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Oligopsony
May 17, 2007

there are so many dawns
that have not yet glowed


The Grand Old Party is over for New York's young Republicans, who spent last night crying in their vintage cognac as they mourned the end of the Bush era and quaked in fear over the prospect of an Obama presidency.

"I have no idea what's to come," said Amy Noakes, 26, as she and about 100 other conservatives commiserated at Ice Bar in Murray Hill. "It's going to be more like socialism than capitalism."

Noakes and her fellow GOPers talked of a political apocalypse at the penultimate New York Young Republican's Club meeting to be held before Barack Obama's inauguration on Jan. 20.

"I'm trying to savor the last days of capitalism," said Cathy Reno, 23, as she bitterly sipped a three-olive martini. "I fear Obama's inexperience, and that we have no idea what his worldview is."

"I'm hiding all my guns where Barry can't find them," added Villamor Asuncion, 26, referring to Obama's old nickname in high school.

Grad student Michael Pocelinko, 22, agreed.

"I'm buying as many guns as possible, and I'm enjoying the last days of national security while I can."

Others worried about the fate of their money in the hands of a man they see as the lowest of the low - a tax-and-spend liberal.

"I'm divesting all equity before the capital-gains tax goes up," said Jeff Miller, 25.

Miller anticipated a return to Franklin D. Roosevelt's big-government polices of the last Depression.

"I fear a repeat of the bad tax effects of the New Deal and a gross overreaction to the current economic issues," he said. "I fear overinflating wages and prices. It would lead to a huge unemployment boom."

Some tried to keep a stiff upper lip, claiming that they really didn't care that their candidate lost and that eight years of Republican rule was coming to an end.

"I could give two s- - - s about the inauguration. I could care less," said Allie Nigolian, 25. "I don't get Obama; I don't buy it. People are gonna realize that he's full of s- - -."

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griffiti
Oct 6, 2008

a being of pure posts


in a perfect world...

nerdz
Oct 12, 2004


Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.


that sure is a 'i have no idea of what's to come' face if ive ever seen one

Ajaarg
Jul 25, 2000
Probation
Can't post for 2677 days!


Bootstamps posted:

"I'm trying to savor the last days of capitalism," said Cathy Reno, 23, as she bitterly sipped a three-olive martini.

griffiti
Oct 6, 2008

a being of pure posts


Ajaarg posted:



tbh if i had pinned my hopes and dreams on "fashion distribution" id be rooting for capitalism too

Uncontrol
Jan 14, 2008

it's just whipped cream


how can people be THIS DUMB

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005

He tries to tell people that he is alone, all by himself; he wants to love and be loved. His music is a call for acceptance, respect, love, underst

that's weird as hell i can't even understand this poo poo

Jeffman
Oct 21, 2008


Michael Ponelinko knows that the British are coming back for their land the minute Obama is President.

Ajaarg
Jul 25, 2000
Probation
Can't post for 2677 days!


Easy, their parents are rich. I doubt your average 25 year old has any equity to divest.

griffiti
Oct 6, 2008

a being of pure posts


quote:

"I'm trying to savor the last days of capitalism," said Cathy Reno, 23, as she bitterly sipped a three-olive martini. "I fear Obama's inexperience, and that we have no idea what his worldview is."

how is it even possible to still hold this viewpoint

i mean, i can kind of understand worrying about specific things like the capital gains tax, incredibly stupid as that may be i can chalk that up to run of the mill ignorance/being fed misinformation about a topic you don't really understand

but this is a man that has just had cameras pointed at him for over a year and has been shouting his platform into them for most of that time

before that he was a loving senator

Oligopsony
May 17, 2007

there are so many dawns
that have not yet glowed


griffiti posted:

how is it even possible to still hold this viewpoint

i mean, i can kind of understand worrying about specific things like the capital gains tax, incredibly stupid as that may be i can chalk that up to run of the mill ignorance/being fed misinformation about a topic you don't really understand

but this is a man that has just had cameras pointed at him for over a year and has been shouting his platform into them for most of that time

before that he was a loving senator

she doesn't have time for that she had to learn to distribute fashion

Cellophane S
Nov 14, 2004

Now you're playing with power.

Bootstamps posted:



Bang, bang, bang, three headshots

The Evan
Nov 29, 2004

Apple ][ Cash Money


is "fashion distribution" a euphemism for "american eagle employee"?

Cellophane S
Nov 14, 2004

Now you're playing with power.

college republicans make internment camps justified

bassguitarhero
Feb 29, 2008

Peace


griffiti posted:

how is it even possible to still hold this viewpoint

i mean, i can kind of understand worrying about specific things like the capital gains tax, incredibly stupid as that may be i can chalk that up to run of the mill ignorance/being fed misinformation about a topic you don't really understand

but this is a man that has just had cameras pointed at him for over a year and has been shouting his platform into them for most of that time

before that he was a loving senator

she didn't want to learn then blames Obama for her not being informed

Abundance of Gokus
Jan 8, 2009

Sailor Scout Encounter 5: Mercury Aqua Rhapsody


that guy in the middle is photoshopped-in douchebag clipart

uncleTomOfFinland
May 25, 2008



well at least hell be paying through the nose since all the other dumb hicks are gobbling up guns as well

or more likely its just stupid right-wing hyperbole

Patashu
Jan 7, 2009


they should buy capitalism a gun to defend itself

Cellophane S
Nov 14, 2004

Now you're playing with power.

the most worthless human beings imaginable in that picture

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005



Martinis pretty much rule and as long as this depression doesn't have prohibition again I'm gonna drink them double time.

Git
Aug 21, 2004



I was watching fox for some reason the other day and glenn beck was on explaining how the founding fathers were all capitalists and founded the country on capitalism and that socialism contravened everything they stood for

bassguitarhero
Feb 29, 2008

Peace


i hear they were also big on christianity which was why they put "in god we trust" on the money and "one nation under god" in the pledge of allegiance

Abundance of Gokus
Jan 8, 2009

Sailor Scout Encounter 5: Mercury Aqua Rhapsody


Git posted:

I was watching fox for some reason the other day and glenn beck was on explaining how the founding fathers were all capitalists and founded the country on capitalism and that socialism contravened everything they stood for

If you take capitalism to be synonymous with business interests the way most Americans do then the statement makes sense. Of course, that's not to say that a government founded by and for business interests is good or desirable, least of all simply because it's what the founders intended, as if the founders were civil saints whose words needed heeding ages past the limits of their imagination, much less their experience

nnbosko
Apr 15, 2007



i think i.. i'll stop reading LF for a few weeks. it's getting to me. hate is corroding my brain.

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005

He tries to tell people that he is alone, all by himself; he wants to love and be loved. His music is a call for acceptance, respect, love, underst

it's really quite an interesting article coming from the ny post

Beastruction
Feb 15, 2005


Cellophane S posted:

college republicans make internment camps justified

Construction and running of the camps creates jobs.

griffiti
Oct 6, 2008

a being of pure posts


Git posted:

I was watching fox for some reason the other day and glenn beck was on explaining how the founding fathers were all capitalists and founded the country on capitalism and that socialism contravened everything they stood for

so did universal suffrage

TJO
Aug 14, 2006

I had a funny feeling in my gut.


Bootstamps posted:

I'm enjoying the last days of national security while I can."

what does this even mean? 'im sitting and not currently being blown up, i have a smile on my face, i am enjoying doing this. it is nice'

GROVER CURES HOUSE
Aug 26, 2007

Go on...


Uncontrol posted:

how can people be THIS DUMB

Sputty
Mar 20, 2005



Dusseldorf posted:

Martinis pretty much rule and as long as this depression doesn't have prohibition again I'm gonna drink them double time.

ppl drank more during prohibition

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005



Sputty posted:

ppl drank more during prohibition

Yeah, but it would cost more.

itstime4lunch
Nov 3, 2005


clockin' around
the clock


the problem here is just rampant ignorance with the underlying problem being the cultural conflict currently being waged against reason and objective knowledge that is propagated by the people who would stand to lose the most if everyone started thinking and actually knew what was going on, but yea screw those dumb kids am i rite? if we were in their positions, we totally wouldn't be like them because we're just better people than they are based on magical non-hereditary, non-environmental factors

Sputty
Mar 20, 2005



itstime4lunch posted:

the problem here is just rampant ignorance with the underlying problem being the cultural conflict currently being waged against reason and objective knowledge that is propagated by the people who would stand to lose the most if everyone started thinking and actually knew what was going on, but yea screw those dumb kids am i rite? if we were in their positions, we totally wouldn't be like them because we're just better people than they are based on magical non-hereditary, non-environmental factors

theyre rich and educated

Matlock
Sep 12, 2004

Childs Play Charity 2011 Total: $1755


Holy poo poo, it's not an Onion article

Insidious
Dec 17, 2004


GODDAMNIT APHEX WHY DO YOU SUCK AT EVERYTHING YOU DO


i was looking for the onion link at the end too

itstime4lunch
Nov 3, 2005


clockin' around
the clock


Sputty posted:

theyre rich and educated

if you don't blame poor people for being born into poor families and poor economic conditions, how can you blame these kids for being born into a retarded culture and families with lovely ideologies?

sorry im just feeling antagonistic

edit: just because they can read, write, and do a little math doesn't mean they're educated on matters of importance. whoever was supposed to teach these kids how to think has failed miserably. read the quotes.

itstime4lunch fucked around with this message at Jan 10, 2009 around 14:34

A. Kollontai
Jun 29, 2004

I never wanted to kill, I'm not naturally evil...

itstime4lunch posted:

if you don't blame poor people for being born into poor families and poor economic conditions, how can you blame these kids for being born into a retarded culture and families with lovely ideologies?

sorry im just feeling antagonistic

because they've had every opportunity to open their eyes to the reality of the suffering around them and probably the best educations money can buy; instead they choose to retain and propagate the beliefs and values that will ensure their famlies' wealth and privilege and power is maintained and protected. they don't give a poo poo about anything other them themselves, especially not the poor folks they mislead into thinking they have needs and desires in common.

A. Kollontai
Jun 29, 2004

I never wanted to kill, I'm not naturally evil...

itstime4lunch posted:

edit: just because they can read, write, and do a little math doesn't mean they're educated on matters of importance. whoever was supposed to teach these kids how to think has failed miserably. read the quotes.

The purpose of school is not to beat it into your head that poverty, hunger, and war are crimes of the rich against the poor; it's to give you the tools with which you can question and learn about the world around you.

Most Americans choose to ignore the reality of the lives of others and focus only on themselves and their tiny immediate family because it's easy to pretend that that's where our responsibility to other human beings ends. (ie. capital gains > a village of brown people.) I'd like to think there's a little voice inside each of them that makes them feel ashamed.

GROVER CURES HOUSE
Aug 26, 2007

Go on...


Salanole posted:

because they've had every opportunity to open their eyes to the reality of the suffering around them and probably the best educations money can buy; instead they choose to retain and propagate the beliefs and values that will ensure their famlies' wealth and privilege and power is maintained and protected. they don't give a poo poo about anything other them themselves, especially not the poor folks they mislead into thinking they have needs and desires in common.

or alternatively they have been sufficiently indoctrinated and are unable to form an opinion that does not coincide with that of a cartoon villain. therefore richard cheney,

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Kaedric
Sep 5, 2000

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Hey guys I've got these investments that are earning me a cool 15-20% annually, but I hear Obama is going to raise the capital gains tax so I'm going to liquidate.

Also I'm not going to accept that promotion at work because it puts me in a higher tax bracket, so I'd actually be LOSING money!! God drat liberals.

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