trainwrecked due to the tracks not running at the same tempo. It sounds like there was an effort to get it right, but you couldn’t get it fixed. 21st transition: This one just felt like a sudden switch to the next track more than anything else. Really try to stay away from this sort of thing. 22nd transition: Nice play off the drop in rhythm, great phrase lineup from it. Sounds like there was some tempo difference issues between the tracks though. 23rd transition: A bit of a trainwreck here. Seemed like one track just jumped in over another with no regard to lining up, blending, or gain. 24th transition: I liked the speeding up, but it was a little too fast and sudden, make it a tad more gradual so it feels natural. Also, blend the tracks during that tempo increase rather than just switch them. 25th transition: I think this was a transition? It sort of just became another track. Blend them; don’t just jump to another song. Your audience is now standing around confused. 26th transition: This one was a real problem. You let the leadout of Red Lights run for a long time, then the next track just sort of jumped in not beatmatched at all. Get the tempo matched with Orzula, then drop it in right at the beginning of Red Lights’ leadout phrase with where the thythm starts in Orzula, and run them together till the rhythm drops out for a bit later on in Orzula. That should work a TON better. Overall, definite improvement is being shown. Some of the fast mixing is actually working to make the set this time around, and at the same time you’re using gradual transitions as well to show variety in the blends. The only big thing is near the end it started to sound like you just wanted to get through all the tracks and fell into just switching rather than doing solid transitions. Not certain if it’s because you were just trying to get it wrapped up or if you wanted to get all of these exact songs in one hour and felt rushed near the end. If you are keeping to a time and are looking a little long, just figure out what you can remove song-wise. At this point, the key thing is to keep practicing to continue improving, also work on just seeing what tracks blend better with others. The next goal is to get a whole set with no beatmatching or tempo issues, then start working on getting fancier with the blends and getting more technical on set structure and flow. Otherwise, this is a fantastic improvement over the first mix. SixOhSix fucked around with this message at 18:10 on May 27, 2009 |
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I've been running my mouth on here long enough, so here is a small clip of my new promo cd.... it's all fidget/electro stuff, this is only 40 minutes. Almost every second there are at least two tracks running (YES, even at the VERY beginning with the 4 square stomper), and I'm open to anyone's input on the overall shape. It's a VERY rough cut with absolutely no mixdown done yet, just beatsmashing, so bare with me. I'm trying to make the big move from local dj to traveling and doing bigger shows, so any input is appreciated. Let me know if this is something that will move your rear end on a dancefloor, and if you can find all the seams. I used the same track over it's self in some cases in order to obtain a certain sound... tracklist: bassjackers - enowapi wango - everyday i mad kids - take it back Chris James and Lee Dearn - the concept of dancing Tragic Magic - tear up london 2 bit thugs - jumpin lady sov. - got u dancin shab ruffcut and tee ski - jack da ripper prztz - nutdisco mightyfools - amsterdam stupid bastard - bisexual bitches the body snatchers featuring goldmouf - i like what i see ...and some junk thrown in for sound... The end track just leads out, I haven't worked beyond it, and really only worked on the intro to the body snatchers track. It's new after an hour or so this morning... so if you heard the old link check the new one. COMMENTS VERY WELCOME!!! http://www.zshare.net/audio/60634005757549e7/ Tribal Rival fucked around with this message at 16:16 on May 28, 2009 |
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SixOhSix posted:Overall, definite improvement is being shown. Some of the fast mixing is actually working to make the set this time around, and at the same time you’re using gradual transitions as well to show variety in the blends. The only big thing is near the end it started to sound like you just wanted to get through all the tracks and fell into just switching rather than doing solid transitions. Not certain if it’s because you were just trying to get it wrapped up or if you wanted to get all of these exact songs in one hour and felt rushed near the end. If you are keeping to a time and are looking a little long, just figure out what you can remove song-wise. At this point, the key thing is to keep practicing to continue improving, also work on just seeing what tracks blend better with others. The next goal is to get a whole set with no beatmatching or tempo issues, then start working on getting fancier with the blends and getting more technical on set structure and flow. Otherwise, this is a fantastic improvement over the first mix. Thanks for this, your first little review definitely encouraged me to try harder, and at least prove myself as I could really feel my ideas coming in better during the second half of my last mix, so I wanted to pursue that feel. I have to admit, don't be impressed by any beat matching or tempo changes. I just play around with Ableton and my MIDI controller testing out any weird poo poo I feel might work, and sometimes it's warped wrong and just doesn't. The quick mixing and cross-genrelism is mostly to exploit the advantage I have because of this, on top of having an eclectic music collection to draw from. The little section you're confused about starts with me mixing that ambient track: Breathe, into Miracles. I let it run for a bit and the just Miracles plays until I take this cool little acoustic song called Loro, pitch it up and let the guitar part and voice mix in with the synths. Then Loro goes out and I mix the end of Miracles into that Babylon Timewarp track.
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IanTheM posted:Thanks for this, your first little review definitely encouraged me to try harder, and at least prove myself as I could really feel my ideas coming in better during the second half of my last mix, so I wanted to pursue that feel. I have to admit, don't be impressed by any beat matching or tempo changes. I just play around with Ableton and my MIDI controller testing out any weird poo poo I feel might work, and sometimes it's warped wrong and just doesn't. The quick mixing and cross-genrelism is mostly to exploit the advantage I have because of this, on top of having an eclectic music collection to draw from. Playing around is how it all starts out. I got my start goofing around with Virtual DJ using mouse/keyboard, and now I'm going to be mixing at a pretty big event in Cincinatti in July, as well as looking at possibilities of mixing at DEMF next year. Part of getting good as well is trying things and figuring out what works and what doesn't. Four years of mixing darkpsy and one year of electro, and I still run into tracks that no matter what I do just won't work. In fact, the darkpsy mix I posted earlier in the thread shows that even though I point out as much as possible in mixes, I occasionally need to work on what I point out as well (there's a pretty sketchy baetmatch in one of the transitions for example). Definitely keep playing around and trying things, if anything that's what you really should do as you'll improve from experience and you'll also develop your own style in mixing. Hell, as far as style goes you practically have. Making this much effort and improvement jumping through different genres is no easy feat. IanTheM posted:The little section you're confused about starts with me mixing that ambient track: Breathe, into Miracles. I let it run for a bit and the just Miracles plays until I take this cool little acoustic song called Loro, pitch it up and let the guitar part and voice mix in with the synths. Then Loro goes out and I mix the end of Miracles into that Babylon Timewarp track. Yea, I eventually got an idea of what was going on after a few listens of the section. I REALLY liked how things were flowing here. This is where the capablities you have really started to shine through the most. I'm glad the writeups are pushing you to try harder. That really is the main purpose of what I'm doing, and I'm especially happy how well it's been received so far. I really don't expect perfection to come from any of it, in fact as I said I'm nowhere near perfect either, nor are the greatest. Carl Cox, after all these years, can still be seen at points on the stage counting out the beats of tracks. If everyone did mix truly perfect, it would just sound too mechanical. So don't think that I'm saying "you need to do this to be perfect" with these, they're more a framework of ideas for where I think there's possible room for improvement.
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Sixohsix, you dont like dubstep?  thats ok nobody else does either
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Terrible Horse posted:Sixohsix, you dont like dubstep? Hey, I do. But then again I live in England.
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Terrible Horse posted:Sixohsix, you dont like dubstep? What are you talking about? I love it! Plus, don't freak I'm checking your mix today. 
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Work at work? Man, that's no fun. Anyways, as hard as angry clients tried to foil it, you have not been forgotten Terrible Horse! Due to the amount of transitions and the length of the mix, I'm not going to do a blend-by-blend breakdown, but I'll go really in-depth on standout points notating the approximate time. First off, the overall flow is good. Especially the start and end, great track selections there. This is a mix that actually benefited from going song to song quickly on occasion, because the transitions tended to be real gradual, and allowed for a lot of leading one song to the other. The importance of your blends being really gradual for this is when doing a set so mellow, any slightly sudden jumps in songs can be really startling. One thing to watch with doing gradual transitions though, is to make sure it isn't just slowly sliding the crossfader. Make use of the EQ bands to give more natural progression with gradually switching elements like the highs and bass. It does sound like you're making use of this, just that there are occasional blends where they sound more just faded in comparison. The set overall has a great feeling of flow and structure. That said, there were a few tracks that kind of stuck out a bit. The biggest sore thumb was 'Nelly Furtado ft. Timbaland – Promiscuous (Flying Lotus Remix)'. It felt kind of shoved in there, especially when the tracks around it would have melded together real well without Promiscuous in there. Around 35 minutes, the rhythm seemed to really pick up suddenly. Maybe a bit more of a gradual work up through track selection would have made it a bit less abrupt, just being pretty picky at this point. Minute 57 seemed to have an odd change in tempo that felt a bit off, maybe if there was a difference in tempo between tracks it would have been better to do a gradual increase in speed rather than a jump. The switch to a more techno style after the hour mark actually felt pretty natural, and I eventually realized "oh, this is a more square beat now!" so that is a definite plus to the flow. The transition at 1:22:00-1:23:20 had some mild dissonance, though due to the nature of the tracks not sure how well it could be fixed by changing the key. My only overall issue with flow in the end is the more intense dubstep in the middle of the set. If it was the more chill dubstep into the mellow techno, the structure would have been absolutely fantastic and probably would have put the set at around 1 hour. Overall, beatmatching was pretty good. There were a few transitions that didn't quite lineup, that's just gonna be a matter of practice primarily. The tracks that seemed to give you the most trouble were ones that had more complex rhythms going on. It's probably just a matter of making sure you get that primary kick picked out from the rest of the percussion to line them up a bit easier. At about 16:30-18:10, it seemed to really collapse for a while, till you got back on track. Not certain what exactly was happening there, but it really did sound like a giant mess. The transition that went ~45:30-46:30 seemed a little too much like a very basic crossfade, and the tracks didn't seem like they fit the best. 59:22 saw some lineup problems as well, seemed once again due to the amount of rhythm going on, you did seem to get it lined up as it went though. 1:25:30, not really sure what happened there, but woah. Sudden jump that did not sound good. Gain seemed balanced overall. The only thing to watch for here is on occasion you would have a track come in significantly louder which made the blend more obvious and sudden. At about 30 minutes, it seems to suddenly get louder, which was kind of startling. If this stayed more the same volume, it would probably make the increase in pace as the mix goes on feel more gradual. At 1 hour, the same issue of the incoming track being louder than the previous one came up again. All in all, a relatively solid mix. I liked a majority of the track selection, and there's some definite thought and skill behind the whole thing. Watch your gain on occasion, keep improving on beatmatching, and take note of tracks that may seem out of place in the overall picture and you're golden.
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All insightful comments, and they are things I definitely know I need to work on. I was trying some stuff out and sometimes it really didnt work. Thanks for listening 
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Look at me, I'm back from the dead. Here's a video and minimix I edited from our last monthly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzZV0fyebCM Bloody Beetroots & Steve Aoki-Warp (DJ Manaia edit) Cousin Cole-Bamalam Don Diablo-Too Cool for School Bag Raiders-Turbo Love And a preview mix and video for a mixtape I'm working on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8NUzh5tqIY Vega-Well Known Pleasures Kid Sister-Pro Nails (Bag Raiders remix) Lowbee-Ballers Mujava-Township Funk Proxy-Raven (Crookers remix) I know the track list reads very blog house, but it is for promos afrer all. LISTEN TO ME fucked around with this message at 21:21 on May 28, 2009 |
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LISTEN TO ME posted:I know the track list reads very blog house, but it is for promos afrer all. ...I didn't realize there was a problem with those tracks?
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SixOhSix posted:...I didn't realize there was a problem with those tracks? I don't think there is either, but it's not very indicative of the diversity of stuff I like to play is all knowwhaddamean?
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SixOhSix posted:...I didn't realize there was a problem with those tracks? If you've been in a single club in the last six months you've heard about 20 crookers tracks, two bloody beetroots tracks (one of which is a version of the steve aoki warp track) and that loving kid cudi mixed in SOME way. I think that is what he means by blog house, because if it isn't, it should be. The beetroots are loving awesome, and I'm dying to hear a nice mix with cornelius mixed in, but I'm pretty much done with warp in all of it's forms. That said that crookers mix of raven is loving amazing. Tribal Rival fucked around with this message at 00:04 on May 29, 2009 |
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Splits posted:If you've been in a single club in the last six months you've heard about 20 crookers tracks, two bloody beetroots tracks (one of which is a version of the steve aoki warp track) and that loving kid cudi mixed in SOME way. Nailed it. Anyone in Dallas going to see AC Slater?
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Splits posted:If you've been in a single club in the last six months you've heard about 20 crookers tracks, two bloody beetroots tracks (one of which is a version of the steve aoki warp track) and that loving kid cudi mixed in SOME way. I will say yea, Warped is getting a little overkill now. I liked the track but I can't really find myself mixing it, and I'm personally more partial to Crookers' older stuff. I tend to shy away from what everyone else is doing, but yea it's tough since everyone is apparently doing fidget now. Luckily I haven't pigeonholed the collection to just that and it's pretty much electro I dig and think flows well with what I do. SixOhSix fucked around with this message at 00:11 on May 29, 2009 |
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May 29, 2009 00:08
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SixOhSix posted:I will say yea, Warped is getting a little overkill now. I liked the track but I can't really find myself mixing it, and I'm personally more partial to Crookers' older stuff. I tend to shy away from what everyone else is doing, but yea it's tough since everyone is apparently doing fidget now. As a long time fidget/electro producer/dj I'm a bit upset as well, but not enough to give a gently caress. My catalog murders newcomers. Give my mix a listen, it's 40 minutes of good electro fidget fun and I'm really looking for some comments. It's pre-mixdown so I haven't cleaned up the bass tracks entirely nor have I done much to end it, but it's there and I love new input. I think there will be some lunice and a little thunderheist thrown in for good measure towards the end to pull it into thugged out gangbangin' electro. I'm trying to find a manager at the moment and start doing bookings as well... so if you know anyone booking parties... I travel for cost and a place to stay while I'm building a name, hint hint everyone reading this thread. Every party should have a Detroit local anyway, isn't that in some rulebook somewhere? Tribal Rival fucked around with this message at 00:18 on May 29, 2009 |
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May 29, 2009 00:13
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Splits posted:As a long time fidget/electro producer/dj I'm a bit upset as well, but not enough to give a gently caress. You have no idea how much hearing this made my day. Splits posted:Give my mix a listen, it's 40 minutes of good electro fidget fun and I'm really looking for some comments. I'm trying to find a manager at the moment and start doing bookings as well... so if you know anyone booking parties... I travel for cost and a place to stay while I'm building a name, hint hint everyone reading this thread. I'll definitely give it a listen and write something up. Depending on where you're at, there may be possibilities. The crew I'm with is pretty small so we're primarily Ohio-based, but we're definitely looking at ways to continue expanding since the last year or so has been really good for us. Whoa missed the edit, yea, if you're Detroit-based, I'll definitely check the mix out and possibly pass it along. We definitely like to get a lot of different possibilities for anything we throw. SixOhSix fucked around with this message at 00:23 on May 29, 2009 |
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May 29, 2009 00:18
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SixOhSix posted:You have no idea how much hearing this made my day. I'm glad. It's rare to come by another good electro/glitch cat who doesn't suck the collective cocks of dim mak. I'm from Detroit, so Ohio is within driving distance. I'm entirely an ableton based producer now too, which makes my life a hell of a lot nicer and travel is loving cake since everything fits in carry on. It also gives me so much freedom beyond 3 decks it's unreal. I used to spin detroit techno and hard house, but there is little to no appreciation and I like making motherfuckers jump instead of having a single sounding, seamless mix now. If anything traveling with a laptop is better than vinyl by miles, I can't tell you how pissed I was when my record case stayed in Boston when I was on my way to Chicago.
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May 29, 2009 00:24
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Splits posted:As a long time fidget/electro producer/dj I'm a bit upset as well, but not enough to give a gently caress. My catalog murders newcomers. Long time? That poo poo's only been around for 3 years, max quote:Give my mix a listen, it's 40 minutes of good electro fidget fun and I'm really looking for some comments. It's pre-mixdown so I haven't cleaned up the bass tracks entirely nor have I done much to end it, but it's there and I love new input. I think there will be some lunice and a little thunderheist thrown in for good measure towards the end to pull it into thugged out gangbangin' electro. If you're a Detroit local and you're calling crookers et.al. electro that's pretty sad. You of all people should know about the 'real' poo poo. sorry to be all negative but I'm really cranky today and have hit my limit.
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May 29, 2009 00:25
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tylertfb posted:Long time? That poo poo's only been around for 3 years, max Well, some of Crookers' old stuff was pretty tight. Then I don't know what happened, but yea now it's whatever the hell atrocity it is now.
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May 29, 2009 00:28
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this is electro you jokers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxQHuS6fR6M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4nNwbAGsa8
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May 29, 2009 00:29
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SixOhSix posted:Well, some of Crookers' old stuff was pretty tight. Then I don't know what happened, but yea now it's whatever the hell atrocity it is now. i'm saying you can't be a 'long time fidget/"electro" (notice the scare quotes)' dj or producer because that poo poo ain't been around for a long time yet edit: raaaagh I really should chill out I guess
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May 29, 2009 00:30
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tylertfb posted:Long time? That poo poo's only been around for 3 years, max Electro (read: I owned a few Adult records and occasionally worked them into techno sets) dj for a long time, producing and mixing electro and fidget stuff since I found it flipping old counterfeet records and stole a copy of cubase, but pigeonholing myself isn't something I'm into, so whatever. Crookers is a douchebag now but his old tracks were heaters, so yeah... I feel you on that. Sorry. 
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May 29, 2009 00:32
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tylertfb posted:this is electro you jokers: If anything, since these are showing top tracks of each decade of electro before this one, it shows how rapidly the overall broad 'electro' scene has evolved. This is really getting into a realm of arguing what should mean what in music, and frankly can be done with about any genre that has evolved over time (it's also why I've typically avoided discussing this stuff in the past before because it just ends in rage and tears for everyone).
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May 29, 2009 00:36
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SixOhSix posted:If anything, since these are showing top tracks of each decade of electro before this one, it shows how rapidly the overall broad 'electro' scene has evolved. This is really getting into a realm of arguing what should mean what in music, and frankly can be done with about any genre that has evolved over time (it's also why I've typically avoided discussing this stuff in the past before because it just ends in rage and tears for everyone). Lady Tigra is booty bass. Miami "booty" bass specifically. *(Waits for someone's feathers to ruffle)* Someone post a hot dubstep mix please or some crunkstep stuff... I haven't heard a single dj do anything worth while with the many good crunked out raptastic tracks out there and I'm not knowledgeable enough to even dig for stuff beyond lunice and ludichrist.
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May 29, 2009 00:41
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SixOhSix posted:If anything, since these are showing top tracks of each decade of electro before this one, it shows how rapidly the overall broad 'electro' scene has evolved. This is really getting into a realm of arguing what should mean what in music, and frankly can be done with about any genre that has evolved over time (it's also why I've typically avoided discussing this stuff in the past before because it just ends in rage and tears for everyone). crookers, sinden, bloodybeetroots, everything that's called 'electro' these days is NOT an evolution of the older stuff. These guys have no lineage to the original detroit/NY electro scene, and their ursurpation of the 'electro' moniker is pushing all those old originators even further into obscurity (as demonstrated by this very thread!!!)
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May 29, 2009 01:09
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Is it wrong that I don't really care about any of this stuff and only want to make people party? I side with tylerftb though since people need to stop trying to draw lines from the old stuff to the new stuff when they don't really know what they're talking about.
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May 29, 2009 01:23
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LISTEN TO ME posted:Is it wrong that I don't really care about any of this stuff and only want to make people party? No. No one really cares. If you can make an rear end shake and move a room, then you're on to something and you should keep doing it. No one gives a gently caress about what you call what you spin other than the kids standing in the back counting out mixes, and they don't seem to have too much fun so gently caress em. I like Ludachrist and Girl Talk though so I must be a douchebag.
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May 29, 2009 01:35
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There was dumb poo poo here, I got rid of it because it is dumb.
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look guys, I'm old (a lot older than most of you probably) and way past my time. you kids get all the bookings, the fun, the girls, the drugs. leave a bitter old man my memories at least? a little respect? it's not too much to ask. thank you. i absolutely don't think any of you should play anything other than what you like. that goes absolutely without saying. if you're a 'anything for the crowd' kind of guy, then go for it. I totally get that and respect it (even thought that's not ME or my preference) but it's absolutely not too much at all to ask that you get a little historical perspective about things. it will only serve to enrich your own experience. SixOhSix posted:gently caress it, this is done, and this is why I refused to get involved in NMD in the first place. 's just words, dude. a little discussion from time to time to make everybody think of things and remind everybody where they stand and for why can't hurt. 'the unexamined life....' and all that and just for the record: my posting style in this last page is kind of in the 'cranky old techno obsessive' mold that has a real long an storied history on the internet and as such is kind of a self-cariacature (but it contains a heavy kernel of the truth) and if this is your first encounter with the stereotype, well then congradulations, one more thing to cross off your list of experiences. tylertfb fucked around with this message at 02:19 on May 29, 2009 |
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