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Redgrendel2001 posted:im not sure which one is supposed to be the good one
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Uncle Wemus posted:im not sure which one is supposed to be the good one it doesn't even make sense after the fall of the berlin wall unless you count Israel
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Hi folks, I am Mike the cleaner. I am cleaning up things, because somebody has to do the dirty work. This is a long post, sorry. It has pretty interesting screenshots, too. And Bill Collier will be really pissed when he reads this. So it's well worth it. Some introduction: Last weekend, I wanted to know more about Bill Collier, because his postings on Team Sarah made me curious.. In his personal profile on Team Sarah, he lists as his “favourite political website”: http://www.freedomist.org I went on this site and was up for a great surprise, I almost couldn’t believe it: Bill Collier himself was chatting to another member, right at this moment when I was watching! The chat on this page is “open”, everybody can see it, even if they are not logged in or a member. (UPDATE: THE CHAT HAS NOW BEEN REMOVED FROM HIS PAGE) :-) There was virtually nobody on the site apart from 2-3 logged in members, and therefore Bill Collier felt free to have a “confidential chat” to “Kelly S”, who is also a member of Team Sarah. I would like to stress that this chat was not “hacked”. The chat was openly visible for everyone who went to this site, you also don't need to be logged in. The content of the chat was highly revealing and puts Bill Collier in an extremely questionable position. I have enclosed comprehensive screenshots of the chat, which was available online for several minutes, enough time to capture the last minutes of it “in full”, including the screenshots of the whole page. This “intercepted” chat happened on Saturday, 3rd January at 7.40 pm – 7.49 pm Pennsylvania time (what came afterwards were just another three unimportant messages, then it stopped, apparently until today). On the enclosed screenshots it says 1.40 am – 1.49 am, because the chat was actually “intercepted” in Germany, and it shows that German time (night from Saturday 3rd January to Sunday 4th January in Germany). In the “intercepted chat”, Bill Collier is chatting with his friend “Kelly S”. About him, Bill Collier wrote one day before, on 2nd January in his article “Liberal Conspiracy”: “Thanks go out to Kelley S who serves TeamSarah brilliantly as a guardian, going out on patrol, looking for invaders who are attempting to frame and defame the community. Thanks to Kelly, we now have screen shots, ID’s, and IP’s of a number of individuals who have planned an effort, and attempted to implement it, to act as agent provocateurs and discredit Team Sarah by planting racist and other unsavory material as if they were members.” http://www.freedomist.org/profiles/...piracy-to-frame ++++++++ You can see the full chat between Bill Collier and Kelly S in the screenshots below. If I get a space problem, I will do additional postings. I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT TWO THINGS: Bill Collier mentions a “Ralph” from Team Sarah. This “Ralph” is actually RALPH BENKO, who is one of the friends of Bill Collier on Team Sarah, and who is also the CREATOR OF TEAM SARAH, see here: http://72.30.186.56/search/cache?ei...&icp=1&.intl=uk Funnily, Bill Collier calls Ralph Benko on this chat a “MANIAC”, but says immediately afterwards to Kelly S: “BUT DON'T TELL HIM” !! (Bill, I am sure that Kelly S kept his secret, so there is no way that Ralph Benko will find out that you called him a maniac – you lucky man!) Here is the profile of Ralph (Ralph Benko) on Team Sarah (login required): http://www.teamsarah.org/profile/wy93nkailjr0 +++ SECOND POINT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT: ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING PARTS OF THE CONVERSATION COMES WHEN BILL COLLIER SUDDENLY ASKS KELLY S: “how do you like the front page” At this day, the 3rd January, the front page looked like this: http://www.freedomist.org/profiles/...dom-fights-back Freedom FIGHTS BACK! Vicious Attack on Team Sarah STOPPED, Pictured above is Sarah Palin's church, torched by an arsonist, evidently the same spirit of hate is the underlying "strategy" for "political engagement" from the left and today, January 3, 2009, WE WILL ANSWER EVERY ATTACK, blow for blow, exposing the lies and holding the perpetrators and those who benefit from such cyber-crimes to account in a way that will MAKE THEM REGRET attacking our virtual communities, blogs, and etc. More "Operations" to Stop such plots against other virtual communities and blogs by the liberal menace are planned. volunteers sought for "The Freedom Elite Corps". (…) And the story on Bill Collier’s page from the 2nd January was: http://www.freedomist.org/profiles/...piracy-to-frame Liberal Conspiracy to Frame and Defame TeamSarah: Busted! (in which Kelly S was mentioned) The conversation in the chat went as follows: Bill Collier: How do you like the front page article? Kelly S: Liberal Conspiracy…nice Bill Collier: (smiley) Kelly S: or freedom fire Bill Collier: ralph’s headline Kelly S: Good headline ---------- This conversation raises a lot of questions. INTERESTINGLY, the VERY FIRST blog of Bill Collier on the Team Sarah website dealt with the fire at Sarah Palin’s church: http://www.teamsarah.org/profiles/b...palins-hometown (login required) It seems obvious that Bill Collier exploits this fire for his own political gains, and he and Kelly S know that the claim of a “liberal conspiracy” is a joke. What makes this really interesting is that Kelly S describes the fire at Sarah’s church as “freedom fire” - which seems to be highly suspicious. The infamous “Reichstags Fire” springs into mind, when the Nazis ruthlessly exploited the fire of the Reichstag in Berlin in 1933. It would not be surprising if Bill Collier uses Nazi tactics – he himself has blogged about the Nazi propaganda methods before and was very impressed by them: http://www.helium.com/items/231476-...in-nazi-germany Here are the screenshots: By the way: All screenshots, including the full page screenshots, are available here: http://s419.photobucket.com/albums/...MisterClean123/ Cleaning job done for today – the weekend is waiting! Kind Regards Mike the Cleaner                        
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| # ? Jan 9, 2009 20:15 |
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bill collier needs to use a typing rod
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drat. poo poo just got real. The most offensive part in that whole thing to me was the ignorant redundancy of "and etc."
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itibani7 posted:Do you beat your wife? 
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| # ? Jan 9, 2009 20:24 |
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fauxbama posted:lf sold out we must create a new exclusive forum for people with proper posting pedigrees i will call these PPP from now on what is your PPP score? PM me to find out
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Mike the cleaner posted:Hi folks, I don't know. I tend to agree with your interpretation of the chat and everything else you posted. But is the inappropriateness clear-cut enough to spread doubt among hardcore supporters? If not, what's the goal here? Pissing off Ralph? I may be overestimating the level of denial on teamsarah, especially since I have no firsthand experience of it. But do you think "freedom fire" will come as a shock to the average member the way "BILL COLLIER OWNS A DILDO EMPORIUM" did? It seems like it can easily be brushed off with "That's not what they meant," and the reader won't spend the time reading to decide what they DID mean. I don't think there's any other interpretation, but to reach that conclusion you have to expend effort reading the screenshots, suggesting alternative interpretations, and realizing they don't make sense. I don't think people will put forth that effort, when they already feel certain of the result. (Also, why does the dildo emporium sentence still make me laugh, every time?) McNerd fucked around with this message at Jan 9, 2009 around 20:34 |
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Thanks for posting this Mike, this rather feeds into Bill's whole shadow government thing, along with his apparent need to build some sort of society he can be the leader of. There's a real pattern of behavious emerging here that seems to indicate a real thirst for power.
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Dear everybody: You don't need a real email to register. Resgiter however many accounts you want. But keep a log. We might need to organize a TS carpet bomb.
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Brown Moses posted:Thanks for posting this Mike, this rather feeds into Bill's whole shadow government thing, along with his apparent need to build some sort of society he can be the leader of. There's a real pattern of behavious emerging here that seems to indicate a real thirst for power. if you read through his poo poo, he's got some serious abandonment issues. when he fled to twitter, all he did was bitch about "conservatives abandoning each other".
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So Bill, you're a fan of Nazi propaganda techniques, want to start up street level political armies (ie: the SA of the Nazi party) and have links to Stormfront and the KKK. This is wild. Tell us Bill, how would the "Freedom Elite Corps" be used? What would their uniform be?
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yeah just use a random mailinator acct (preferably with one of the other suffixes, just to make sure)
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| # ? Jan 9, 2009 20:39 |
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CraigK posted:yeah no. You can use any email and pretty sure any domain. There is no email verification whatsoever.
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| # ? Jan 9, 2009 20:42 |
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Crenshaw posted:get out Jailbrekr posted:All evidence suggests that he is who he says he is. I was talking about the chatlogs with "bill collier" saying things like mexicans arent allowed into upadaria or whatever which is obviously not him this thread is pretty funny but people should stop posting chatlogs of trolls trolling each other
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poo poo just got real
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^^^^^^^^^ Looks like you have to be logged in to chat, try using the URL http://www.teamsarah.org/chat to see if he's just removed the link from the unregistered user page. StateOwned posted:I was talking about the chatlogs with "bill collier" saying things like mexicans arent allowed into upadaria or whatever which is obviously not him I gotta agree with this, there's enough crazy on Team Sarah to find interesting stuff, you just have to look for it.
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w1ntermute posted:poo poo just got real You gotta log in to see it.
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Oglethorpe posted:no. in a tribute to palin's rise to prominence, they forego all vetting practices
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Oglethorpe posted:You gotta log in to see it. Just noticing changes as of today. They're eventually going to make the chatbox for unregged users disappear I'm betting.
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Really Pants posted:in a tribute to palin's rise to prominence, they forego all vetting practices BAM
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its taking less than an hour now to be verified so we're back to instant gratification
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Jailbrekr posted:All evidence suggests that he is who he says he is. He's talking about in the chatlogs not in the posts, and yes if you thought it was him you are pretty dumb.
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Really Pants posted:in a tribute to palin's rise to prominence, they forego all vetting practices 2nd best post on this page.
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He wants us to stir up more drama because he is going to use this to try and make money off of his users. He is exploiting dozens of people in order to make some extra money, I don't really care because they are all right wing idiots, but his actions are yet another example of how his side destroys itself in the long run. These people deserve Palin.
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Tars Tarkas posted:He wants us to stir up more drama because he is going to use this to try and make money off of his users. He is exploiting dozens of people in order to make some extra money, I don't really care because they are all right wing idiots, but his actions are yet another example of how his side destroys itself in the long run. These people deserve Palin. It is your duty to spread the blogs around
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Duh! The only way some of them are going to learn is when they are destroyed by their own side.
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| # ? Jan 9, 2009 21:08 |
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quote:There are several activities going on that day. First there is a pre-March breakfast organized by me (details below and also an "event") Goonmeet?
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ChlamydiaJones posted:Goonmeet? yessssssss
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Oglethorpe posted:yessssssss Worst news for me is that I fly out on the 21st. Why couldn't they have had the drat event BEFORE the inauguration - I've got all day on the 19th free!
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ChlamydiaJones posted:Worst news for me is that I fly out on the 21st. Why couldn't they have had the drat event BEFORE the inauguration - I've got all day on the 19th free! I can't go anyway I just want video
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ChlamydiaJones posted:Goonmeet? Dammit, and I just moved away from the DC area.
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| # ? Jan 9, 2009 21:36 |
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just for old times sake, someone post those palin pictures and gifs (My pussy's so hot, the debate one about the things that come out of her vagina, naylin palyn etc.) they're mementos
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http://current.com/items/89699004/h...ajama_mafia.htm
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| # ? Jan 9, 2009 21:59 |
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the chatroom has devolved into bashing solar power, and reminiscing about how great it will be when palin is president. edit: "bill really showed those trolls"
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IHatePugs posted:the chatroom has devolved into bashing solar power, and reminiscing about how great it will be when palin is president.  i cant believe how easy it is to manipulate the narrative of that place
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Whoever spammed the link, edit it to only one post. Minimalism is effective edit: https://www.rapiddonation.com/init/controller/ProcessEntryCmd?key=M2J4R8F2U6 Oglethorpe fucked around with this message at Jan 9, 2009 around 22:08 |
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