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baw
Nov 5, 2008
RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

maybe he's just writing a really long reply

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Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006







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Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

want age 25-70 guy to come over and jo in my model train room.

Redgrendel2001 posted:




im not sure which one is supposed to be the good one

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Uncle Wemus posted:

im not sure which one is supposed to be the good one

it doesn't even make sense after the fall of the berlin wall

unless you count Israel

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006




Mike the cleaner
Jan 9, 2009


Hi folks,

I am Mike the cleaner. I am cleaning up things, because somebody has to do the dirty work.

This is a long post, sorry. It has pretty interesting screenshots, too.

And Bill Collier will be really pissed when he reads this. So it's well worth it.

Some introduction:

Last weekend, I wanted to know more about Bill Collier, because his postings on Team Sarah made me curious.. In his personal profile on Team Sarah, he lists as his “favourite political website”:

http://www.freedomist.org

I went on this site and was up for a great surprise, I almost couldn’t believe it: Bill Collier himself was chatting to another member, right at this moment when I was watching! The chat on this page is “open”, everybody can see it, even if they are not logged in or a member.

(UPDATE: THE CHAT HAS NOW BEEN REMOVED FROM HIS PAGE) :-)

There was virtually nobody on the site apart from 2-3 logged in members, and therefore Bill Collier felt free to have a “confidential chat” to “Kelly S”, who is also a member of Team Sarah.

I would like to stress that this chat was not “hacked”. The chat was openly visible for everyone who went to this site, you also don't need to be logged in.

The content of the chat was highly revealing and puts Bill Collier in an extremely questionable position. I have enclosed comprehensive screenshots of the chat, which was available online for several minutes, enough time to capture the last minutes of it “in full”, including the screenshots of the whole page.

This “intercepted” chat happened on Saturday, 3rd January at 7.40 pm – 7.49 pm Pennsylvania time (what came afterwards were just another three unimportant messages, then it stopped, apparently until today). On the enclosed screenshots it says 1.40 am – 1.49 am, because the chat was actually “intercepted” in Germany, and it shows that German time (night from Saturday 3rd January to Sunday 4th January in Germany).

In the “intercepted chat”, Bill Collier is chatting with his friend “Kelly S”. About him, Bill Collier wrote one day before, on 2nd January in his article “Liberal Conspiracy”:

“Thanks go out to Kelley S who serves TeamSarah brilliantly as a guardian, going out on patrol, looking for invaders who are attempting to frame and defame the community.

Thanks to Kelly, we now have screen shots, ID’s, and IP’s of a number of individuals who have planned an effort, and attempted to implement it, to act as agent provocateurs and discredit Team Sarah by planting racist and other unsavory material as if they were members.”

http://www.freedomist.org/profiles/...piracy-to-frame

++++++++

You can see the full chat between Bill Collier and Kelly S in the screenshots below. If I get a space problem, I will do additional postings.

I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT TWO THINGS:

Bill Collier mentions a “Ralph” from Team Sarah. This “Ralph” is actually RALPH BENKO, who is one of the friends of Bill Collier on Team Sarah, and who is also the CREATOR OF TEAM SARAH, see here:

http://72.30.186.56/search/cache?ei...&icp=1&.intl=uk

Funnily, Bill Collier calls Ralph Benko on this chat a “MANIAC”, but says immediately afterwards to Kelly S: “BUT DON'T TELL HIM” !!

(Bill, I am sure that Kelly S kept his secret, so there is no way that Ralph Benko will find out that you called him a maniac – you lucky man!)

Here is the profile of Ralph (Ralph Benko) on Team Sarah (login required):

http://www.teamsarah.org/profile/wy93nkailjr0

+++

SECOND POINT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT:

ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING PARTS OF THE CONVERSATION COMES WHEN BILL COLLIER SUDDENLY ASKS KELLY S: “how do you like the front page”

At this day, the 3rd January, the front page looked like this:

http://www.freedomist.org/profiles/...dom-fights-back

Freedom FIGHTS BACK!
Vicious Attack on Team Sarah STOPPED,

Pictured above is Sarah Palin's church, torched by an arsonist, evidently the same spirit of hate is the underlying "strategy" for "political engagement" from the left and today, January 3, 2009, WE WILL ANSWER EVERY ATTACK, blow for blow, exposing the lies and holding the perpetrators and those who benefit from such cyber-crimes to account in a way that will MAKE THEM REGRET attacking our virtual communities, blogs, and etc.

More "Operations" to Stop such plots against other virtual communities and blogs by the liberal menace are planned. volunteers sought for "The Freedom Elite Corps".
(…)

And the story on Bill Collier’s page from the 2nd January was:

http://www.freedomist.org/profiles/...piracy-to-frame

Liberal Conspiracy to Frame and Defame TeamSarah: Busted!
(in which Kelly S was mentioned)

The conversation in the chat went as follows:

Bill Collier: How do you like the front page article?
Kelly S: Liberal Conspiracy…nice
Bill Collier: (smiley)
Kelly S: or freedom fire
Bill Collier: ralph’s headline
Kelly S: Good headline

----------

This conversation raises a lot of questions. INTERESTINGLY, the VERY FIRST blog of Bill Collier on the Team Sarah website dealt with the fire at Sarah Palin’s church:
http://www.teamsarah.org/profiles/b...palins-hometown
(login required)

It seems obvious that Bill Collier exploits this fire for his own political gains, and he and Kelly S know that the claim of a “liberal conspiracy” is a joke. What makes this really interesting is that Kelly S describes the fire at Sarah’s church as “freedom fire” - which seems to be highly suspicious. The infamous “Reichstags Fire” springs into mind, when the Nazis ruthlessly exploited the fire of the Reichstag in Berlin in 1933.

It would not be surprising if Bill Collier uses Nazi tactics – he himself has blogged about the Nazi propaganda methods before and was very impressed by them:

http://www.helium.com/items/231476-...in-nazi-germany

Here are the screenshots:

By the way: All screenshots, including the full page screenshots, are available here:

http://s419.photobucket.com/albums/...MisterClean123/

Cleaning job done for today – the weekend is waiting!

Kind Regards

Mike the Cleaner
























never trust an elf
Aug 30, 2005


bill collier needs to use a typing rod

Clanpot Shake
Aug 10, 2006
shake shake!

drat. poo poo just got real.

The most offensive part in that whole thing to me was the ignorant redundancy of "and etc."

never trust an elf
Aug 30, 2005


itibani7 posted:

Do you beat your wife?

Santiago3.1
Jun 19, 2004

by mons all madden


fauxbama posted:

lf sold out

gently caress this poo poo

we must create

a new exclusive forum

for people with proper posting pedigrees

i will call these PPP from now on

what is your PPP score?

PM me to find out

McNerd
Aug 28, 2007


Mike the cleaner posted:

Hi folks,

I am Mike the cleaner. I am cleaning up things, because somebody has to do the dirty work.

This is a long post, sorry. It has pretty interesting screenshots, too.

I don't know. I tend to agree with your interpretation of the chat and everything else you posted. But is the inappropriateness clear-cut enough to spread doubt among hardcore supporters? If not, what's the goal here? Pissing off Ralph? I may be overestimating the level of denial on teamsarah, especially since I have no firsthand experience of it. But do you think "freedom fire" will come as a shock to the average member the way "BILL COLLIER OWNS A DILDO EMPORIUM" did?

It seems like it can easily be brushed off with "That's not what they meant," and the reader won't spend the time reading to decide what they DID mean. I don't think there's any other interpretation, but to reach that conclusion you have to expend effort reading the screenshots, suggesting alternative interpretations, and realizing they don't make sense. I don't think people will put forth that effort, when they already feel certain of the result.

(Also, why does the dildo emporium sentence still make me laugh, every time?)

McNerd fucked around with this message at Jan 9, 2009 around 20:34

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002


Thanks for posting this Mike, this rather feeds into Bill's whole shadow government thing, along with his apparent need to build some sort of society he can be the leader of. There's a real pattern of behavious emerging here that seems to indicate a real thirst for power.

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

by Fistgrrl


Dear everybody:

You don't need a real email to register. Resgiter however many accounts you want. But keep a log. We might need to organize a TS carpet bomb.

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006


Brown Moses posted:

Thanks for posting this Mike, this rather feeds into Bill's whole shadow government thing, along with his apparent need to build some sort of society he can be the leader of. There's a real pattern of behavious emerging here that seems to indicate a real thirst for power.

if you read through his poo poo, he's got some serious abandonment issues. when he fled to twitter, all he did was bitch about "conservatives abandoning each other".

Santiago3.1
Jun 19, 2004

by mons all madden


So Bill, you're a fan of Nazi propaganda techniques, want to start up street level political armies (ie: the SA of the Nazi party) and have links to Stormfront and the KKK.

This is wild.

Tell us Bill, how would the "Freedom Elite Corps" be used? What would their uniform be?

CraigK
Nov 4, 2008

SQUAWK


yeah

just use a random mailinator acct (preferably with one of the other suffixes, just to make sure)

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

by Fistgrrl


CraigK posted:

yeah

just use a random mailinator acct (preferably with one of the other suffixes, just to make sure)

no.
You can use any email and pretty sure any domain. There is no email verification whatsoever.

StateOwned
Dec 30, 2005

this lane closed

Crenshaw posted:

get out

Jailbrekr posted:

All evidence suggests that he is who he says he is.

I was talking about the chatlogs with "bill collier" saying things like mexicans arent allowed into upadaria or whatever which is obviously not him

this thread is pretty funny but people should stop posting chatlogs of trolls trolling each other

w1ntermute
Jan 6, 2005
A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous, got me?

poo poo just got real

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002


^^^^^^^^^
Looks like you have to be logged in to chat, try using the URL http://www.teamsarah.org/chat to see if he's just removed the link from the unregistered user page.

StateOwned posted:

I was talking about the chatlogs with "bill collier" saying things like mexicans arent allowed into upadaria or whatever which is obviously not him

this thread is pretty funny but people should stop posting chatlogs of trolls trolling each other

I gotta agree with this, there's enough crazy on Team Sarah to find interesting stuff, you just have to look for it.

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

by Fistgrrl


w1ntermute posted:

poo poo just got real



You gotta log in to see it.

Really Pants
May 20, 2005

What's...where's...how do I even begin to describe your pants/underwear situation?!
You couldn't make your pants any lower, so you made pants for each leg! SAY IT!

Oglethorpe posted:

no.
You can use any email and pretty sure any domain. There is no email verification whatsoever.

in a tribute to palin's rise to prominence, they forego all vetting practices

w1ntermute
Jan 6, 2005
A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous, got me?

Oglethorpe posted:

You gotta log in to see it.

Just noticing changes as of today. They're eventually going to make the chatbox for unregged users disappear I'm betting.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you



Really Pants posted:

in a tribute to palin's rise to prominence, they forego all vetting practices

BAM

POTUShead
Sep 23, 2006



its taking less than an hour now to be verified so we're back to instant gratification

Majestic
Mar 19, 2004
WHY YES I ENJOY THE TASTE OF COCK IN THE MORNING THANK YOU FOR ASKING

Jailbrekr posted:

All evidence suggests that he is who he says he is.

He's talking about in the chatlogs not in the posts, and yes if you thought it was him you are pretty dumb.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002


Really Pants posted:

in a tribute to palin's rise to prominence, they forego all vetting practices

2nd best post on this page.

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok


He wants us to stir up more drama because he is going to use this to try and make money off of his users. He is exploiting dozens of people in order to make some extra money, I don't really care because they are all right wing idiots, but his actions are yet another example of how his side destroys itself in the long run. These people deserve Palin.

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

by Fistgrrl


Tars Tarkas posted:

He wants us to stir up more drama because he is going to use this to try and make money off of his users. He is exploiting dozens of people in order to make some extra money, I don't really care because they are all right wing idiots, but his actions are yet another example of how his side destroys itself in the long run. These people deserve Palin.

It is your duty to spread the blogs around

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok


Duh! The only way some of them are going to learn is when they are destroyed by their own side.

ChlamydiaJones
Sep 27, 2002

My Estonian riding instructor told me; "Mine munni ahvi türa imeja", and I live by that every day!

quote:

There are several activities going on that day. First there is a pre-March breakfast organized by me (details below and also an "event")

Time: January 22, 2009 from 9am to 10:30am
Location: Ronald Reagan Building
Street: 1300 Pennsylvania Avenue
City/Town: Washington, DC
Website or Map: http://www.itcdc.com
Event Type: Social
Organized By: Marta - TS Virginia member

Then there is the actual meet-up with TS staff (that is described within this event) If you come to the breakfast I will guide everyone in the short walk from the Ronald Reagan Building to the Smithsonian Castle.

There is a third event, the Post-March reception in Capitol Hill, which is the third event advertised. I will ensure everyone in our group knows where to go and how to get there if you come along. Please feel free to contact me directly if you have additional questions.

Goonmeet?

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

by Fistgrrl


ChlamydiaJones posted:

Goonmeet?

yessssssss

ChlamydiaJones
Sep 27, 2002

My Estonian riding instructor told me; "Mine munni ahvi türa imeja", and I live by that every day!

Oglethorpe posted:

yessssssss

Worst news for me is that I fly out on the 21st. Why couldn't they have had the drat event BEFORE the inauguration - I've got all day on the 19th free!

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

by Fistgrrl


ChlamydiaJones posted:

Worst news for me is that I fly out on the 21st. Why couldn't they have had the drat event BEFORE the inauguration - I've got all day on the 19th free!

I can't go anyway I just want video

Santiago3.1
Jun 19, 2004

by mons all madden


ChlamydiaJones posted:

Goonmeet?

Dammit, and I just moved away from the DC area.

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007



just for old times sake, someone post those palin pictures and gifs (My pussy's so hot, the debate one about the things that come out of her vagina, naylin palyn etc.)

they're mementos

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

by Fistgrrl


http://current.com/items/89699004/h...ajama_mafia.htm

never trust an elf
Aug 30, 2005


the chatroom has devolved into bashing solar power, and reminiscing about how great it will be when palin is president.

edit: "bill really showed those trolls"

tenderjerk
Nov 6, 2008

This kid walked up to me and was like man luddy your shit is ghetto and I was like whatever man your shirt look like a dishrag. He was like damn.

IHatePugs posted:

the chatroom has devolved into bashing solar power, and reminiscing about how great it will be when palin is president.
i helped steer it into that

i cant believe how easy it is to manipulate the narrative of that place

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Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

by Fistgrrl


Whoever spammed the link, edit it to only one post.

Minimalism is effective



edit: https://www.rapiddonation.com/init/controller/ProcessEntryCmd?key=M2J4R8F2U6

Oglethorpe fucked around with this message at Jan 9, 2009 around 22:08

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