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Micromancer posted:jesus christ if you don't want a bullet in the face quit yelling I got it I got it while I'm getting mugged. I love this. The mental image of a guy with a baseball glove standing behind your assailant and just diving left and right trying to catch a bullet until he catches one in the face is awesome.
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DEUSFORORUM posted:I am in the military, stationed in TX, and looking to get my CHL. From what I can find, the license is free. It also says I can waive the range proficiency, but I am unclear as to whether that has to be a M9 qualification to waive that portion or if any qualification works. It has to be a handgun qualification in the last year. You won't have to pay the fee for the license, but you will still have to attend the class in state and pay for that. DPS will need the qualification info, a copy of your military ID, and a copy of your last earnings statement.
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Micromancer posted:you know what these are aweseom Micromancer in the mornin! Micromancer in the evenin! Micromancer at suppertime! When you have micromancer on TFR you can have micromancer anytime!  Yes i know that wasn't for Pizza Rolls, shut up
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mischief posted:I was under the potentially misled impression that such a scenario could happen in a home defense shooting here in North Carolina but I do not have anything I can cite. NC's laws on use of force and the house are totally hosed. Basically the law is worded in a hilariously bad way which has had the consequence of only protecting your permitter, rather than the interior of your residence. As I recall it (check legal statutes yourself, etc. etc.) we have it on the books that anyone attempting to break into your home may be shot dead without warning. Pretty strong castle defense there. BUT, once they're in there's this other law about how property owners or renters may only use "legally justified force" to remove people from their property. I forget why exactly it came about, but it has something to do with kicking out people you invited there. Basically it was intended to closed a perceived loophole where I could invite you to my place, shout "Castle doctrine, bitch!" and shoot you in my livingroom with no consequences - or something. Anyways, as it stands now if someone actually breaks into your house you are right back at having to prove a reasonable fear for your safety or that of someone else - namely the exact same criteria for shooting someone anywhere else that isn't your house. In reality saying "well, I heard a loud crash, it was 4 in the morning, and I found this guy standing in my living room stealing my poo poo. He moved toward me and I feared for my life so I shot him" works pretty well as a justification for pulling the trigger. They really, REALLY need to streamline the home-defense parts of NC law, but no one wants to touch it due to the political problems. If they try to strengthen it the Triangle will scream about Castle Doctrine being some kind of Texas "I shoot you if you come on my land" style license to murder, while if they attempted to weaken it the rest of the state would be up in arms.
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What's "The Triangle"? It sounds sinister. 
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M.C. McMic posted:What's "The Triangle"? It sounds sinister. It's a collection of three NC cities all really close to one-another. I think it's Raleigh, Durham and.... hell I can't remember.
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Chapel Hill's the last one.
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M.C. McMic posted:What's "The Triangle"? It sounds sinister. It's the triangle made by Chapel Hill, Durham, and Raleigh in North Carolina. It's a huge research/academic area and is frequently also called the Research Triangle. There's a Research Triangle Park (RTP) that has facilities for a lot of corporate research, as well as a bunch of space rented out to academic institutions as well. Basically it's higher-level academia and scientific/engineering research central. It has the highest or 2nd highest per-capita rate of PhDs in the US, constantly trading slots with Silicone Valley. As one can imagine, with all of the universities and egghead research types the politics tend to be somewhat to the left of good 'ol boys in the rest of the state.
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Oh goddamnit Chapel Hill, I knew that  So do any of the left-leaning eggheads go on to change genders like that gun/history researching egghead from... gently caress I forget where again. He was on all those Discovery channel shows related to guns. Blond guy (well, former guy) More on topic, are there any places to find MTAC bodies other than Comp-Tac themselves? I've been trying to track down one for either a Glock 17 or the 9/40/357 slide version.
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| # ? May 3, 2010 15:22 |
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I'm 25 and got pulled over fo the first time today. Apparently I didn't come to a complete stop at a stopsign which is complete bullshit but whatever. I told the cop I was legally carrying. He flipped and made me slowly take it out of my pocket and put it ontop of my car. He told me it was illegal to carry a chambered round. He grilled me on why I would carry a gun in a pocket holster. He grilled me on where I took the class. He then sat in his car forever talking on the radio. Turns out you can carry a chambered round!!! Turns out he still ticketed me for the stop sign. What an rear end.
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Cyrano4747 posted:constantly trading slots with Silicone Valley. Something tells me there aren't many PhD's in Silicone Valley. And if there are, I want to know where they went to school, I have a big fat GI bill to spend.
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DJExile posted:Oh goddamnit Chapel Hill, I knew that I have a slide. You can't have it though. I don't know if their stocking dealers carry MTAC bodies or not, but you can give them a try. Or just order one from the site. Their production time is only a week or so, plus candy.
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Captain Log posted:I'm 25 and got pulled over fo the first time today. Apparently I didn't come to a complete stop at a stopsign which is complete bullshit but whatever. I told the cop I was legally carrying. He flipped and made me slowly take it out of my pocket and put it ontop of my car. He told me it was illegal to carry a chambered round. He grilled me on why I would carry a gun in a pocket holster. He grilled me on where I took the class. He then sat in his car forever talking on the radio. When I was pulled over once, the officer disarmed me. I got everything back at the end of the traffic stop: my Glock 19, holster, empty mag and 15 rounds in a baggie. There should be 16 rounds though, as I carry +1. I check the chamber and yes, there's a round in it. I fail to see why the officer bothered to empty the mag when she left one in the chamber, so I'm going to assume she was a moron.
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Captain Log posted:Turns out you can carry a chambered round!!! Turns out he still ticketed me for the stop sign. lolwut? Where exactly is this. I know that's not the case in PA, and I've never heard of something so ridiculous, but I don't necessarily doubt it (other than the fact that it came out of a patrolman's mouth). I'd like to look this up.
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Craptacular posted:When I was pulled over once, the officer disarmed me. I got everything back at the end of the traffic stop: my Glock 19, holster, empty mag and 15 rounds in a baggie. There should be 16 rounds though, as I carry +1. I check the chamber and yes, there's a round in it. I fail to see why the officer bothered to empty the mag when she left one in the chamber, so I'm going to assume she was a moron. I've been pulled over once while carrying. (67 in a 55 - rural road with a sign I didn't see, thought it was still 65) I handed the officer my driver's and CCW licenses, he looked them over and after the usual "Do yo know why you were pulled over?" and explanation of the ticket, that was that. He never even asked me about the gun. As a bonus he accidentally wrote the ticket to some poor random schmuck in San Antonio because he put the CCW number rather than the driver's license number into the computer. I didn't notice until days later, and when I told the clerk of court about it she contacted the officer and he dropped the ticket himself. Didn't even have to go to court.
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Motronic posted:lolwut? Where exactly is this. I know that's not the case in PA, and I've never heard of something so ridiculous, but I don't necessarily doubt it (other than the fact that it came out of a patrolman's mouth). I'd like to look this up. It's complete horse poo poo. He spent fifteen minutes in his car talking into his radio. He then didn't mention it again. It was awkward having my loaded gun on the roof of my car while he sat in his car and homeless people walked by. It was a poo poo part of town and he clearly pulled me over just hoping to find something else. It's not like our city is underwater right now or anything. Oh wait it is.
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Propagandalf posted:Something tells me there aren't many PhD's in Silicone Valley. And if there are, I want to know where they went to school, I have a big fat GI bill to spend. Um, yeah. There are TONS of PhDs in Silicon Valley. You know all that computer R&D they do down there? Intel? HP? Any of these companies ringing a bell? Adobe? Appel? Sun? nVidia? Semantec? Yahoo? Cisco? That's off the top of my head, and ones that I know are headquartered there. Plus throw in the university infrastructure that's been built up around San Jose State and Stanford. PhDs aren't just assholes like me that work in universities, once your'e talking about engineering or the applied sciences the private sector employs a TON of them.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Um, yeah. There are TONS of PhDs in Silicon Valley. You know all that computer R&D they do down there? Intel? HP? Any of these companies ringing a bell? Adobe? Appel? Sun? nVidia? Semantec? Yahoo? Cisco? That's off the top of my head, and ones that I know are headquartered there. Plus throw in the university infrastructure that's been built up around San Jose State and Stanford. PhDs aren't just assholes like me that work in universities, once your'e talking about engineering or the applied sciences the private sector employs a TON of them. Re-read that. Slooooooowly this time. 
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Fuckin ha ha ha, I missed that at first too.
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Cyrano4747 posted:NC's laws on use of force and the house are totally hosed. quote:(a) A lawful occupant within a home or other place of residence is justified in using any degree of force that the occupant reasonably believes is necessary, including deadly force, against an intruder to prevent a forcible entry into the home or residence or to terminate the intruder's unlawful entry (i) if the occupant reasonably apprehends that the intruder may kill or inflict serious bodily harm to the occupant or others in the home or residence, or (ii) if the occupant reasonably believes that the intruder intends to commit a felony in the home or residence. I just got my CCH permit in NC this month, having previously held a LTC in Massachusetts. Taking the class, I couldn't believe how confusing the law is written. It was explained to me by my instructor that the part about being able to resist unlawful entry (ex: firing through the door) wasn't in the original laws passed in 1996 when the state began issuing CCH permits. The part about resisting entry was added to the law after a court ruling involving forced entry convinced lawmakers that the law needed to be tweaked. Do you know anything about this?
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One more high point of my run in with one of Nashville's finest today. After he gave my gun back he slowly backed up to his car with his hand over his gun staring at me quick draw style. I didn't know I gave the vibe off to police officers that I might go hog wild if he turned his back. My politeness to him despite how I felt must have been a red flag that I could snap at any minute.
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Captain Log posted:One more high point of my run in with one of Nashville's finest today. After he gave my gun back he slowly backed up to his car with his hand over his gun staring at me quick draw style.
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porkface posted:Probably better that be his SOP than to pick and choose who he trusts. He already showed a lack of firearms knowledge and muzzle swept me with my own weapon multiple times. He made me nervous.
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Should have called the co... Oh wait.
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Captain Log posted:He already showed a lack of firearms knowledge and muzzle swept me with my own weapon multiple times. He made me nervous. I don't know, if he muzzle swept you with a loaded weapon that he took off you, I might just write a letter to the chief of police and reference his badge number. Everything about that incident is pretty bizarre, but getting swept with a loaded pistol that the officer is obviously uncomfortable with is pretty bad. That's the kind of poo poo that would make me call a range outing to a close at least. I wouldn't phrase the letter in the "you gotta fire this guy, mah rights" kind of way, just in a friendly "hey, maybe you should get officer Smith here some extra weapons training" kind of way.
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I got my PPS back from Walther/S&W today. They replaced the trigger bar this time, having replaced the striker assembly last time. The goddamn thing still doesn't work, so it's going back a third time. I talked to customer service again and the guy indicated that a lot of the time the third time's a charm in terms of them going ahead and replacing the affected pistol. We shall see.
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GroovinPickle posted:I got my PPS back from Walther/S&W today. They replaced the trigger bar this time, having replaced the striker assembly last time. The goddamn thing still doesn't work, so it's going back a third time. I talked to customer service again and the guy indicated that a lot of the time the third time's a charm in terms of them going ahead and replacing the affected pistol. We shall see. I must be stupid when it comes to business. Do they have any idea how many potential customers are eliminated by this sort of short-sighted service? Most people are very tolerant of mistakes or shortcomings in a product if the maker owns up and takes care of it.
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The frustrating thing is that it takes no more than 60 seconds to test for the problem, and I explained that in both of the notes that I included when sending the gun back. Literally within a minute of opening the box I was able to see that it wasn't fixed properly. I still confirmed it with a live fire test, which was even less successful than the dry fire test.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I don't know, if he muzzle swept you with a loaded weapon that he took off you, I might just write a letter to the chief of police and reference his badge number. Everything about that incident is pretty bizarre, but getting swept with a loaded pistol that the officer is obviously uncomfortable with is pretty bad. That's the kind of poo poo that would make me call a range outing to a close at least. I wouldn't phrase the letter in the "you gotta fire this guy, mah rights" kind of way, just in a friendly "hey, maybe you should get officer Smith here some extra weapons training" kind of way. Yeah, I'm going to court with this to try and get it dismissed. There is a reason that I have been driving for ten years and never even been pulled over before. I'm Captain Caution in the car and this guy got me for a violation that is just his word vs. mine. I'm more banking on the fact that he will not show up being that our city is large and underwater. I know his word probably trumps mine regardless of driving record. Another funny fact about my experience. He told me to SLOWLY produce the gun from my pocket. I did so. It is a Kel Tec P3AT in a Desantis Nemesis. I was holding it saying, "Here is the firearm, officer." He kept asking, "Where is it?! Where is the gun?" I had to point with my other hand to the only thing I was holding in my right hand, the firearm in the holster. He stared for a minute and asked for it and clearly had no idea what the gently caress he was looking at. Then came the, "Is it loaded?" "Yes officer with a round chambered." "That's not legal!" talk.  And I'm more than likely out over $130 bucks due to this lovely exchange.
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GroovinPickle posted:The frustrating thing is that it takes no more than 60 seconds to test for the problem, and I explained that in both of the notes that I included when sending the gun back. Literally within a minute of opening the box I was able to see that it wasn't fixed properly. I still confirmed it with a live fire test, which was even less successful than the dry fire test. How the gently caress does Smith not run a test of their own 
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DJExile posted:How the gently caress does Smith not run a test of their own It's a Walther, if it doesn't work maybe the reduced brand loyalty will move them to buy a Smith and Wesson this time. Can I interest you in a nice M&P?
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Micromancer posted:It's a Walther, if it doesn't work maybe the reduced brand loyalty will move them to buy a Smith and Wesson this time. Can I interest you in a nice M&P? Holy poo poo 
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I am picking up a comptac belt and holster for my G19. What is the difference between the clip styles for the MTAC?
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Standard: Clips over the belt, visible from the outside C-Clip: Hooks under the belt, less visible from the outside V-Clip: Needs a belt with velcro on the inside, bonus is it's nearly invisible from the outside. Unless you plan on wearing it tucked all the time, I'd just go with the standard.
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std clips loop around the belt c clips grasp the top/bottom of the belt so theres less for people to see but its less secure v clips hook into velcro   
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Uncle Caveman posted:Standard: Clips over the belt, visible from the outside Rock lobster. Here you go comptac, take my $150!
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I have a situation that can't be completely unique, but no one I know has been able to help me out. Over the past several months I've really gotten in cycling. I especially enjoy the Monon Trail that runs through most of the north side of Indianapolis. However, it runs through some pretty sketchy parts of town. A number of times now I've found myself riding along on a $500 bicycle, with a $400 cell phone and $150 iPod, and realized that there was no one else in sight. Obviously, I would feel more comfortable if I were carrying like usual. My question, what clever CC methods or tech are available for a guy in this situation? I usually wear lycra shorts or pants and a lycra shirt with a t-shirt over that. How does a guy in this situation discreetly carry? Ninja Edit: My current CCW is a Colt Lawman Mark III snub, although I'm shopping for something a bit newer and more practical.
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Mr. 47 posted:I have a situation that can't be completely unique, but no one I know has been able to help me out. Over the past several months I've really gotten in cycling. I especially enjoy the Monon Trail that runs through most of the north side of Indianapolis. Rick Perry runs with a Ruger LCP, so you could probably bike with one.
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Corrupted posted:Rick Perry runs with a Ruger LCP, so you could probably bike with one. It's weird you mention that. A buddy of mine has one he swears by and it's exactly what I've been looking at.
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If you're wearing spandex, a fanny pack is about your only real secure carry option. It looks stupid, but remember: 1. You are wearing spandex. 2. Fanny pack conveniently camouflages erection An LCP was my recent summer-carry purchase as well. I got the pocket holster from http://www.aholster.com posted by someone earlier itt) and it's much nicer than the DeSantis Nemesis.
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