king of the bongo posted:

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Helter Skelter posted:

kwantam posted:

My preferred 9mm rounds are the Cor-Bon 115gr +P (haven't tried the DPX but I've heard good things), Federal HST 147gr +P, and Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P. All of these are extremely effective and reliable in my guns.

kwantam posted:

ATK (Federal's parent company) lists data here: http://le.atk.com/general/federalpr...acticalhst.aspx

P9HST4 is the round in question.

ETA: That stuff is hard to find, probably because ATK recently started enforcing their "Law Enforcement Only" policy.

Elendil004 posted:

I'm LE and can get those rounds, are they worth it though? Now I'm just carrying remington hollowpoints. I figure a bullet's a bullet, and a JHP wont go through someone as easy than a FMJ so that's why I carry them.

Is that too naieve? Should I really invest in some crazy hydrashok copkiller armorpiercing BMG bullet of death?

lilspooky posted:

Infrared, where are you reading / finding these autopsy reports? The med student in me is curious.

lilspooky posted:

Ah, guess that answers that. Sorta!

DrunkenDiablo posted:

Sorry if I missed this question earlier in the thread.

My car was broken into last night and fortunately my pistol was not in the car. All they got was some change and my tacticlol Maglite (bastards!). Now, I am even more paranoid than usual so I ask you, how do you secure your carry piece in your car when it becomes necessary?

I don't like to do it, but when I have to i use this thing http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0045006228564a.shtml and wrap the cable around the seat rail. It seems like it might be a quick deterrent but wouldn't do much good otherwise. If it helps in the discussion I'm driving a 95 pathfinder, in WA state and i'm open to both good locking mechanisms and hiding spots that don't draw too much attention when stashing.

Mr. Funny Pants posted:

Today was my first as a licensed carrier (sounds ominous). My observations, thoughts, etc.:

Mr. Funny Pants posted:

If you meant while on me, I can do that too, but I assume not, so:

AR posted:

At or around 3 o'clock my MTAC was an eyesore under a slightly loose-fitting polo shirt. Rolling it back around somewhere between 4 and 5 (haven't perfected this yet) makes it disappear. Also I think you have to take the "I am printing this much" factor and divide by 100 to get the real unsuspecting public printing degree.

GroovinPickle posted:

For carrying IWB width doesn't seem to matter as much. You could go with a 1.25" or even 1" belt as long as the holster matches. It doesn't have to be super-stiff or tactical or anything, but one thing that I do like about "gun belts" (or custom belts in general) is that you can get a smaller spacing on the holes, which allows for a little more fine-tuning when you go from gun to no gun (or starving to just ate a big meal, if you will).

poopgiggle posted:

What's the deal with the "Concealed Weapons Permit" badges that I see for sale in some places like this one?

poopgiggle posted:

Does anyone actually buy these?

poopgiggle posted:

What purpose do they serve?

poopgiggle posted:

They just seem like a colossally bad idea to me.

Illegal Clown posted:

The only serious thing I can think about those is that it would be for a situation where someone wanted to identify himself as a good guy and not accidentally get shot by a real cop or another idiot with a CCW. I've often wondered what would happen if in a situation where there is a shooter and then a bunch of people draw to stop him. I could see more people getting freaked out and escalating the situation. I'm not saying I'd ever buy one of these things or anything else that said I was packing (it's called concealed for a reason!) but it just makes me think.

Schigolch posted:

In other news, I went by the bullet trap to fondle a PPS ( will go test shoot one tomorrow) and there in the case next to it was a sig p238. I had seen the pictures everyone else has but I had no grasp of how goddamn tiny that thing is. Even though I have no desire to try to find .38 to shoot in addition to the 9mm I already can't find, I am quite intrigued.

DJ_Ferret posted:

DJExile, you too are a taller fellow. Do you have any shirt type or brand recommendations to assist in concealment? It's a mixed bag whether any t-shirt I buy will be long enough to allow me to conceal. I don't want to flash my piece to anyone when I reach for something above head height, and I don't want to act like I have a broomstick bolted to my spine just to keep from exposing my gun. I normally wear a longer sweatshirt or jacket to prevent this, but the weather is getting warmer, and short sleeves are the order of the day.

edit: or should I just get a smaller gun.

DJ_Ferret posted:

I too am 6'6", 230lbs. I wear XL shirts, but I try not to carry without a jacket or sweatshirt of some kind on. I haven't tried carrying with a polo, but I'll shop around and see what I can find. That or some button up short sleeve shirts of some kind.

Count Piro posted:

I need your collective opinions to help end my period of indecisiveness. I've been talking about getting my Ohio ccw for a couple years but I haven't for want of a good gun/holster combo. Problem is I'm a string bean. Just over 6' and weighing in at about 132 lbs (I just managed to finally put a few pounds back on after getting thinner than I've ever been) and tend to wear slimmer fitting clothes. Ive been thinking about something like a cz 2075 or a j-frame (I tend to like revolvers and manual safteys in pistols). I'm still on the fence about .380.

I can't carry to or from work or class, and not into bars, so any other place I'm going I could adjust my dress a bit when I carry.
Hit me with some of your knowledge. I need your suggestions to help me spend my money.

GroovinPickle posted:

From the NRA show this past week, MSAR introduces a pre-pre-production model pocket pistol chambered in 9mm.



From what I understand they haven't even test-fired them yet. Looks promising, though. They're talking about 5+1 or possibly 6+1 with a longer magazine.

GroovinPickle posted:

Do you mean just with the recall? Because lately I've found myself looking for an LCP locally, but I'm not paying $350 for one.

DrunkenDiablo posted:

Does anyone here have extra insurance coverage in case they have to use their firearm in a defense situation? Are there companies that specialize in liability/legal fees coverage for people who carry?

Micromancer posted:

I'm fairly inept when it comes to legal matters and rely mostly on what I hear people tell me.

How would a criminal defense lawyer assist with the legal fees from an impending civil suit? Regardless of being acquitted of criminal wrongdoing, you're still going to have a civil trial for damages on related incidents that aren't specifically covered by the scope of your immunity from civil suit. As such it seems that this would be out of the realm of their expertise.

Also, using a lawyer to lower legal fees seems to be counter-intuitive. I'm not saying you are wrong or anything, just saying I don't understand.

Micromancer posted:

Here again, murder is a criminal charge, and not going to be part of your civil damages law suit.

There is no insurance you can buy that will pay for new windows on the house behind your attacker.

Fog Tripper posted:

In regards to Sig 239s:
Is there any difference between the slides on a SAS DA/SA and a SAS DAK?
I am contemplating trading for a nitron finish, rather than sending the 2-tone slide off for ceracoat house black.

Schigolch posted:

Can you post a few pics of the PPS in the MTAC, both by itself and carried perhaps? I am a day or two away from finally pulling the trigger on the same setup.

DJExile posted:

I'll take some tonight and get them up.

TenementFunster posted:

a CHL is going to turn up on a government background check, right? i'm kinda afraid that if I show up at the courthouse for an internship or something all the clerks are gonna think i'm a loon before I even walk in the door


haha who am i kidding this is rural oklahoma. they are probably going to ask me how many deer i've got with it

king of the bongo posted:

are those the chestnut c clips?

OMGWTFWALLHACK posted:

Why does that shirt exist, and why would you want it?

porkface posted:

Galco make distinct models from a given design in order to fit the trigger and safety areas of each gun correctly.

Many times I've jammed one gun in a holster for another, but they spend a lot of money making unique models and strongly recommend against the practice citing safety, fit, and wear issues.

GroovinPickle posted:

I'd take a hard look at the Walther PPS if I were you. Very thin, seems to be Glock-like so it should be pretty familiar, and the different length magazines let you balance concealability with capacity/grip.

Lord Commissar posted:

You're right, you know what's comfortable on me and I don't.

Lord Commissar posted:

I do wear fairly loose pants, but I'll see if maybe going up another size isn't better. I've tried pretty much every combo I can think of, and nothing really seems to work for me. I've tried different cants, and different positions, etc. for months now.

Homie S posted:

It's just a piece of paper right? Sadly I don't think you can laminate it or copy it. just have her carry it in her purse. Also you win for being in Placer county, they're apparently relatively lenient for for CCW issuing.

Mr. Funny Pants posted:

Soon apparently, because every time we drive by a toll booth, my wife gets all giddy about it.

Count Sacula posted:

I hope I can ask this without coming across as an irresponsible knob. I normally keep a pistol in my glovebox. I know this is considered useless by many here, but for a host of reasons its a compromise that I am willing to accept at this point. I have a CCW but per Florida law the gun in my glovebox, loaded or unloaded, is considered "securely encased", so in that instance I'm not "carrying", right?

The reason I ask is that sometimes I'll end up hitting a happy hour after work, or having a few drinks with some friends unexpectedly. I don't normally get trashed or anything, and I keep my registration and insurance in my center console. If for whatever reason I get pulled over, this isn't a CCW violation, right? Or should I just stick it in my trunk before I drive home to avoid retarded issues?